[governance] Fwd: IGC Membership list

Fri Jun 27 00:44:32 EDT 2008

Suresh and all,

  I have no idea if they are or are not.  I rather doubt that
Jim is.  I have some doubt that Dr. Baptista would be interested,
but I cannot, and do not speak for him.  Perhaps you can ask Jim 
or Dr. Baptista for yourself.

  If you like, I'll be sure to keep them updated?  I am sure they
would be pleased that you inquired.  >:)

  You shudder?  Are you ill, or suffering from some neurological
disorder?

-----Original Message-----
>From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
>Sent: Jun 26, 2008 8:10 PM
>To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
>Cc: Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com>, William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
>Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: IGC Membership list
>
>Invited? So is Joe Baptista (or maybe Jim Fleming) on the list as well?
>
>Shudder.
>
>Jeffrey A. Williams [26/06/08 19:27 -0700]:
>>Suresh and all,
>>
>>  I was ask to join.  So I did.  
>>
>>  And please the name calling only shows lack of reason
>>and ethical behavior.  You don't know me at all, and I
>>also don't know you.  So I will not call you any names
>>like a adolesent child and would ask kindly you also
>>do likewise.
>>
>>  I am a IT/Data security professional with a law degree.
>>Admittedly that is an odd combination, so what?
>>
>>  Sure I have been moderated, kicked off, ask to return, and 
>>otherwise personally abused on a few forums for stating my and/or our
>>members views.  If that is a justification for such actions, than 
>>I take those abuses/actions with reluctant pride.  If that bothers 
>>you or anyone, truly I am sorry for their/uour short sightedness and 
>>lack of ethical conviction.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
>>>Sent: Jun 26, 2008 6:44 PM
>>>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
>>>Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com>, William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
>>>Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: IGC Membership list
>>>
>>>Me, that statement was because I know your former history getting on other
>>>forums and then getting kicked off for being a net kook
>>>
>>>Why, by the way, did you pick this forum to infest?
>>>
>>>Jeffrey A. Williams [26/06/08 18:22 -0700]:
>>>>Suresh and all,
>>>>
>>>>  Sorry that you take such an attitude.  Not very individual user
>>>>friendly.  >:(  And the governance organization purports itself
>>>>to be open and transparent to independant users?  How so?
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
>>>>>Sent: Jun 26, 2008 6:08 PM
>>>>>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
>>>>>Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com>, William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: IGC Membership list
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes. Thank God.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeffrey A. Williams [25/06/08 18:26 -0700]:
>>>>>>Suresh and all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Well I have only been on this forum for about three weeks.  So
>>>>>>does that make me not eledgable?
>>>>>>
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>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
>>>>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>>>>   Abraham Lincoln
>>>>
>>>>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
>>>>very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>>>>
>>>>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
>>>>liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>>>>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>>>>United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>>>>===============================================================
>>>>Updated 1/26/04
>>>>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
>>>>div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
>>>>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
>>>>jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
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>>Regards,
>>
>>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
>>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>>   Abraham Lincoln
>>
>>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
>>very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
>>liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>>United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>>===============================================================
>>Updated 1/26/04
>>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
>>div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
>>ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
>>jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
>>My Phone: 214-244-4827
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
My Phone: 214-244-4827
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