[governance] summary of the advisory group's discussion about its future

[Parminder]

>Parminder:
 > "excerpts" means in this case the posts were extracted from the 
>larger discussion on the list, not that portions were taken from 
>individual posts (unless to anonymize etc.)  Not a summary either as 
>I mistakenly characterized.  Nothing has been sanitized.  Sorry for 
>any confusion

Thanks for the explanation, Adam. 

>Jeremy:
>A member of the advisory group suggested the discussion be made 
>public.  See writer B on page 6.

>Adam

A good thing is a good thing whatever its causal factors. Though it is
difficult to believe that this move, and the previous one in September last
year to publish a summary of closed door proceedings of MAG, has nothing to
do with UN SG's direction to improve the flow of information to
stakeholders....

Adam, your simplistic explanation above raises 2 points

On the negative side - does it mean future email and face-to-face
discussions will not have open full transcripts (if anonymized).

On the positive side - if one of the MAG members asks for it (which we urge
CS members of MAG to do regularly) will they be made open?

Jeremy's observation is with respect to the fact that we have regularly
asked for providing records of MAGs closed door deliberations, and in
September consultations these points were added to outcome doc on the basis
of CS inputs, though we are under no illusions about the power of these
interventions vis a vis UN SG's diktat.

This is also not to minimize MAG's own initiative to open up its
deliberations which speaks of their increased confidence in being able to
relate to and be accountable to different stakeholders. We do hope that such
reforms keep taking place, and as Jeremy says CS and IGC has an important
role here..... I mean here to stress the significance of Jeremy's
observation and imploring.... 

Parminder 





-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:48 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: Re: [governance] summary of the advisory group's discussion about
its future

Parminder:
  "excerpts" means in this case the posts were extracted from the 
larger discussion on the list, not that portions were taken from 
individual posts (unless to anonymize etc.)  Not a summary either as 
I mistakenly characterized.  Nothing has been sanitized.  Sorry for 
any confusion.

Jeremy:
A member of the advisory group suggested the discussion be made 
public.  See writer B on page 6.

Adam



At 10:30 PM +0900 1/23/08, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 04:24:52PM +0530, Parminder wrote:
>>
>>  I must congratulate the MAG for taking this decision to publish its
>>  discussions. I hope this practice continues for all deliberations,
including
>>  face-to-face meetings.
>>
>  > Adam, you say these are excerpts (which I read to mean it is not the
full
>>  text of discussions) but the document says " The only changes made
relate to
>>  an effort to anonymize the comments in respect of the Chatham House
rule".
>>  This is really a good practice to carry on.
>
>Agreed; I wonder if any of our comments and criticisms prompted this?  I
>suspect they can't have hurt.  All the more reason then for us to
>contribute positively to the discussions on Advisory Group rotation and
>Taking Stock of Rio ahead of February's open consultation.
>
>--
>Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com
>Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor
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