[governance] Re: [IGP-ANNOUNCE] IGP Alert: Reforming ICANN

[Carlos Afonso]

Wait a minute, McT, which part? I have never heard of ICANN overriding 
an IETF recommendation, to the contrary, and there is a non-empty 
intersection between the two in their mandates.

I do not smoke, but please pass on my cigar to Milton. :)

--c.a.

McTim wrote:
> Apologies for the lack of completeness in my previous mail, it was a
> draft which was sent by fat-fingeredness.
> 
> On Feb 7, 2008 11:30 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> Jeremy Malcolm [07/02/08 17:25 +0900]:
>>> What is your point?  That because the IGF "doesn't exist" it can't exercise
>>> soft governance over ICANN?  And you seek to differentiate the IETF as a
>>> counter-example on the basis that its governance of Internet standards is
>>> also soft?  I really don't see the distinction.
>> Soft governance - possibly. Oversight - no. There aint no soft oversight,
>> trust me.
> 
> ACK.
> 
> In addition, the IETF (or any 3rd party for that matter) has NEVER
> tried to have ICANN or any other net body "overseen" by the IETF.  So
> nice try Milton, but no cigar.
> 
> It's not just me and Suresh, Avri weighed in with her objections as
> well. As far as the "usual suspects" crack goes, I think we (and
> others on this list) are centrists in the Internet community, and I
> submit it is not the "usual suspects" who are the fringe element in
> this discussion.
> 
> If anyone could point to a mail where we reached consensus on the fact
> that we as IGC want multilateral governmental oversight to replace the
> unilateral one currently in place, I'd appreciate it. Judging from my
> off list mail, there are plenty of people taking us seriously!
> 

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