[governance] Re: Reminder - 2008 IGC Co-Coordinator Election Ballot

Thu Dec 18 12:07:34 EST 2008

Hello Fouad Bajwa,

I would rather suggest that Ian Peter encourages the caucus to undertake a
task a little larger than mere de-duplication of the mailing list. The
Caucus members could be encouraged to fill in a short form (with optional
form fields) so as to collect essential profile information of all the
members of the Caucus - Name, street address, phone numbers (optional),
organizational affiliation, country of residence, email addresses, website
and blog urls. Optional information could be list of publications, detailed
educational background, photograph etc.

The information so filled in could be integrated into a small data base for
Ian Peter and other officers of the IGC to make use of for adminstrative
tasks. At the same time, the IGC website could take in the profile
information and feature such information as profile information of the
members of the caucus.

Such an exercise could facilitate the task of de-duplicating easier and at
the same time more fool proof. More importantly it could help the
coordinators anlayse the compostion of the IGC in various ways - for
instance for gender balance, geographic balance, presence of a non-CS member
passing on another stakholder's views as a Civil Society view, type of Civil
Societies represented in the Caucus, distribution of members on  the basis
of their interest in specific issues etc.

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
India.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> totally agree with you Karl, I think some systems should be in place
> now and provided that drupal also offers variable and useful modules
> to support such processes, we should make use of them. Also, we need
> to incorporate CiviCRM into the IGC website so that we can run some
> campaigns and so forth...........
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Karl E. Peters <kpeters at tldainc.org>
> wrote:
> > Or, you might consider a free software such as (but not necessarily)
> > www.rsvme.com  which send out ballots for you to your mailing list and
> > tracks them all by the IP address. It is not foolproof either, but would
> > protect, not only against accidental double mailings but also against
> people
> > who sign up under more than one name specifically to skew voting. (We
> always
> > hope our memberships are above that, but in a virtual world such as this,
> > you can not have too many free and easy checks for security and honesty.
> I
> > even had someone try to vote twice in the TLDA to test it and was able to
> > detect it and remove the vote.
> > -Karl E. Peters (TLDA)
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Reminder - 2008 IGC Co-Coordinator
> > Election Ballot
> > From: "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, December 18, 2008 8:55 am
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Derrick L. Cogburn" <dcogburn at syr.edu>
> >
> > I could volunteer to take the next week to go through the members
> > list, send one to one emails confirming which emails users are using
> > to recieve messages as well as remove the bouncing and suspended
> > accounts so that we have a clean mailing list available.
> >
> > On 12/18/08, Derrick L. Cogburn <dcogburn at syr.edu> wrote:
> >> Thanks Michael,
> >>
> >> You are raising an important issue, to which I have responded
> >> privately in messages to a few other people. We are well aware that
> >> some people are subscribed twice, and in some cases more, on the list.
> >> As you suggest, a more complete process would be to cull the voting
> >> list of these extra names. However, we didn't feel comfortable making
> >> the decision about which address to choose for people, and didn't have
> >> the time to go through the list, identify the duplicates, mail then to
> >> ask to preferences, then wait for responses. As such, we are relying
> >> on the ethics and integrity of our membership not to vote twice (and
> >> of course, the technology will indicate if someone voted with more
> >> than one address; though not how they voted).
> >>
> >> So summary, indeed there could be a more perfect system. Perfect
> >> opportunity for someone (not me - smile) next time.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Derrick
> >>
> >> Dr. Derrick L. Cogburn
> >> Syracuse University
> >> http://cotelco.syr.edu
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Dec 18, 2008, at 3:48 AM, "Michael Gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Derrick and all,
> >> >
> >> > Since I am subscribed to the list (for historical reasons) with two
> >> > email
> >> > addresses it appears that I have the opportunity to vote twice,
> >> > which I
> >> > haven't done. However, the option is there and probably represents a
> >> > significant procedural anomaly.
> >> >
> >> > My suggestion is that given that the numbers aren't huge, that someone
> >> > (Derrick?) do a quick visual scan of the elist and see if there are
> >> > any
> >> > evident anomalies such as mine which might be followed up with an
> >> > email
> >> > query.
> >> >
> >> > MG
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Dr. Derrick L. Cogburn [mailto:dcogburn at syr.edu]
> >> > Sent: December-18-08 1:06 AM
> >> > To: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca
> >> > Subject: Reminder - 2008 IGC Co-Coordinator Election Ballot
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear IGC List Participant,
> >> >
> >> > This email invites you to consider voting in the elections for the new
> >> > co-coordinator for the Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC).
> >> >
> >> > In order to vote, as per the conditions of the IGC's charter, you must
> >> > specify that you subscribe to the IGC charter and thus accept/
> >> > affirm IGC
> >> > membership (see http://www.igcaucus.org/charter). This can be done
> >> > on the
> >> > webpage that opens when you click the following link:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://websurvey.syr.edu//Survey.aspx?i=b95f780a4f884a92aa1e5dec765385bb
> >> >
> >> > A positive response to the question will take you to the ballot
> >> > where you
> >> > can tick/check the candidate for whom you choose to vote. There is
> >> > a link
> >> > to background information supplied by the candidates on the ballot
> >> > paper.
> >> >
> >> > After you have voted, you will then be taken to a page that confirms
> >> > your
> >> > vote has been registered. While at this page you may still go back and
> >> > change your vote. However, after you click on "Finish" on the final
> >> > page,
> >> > your vote will be final and cannot be changed.
> >> >
> >> > You may cast your vote anytime upon receipt of this message, until
> >> > 24h00 GMT
> >> > on Sunday, 21 December 2008.
> >> >
> >> > We strongly encourage you to cast your vote as a sign of active
> >> > engagement
> >> > with the caucus. Although, voting is not compulsory for retaining
> >> > membership
> >> > if you are already on the IGC members list (please see this list at
> >> > http://www.igcaucus.org/node/12/%253Cbr%2520/%253E), as per the
> >> > charter you
> >> > must vote in this election to be eligible to vote in any charter
> >> > amendment
> >> > process that may come up before the next election. You may choose
> >> > to vote
> >> > "None of the Above" on the ballot paper to maintain voting
> >> > eligibility if
> >> > you do not favour any of the candidates.
> >> >
> >> > You may seek any clarification by replying to this email.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Ian Peter
> >> > Co-coordinator IGC
> >> >
> >> > and
> >> >
> >> > Dr. Derrick L. Cogburn
> >> > Associate Professor
> >> > Director, Cotelco
> >> > Syracuse University
> >> >
> >> > PS: Please do not vote with more than one email ID. If you receive
> >> > this
> >> > message more than once, please use only one of them and inform us
> >> > about the
> >> > multiple IDs by replying to this email.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > !DSPAM:2676,494985da133779006219400!
> >> >
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> > Regards.
> > --------------------------
> > Fouad Bajwa
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Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
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