[governance] Themes for the coming IGFs

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Fri Dec 12 08:03:41 EST 2008


Hi,

I think the best you can do is to use more specific parlance like 'NN  
in the sense of content control'

a.

On 12 Dec 2008, at 04:19, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Ian:
> I agree that the term Net Neutrality has become unfortunately confused
> with the issue of bandwidth management. The IGP paper on NN issued  
> last
> year tried to separate the content access issues from the traffic
> shaping issues, with some success. I don't see any way to avoid the  
> term
> NN, however. I think we need to reclaim the term and set it right.
> Anyway, I appreciate your perspective on this and think its worth
> discussing. --MM
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:33 PM
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Ralf Bendrath'
>> Subject: RE: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
>>
>> Hi Ralf,
>>
>> To be very blunt about this - my personal opinion is that network
>> neutrality
>> is an unfortunate term which has distorted what was originally
> concerns
>> about equitable access to content into endless debates about traffic
>> shaping
>> and carrier profitability. I'm all for dropping the term.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian Peter
>> PO Box 429
>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>> Australia
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>> www.ianpeter.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ralf Bendrath [mailto:bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
>>> Sent: 12 December 2008 12:09
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Themes for the coming IGFs
>>>
>>> Ian Peter schrieb:
>>>> I like the concept of broadening access to include, for instance
>>>>
>>>> * equitable access to carriage for content providers (often
> discussed
>>>> within the net neutrality debate)
>>>> * access to content without interference (the censorship debate)
>>>> * access to devices for applications (the open systems debate, the
> end
>>>> to end debate)
>>>
>>>> Add these to physical access and you have an interesting set of
> issues
>>>> to look at.
>>>
>>> You want to discuss Network Neutrality, without saying it? ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm all for it, but the strategic implications of opening this can
> of
>>> worms in Egypt at a UN conference need thorough discussion, I am
> afraid.
>>>
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