SV: [governance] Re: [ga] Re: [ga] ICANN presents

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Sun Dec 7 19:15:53 EST 2008


Karl and all,

  Good answer Karl.  Unfortunately, as you all too well know, ICANN
has decidedly for year now been against other root structures and has
done whatever it could, even to the point of hijacking existing TLD's
already up an running on other root structures ( .BIZ as well known
and well documented example) and additionally demonstrated as
well as articulated that as a public service company, is unwilling to
share or inter operate with any other root structures.  As such, it is
or has become clear, and in my as well as your opinion that some
governmental pressure or perhaps complement is needed to impress
upon ICANN the error in it's various ways....

"Karl E. Peters" wrote:

>  (I took the liberty of joining your list discussion as I feel you are
> taking on very important issues and I would like to be available to
> you to address some of these issues from the TLDA perspective. -Karl
> E. Peters) Dear Mr. Kleinwachter,    Thank you first of all, for your
> response and question. In my opinion, though others may vary, the
> greatest good to come from the changes I outlined below (still
> attached) is a relaxation in the minds of many ISPs and individual end
> users that they must carry the "official" line, the ICANN root or
> perhaps some other government's root. This opens up the possibility of
> many more and varied TLDs from which to choose, or even initiate, for
> their particular interests or needs. With such an opening, investors
> that have been standing on the sideline with regard to other roots and
> TLDs will be secure in adding infrastructure to the "up and coming"
> root systems that offer the most "Inclusive NameSpace" to handle more
> and more traffic. The greater traffic will enable and encourage
> further investment in a diverse and free internet community. It
> becomes a self-perpetuating growth environment where everyone will
> gain. Already, there is a very strong registrar system tested and
> ready to go online for handling the move into the new frontier. (Other
> registrars wishing to join the move are welcomed, and with far fewer
> strings than now exist under ICANN.)    There has not generally been
> any technical lacking on the part of the non-governmental roots, just
> a lack of traffic and thereby, long-term investment needed to keep
> them growing with the internet itself. When there is no longer the
> perception that there is one superior root and many pretenders (many
> users don't even know there is more than one!!!), but rather many
> roots from which to choose, either on the ISP level or the end-user
> level, known and interested investors will provide the funds to spread
> the word and educate the public to their choices. As you must know,
> but few end users know, you can change your DNS choices on the
> personal computer level and not be dependant on your ISP's foresight.
> Much like a battle between an original cable TV carrier in an area and
> an upstart that carries more channels for the same price, the people
> may not immediately see a need for the additional channels, but when
> they cost no more, why not give them a try. Generally speaking, once
> people get used to having more, they will always demand it.
> Incidentally, the TLDA, Inc. has no plan to operate a new root, but
> rather to foster a more conducive atmosphere for the operation of the
> TLD operators that make up our body and for whom we advocate. We would
> perform more as an internet "Chamber of Commerce" than as a competing
> business. As part of our advocacy, though, we would require high
> operational and ethical standards for those wishing to be listed in
> our recommended list and then aggressively promote the entire industry
> around the world.    Thank you again for the opportunity to address
> your question. Please feel free to contact me anytime with further
> thoughts or concerns at kpeters at tldainc.orgor my telephone (912)
> 638-1638. Ich Spreche ein bichen Deutsch, aber nicht gut. (I studied
> one year when I was 15!) Mandarin Chinese is my best second language.
> I used to write the English language news for Shanghai TV
> station. Karl E. Peters, PresidentTop Level Domain Association,
> Inc. ------ Original Message --------
> Subject: SV: [governance] Re: [ga] Re: [ga] ICANN presents misleading
> blackline c omparison document regarding pricing?]
> From: Kleinwächter,_Wolfgang
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
> Date: Mon, December 08, 2008 5:55 am
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Jeffrey A. Williams"
> <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>, "Karl E. Peters" <tlda at bridgecompanies.com>,
>
> Governance/IGC <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
> Cc: ga at gnso.icann.org
>
> Dear Karl
>
> could you give us also your analyze of the individual endusers
> perspective, in particular for the type of one billion+ endusers who
> want to have a simple system which offers low prices and maximum reach
> and are not interested into the tehcnical specification and the
> management "behind the wall"?
>
> With another root you propose what would be the extra value for the
> individual enduser and where is the guarantee that the next 4 billion
> users can communicate with the same easiness than the existing 1..5
> billion are doing?
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> "Karl E. Peters" wrote:
>
> > Yes! When ICANN achieves its independence from the US Government
> > under which it has operated all these years, it also becomes just
> > another root systemthat gets its support only from those who like
> > them, a fast dwindling group! To be sure, most every root system
> > carries, and will continue to carry, traditionally "ICANN" TLDs, but
>
> > there will be no compelling reason to use ICANN's servers with their
>
> > often-maligned technical abilities to operate within those TLDs.
> > Instead, there will be more perceived freedom to choose from other
> > root systems that provide a much wider and "Inclusive Name Space".
> > The TLDA (Top-Level Domain Association, Inc.) has assembled many
> > experts in these matters and will soon publish a thoroughly
> researched
> > "TapRoot", a list of all active TLDs in the world with a recommended
>
> > subset for which a combination of "First Come, First Served" policy
> > and proper technical stability will be used to determine the widest
> > possible definition of the "Inclusive Name Space" that is stable and
>
> > sound. No longer will independent roots have to do all the research
> > themselves to include all the best of the internet, the TLDA will
> > regularly publish the ever evolving "TapRoot" to use as a starting
> > point. There will be no requirement that all the listed TLDs be
> > included in each root system, but it will no longer be difficult to
> > know which ones pass a defined set of standards, thus earning a
> place
> > in the TLDA's recommended list. Perhaps we will not have to endure
> > another travesty such as the virtual theft of an operational and
> > successful TLD like .BIZ simply because someone paid lots of money
> to
> > ICANN. When there is a basic protection of ones investments in
> > operating TLDs, more will be put into them and the entire internet
> > community will benefit, not just ICANN. It's time to get ready for
> > a new and inclusive internet. There have always been alternatives to
>
> > ICANN's root, but now they will be empowered to represent more and
> > better TLDs without re-creating the wheel to establish a workable
> > list. Now they will not suffer from the image that ICANN is the
> "real"
> > root of the US government, but understand it for what it is, just
> > another alliterative from which the internet community can choose.
> > Come and join our public list for more information and discussion of
>
> > these topics. We need not stay in the wilderness much longer! The
> > promised land is coming into view on the horizon!Sincerely
> yours,Karl
> > E. Peters, PresidentTop-Level Domain Association, Inc.
>
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