[governance] Letter to the MAG on visiblity of 'rights

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Mon Aug 11 23:11:40 EDT 2008


Max and all,

  Hummm?  Well still, I don't see any specified "Rights" articulated
in this link, just some very broad nebulus loosly collected thoughts.
So this surely can't be a "Bill of Rights" in any formal form?  Is
there such a document yet?

Max Senges wrote:

> hi jeffrey - here you go
> http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?rights_as_core_theme_of_the_igf
> - max
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Jeffrey A.
> Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>      Ginger and all,
>
>       I cannot at this time endorse as the links I have been able
>      to
>      find do not provide for the actual document to review.  Also
>
>      many of our members have expressed the same, yet have
>      great interest.  Can someone point me to the actual "Bill of
>
>      Rights" version with all amendments please?
>
>      Ginger Paque wrote:
>
>      > Yes!
>      >
>      > -----Mensaje original-----
>      > De: William Drake
>      [mailto:william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch]
>      > Enviado el: Martes, 12 de Agosto de 2008 04:53 a.m.
>      > Para: Governance; Singh, Parminder
>      > Asunto: Re: [governance] Letter to the MAG on visiblity of
>      'rights
>      >
>      > Yes
>      >
>      > Bill
>      >
>      > On 8/12/08 9:34 AM, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>      >
>      > > Yes.
>      > >
>      > > It's an important letter.
>      > >
>      > > Please endorse.
>      > >
>      > > Thanks,
>      > >
>      > > Adam
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >
>      > >> Hi All
>      > >>
>      > >> A little while ago, on this list, we discussed
>      > >> about writing to the MAG expressing our concern
>      > >> on dilution of Œrights¹ issues¹ in the IGF
>      > >> agenda and program, and there was general
>      > >> support that such a letter should be sent. The
>      > >> Dynamic Coalition on Internet Bill of Rights has
>      > >> prepared such a letter that they plan to send to
>      > >> the MAG on the 15th August, so that its content
>      > >> can be included in the official consultation
>      > >> document for September MAG consultation..
>      > >>
>      > >>  I put this letter for IGC¹s consideration and possible
>      endorsement.
>      > >>
>      > >> The letter can be seen at
>      > >>
>      >
>      <http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?rights_as_core_
>
>      > t
>      > >>
>      >
>      heme_of_the_igf>http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?
>
>      > r
>      > >> ights_as_core_theme_of_the_igf
>      > >> , and the final text is also given below this
>      > >> email
>      > >>
>      > >> Two things are important to note in this respect.
>      > >>
>      > >> (1) The letter is primarily been prepared, and
>      > >> is Œowned¹, by the dynamic coalition,  and at
>      > >> this stage, with only three days to go for the
>      > >> submission deadline of the 15th, we can only
>      > >> accept to endorse it or not endorse it in the
>      > >> shape that it is. It will not be possible to
>      > >> take in suggestions for any changes to the text
>      > >> as a condition for endorsement.
>      > >>
>      > >> (2) The fact that we are endorsing a letter
>      > >> prepared by the dynamic coalition, and that this
>      > >> is not directly an IGC letter, also means that
>      > >> in endorsing we need not be agreeing with each
>      > >> and every word of it. The option, as I said, is
>      > >> to broadly endorse such a letter or not to do
>      > >> so.
>      > >>
>      > >> I am putting this up for rough consensus. Please
>      > >> only indicate whether you do accept IGC
>      > >> endorsing the letter or not. A direct Œyes¹ or
>      > >> Œno¹ reply is required. While substantiating
>      > >> arguments may be stated, conditional acceptance
>      > >> will not be registered.
>      > >>
>      > >> Reponses to this may be sent within the next 48
>      > >> hours. At close of 48 hours from now the
>      > >> co-coordinators will judge whether a rough
>      > >> consensus on endorsing the letter is obtained or
>      > >> not, and take action accordingly.
>      > >>
>      > >> Thanks
>      > >>
>      > >> Parminder
>      > >>
>      > >>
>      > >> Rights as core theme of the IGF
>      > >>
>      > >> Dear IGF Secretariat and Multi-Stakeholder Advisory
>      Group,
>      > >>
>      > >> The Dynamic Coalition on the Internet Bill of
>      > >> Rights respectfully requests that the issue of
>      > >> rights and the internet is made a core agenda
>      > >> topic for the IGF. The Dynamic Coalition notes
>      > >> that, through the "openness" theme, rights have
>      > >> been a central topic in the previous IGFs, and
>      > >> is concerned that this topic appears to have
>      > >> been pushed down the draft agenda for this
>      > >> year's IGF in Hyderabad.
>      > >> We are greatly concerned by the significant
>      > >> reduction of emphasis on "openness" and
>      > >> "diversity" in the current agenda for Hyderabad.
>      > >> In particular, "openness and privacy" are only
>      > >> mentioned as a half of a sub-item of the general
>      > >> "Promoting Cyber-security and Trust" main theme.
>      > >> Rather than promoting positive discussion about
>      > >> how to expand the opportunities that the
>      > >> internet offers for realizing our fundamental
>      > >> rights and freedoms as enshrined in
>      > >> international law, the title of the main
>      > >> security theme plays on negativity and fear of
>      > >> the internet. We are concerned that the sessions
>      > >> will focus on security measures, without
>      > >> adequate discussion of how to ensure that these
>      > >> do not erode the capacity of the internet to
>      > >> support and advance human rights, for example to
>      > >> expression, culture, privacy and development.
>      > >> Given that, in addition to the IBR Dynamic
>      > >> Coalition, several other coalitions and IGF
>      > >> participants are also concerned with the limited
>      > >> consideration of rights on the program, we
>      > >> respectfully ask the Secretariat and
>      > >> Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group to reconsider
>      > >> the draft agenda and to add "Rights and the
>      > >> Internet" as a core theme for Hyderabad, and to
>      > >> work towards incorporating ŒRights and the
>      > >> Internet¹ into the IGF Cairo agenda as an
>      > >> overarching theme.
>      > >> We recognize that development of the draft
>      > >> agenda is well underway, but feel that it would
>      > >> still be possible to adapt the agenda without
>      > >> undue impact on the ongoing workshop merger
>      > >> process, by reorienting the sub-theme main
>      > >> session "Fostering Security, Privacy and
>      > >> Openness" to focus on rights. The issue of
>      > >> security would be better addressed in the
>      > >> partnering sub-theme session, coupled with the
>      > >> issue of cybercrime. The main plenary session
>      > >> could then bring these two strands together.
>      > >> Another possibility to give rights a more
>      > >> prominent stance would be to change the title of
>      > >> the main theme, "Promoting Cyber-security and
>      > >> Trust" to, "Balancing Security and Trust with
>      > >> Openness and Freedoms (or Rights)".
>      > >> As we wrote in the Dynamic Coalition report
>      > >> submitted to the Secretariat on 30th June, the
>      > >> coalition would like to offer its support in
>      > >> helping to shape such a session in partnership
>      > >> with the workshop organisers who have opted to
>      > >> merge with it. We also stand ready to engage in
>      > >> a dialogue with the Secretariat and Advisory
>      > >> Group in order to ensure that rights receive
>      > >> adequate attention at the IGF.
>      > >> We thank you for your consideration and await your
>      response.
>      > >> Kind regards,
>      > >> The Internet Bill of Rights Coalition
>      > >>
>      > >> About the Internet Bill of Rights Coalition
>      > >>
>      > >> The Internet Bill of Rights Dynamic Coalition is
>      > >> acting as an umbrella coalition for all
>      > >> individuals and groups who are concerned with
>      > >> rights issues and internet governance. The
>      > >> internet has unleashed a raft of opportunities
>      > >> to protect and expand our human rights as
>      > >> protected by international law, and offers
>      > >> significant new possibilities for development
>      > >> and empowerment. However, the internet also
>      > >> presents us with serious challenges, including
>      > >> how to balance the social goods that stem from
>      > >> the openness of the internet with the need for
>      > >> security, and how to ensure that the benefits
>      > >> that the internet brings are shared by all. The
>      > >> Dynamic Coalition on the Internet Bill of Rights
>      > >> is working to address these issues, with a view
>      > >> to ensuring that human rights are integral to
>      > >> internet governance processes and decisions.
>      > >> Our membership is diverse in terms of
>      > >> stakeholders, geography and view points. For
>      > >> example, some people in the coalition are
>      > >> concerned with ensuring that our rights our
>      > >> protected when we use the internet, some are
>      > >> working to ensure that rights underpin the norms
>      > >> that guide internet governance, and others are
>      > >> seeking to establish rights to the internet so
>      > >> that all have access to the benefits and
>      > >> opportunities it supports. Yet all of our
>      > >> members are keen to see a greater focus on
>      > >> rights in the main agenda of the IGF so that
>      > >> these important issues can be given the
>      > >> attention that they deserve.
>      > >> The topic of the "Internet Bill of Rights", as a
>      > >> specific IGF main agenda item and long-term
>      > >> goal, has already received a significant degree
>      > >> of wide spread interest and support. This has
>      > >> included an appeal by illustrious people at the
>      > >> second WSIS in Tunis, massive participation in
>      > >> the Coalition's workshops in Athens and Rio, a
>      > >> dedicated international conference in Rome with
>      > >> attendees from over 70 countries, and an
>      > >> official declaration by the governments of Italy
>      > >> and Brazil. We also note that organizations such
>      > >> as the Council of Europe and the Association for
>      > >> Progressive Communications have made similar
>      > >> requests for a stronger focus on rights at the
>      > >> IGF.
>      > >>
>      > >>
>      > >>
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"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
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