[governance] Letter to the MAG on visibility of 'rights

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Mon Aug 11 21:25:36 EDT 2008 

Ginger and all,

  Sorry none of the links your provided render the actual document
of the "Bill of Rights" to which the letter is associated.

Ginger Paque wrote:

> Jeffrey and all,
>
> As I understand it, the text of the letter we are discussing is the one at
> the bottom of this email. The actual Bill of Rights is a work in progress,
> with information available at: http://internet-bill-of-rights.org/en/; its
> documents available at: http://internet-bill-of-rights.org/en/doc.php and
> its Progress Report at http://internet-bill-of-rights.org/en/doc.php being
> the latest (June 30th) that I know of.
>
> Perhaps Max can fill in more information for this discussion.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jeffrey A. Williams [mailto:jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com]
> Enviado el: Lunes, 11 de Agosto de 2008 08:22 p.m.
> Para: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Asunto: Re: [governance] Letter to the MAG on visiblity of 'rights
>
> Ginger and all,
>
>   I cannot at this time endorse as the links I have been able to
> find do not provide for the actual document to review.  Also
> many of our members have expressed the same, yet have
> great interest.  Can someone point me to the actual "Bill of
> Rights" version with all amendments please?
>
> Ginger Paque wrote:
>
> > Yes!
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch]
> > Enviado el: Martes, 12 de Agosto de 2008 04:53 a.m.
> > Para: Governance; Singh, Parminder
> > Asunto: Re: [governance] Letter to the MAG on visiblity of 'rights
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On 8/12/08 9:34 AM, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > It's an important letter.
> > >
> > > Please endorse.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi All
> > >>
> > >> A little while ago, on this list, we discussed
> > >> about writing to the MAG expressing our concern
> > >> on dilution of Œrights¹ issues¹ in the IGF
> > >> agenda and program, and there was general
> > >> support that such a letter should be sent. The
> > >> Dynamic Coalition on Internet Bill of Rights has
> > >> prepared such a letter that they plan to send to
> > >> the MAG on the 15th August, so that its content
> > >> can be included in the official consultation
> > >> document for September MAG consultation..
> > >>
> > >>  I put this letter for IGC¹s consideration and possible endorsement.
> > >>
> > >> The letter can be seen at
> > >>
> >
> <http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?rights_as_core_
> > t
> > >>
> >
> heme_of_the_igf>http://www.socialtext.net/internet-bill-of-rights/index.cgi?
> > r
> > >> ights_as_core_theme_of_the_igf
> > >> , and the final text is also given below this
> > >> email
> > >>
> > >> Two things are important to note in this respect.
> > >>
> > >> (1) The letter is primarily been prepared, and
> > >> is Œowned¹, by the dynamic coalition,  and at
> > >> this stage, with only three days to go for the
> > >> submission deadline of the 15th, we can only
> > >> accept to endorse it or not endorse it in the
> > >> shape that it is. It will not be possible to
> > >> take in suggestions for any changes to the text
> > >> as a condition for endorsement.
> > >>
> > >> (2) The fact that we are endorsing a letter
> > >> prepared by the dynamic coalition, and that this
> > >> is not directly an IGC letter, also means that
> > >> in endorsing we need not be agreeing with each
> > >> and every word of it. The option, as I said, is
> > >> to broadly endorse such a letter or not to do
> > >> so.
> > >>
> > >> I am putting this up for rough consensus. Please
> > >> only indicate whether you do accept IGC
> > >> endorsing the letter or not. A direct Œyes¹ or
> > >> Œno¹ reply is required. While substantiating
> > >> arguments may be stated, conditional acceptance
> > >> will not be registered.
> > >>
> > >> Reponses to this may be sent within the next 48
> > >> hours. At close of 48 hours from now the
> > >> co-coordinators will judge whether a rough
> > >> consensus on endorsing the letter is obtained or
> > >> not, and take action accordingly.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Parminder
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rights as core theme of the IGF
> > >>
> > >> Dear IGF Secretariat and Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group,
> > >>
> > >> The Dynamic Coalition on the Internet Bill of
> > >> Rights respectfully requests that the issue of
> > >> rights and the internet is made a core agenda
> > >> topic for the IGF. The Dynamic Coalition notes
> > >> that, through the "openness" theme, rights have
> > >> been a central topic in the previous IGFs, and
> > >> is concerned that this topic appears to have
> > >> been pushed down the draft agenda for this
> > >> year's IGF in Hyderabad.
> > >> We are greatly concerned by the significant
> > >> reduction of emphasis on "openness" and
> > >> "diversity" in the current agenda for Hyderabad.
> > >> In particular, "openness and privacy" are only
> > >> mentioned as a half of a sub-item of the general
> > >> "Promoting Cyber-security and Trust" main theme.
> > >> Rather than promoting positive discussion about
> > >> how to expand the opportunities that the
> > >> internet offers for realizing our fundamental
> > >> rights and freedoms as enshrined in
> > >> international law, the title of the main
> > >> security theme plays on negativity and fear of
> > >> the internet. We are concerned that the sessions
> > >> will focus on security measures, without
> > >> adequate discussion of how to ensure that these
> > >> do not erode the capacity of the internet to
> > >> support and advance human rights, for example to
> > >> expression, culture, privacy and development.
> > >> Given that, in addition to the IBR Dynamic
> > >> Coalition, several other coalitions and IGF
> > >> participants are also concerned with the limited
> > >> consideration of rights on the program, we
> > >> respectfully ask the Secretariat and
> > >> Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group to reconsider
> > >> the draft agenda and to add "Rights and the
> > >> Internet" as a core theme for Hyderabad, and to
> > >> work towards incorporating ŒRights and the
> > >> Internet¹ into the IGF Cairo agenda as an
> > >> overarching theme.
> > >> We recognize that development of the draft
> > >> agenda is well underway, but feel that it would
> > >> still be possible to adapt the agenda without
> > >> undue impact on the ongoing workshop merger
> > >> process, by reorienting the sub-theme main
> > >> session "Fostering Security, Privacy and
> > >> Openness" to focus on rights. The issue of
> > >> security would be better addressed in the
> > >> partnering sub-theme session, coupled with the
> > >> issue of cybercrime. The main plenary session
> > >> could then bring these two strands together.
> > >> Another possibility to give rights a more
> > >> prominent stance would be to change the title of
> > >> the main theme, "Promoting Cyber-security and
> > >> Trust" to, "Balancing Security and Trust with
> > >> Openness and Freedoms (or Rights)".
> > >> As we wrote in the Dynamic Coalition report
> > >> submitted to the Secretariat on 30th June, the
> > >> coalition would like to offer its support in
> > >> helping to shape such a session in partnership
> > >> with the workshop organisers who have opted to
> > >> merge with it. We also stand ready to engage in
> > >> a dialogue with the Secretariat and Advisory
> > >> Group in order to ensure that rights receive
> > >> adequate attention at the IGF.
> > >> We thank you for your consideration and await your response.
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >> The Internet Bill of Rights Coalition
> > >>
> > >> About the Internet Bill of Rights Coalition
> > >>
> > >> The Internet Bill of Rights Dynamic Coalition is
> > >> acting as an umbrella coalition for all
> > >> individuals and groups who are concerned with
> > >> rights issues and internet governance. The
> > >> internet has unleashed a raft of opportunities
> > >> to protect and expand our human rights as
> > >> protected by international law, and offers
> > >> significant new possibilities for development
> > >> and empowerment. However, the internet also
> > >> presents us with serious challenges, including
> > >> how to balance the social goods that stem from
> > >> the openness of the internet with the need for
> > >> security, and how to ensure that the benefits
> > >> that the internet brings are shared by all. The
> > >> Dynamic Coalition on the Internet Bill of Rights
> > >> is working to address these issues, with a view
> > >> to ensuring that human rights are integral to
> > >> internet governance processes and decisions.
> > >> Our membership is diverse in terms of
> > >> stakeholders, geography and view points. For
> > >> example, some people in the coalition are
> > >> concerned with ensuring that our rights our
> > >> protected when we use the internet, some are
> > >> working to ensure that rights underpin the norms
> > >> that guide internet governance, and others are
> > >> seeking to establish rights to the internet so
> > >> that all have access to the benefits and
> > >> opportunities it supports. Yet all of our
> > >> members are keen to see a greater focus on
> > >> rights in the main agenda of the IGF so that
> > >> these important issues can be given the
> > >> attention that they deserve.
> > >> The topic of the "Internet Bill of Rights", as a
> > >> specific IGF main agenda item and long-term
> > >> goal, has already received a significant degree
> > >> of wide spread interest and support. This has
> > >> included an appeal by illustrious people at the
> > >> second WSIS in Tunis, massive participation in
> > >> the Coalition's workshops in Athens and Rio, a
> > >> dedicated international conference in Rome with
> > >> attendees from over 70 countries, and an
> > >> official declaration by the governments of Italy
> > >> and Brazil. We also note that organizations such
> > >> as the Council of Europe and the Association for
> > >> Progressive Communications have made similar
> > >> requests for a stronger focus on rights at the
> > >> IGF.
> > >>
> > >>
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>
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"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
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div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
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