[governance] USG on ICANN - no movement here

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Milton and all,

  What direction do you suggest exactly?  Surely not the UN/ITU
mess!  That would be like going from the frying pan into the fire.

  Maybe just turning the management of the Internet over to Syracuse,
so you can be king would be expectable?  >:)

Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Thanks, Siavash, for your welcome dose of common sense and your factual
> contribution to Levine's ideological gloss. What a contrast...
>
> As I suggested in my earlier message, I am still wondering what is
> "adult" about US DoC supervision. I certainly understand the
> geopolitical motivation behind it, but I don't see the value add for the
> Internet.
>
> Avri hit the nail on the head. The USG is reasserting its bargaining
> position, and yes, it does hold a lot of the cards, but those facts
> shouldn't change our perception of what is right nor should USG
> stubbornness be allowed to undermine efforts to move in the direction of
> what is right.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Siavash Shahshahani [mailto:shahshah at irnic.ir]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:27 AM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; John Levine
> > Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> > Subject: Re: [governance] USG on ICANN - no movement here
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > > The US DOC are not stupid, and they have been extremely careful not
> to
> > > act in ways that would impinge on the sovereignty of other
> countries,
> > > so although there's been a certain amount of harrumphing on
> principle
> > > from some governments,
> >
> > It's not only governments and matters of sovereignty and principle, it
> > also has to do with the day to day operation of IANA. You may not
> believe
> > that a change of my fax number in IANA database(as a ccTLD
> > operator)requires the non-trivial consent of DoC. But if you'd waited
> six
> > months to have just such a change realized or had waited 3 1/2 years
> to
> > have your IDN Language Table published in IANA Repository (something
> that
> > normally required 5 days), you'd know what I'm talking about. Why have
> I
> > kept quiet? Because I believe the ITU alternative is even worse. At
> this
> > time I think the best thing is to keep repeating and insisting that US
> > govt politics should not in any way affect IANA services, and if they
> do,
> > then the USG is forfeiting whatever 'historical role' it claims to
> have.
> > Siavash
> > ex-ALAC, .ir director
> >
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