[governance] USG on ICANN - no movement here

[McTim]

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Yehuda Katz <yehudakatz at mailinator.com> wrote:
> Thanks McTim,
>
> YES I've been told ....
>
>>and you've been told (repeatedly) that the IGC (this "organisation")
>>is nothing to do with CPSR.
>
> But a -Social Movement- is a collective organism.
> The path of Global-Internet-Neutrality (GIN) encompasses Organizations such as
> CPSR.
>
> Whether pro or con, the fact that You'er here proves that.
> This mail-list is attestiment to that -Social Movement-.
> The Whos-Who of this List have been advocating for quite some time now,
> for a form of 'Independent and Self Governance'.

which is what we have with the (IMHO) extremely minor exception of the
USG having a historical role in approving changes to the root (and
IANA).

>
> We (IGC) may be Dissidents in the eyes of most Industrialist and Governments.
> But not from within CPSR. (try to think of CPSR as - Little Switzerland)

Let's just leave CPSR out of it, shall we?

>
> John's thread - "USG on ICANN - no movement here" is apt,
> there is "no movement here", that being no "Social Movement".

Except that which allowed the network to grow beyond its research
roots, of course (which is perhaps the most profound "movement" in
human history).

>
> So tell me McTim,
>
> What can be done to strengthen this Organization? [the IGC]

Many things can be done to strengthen this caucus;

we can stop obsessing about the USG role in ICANN for one, (we can
stop obsessing about ICANN too for that matter).

It would be most useful if we were to implement the list of tasks
found at http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html

I like #4 in particular, but "The Whos-Who of this List" (I thought we
had no hierarchy here, but never mind) seems not to be able or agree
on who might be CS in IG circles, so we seem to be at an impasse
there.

>
> Or thruth-to-be-known, you don't want Us to be Strong.
>

Is that a question or a statement? If I wanted us to be weak, I
wouldn't have made such a stink about following the charter (to the
letter).

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
mctim.blogspot.com
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