[governance] IGF workshops-Rights To/On the Internet

Michael Gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 12:39:06 EDT 2008


Karen, my co-convenor on the "Rights" Workshop is travelling I think, at the
moment...

In my earlier note in this thread I didn't mean to imply that the
formulation of the "Rights" Workshop was not a work in progress where
additional inputs would not be welcomed but rather that it was a bit late to
re-open the discussion prior to the April 30 deadline.

So far, contributors to the consensus on the current formulation of the
Workshop (apart from Karen/APC, Parminder and myself) have included Max
Senges,  Konstantinos Komaitis, Robert Guerra, Max Senges, Robin Gross, Lisa
Horner, vittorio Bertola and linda misek-falkoff. (apologies if I've missed
anyone).

Certainly more contributors are welcomed and we can either continue with a
thread on the full list or, as we did earlier develop an inclusive side
discussion.

MG  

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu] 
Sent: April 29, 2008 8:52 AM
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Cc: Parminder
Subject: Re: [governance] IGF workshops


A yes to all 4 workshop proposals from me as well.
I hope though that the one on rights will be revised after the submission.
jeanette

shaila mistry wrote:
> "Yes" to all four workshops
> Shaila Rao Mistry
> 
> */Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi all
> 
>     Please find enclosed the full text of four workshop proposals, that
IGC
>     proposes to sponsor at the IGF, Hyderabad.
> 
>     1. The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control and
> Sovereignty
> 
>     2. The Future of ICANN: After the JPA, What?
> 
>     3. A Rights Agenda for Internet Governance
> 
>     4. The role and mandate of the IGF
> 
> 
>     These are being put for a 48 hour consensus process. If a consensus or
a
>     rough consensus is made out, these proposals will be submitted to
>     the IGF
>     secretariat on the 30th, around 5 PM GMT.
> 
>     Please indicate a clear 'yes' or 'no' for forwarding these proposals,
as
>     they stand...
> 
>     While additional comments justifying a yes or no vote may be made,
they
>     should follow a clear unqualified 'yes' or 'no'.
> 
>     In fact such additional comments are welcome especially in case of a
>     'no'
>     vote, because it helps calling a possible rough consensus, taking into
>     consideration the nature and the extent of dissent.
> 
>     Thanks
> 
>     Parminder
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>     From: "Bret Fausett" <bfausett at internet.law.pro>
>     To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>     Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal: Transboundary Internet
>     Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:57:53 +0530
> 
>     All, below is a draft workshop proposal that Meryem Marzouki, William 
>     Drake, Ian Peter, Parminder Singh and I have been working on. We plan 
>     to submit it by the deadline, but would like your input and 
>     suggestions, on all aspects.
>           -- Bret
>     - - - - - D R A F T - - - - -
>     1.      Name of proposed workshop
>     The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control and Sovereignty
>     2.      Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop theme 
>     including its importance and relevance to the IGF.
>     The Internet crosses the boundaries of all nations and raises some 
>     unique transboundary jurisdictional problems. The recent case of a 
>     British citizen living in Spain, with Internet servers in the Bahamas,

>     selling holidays to Cuba, and having his domain name impounded by a 
>     registrar located in the USA because it appeared to break the US 
>     embargo against Cuba is one recent case in point. Another landmark 
>     case was the French-US Yahoo! case in 1999 dealing with sale of nazi 
>     memorabilia, but but apart from these high profile content cases there

>     are many examples in other areas such as privacy, consumer issues, 
>     cybercrime, and intellectual property.
>     This workshop will discuss the many implications of competing national

>     jurisdictions being projected into a globalized space where multiple 
>     normative sources apply, such as political, legal, technical, 
>     contractual, and behavioral regulations. Through practical case 
>     studies, this workshop will look at the implications of various 
>     approaches to resolving these issues and the implications for Internet

>     governance, international law, national sovereignty, democracy, and 
>     human rights and fundamental freedoms.
>     The workshop also explores the implications for Internet governance 
>     where no structures are in place to deal with emerging issues, and how

>     default unilateral action in the absence of structural alternatives 
>     can lead to de facto Internet governance.
>     3.      Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are 
>     planning to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and whether 
>     you have approached them about their willingness to participate in 
>     proposed workshop.
>     NB. Workshop duration is 90mn, which means that we should have no more

>     than 6-7 panelists plus chair. This is a tentative list of speakers.
>     •       Maud de Boer-Buquicchio, Deputy Secretary General, The
>     Council of 
>     Europe
>     •       Manon Ress /James Love, Knowledge Ecology
>     International/CPTech, USA
>     •       Meryem Marzouki, President, European Digital Rights, Europe
>     •       Bret A. Fausett, Internet law Attorney, Cathcart, Collins & 
>     Kneafsey, LLP USA
>     •       Ian Peter, Internet Analyst, Ian Peter and Associates,
>     Australia
>     •       William Drake, Graduate Institute of International and
>     Development 
>     Studies, Switzerland
>     Yet to be approached: other identified experts with various 
>     perspectives on specific case studies.
>     Themes to be discussed by speakers:
>     •       Liability and the principle of the country of origin
>     (off-line and 
>     on-line content): Convention on Transfrontier television, Rome II, 
>     Convention on TV without Frontiers,
>     •       Consumer protection, contracts, etc.: Hague Convention,
>     E-commerce 
>     directive
>     •       Cybercrime: The CoE Convention, its protocols and
>     implementation 
>     activities
>     •       Technical and contractual means: ISP charters and hotlines,
>     blocking 
>     (cf. Pakistan case)
>     •       Harmonization of national laws through intergovernmental
>     agreements
>     4.      Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their

>     affiliation to various stakeholder groups. Describe how you will take 
>     steps to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, geographical 
>     diversity and gender balance.
>     -       The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (Civil society)
>     -       The Council of Europe – TBC (Intergovernmental organization)
>     -       European Digital Rights (Civil society)
>     -       Knowledge Ecology International (KEI/CPTech) – TBC (Civil
>     society)
>     -       Ian Peter and Associates – TBC (Private sector)
>     Yet to be approached: Some governments (e.g. France, USA, 
>     Netherlands, ...); other intergovernmental organizations (e.g. OSCE, 
>     OCDE,...), other private sector constituencies (e.g. ISP associations,

>     newspaper associations, registrars, search engine/social networking 
>     companies, ...); other civil society constituencies.
>     5.      Does the proposed workshop provide different perspectives on
>     the 
>     issues under discussion?
>     Yes. Expertise is being sought from various areas to provide a 
>     comprehensive coverage of issues and perspectives involved (to be 
>     updated later).
>     6.      Please explain how the workshop will address issues relating
>     to 
>     Internet governance and describe how the workshop conforms with the 
>     Tunis Agenda in terms of substance and the mandate of the IGF.
>     The first and foremost need for global Internet governance 
>     arrangements comes from the global, cross-boundaries nature of the 
>     Internet. Issues with global Internet governance are not only related 
>     to critical Internet resources management, but also to the circulation

>     of content and data and to the protection of the general 
>     communications infrastructure. Jurisdictions, control and sovereignty 
>     issues are thus at the heart of global Internet governance 
>     discussions. Given the difficulty to harmonize national legislations, 
>     and given the issue of the competence of jurisdictions, alternative 
>     methods to State regulations are more and more considered, promoted 
>     and implemented. It is the very aim of this workshop to explore and 
>     discuss these alternatives.
>     TA: Para 72(b)(c)(g)(i)(k)
>     7.      List similar events you and/or any other IGF workshops you
>     have 
>     organized in the past.
>     The Civil,Society Internet Governance Caucus and other sponsors have 
>     organized workshops at previous IGF meetings (to be updated later)
>     8.      Were you part of organizing a workshop last year? Which one?
>     Did 
>     you submit a workshop report?
>     Yes (to be updated with list of previous workshops)
>     9.      Under which of the five IGF themes does the proposal fall
>     under ?
>     •       Managing the Internet (Using the Internet)
>     •       Arrangements for Internet governance
>     - - - - - D R A F T - - - - -
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>     From: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu>
>     To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>     Subject: [governance] Internationalization Workshop
>     Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:42:02 +0530
> 
> 
>     Here is the proposal as it now stands. Note that after two requests we
>     are still waiting for volunteers/interested parties from this list.
>     1. Name of proposed workshop 
>     The Future of ICANN: After the JPA, What?
>      
>     2. Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop theme
>     including its importance and relevance to the IGF.
>     ICANN, which coordinates and sets policy for the global domain name
>     system (DNS) and IP addressing, is linked to the US Government
>     through a
>     Joint Project Agreement (JPA) that expires in September 2009. The JPA
>     and its renewal process provides what, during WSIS, became known as
>     "political oversight" over ICANN. The US government says that it is
>     committed to "completing the transition" to private sector
coordination
>     of the Domain Name System, which implies an expiration of the JPA.
>     During the recent mid-term review, ICANN made it clear that it also
>     strongly supports an end to the JPA. ICANN's call was supported by
some
>     stakeholders, but others expressed concerns about ensuring its
>     accountability without some kind of governmental oversight.
>     This panel is designed to provide a careful and balanced exploration
of
>     whether ICANN is ready to be free of US government oversight, and if
so
>     what kind of external oversight - if any - should replace it.
Panelists
>     will be encouraged to provide specific models for ICANN's status and
>     various oversight models and offer practical suggestions on how to
make
>     changes in the current situation. Advocates of retaining the status
quo
>     will also be represented.
>      
>     3. Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are
>     planning
>     to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and whether you have
>     you approached them about their willingness to participate in proposed
>     workshop.
>      
>     ICANN: Peter Dengate Thrush
>     IGP: Milton Mueller
>     Dr. Vladimir V. Sokolov, Moscow State University, Deputy Director,
>     International Institute for
>     Government of Canada
>     Michael Palage, Attorney and former ICANN Board member
>     Nashwa Abdel Baki, Egyptian Universities Network (EUN)
>     <civil society representative selected by IGC>
>     Internet Society - either Stefano Trumpy or Lynn St. Amour
>     Milton Mueller
>     Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>     XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
>     ------------------------------
>     Internet Governance Project:
>     http://internetgovernance.org
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>     From: "karen banks" <karenb at gn.apc.org>
>     To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>     Subject: [governance] IGC workshop: A rights agenda for Internet
>     Governance
>     Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:41:15 +0530
> 
>     Dear all
> 
>     A working group comprised of the following folk have worked hard to
>     draft a proposal on:
> 
>     A rights agenda for internet goernance
> 
>     The working group included : Michael Gurstein,  Parminder Jeet
>     Singh,  Lisa Horner, Konstantinos Komaitis, Vittorio Bertola, Robin
>     Gross, Robert Guerra, rafik dammak, linda misek-falkoff and myself.
>     I believe posts were also shared from time to time with the bill or
>     rights coalition. (colleagues - please clarify any omissions i may
>     have made in that list..)
> 
>     It was a very interesting drafting process, and we fully realise
>     that this is a complex and challenging topic to bring to the IGF
>     Table - but we are convinced that it is not only relevant to the IGF
>     Mandate, but central to the mandate and the long term impact of the
>     IGF process.
> 
>     Please review the attached draft - we look forward to your comments
>     in relation to
> 
>     - the substantive sections (q2 and q6)
>     - ideas for panellists and main actors in the field (q3)
>     - ideas for 2 or 3 additional co-sponsors (q4)
>     - your thoughts on which theme(s) the proposal best fits with - i
>     would say it's an 'missing' crosscut ;)
> 
>     we'll take a round of comments til end monday (april 28th) and take
>     it from there..
> 
>     thanks everyone
> 
>     karen (for michael, parminder and the working group)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>     From: "Jeremy Malcolm" <Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au>
>     To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>     Subject: [governance] Workshop proposal: The Role and Mandate of the
IGF
>     Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:48:37 +0530
> 
>     A small working group comprising Lee McKnight, Karen Banks, Baudouin 
>     Schombe and myself was recently convened by Parminder to work on a 
>     proposal for a workshop for Hyderabad on "The Role and Mandate of the 
>     IGF".
>     Whilst not everyone in the working group has had the time to consider 
>     this text (which myself, Baudouin and Parminder contributed to), it is

>     presented now due to pressure of time, since the approval of the 
>     caucus is required before 30 April.
>     Please send comments on the draft proposal to the list as soon as 
>     possible.  Thank you!
>     --- begins ---
>     Title of the Workshop: 'The role and mandate of the IGF'
>     Civil Society Internet Caucus held a workshop on the same theme, 'The 
>     role and mandate of the IGF', at IGF, Rio. A report of this first 
>     workshop is found athttp://intgovforum.org/Rio_event_report.php?
>     mem=30. It was driven by an identification of a need for regular self-
>     appraisal of the IGF vis-à-vis its mandated role. Such a ‘periodic 
>     review’ is also required by the Tunis Agenda (paragraph 73 b). 
>     Consequently, the caucus proposes to hold a workshop with the same 
>     title during IGF, Hyderabad.
>     The role and mandate of the Internet Governance Forum were set out in 
>     general terms at the World Summit on the Information Society, 
>     particularly in paragraph 72 of the Tunis Agenda.  However since the 
>     conclusion of the World Summit, various interpretations of this 
>     general statement of the IGF's role and mandate have been put forward 
>     and continue to be debated amongst its stakeholders.  Some believe 
>     that there are elements of the IGF's mandate that have been overlooked

>     or minimised in its operation to date.  Others maintain, to the 
>     contrary, that the IGF must contain the overreaching ambitions of 
>     those who would transform it from a non-binding forum for discussion 
>     into something more.
>     Since IGF, Hyderabad, represents the midpoint in the initial 5 year 
>     term of the IGF after which the whole IGF process is sought to be 
>     reviewed. It will be pertinent at this midpoint to
>     (1)        review how the IGF has fared till now vis-à-vis its TA 
>     mandate, and whether any structure and/or substance corrections are 
>     needed for the remaining part of its initial 5 year mandate
>     (2)        what are the emerging views on post-2010 arrangements for 
>     the IGF, if one is at all needed.
>     There has been unmistakable improvements in the IGF format and 
>     substance since its first meeting whether it has been to include 
>     topics earlier considered too controversial (CIRs for Rio) or more 
>     focused discussions on specific issues (as per tentative program for 
>     Hyderabad). The directions of these changes vis-à-vis fulfillment of 
>     the mandate of the IGF may also be an important issue of discussion. 
>     Since paragraph 73 also speaks about a ‘decentralized structure’ it 
>     will also be worth exploring how can the IGF be decentralized beyond 
>     the present structure of a single annual event, perhaps by exploring 
>     IGF like structures at the regional and national levels (which will 
>     inter aliafulfill part of the requirements of paragraph 80) and 
>     working group working on important issues contributing to the 
>     proceedings of the annual event.
>     -- 
>     Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com
>     Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor
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