[governance] MAG candidates - publishing details of nominess and self nominees
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Wed Apr 23 18:29:19 EDT 2008
Folks,
One matter the Nomcom needs to discuss further is whether it is appropriate
or useful to publish lists and/or details of candidates who were nominated
or who self-nominated for MAG and who were rejected. Although this was done
last year, I have some substantial reservations about this and in the
absence of an extremely clear indication from both the list in general and
from individual candidates in particular that this is appropriate, I think
our best interests are served by not publishing.
Firstly, it would not have been clear to the majority of candidates who
applied this year that their names and detailed nominations might be
published for all to see. That's not normal practice when applying for
positions, and in other Nomcoms I have been associated with (ISOC and ICANN)
is not the practice - reporting mentions number of nominees from regions,
gender etc and overall stats is the preferred method, but not names of
candidates who have not been selected.
I think non publication is a better course of action within IGC for several
reasons. As regards candidates, it's difficult to get a slate of good
candidates to select from for CS without self nomination. And some people
feel a little embarrassed for everyone to know they nominated themselves.
And of course, many people who nominate do so in good faith but would not
actually like everyone to know they were rejected if they were not selected.
And as regards Nomcom members - I think we actually make it more difficult
to attract Nomcom volunteers if we publish details of rejected candidates.
Not that I expect assassins on my doorstep, but I do not relish ongoing
debates on a CS list about the merits and demerits of candidates selected or
not selected, knowing it is totally inappropriate to be involved as a member
of the nomcom in such discussions and knowing that those discussions are
occurring in the absence of any knowledge of the detailed considerations,
issues, accommodation of differing viewpoints and balancing of perspectives
that it necessary to come to any agreement in any nomcom.
So, I believe a CS Nomcom can do its business more effectively if it is not
required to publish rejected candidate names and details. I also believe
that, having put in place a good process for ensuring a Nomcom is selected
randomly and cannot be stacked in any way, CS should let them go about their
work and trust that they were sensible enough to take into account the range
of considerations that exist within CS. I don't think it is at all useful
for us to debate merits of individual candidates and why some were or were
not selected on this list, and therefore see no need for names to be known.
A detailed report, however, is essential, covering generalities and
explaining considerations, criteria and methodologies adopted by the Nomcom.
That and any ensuing debate should be sufficient.
I know there will be other opinions on this, and I think we should discuss
this as regards future policy. For this year, if individual candidates
indicate a preference for this information not to be published (either on
the list or in personal email to me if preferred) I will continue to argue
within Nomcom that this request for privacy should be honoured for this
year.
As regards future years, if most people really think that these details
should be published and there is a clear consensus to do so, it must be made
known to candidates applying that their details will be published. I believe
that will reduce the number of nominations, and our effectiveness in
attracting a good range of candidates, and I am not sure this is balanced by
any particular positive arising from availability of this information
outside of the selected Nomcom
I raise this now so that the general feelings of the list can be covered in
the report the Nomcom will present next week with ay recommendations as
regards future actions.
Ian Peter
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: carlos a. afonso [mailto:ca at rits.org.br]
> Sent: 23 April 2008 21:46
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; vcretu at cmb.md
> Cc: Jeanette Hofmann; lists at privaterra.info; alc-cmsi at wsis-cs.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Nomcom - Slate of candidates
>
> Dear people,
>
> It is important to take into account that, as facilitator of the online
> voting process by the LA&C Caucus, I am expressing these concerns
> regarding regional balance in the final list of indications by the IGC
> NomCom on behalf of the LA&C Caucus -- who has submitted a list of five
> names to the IGC (and to the IGF secretariat as well), and this is what
> makes it even more difficult to understand the NomCom's decision
> regarding our region.
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vcretu at cmb.md
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Carlos Afonso" <ca at rits.org.br>
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Jeanette Hofmann" <jeanette at wzb.eu>,
> lists at privaterra.info, alc-cmsi at wsis-cs.org
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:08:12 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC Nomcom - Slate of candidates
>
> > Greetings, just a brief comment/question: when we are talking about
> > Europe
> > we definitely do not see Central and Eastern Europe nor we see Newly
> > Independent States (NIS) either ... Any applications received from
> > these
> > parts of the world?!
> >
> > regards from Moldova,
> > Veronica Cretu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Interesting... but argument valid for all regions, of course. Still
> > does
> > > not explain why our region got only two indications as compared to
> > all
> > > others.
> > >
> > > frt rgds
> > >
> > > --c.a.
> > >
> > > Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure the number of nominees really matters that much.
> > Since it
> > >> is unlikely that civil society will be able to increase its share
> > on the
> > >> MAG, less than half of the nominees have a chance to be selected.
> > More
> > >> candidates from a region means that the secretariat has more
> > choice. It
> > >> certainly won't lead to a larger representation from that region.
> > >> jeanette
> > >>
> > >> Carlos Afonso wrote:
> > >>> Hi people,
> > >>>
> > >>> My immediate reaction: Latin America and the Caribbean have only
> > two
> > >>> candidates indicated (none of the two are from the Caribbean),
> > while
> > >>> all other regions have at least three -- I note particularly that
> > >>> Europe and North America (developed regions) have three each. I
> > do not
> > >>> think the NomCom was very successful regarding regional balance,
> > to
> > >>> put it diplomatically.
> > >>>
> > >>> fraternal regards
> > >>>
> > >>> --c.a.
> > >>>
> > >>> lists at privaterra.info wrote:
> > >>>> As IGC 08 Nomcom chair, it is my pleasure to announce the slate
> > of
> > >>>> candidates the nomcom has come to agreement on.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A complete final report will follow ASAP documenting - process
> > >>>> followed by
> > >>>> the nomcom, evaluation criteria and issues discussed,
> > recommendation
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> IGC and future nomcoms to consider as well as set of complete
> > bio
> > >>>> profiles
> > >>>> for the candidates.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The nomcom requests at this time that the candidates listed
> > below
> > >>>> please
> > >>>> send an email to - nomcom08 at lists.privaterra.org - confirming
> > two
> > >>>> things -
> > >>>> 1. their interest in being recommended to the MAG and 2.
> > committing to
> > >>>> regularly post updates to the IGC mailing list. The confirmation
> > will
> > >>>> be
> > >>>> included in the final report.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I thank all the persons who submitted their name for
> > consideration
> > >>>> and the
> > >>>> nomcom for its very hard work and engaging discussions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We still have a report to complete, but our task is almost
> > done...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> regards
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Robert Guerra
> > >>>> 2008 IGC Nomcom Chair.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> # of nominations submitted: 33
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Total # of candidates recommended by Nomcom : 15
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Statistics:
> > >>>> - Regional allocation : Africa (3), Asia Pacific (4), Europe
> > (3), LAC
> > >>>> (2),
> > >>>> North America (3)
> > >>>> - Female: 7 (46.6%) , Male 8 (53.3%)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Africa
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Natasha Primo
> > >>>> Dawit Bekele
> > >>>> Ken Lohento
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Asia
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Adam Peake
> > >>>> Izumi Aizu
> > >>>> Y. J. Park
> > >>>> Iffat Rose Gill
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Europe
> > >>>>
> > >>>> William Drake
> > >>>> Vittorio Bertola
> > >>>> Jeanette Hofmann
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> LAC
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Valeria Betancourt
> > >>>> Graciela Selaimen
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> North America
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Robin Gross
> > >>>> Milton Mueller
> > >>>> Michael Gurstein
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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