[governance] AW: coordinator elections

Tue Apr 15 05:24:17 EDT 2008

Thanks Parminder

it helps and fine with me. 

I propose to look for another strong woman as the co-chair / co-coordinator if Vittorio resigns, butr we have certainly go through a process which would give the elected person the legitimicy she/he needs.

w

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Von: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
Gesendet: Di 15.04.2008 11:06
An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang; 'Jeanette Hofmann'
Betreff: coordinator elections

Wolfgang

As a practice we shd and follow the principle that old appointments stay
till new ones are in place. There are admin problems, and associated
problems of adequate dynamism of the group, which does delay appointments.
But we are in a formative period and should accept this looseness/
flexibility to the extent this in inevitable.

So, Vittorio is still a co-coordinator, though I can understand his
reluctance of doing much beyond an announced period of end of coordinator
ship which thought the charter says should end around June, we find it more
convenient to end it with the annual IGF (though never formally decided, so
open to comments).

The main problem with voting for new coordinator to replace Vittorio has
been (1) non availability of online voting system used the last time, which
now has been solved (2) the problem, which I have tried to discuss here
earlier, of who is qualified as a voter.

The IGC charter says membership consists of those who have endorsed the
charter. Now, we have a list of those who voted in the charter vote, but
still not the names of those 3 who voted against the charter at that time.
So we really do not have the list of charter endorsees. Those who would have
joined IGC later may never have considered the option, may not know if it,
of endorsing the charter.

Though in the case of a few scores who joined after I sent out an invite
earlier this year, I clearly asked them about charter endorsement, and we
have a separate list of those among them who have endorsed the charter. But
they all in any case are still not eligible to vote.

As for the situation with the last elections, I quote my email of 24th
March, also enclosed, where I had solicited members views on the voting
rights issue.

"The ballot for the co-coordinator election of 2006 carried a proviso that
"by voting you affirm that you consider yourself a Civil Society participant
of the Internet Governance Caucus""

"I am trying to obtain the full list of those who voted in this election.
However I still wonder if an affirmation, that too only by implication and
not as a forthright statement, of being a 'CS participant of IGC' itself can
mean that one has endorsed the charter. It is likely that someone who does
enter into discussion on the list, but does not mean to endorse the charter
can say yes to this proviso and proceed to vote. And not be dishonest or
untruthful in doing so."

(ends)

So, what I now propose for the coordinator elections to send an email to all
those on the IGC since exactly 2 months from with something like

"This is to prepare a voting list for the election of co-coordinator of IGC.
The charter of the IGC at
http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html lays down that the
membership of IG consists of those who have endorsed the IGC charter. If you
endorse the IGC charter pleas cut paste the following lines and reply to
this email.

"I have read the IGC charter at .... and endorse it". With your full name
appended to this.

We will prepare a voting list of all who reply in say 10 days, and a ballot
will be sent to all of them and they given a week to vote.

As you know we have two candidates, David Goldstein and Ian Peter.

Please comment within the next 4 days if this process is fine with you. Also
give your suggestions etc. Avri has offered to help me with this process,
and we will commence it sometime next week.

Parminder

Avri - on your email on appeals committee, we will put one together after
this election, but as I said till a new one comes in we still go to the old
one for all purposes, including coordinator recall, and that it stays live.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:54 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Parminder; Jeanette Hofmann;
> governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: AW: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
>
> BTW, if I remember correctly, we always had to co-chairs: YJ and me,
> Jenatte and Adama. And we had Parminder and Vittorio. Did Vittorio resign
> officially?
>
> wolfgang
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> Gesendet: Mo 14.04.2008 19:45
> An: 'Jeanette Hofmann'; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Betreff: RE: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
>
>
>
>
> > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,
> > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding
> > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and
> > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run
> > away. Amen.
>
> Hi Jeanette
>
> That's rather ungratifying a reason for keeping me a coordinator :). On
> the
> other hand, I can assure you I am nowhere close to running away. Parminder
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:08 PM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim
> > Cc: Milton L Mueller; Suresh Ramasubramanian
> > Subject: Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> >
> > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,
> > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding
> > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and
> > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run
> > away. Amen.
> >
> > McTim wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  > -----Original Message-----
> > >>  > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh at hserus.net]
> > >>  > disrespect to his CS credentials, or his excellent work in IT For
> > >>  Change,
> > >>  > he recuse himself from his role as coordinator, and coordination
> be
> > >>  taken
> > >>  > over by Bill Drake, Adam, Meryem, Jeanette Hoffman or some others
> on
> > >>  the
> > >>  > list.
> > >>
> > >>  I'm not sure whether this was a serious suggestion, but if so it is
> > >>  highly inappropriate for you to try to leverage minor quibbles over
> a
> > >>  workshop into a coup. Parminder is our elected coordinator and shall
> > >>  remain so until we have another election.
> > >
> > > Or a recall (according to the charter).
> > >
> > >
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