[governance] NTIA announcement on JPA

[Ian Peter]

John, we are confusing the IANA contract and JPA now. My comments applied to
JPA and I think if that is replaced or made redundant first, the IANA
details can follow peacefully and easily. 

I don’t think it is pointless at all - rather, I think it is totally
necessary these issues be addressed and I think they are central to IGF.

We seem to be able to run international telecommunications, air transport,
shipping, sport, and a number of other functions perfectly well without any
single government having specific unequal rights. If we can't find a way to
do this for the Internet, someone else will. Or it will be rendered
obsolete. 

As regards the root, there is no magic here - only trust and universal
support make the Verisign root authoritative. If that support erodes or
instead is placed elsewhere, IANA is a piece of history.

I have a spare PC which could be used for the authoritative root. I'll
donate it to ICANN, all we needs is a sensible international agreement to
respect ICANN's decisions here rather than subject root decisions to a
unilateral authorization process by a single rogue government.







> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Levine [mailto:icggov at johnlevine.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2008 03:09
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Cc: ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> Subject: Re: [governance] NTIA announcement on JPA
> 
> This all seems rather pointless to me.  The only people whose opinions
> about ICANN matter are the root server operators and the RIRs.
> 
> A short review of the roots will reveal that three of them, E, G, and
> H, are operated by agencies of the US government, two, B and D by
> universities with extensive government contracts, and two of them, A
> and J, by Verisign who for obvious reasons isn't going to do anything
> to gratuitously annoy the USG.  Could you tell us about your strategy
> to persuade them to do what you want what than what the USG wants?
> 
> ICANN does an adequate job of running IANA and the ccTLDs, with no
> political interference.  If any US administration were going to try to
> turn off .CU and .IR it would have been this one, but they didn't.
> 
> ICANN's bureaucratic constipation makes it unable to add any
> interesting new TLDs, but in the real world nobody cares, they all use
> either .COM or their local ccTLD and would do so even if they had a
> thousand funky new TLDs to choose from.
> 
> IANA does OK allocating /8's to the RIRs, and nobody's ever offered an
> alternative that wouldn't be much worse. (Recall grumblings a year or
> two ago from tiny countries that wanted all countries to get the same
> number of IP addresses.)
> 
> How could it possibly be to their benefit to side with a "rogue" ICANN
> vs the USG?  Get real.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> >Well here s a few thoughts to get the ball rolling
> >
> >1. Sign another parallel (for a short time) agreement with an
> international
> >body eg UN (maybe via IGF) for a similar oversight function
> >2. Relocate HQ to another country
> >3. Raise with its constituencies and actively promote an argument to be
> >declared an international organisation
> >4. Gradually and subtly transfer its powers to a related organisation
> that
> >is international and then gradually drop the old one.
> >5. Give some thought to the matter for a start
> >6. Believe that independence from USG oversight really is fundamental to
> >gaining international credibility and legitimacy
> >7. Believe that it is important to do something
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