[governance] Human rights and new gTLDs
Carlos Afonso
ca at rits.org.br
Wed Sep 26 13:26:54 EDT 2007
I dream of a day the Internet will be far more advanced and the current
paradigm of domain names will be just history (and not a nice one, as we
see from the unending debates and the monies involved). A dream hard to
become reality since the USA decided to create the market for domain
names -- and of course it quickly became the realm of a quasi-monopoly
which feeds the entity governing the logical infrastructure.
So we will have to find ways acceptable to all (or most -- how to
measure this?) to minimize the problems without violating basic
individual rights. A big, big challenge...
--c.a.
Karl Auerbach wrote:
> Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>
>> Milton, the position you are pushing is that anyone should be free to
>> get a domain such as ".abortion" (your example) or ".childpornography"
>> or dot-whatever-blasphemy, and if there are countries of the world
>> that are unhappy about that, they should censor these domains or break
>> out of the global Internet.
>
> I don't know for a fact that that is what Milton was suggesting.
>
> But it is certainly what I feel is not merely appropriate, it is necessary.
>
> We will destroy the internet if we reduce the internet to the thin
> residual that is left after removing every pieces that is offensive to
> someone, somewhere.
>
> Why shouldn't there be TLD for .abortion?
>
> Does one think that if we don't have a TLD that the abortions will go away?
>
> What about people who engage in extreme puppy fumping, are they to be
> denied the .puppyfumpers TLD because some bitty in Tomania (from
> Chaplin's movie the Great Dictator) gets his/her nose bent because they
> don't like the thought of puppies being fumped?
>
> If someone finds work on the Sabbath or on holy days offensive should we
> shut down the internet on those days?
>
> The idea that every conceivable burr and splinter has to be removed from
> the internet else people will not interact is an idea that is
> inconsistent with to the history of mankind and our oft demonstrated
> human capacity to reach across borders, languages, religions, and races.
>
> The idea that any body of internet governance should act as a modern day
> Torquemada or Savonarola is, to use an understating euphemism,
> discomforting.
>
> It is not that this has not been tried before - in 1515 the Lateran
> Council tried to require that all books obtain the approval of the
> Catholic church in Rome - De impressione liborum -
> http://www.piar.hu/councils/ecum18.htm - (Look for the phrase "On
> printing books" to find the relevant part.)
>
> It did not work. In fact a rather significant process of dissent was
> begun a mere two years later in Wittenberg Germany.
>
> Sure, we ought to remove barriers that serve no purpose. But we ought
> not to erect ICANN as the internet net nanny that suppresses expression
> because it feels that someone might be offended.
>
> The price of freedom of expression is a thickened skin.
>
> > Moreover, if there is half of the world that is offended by such a
> > visible reference to, say, abortion or blasphemies or whatever, I
> > think that you have to respect that.
>
> Respect yes, but change my behavior to fit norms to which I do not
> subscribe, no.
>
> There are large numbers of fundamental religious people out there, of
> many religions, who not merely disagree with my lifestyle - comfortable,
> California beach, liberal, progressive, humanistic, secular - who
> actually want to reach out and kill me as they did to so many of my
> fellow countryman a few years back in New York and Oklahoma City.
>
> I am not going to fit my life or expression into their strictures.
>
> It would be very improper indeed for a body of internet governance to
> empower such forces and opinions by giving them a lever to suppress the
> behavior of those who hold ideas contrary to their beliefs.
>
> Yet that is exactly the road that ICANN is taking - suppression or, to
> use the more blunt word, "censorship".
>
> And its not just suppression on the basis of a conflict of beliefs;
> ICANN has elevated the trademark industry to the level of a universal
> church and turned trademarks into words from on high that may not be
> uttered on the internet without the making of appropriate honorific
> noises. Even originators of ideas and words - for example "Nike" - are
> subordinated to ICANN's golden calf of trademark,
>
>
> As for the internet being a "major factor in democratizing many
> societies". I disagree. It is the desire and need of people who want
> to have a voice in the bodies that govern them that is the driving
> force. The communication afforded by the internet was merely a
> lubricant making organization easier. Telephones and televisions have
> arguably had a greater facilitating impact.
>
> It does seem that the internet can be as much as force of suppression as
> it is of promotion of democratic principles. For example, ICANN itself,
> the epitome of the internet based enterprise, retreated from democratic
> elections and replaced democratic processes with something substantially
> less.
>
>
>> Incidentally, I think that there are several other important issues
>> that are affected by ICANN's new gTLD process. For example, depending
>> on application fees and technical requirements, the developing world
>> might be deprived of the possibility of accessing this resource
>
> I quite agree with you.
>
>
> Not merely the developing world, pretty much anybody who does not have
> the resources to pass through ICANN's gauntlet of incumbent protective
> irrelevancies.
>
> ICANN is proposing to continue its process of choosing TLD operators on
> criteria, that were we choosing which airlines could fly, would be akin
> to evaluating whether they serve Coke or Pepsi during the flight and
> whether they publish the names and address of people who buy tickets
> rather than evaluating whether they have safe airplanes, safely
> maintained and operated.
>
> I have suggested a simple criteria for new TLDs -
> http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000324.html - that avoids all of
> that nonesense and substitutes an expensive, objective, fast procedure.
>
> --karl--
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