[governance] For you as an Internet user, what is a "Critical Internet resource"?

Ray Plzak plzak at arin.net
Fri Oct 5 11:05:45 EDT 2007


They why don't those who claim that the current policy fora are either non effective or non inclusive participate in them and encourage others to do so? How many of these persons are subscribed to the open policy discussion lists? Why don't they advocate from a capacity building perspective work toward enlarging the CS participation in the existing governance structures?

Ray

From: Hakikur Rahman [mailto:email at hakik.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:24 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Milton L Mueller; governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
Subject: RE: [governance] For you as an Internet user, what is a "Critical Internet resource"?

I will support Milton's arguments, and we should be active in policies and governance issues. In many countries, though understanding (I would not say that it is definition) about benefits of the Internet has made it critical, but my understanding is that due to lack of policies (in major aspects) and governance (never taken of), Internet couldn't reach the majority of the community.

Best regards,
Hakik

At 01:23 AM 10/4/2007, Milton L Mueller wrote:


Avri:
I would answer your question as follows:

We can either spend our time in Rio debating the _definition_ of CIR, or we can spend that time debating and discussing _the policies_ and the _governance arrangements_ applied to CIR. We cannot do both. There is not time to do both, and if we don't agree on what CIR is, we cannot have a productive discussion on policies and governance arrangements.

I have no doubt about which type of conversation would be more interesting and productive. We should be discussing the policies and gov arrangements. There are many fascinating issues there, and they are exactly the kind of issues the Forum is supposed to be taking up. The only reason to shift the discussion to definitions is to divert attention from a discussion of those policies and institutions currently involved in CIR.

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From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:23 PM
To: Internet Governance Caucus
Subject: Re: [governance] For you as an Internet user, what is a "Critical Internet resource"?

hi,

i do not understand why trying to define cIr is not a fine question itself and needs to defined as another question.   unless there is only one answer and not other answer is allowed.  but why would that be?

some people think there is a narrow definition for cIr and some people think there is a broad definition of cIr (i think we have ben here before).  is only the narrow definition valid?

if so, i do not understand it.

and if they aren't supposed to be critical to users, then who are they supposed to be critical too?

a.


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