From Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 10:52:17 2007 From: Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:52:17 -0800 Subject: [governance] web: UN meets Silicon Valley Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070301074811.045083e0@peoplewho.org> GAID meeting anecdotal report. These notes are anecdotal, my impressions and experiences and items that caught my attention. They are not comprehensive. http://www.peoplewho.org/documents/mountainview.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: From Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 14:34:07 2007 From: Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:34:07 -0800 Subject: [governance] 19 - 20 April 2007 Infopoverty world conference Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070301113251.0453fd20@peoplewho.org> ... social use of ICTs to implement the MDGs www.occam.org www.infopoverty.net ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Mar 3 06:00:00 2007 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_Kleinw=E4chter?=) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:00:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] Summer School Internet Governance References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070301113251.0453fd20@peoplewho.org> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A808D1BA@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Please feel free to distribute the call as wide as possible Thanks wolfgang EUROPEAN SUMMER SCHOOL ON INTERNET GOVERNANCE: INTERACTIVE LEARNING IN A MULTISTAKEHOLDER ENVIRONMENT Meissen, Germany, July 30 - August 4, 2007 Internet Governance was one of the most controversial issues in the process of the UN sponsored "World Summit on the Information Society" (WSIS). Based on a broad definition of Internet Governance the Tunis phase of WSIS decided in November 2005 to establish an Internet Governance Forum (IGF) for further discussion of the various dimensions of Internet Governance and to launch a process towards enhanced cooperation among involved institutions and organisations like ICANN, ITU and others. The issue of Internet Governance is rather new not only for economic activities, political debate and diplomatic negotiations but it is also new both for scientific research and academic education. The European Summer School on Internet Governance (EURO-SSIG) will help to promote the understanding of the different dimensions of Internet Governance as it was defined in the Final Report of the UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) in July 2005. It will bring together students from different stakeholder groups to support a practice oriented interactive learning in a multistakeholder environment. The first European Summer School on Internet Governance (EURO-SSIG) will take place in the Evangelian Academy of the former St. Afra Monastir in Meissen/Germany, from Monday, July 30 - Saturday, August 4, 2007. The EURO-SSIG offers 40 hours of lectures and seminars on the different aspects of Internet Governance by leading international experts. The programme covers lectures on the technical, political, legal, socio-economic and cultural dimension of Internet Governance as well as theories on global governance in the information age and multistakeholderism. Faculty members include Prof. Jonathan Zittrain from the Oxford Internet Institute (OII), Dr. David Souter from the London School of Economics (LSE), Dr. Jeanette Hofmann from the Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin and former WGIG Members Dr. Bill Drake and Jovan Kurbilja from the Geneva Institute for Higher International Studies (HEI), Avri Doria from Lulea Technology University (LTU) and Prof. Wolfgang Kleinwächter from the University of Aarhus who will chair the EURO-SSIG Faculty. Additionally to the lectures there will be evening round tables with leading professionals from government, private sector and civil society. EURO-SSIG is open both for students and academic staff members. There is a limited numbers of places for fellows from governmental agencies and the private sector. Fellows will get a signed certificate. The privileged participation fee - which includes accommodation (five nights), all meals, teaching material, the touristic program and the gala dinner - for students and academic staff members is 500.00 EUR (plus 19% VAT) per person. There are special tariffs for governmental and private sector representatives. Application forms can be found unter www.euro-ssig.eu. The dateline for applications is May, 15th, 2007. There is a limited number of fellowships for students which can be obtained on request and availability. The Summer School is organized by a consortium of European universities under the leadership of the Department of Media and Information Studies of the University of Aarhus in close cooperation with the "Global Internet Governance Academic Network" (GIGANET). It is supported by DENIC. Cooperation partners are UNESCO and the Diplo Foundation. To get more information contact the EURO-SSIG secretary Sandra Hoferichter under info at hoferichter.eu or go to the EURO-SSIG website http://www.euro-ssig.eu which provides also special information with regard to accommodation and transportation. Please feel free to distribute this call as wide as possible to whom it concerned. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 06:28:39 2007 From: ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com (l.d.misek-falkoff) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:28:39 -0500 Subject: [governance] Summer School Internet Governance In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A808D1BA@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070301113251.0453fd20@peoplewho.org> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A808D1BA@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <8cbfe7410703030328w75150ebfudff8a9658802ef5e@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for this very interesting post on the CourseL our waiting for a full description is well rewarded. I write to express my strong interest in participating. Best wishes, Linda. For I.D. here: The Communications Coordination Committee for the United Nations. The *Respectful Interfaces* Program. alternate email: linda at 2007ismy50thyearincomputingandIamawoman.com On 3/3/07, Wolfgang Kleinwächter < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote: > > Please feel free to distribute the call as wide as possible > > Thanks > > wolfgang > > EUROPEAN SUMMER SCHOOL ON INTERNET GOVERNANCE: > > INTERACTIVE LEARNING IN A MULTISTAKEHOLDER ENVIRONMENT > > > > Meissen, Germany, July 30 - August 4, 2007 > > > > Internet Governance was one of the most controversial issues in the > process of the UN sponsored "World Summit on the Information Society" > (WSIS). Based on a broad definition of Internet Governance the Tunis phase > of WSIS decided in November 2005 to establish an Internet Governance Forum > (IGF) for further discussion of the various dimensions of Internet > Governance and to launch a process towards enhanced cooperation among > involved institutions and organisations like ICANN, ITU and others. The > issue of Internet Governance is rather new not only for economic activities, > political debate and diplomatic negotiations but it is also new both for > scientific research and academic education. The European Summer School on > Internet Governance (EURO-SSIG) will help to promote the understanding of > the different dimensions of Internet Governance as it was defined in the > Final Report of the UN Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) in July > 2005. It will bring together students from different stakeholder groups to > support a practice oriented interactive learning in a multistakeholder > environment. > > > The first European Summer School on Internet Governance (EURO-SSIG) will > take place in the Evangelian Academy of the former St. Afra Monastir in > Meissen/Germany, from Monday, July 30 - Saturday, August 4, 2007. The > EURO-SSIG offers 40 hours of lectures and seminars on the different aspects > of Internet Governance by leading international experts. The programme > covers lectures on the technical, political, legal, socio-economic and > cultural dimension of Internet Governance as well as theories on global > governance in the information age and multistakeholderism. Faculty members > include Prof. Jonathan Zittrain from the Oxford Internet Institute (OII), > Dr. David Souter from the London School of Economics (LSE), Dr. Jeanette > Hofmann from the Wissenschaftszentrum Berlin and former WGIG Members Dr. > Bill Drake and Jovan Kurbilja from the Geneva Institute for Higher > International Studies (HEI), Avri Doria from Lulea Technology University > (LTU) and Prof. Wolfgang Kleinwächter from the University of Aarhus who will > chair the EURO-SSIG Faculty. Additionally to the lectures there will be > evening round tables with leading professionals from government, private > sector and civil society. > > > EURO-SSIG is open both for students and academic staff members. There is a > limited numbers of places for fellows from governmental agencies and the > private sector. Fellows will get a signed certificate. The privileged > participation fee - which includes accommodation (five nights), all meals, > teaching material, the touristic program and the gala dinner - for students > and academic staff members is 500.00 EUR (plus 19% VAT) per person. There > are special tariffs for governmental and private sector representatives. > > > Application forms can be found unter www.euro-ssig.eu. The dateline for > applications is May, 15th, 2007. There is a limited number of fellowships > for students which can be obtained on request and availability. > > The Summer School is organized by a consortium of European universities > under the leadership of the Department of Media and Information Studies of > the University of Aarhus in close cooperation with the "Global Internet > Governance Academic Network" (GIGANET). It is supported by DENIC. > Cooperation partners are UNESCO and the Diplo Foundation. > > > > To get more information contact the EURO-SSIG secretary Sandra Hoferichter > under info at hoferichter.eu or go to the > EURO-SSIG website http://www.euro-ssig.eu > which provides also special information with regard to accommodation > and transportation. > > > Please feel free to distribute this call as wide as possible to whom it > concerned. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: From Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 12:54:25 2007 From: Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 09:54:25 -0800 Subject: [governance] .pdf Personal Health Records Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070303095314.0452f678@peoplewho.org> A clear complete discussion of advantages and problems. Is there any IGF group tracking the electronic health record standards work? Sylvia http://www.nhpf.org/pdfs_ib/IB820_PHRs_11-30-06.pdf NATIONAL HEALTH POLICY FORUM FACILITATING DIALOGUE. FOSTERING UNDERSTANDING. Issue Brief – No. 820 November 30, 2006 Personal Health Records: The People’s Choice? Lisa Sprague, Senior Research Associate OVERVIEW — Information technology (IT), especially in the form of an electronic health record (EHR), is touted by many as a key component of meaningful improvement in health care delivery and outcomes. A personal health record (PHR) may be an element of an EHR or a stand-alone record. Proponents of PHRs see them as tools that will improve consumers’ ability to manage their care and will also enlist consumers as advocates for widespread health IT adoption. This issue brief explores what a PHR is, the extent of demand for it, issues that need to be resolved before such records can be expected to proliferate, and public-private efforts to promote them. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 21:58:29 2007 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:58:29 -0800 Subject: [governance] A Report on the Santa Clara Meeting of the Global Alliance for ICT4D Message-ID: <000001c75e09$07490110$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> Colleagues, I'm just now back from a meeting of the UN's Global Alliance for ICT for Development (GAID) www.un-gaid.org/ in Santa Clara California (Silicon Valley) http://www.un-gaid.org/santaclara . The meeting was billed as the "UN meets Silicon Valley" and was hosted (and chaired) by Intel and specifically by Craig Barrett the Chairman of the Board of Intel. I attended the meeting as a member of the GAID's "High-level Panel of Advisers" where I continue (despite several attempts at correction), to be identified as representing the Global Telecentre Alliance. The meeting was divided into two parts, a "business meeting" primarily for the GAID Strategy Council (the organization has a very top down decision making structure with a Steering Committee (who make the on-going business decisions) appointed by the UN Secretary General and in turn selecting a Strategy Council (who are responsible for the GAID's Business Plan/strategy)). The specific role for the Panel of Advisers is to "advise" the Steering Committee, while the Champion's Network is meant to be "a group of activists, experts and practitioners promoting development through the use of ICT. They echo and amplify at local, national and regional levels, the lessons learned and best practices identified through the work of the Alliance". Overall the GAID suffers from the same malady as its predecessors the DOTForce and the UN ICT Task Force which is, a more or less complete absence of any participation from those actually "doing" ICT4D on the ground in communities. My feeling is that the absence of such participation in a real and transparent governance structure by ICT4D practitioners and grassroots users is a very significant hindrance to the success of the GAID (as it was to the success of the DOTForce and the UN ICT Task Force) and I might add that it is not sufficient to have representation from those whose primary experience of such work is through funding, sponsoring or otherwise enabling these activities. There has been a significant reform in the approach to "development" in other sectors (as for example health or economic development) where there is a clear recognition that unless those most immediately and directly involved on the ground acquire "ownership" of the process and thus commitment to its success, then developmental processes however well planned, funded or implemented are almost certain to fail. That such a recognition has not as yet penetrated into the area of ICT4D at least in official circles remains a significant mystery to me. However, the re-formed GAID differs from the UN ICT Task Force in now having substantive participation from the private sector in the form of a significant commitment of time and talent from Intel and the evident intention (as per the Silicon Valley meeting) to attempt to tap the private sector and particularly it seems the Silicon Valley private sector even further as a source of resources and energy to propel the creation of an Alliance for ICT4D. The first day presented several initiatives with which the GAID is associated (they were for the most part initiatives which had a significant level of development in advance of the GAID), such as Telecentres 2.0 of Telecentres.org and which perhaps were looking to the GAID for increasing the breadth of their activities through UN branding and accessing a UN based network. A second (in GAID parlance "Flagship Partnership Initiative") is the World Bank's Broadband to Africa initiative, which equally has had a significant level of development outside of the GAID. The third as presented was what appeared to be a "new" development, that of a Cyber Development Corps which seems to be an extension of the Canadian Netcorps approach. Others appeared equally to be extensions of existing efforts in the area of e-Education (the GeCSI initiative of the UN ICT Task Force) and IBM's sponsored G3ICT access (for the disabled) undertaking. Perhaps more novel but even less clearly defined at this stage are a variety of initiatives for creating what are being called Communities of Expertise (CoE's), which to this stage are a variety of virtual networks (most still only in the development phase) in areas such as e-Learning, ICT enabled agriculture, gender and ICT and so on. How these will operate, what they will accomplish, how they will be funded (if at all) remains to be determined. The second day saw an attempt to link the activities of the GAID (to this point a more or less traditionally structured UN initiated body) with the energy and skills to be found in Silicon Valley. To achieve this a broad range of individuals and institutions were invited to "meet with the UN" and see what if any common ground could be found and whether there were areas of interest for collaboration and joint development. I think it is fair to say that this is still somewhat of a work in progress. Certainly there is interest and commitment on the part of Intel and the continuation of interest and involvement from those such as Microsoft and Cisco who have been involved in these areas for some time. I met several individuals (a female serial entrepreneur, a female College Dean, various Silicon Valley consultants) who were learning about these issues for the first time and seemed interested in learning more. How to move that interest forward into more practical activities and engagements was the subject of the closing workshops and plenary and while lacking in specifics there seemed to be an opening for some future developments. A few more general comments: There was a clear interest and recognition on the part of the participants--both UN and non-UN--of the requirement for ICT use at the grassroots as the basis for enabling effective economic and social development. This interest was focused on the role of telecentres as the means for accessing (and providing access to) the grassroots. However, there were virtually no ICT practitioners either from LDC's or domestic (to the US) in attendance. The issue of travel funding for "civil society" (and specifically for ICT practitioners) has been an issue which has been brought forward repeatedly in the context of the GAID with little or no response. A handful of "civil society" representatives from LDC's were evidently funded to participate but there was little apparent linkage between these participants and the larger practitioner ICT4D community. The governance structure of the GAID itself is closed and opaque and there was even mention by Sarbuland Khan, Executive Director that a minimum contribution of $50 K US would be required from all members of the Strategy Council (which notably includes almost no representation from ICT4D practitioners. It was mentioned several times in the course of the meeting that the GAID had no budget and no permanent (non-seconded) staff and didn't intend to get either. Such an approach will be interesting to observe. Certainly, if the hoped for participation from Silicon Valley materializes, there would be the means from this source for a contribution of $1 a year staffing and so on (for how long of course, would remain to be seen), but whether NGO's or even the UN itself will be able to participate for any period of time through voluntary contributions of time and resources is certainly a very large question mark. As well, what if anything could be accomplished in this way remains to be seen. Money isn't necessarily the answer to all development problems but the absence of money certainly means that a lot of possibly significant questions and actions (and substantive and valuable players) are going necessarily to stay off the table and out of that particular game. Those presenting also foreclosed one of the more suitable options for activity given the GAID's self-imposed constraints that is, it was several times mentioned that the GAID would NOT be concerned with "policy' but rather be "action" and "results" oriented. How this will be accomplished without staff or budget remains an open question. One very interesting (to my mind) development was the general acknowledgement by the GAID leadership of the absolute necessity of "civil society" participation for the GAID to achieve any meaningful results. The contradiction between this sentiment and the more or less complete exclusion of civil society from any meaningful participation in the governance structure of the GAID and the almost mandatory exclusion of active involvement by those from civil society doing real work on the ground given the above noted self-imposed constraints remains something which will, I think, become strikingly obvious in the fairly near future. That it hasn't as yet been pointed out is a symptom of the overall passivity with which civil society seems to have accepted the formulation and formation of the GAID structure and operations to date. It needs also, I think to be pointed out, that it is extremely easy for those from civil society (and elsewhere) without actual working experience or on-going involvement with ICT4D on the ground to be drawn into the soothing "talk talk" UN environment (such as was prevalent in Santa Clara) where lofty words substitute for effective action and where at the end of the day little is accomplished other than the production of yet another set of unreadable and unread reports. Steve Cisler in his report describes at some length the side tables in the meeting room groaning with heaping piles of (presumably remaindered) volumes produced by the UN ICT Task Force--many of which it might be observed include contributions by civil society notables. That the UN ICT Task Force accomplished little if anything over its five years is of course unmentioned and swept aside in the novelty of the GAID. It is a pity that no assessment of the Task Force has been undertaken, but on casual glance the stacks of multi-coloured documents beckoning another cohort of like-minded contributors is perhaps assessment enough. (As a closing note, it should also be observed that it is hard to see the rather more practical and results oriented folks from Silicon Valley staying around very long if, at the end of the day (or year), there isn't something more practical to show for their efforts than seemed to be emerging out of this meeting.) With best wishes to all, MG ------------------------------------ Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. gurstein at gmail.com Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 tel: +1-604-602-0624 fax: +1-604-602-0624 http://www.communityinformatics.net ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From hakik at sdnbd.org Sun Mar 4 00:24:37 2007 From: hakik at sdnbd.org (Hakikur Rahman) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:24:37 +0600 Subject: [governance] A Report on the Santa Clara Meeting of the Global Alliance for ICT4D In-Reply-To: <000001c75e09$07490110$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> References: <000001c75e09$07490110$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20070304110209.01bd7690@192.168.100.1> Dear Michael Gurstein, Thanks for an enlightened report I would rather say. I agree with you with a hundred percent about the participation of ICTD practitioners in this sort of events and what I have seen in my observations that in such events they have been missing. There were many events within the framework of WSIS, WSSD, DOTForce, UN ICT task Force and name them, however, poor representation from the grass roots ICTD practitioners made them a bit less ownership sense at the end, what I mean. The personalities who are working at the grass roots with hand on experiences and knowledge should be accommodated in these initiatives with whatever modification of action plan is needed. Unless, you have the real life experiences on the table (either, success or failure), it is always difficult to design, determine, align, re-align paths of ICT4D initiations, as this field is to me yet to be experimentally verified to give a perfect shape. They varies from continents, countries and even localities (withstanding laws, policies, economics, technologies, cultures, practices, etc. etc.). In good sense, I am glad to see the increased role of civil society representatives in GAID, but would encourage their active participation in forming action oriented programmes in LDCs, and incorporating effective achievements through current or previous (and future) programmes. In reality, ICTD practices are no more on the drawing board; many exist, many perished, and many waiting for realistic threshold. Best regards, Hakik Dr. Md. Hakikur Rahman Executive Director Sustainable Development Networking Foundation (SDNF) Bangladesh. web: www.sdnbd.org, www.hakik.org email: hakik at sdnbd.org, icms at bangla.net At 08:58 AM 3/4/2007, Michael Gurstein wrote: >Colleagues, > >I'm just now back from a meeting of the UN's Global Alliance for ICT for >Development (GAID) www.un-gaid.org/ in Santa Clara California (Silicon >Valley) http://www.un-gaid.org/santaclara . The meeting was billed as >the "UN meets Silicon Valley" and was hosted (and chaired) by Intel and >specifically by Craig Barrett the Chairman of the Board of Intel. > >I attended the meeting as a member of the GAID's "High-level Panel of >Advisers" where I continue (despite several attempts at correction), to >be identified as representing the Global Telecentre Alliance. > >The meeting was divided into two parts, a "business meeting" primarily >for the GAID Strategy Council (the organization has a very top down >decision making structure with a Steering Committee (who make the >on-going business decisions) appointed by the UN Secretary General and >in turn selecting a Strategy Council (who are responsible for the GAID's >Business Plan/strategy)). The specific role for the Panel of Advisers >is to "advise" the Steering Committee, while the Champion's Network is >meant to be "a group of activists, experts and practitioners promoting >development through the use of ICT. They echo and amplify at local, >national and regional levels, the lessons learned and best practices >identified through the work of the Alliance". > >Overall the GAID suffers from the same malady as its predecessors the >DOTForce and the UN ICT Task Force which is, a more or less complete >absence of any participation from those actually "doing" ICT4D on the >ground in communities. My feeling is that the absence of such >participation in a real and transparent governance structure by ICT4D >practitioners and grassroots users is a very significant hindrance to >the success of the GAID (as it was to the success of the DOTForce and >the UN ICT Task Force) and I might add that it is not sufficient to have >representation from those whose primary experience of such work is >through funding, sponsoring or otherwise enabling these activities. >There has been a significant reform in the approach to "development" in >other sectors (as for example health or economic development) where >there is a clear recognition that unless those most immediately and >directly involved on the ground acquire "ownership" of the process and >thus commitment to its success, then developmental processes however >well planned, funded or implemented are almost certain to fail. That >such a recognition has not as yet penetrated into the area of ICT4D at >least in official circles remains a significant mystery to me. > >However, the re-formed GAID differs from the UN ICT Task Force in now >having substantive participation from the private sector in the form of >a significant commitment of time and talent from Intel and the evident >intention (as per the Silicon Valley meeting) to attempt to tap the >private sector and particularly it seems the Silicon Valley private >sector even further as a source of resources and energy to propel the >creation of an Alliance for ICT4D. > >The first day presented several initiatives with which the GAID is >associated (they were for the most part initiatives which had a >significant level of development in advance of the GAID), such as >Telecentres 2.0 of Telecentres.org and which perhaps were looking to the >GAID for increasing the breadth of their activities through UN branding >and accessing a UN based network. A second (in GAID parlance "Flagship >Partnership Initiative") is the World Bank's Broadband to Africa >initiative, which equally has had a significant level of development >outside of the GAID. The third as presented was what appeared to be a >"new" development, that of a Cyber Development Corps which seems to be >an extension of the Canadian Netcorps approach. Others appeared >equally to be extensions of existing efforts in the area of e-Education >(the GeCSI initiative of the UN ICT Task Force) and IBM's sponsored >G3ICT access (for the disabled) undertaking. > >Perhaps more novel but even less clearly defined at this stage are a >variety of initiatives for creating what are being called Communities of >Expertise (CoE's), which to this stage are a variety of virtual networks >(most still only in the development phase) in areas such as e-Learning, >ICT enabled agriculture, gender and ICT and so on. How these will >operate, what they will accomplish, how they will be funded (if at all) >remains to be determined. > >The second day saw an attempt to link the activities of the GAID (to >this point a more or less traditionally structured UN initiated body) >with the energy and skills to be found in Silicon Valley. To achieve >this a broad range of individuals and institutions were invited to "meet >with the UN" and see what if any common ground could be found and >whether there were areas of interest for collaboration and joint >development. > >I think it is fair to say that this is still somewhat of a work in >progress. Certainly there is interest and commitment on the part of >Intel and the continuation of interest and involvement from those such >as Microsoft and Cisco who have been involved in these areas for some >time. I met several individuals (a female serial entrepreneur, a female >College Dean, various Silicon Valley consultants) who were learning >about these issues for the first time and seemed interested in learning >more. How to move that interest forward into more practical activities >and engagements was the subject of the closing workshops and plenary and >while lacking in specifics there seemed to be an opening for some future >developments. > >A few more general comments: > There was a clear interest and recognition on the part of the >participants--both UN and non-UN--of the requirement for ICT use at the >grassroots as the basis for enabling effective economic and social >development. This interest was focused on the role of telecentres as the >means for accessing (and providing access to) the grassroots. However, >there were virtually no ICT practitioners either from LDC's or domestic >(to the US) in attendance. The issue of travel funding for "civil >society" (and specifically for ICT practitioners) has been an issue >which has been brought forward repeatedly in the context of the GAID >with little or no response. A handful of "civil society" >representatives from LDC's were evidently funded to participate but >there was little apparent linkage between these participants and the >larger practitioner ICT4D community. > > The governance structure of the GAID itself is closed and opaque >and there was even mention by Sarbuland Khan, Executive Director that a >minimum contribution of $50 K US would be required from all members of >the Strategy Council (which notably includes almost no representation >from ICT4D practitioners. > > It was mentioned several times in the course of the meeting that >the GAID had no budget and no permanent (non-seconded) staff and didn't >intend to get either. Such an approach will be interesting to observe. >Certainly, if the hoped for participation from Silicon Valley >materializes, there would be the means from this source for a >contribution of $1 a year staffing and so on (for how long of course, >would remain to be seen), but whether NGO's or even the UN itself will >be able to participate for any period of time through voluntary >contributions of time and resources is certainly a very large question >mark. As well, what if anything could be accomplished in this way >remains to be seen. Money isn't necessarily the answer to all >development problems but the absence of money certainly means that a lot >of possibly significant questions and actions (and substantive and >valuable players) are going necessarily to stay off the table and out of >that particular game. > > Those presenting also foreclosed one of the more suitable >options for activity given the GAID's self-imposed constraints that is, >it was several times mentioned that the GAID would NOT be concerned with >"policy' but rather be "action" and "results" oriented. How this will >be accomplished without staff or budget remains an open question. > > One very interesting (to my mind) development was the general >acknowledgement by the GAID leadership of the absolute necessity of >"civil society" participation for the GAID to achieve any meaningful >results. The contradiction between this sentiment and the more or less >complete exclusion of civil society from any meaningful participation in >the governance structure of the GAID and the almost mandatory exclusion >of active involvement by those from civil society doing real work on the >ground given the above noted self-imposed constraints remains something >which will, I think, become strikingly obvious in the fairly near >future. That it hasn't as yet been pointed out is a symptom of the >overall passivity with which civil society seems to have accepted the >formulation and formation of the GAID structure and operations to date. > >It needs also, I think to be pointed out, that it is extremely easy for >those from civil society (and elsewhere) without actual working >experience or on-going involvement with ICT4D on the ground to be drawn >into the soothing "talk talk" UN environment (such as was prevalent in >Santa Clara) where lofty words substitute for effective action and where >at the end of the day little is accomplished other than the production >of yet another set of unreadable and unread reports. > >Steve Cisler in his report describes at some length the side tables in >the meeting room groaning with heaping piles of (presumably remaindered) >volumes produced by the UN ICT Task Force--many of which it might be >observed include contributions by civil society notables. That the UN >ICT Task Force accomplished little if anything over its five years is of >course unmentioned and swept aside in the novelty of the GAID. It is a >pity that no assessment of the Task Force has been undertaken, but on >casual glance the stacks of multi-coloured documents beckoning another >cohort of like-minded contributors is perhaps assessment enough. > >(As a closing note, it should also be observed that it is hard to see >the rather more practical and results oriented folks from Silicon Valley >staying around very long if, at the end of the day (or year), there >isn't something more practical to show for their efforts than seemed to >be emerging out of this meeting.) > >With best wishes to all, > >MG > >------------------------------------ >Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. >gurstein at gmail.com >Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training >Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 >tel: +1-604-602-0624 >fax: +1-604-602-0624 >http://www.communityinformatics.net > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 08:52:49 2007 From: ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com (l.d.misek-falkoff) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:52:49 -0500 Subject: [governance] .pdf Personal Health Records In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070303095314.0452f678@peoplewho.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070303095314.0452f678@peoplewho.org> Message-ID: <8cbfe7410703040552x6001f19dlf5dff5bd67841113@mail.gmail.com> You raise a good issue and a key one for all record-keeping especially electronically supported. Certainly health is an area of key interest for everyone, and implications of data integrity as well as access as well as privacy run across the board. In this area, what was called EMR - for Electronic Medical Rrecords (management) - if one who has worked in the field may throw in anecdotal comments, I believe an overhaul of the intake process will be key. We found that allowing and even requesting examining physicians and other personnel to code in their personal reactions to patients could help keep the "objective" portions more objective. Keep out (limit) judgmental adjectives, for instance, from physical exam reporting. Of course poor data processing controls could mix the subjective and objective and bring on even more serious problems than those possibly arising from personal feelings not textually encoded for "venting." A vital area. Thanks again. LDMF. Dr. Linda D. Misek-Falkoff. *Respectful Interfaces*; Communications Coordination Committee For The United Nations. On 3/3/07, Sylvia Caras wrote: > > A clear complete discussion of advantages and > problems. Is there any IGF group tracking the > electronic health record standards work? Sylvia > > http://www.nhpf.org/pdfs_ib/IB820_PHRs_11-30-06.pdf > > NATIONAL HEALTH POLICY FORUM FACILITATING DIALOGUE. FOSTERING > UNDERSTANDING. > Issue Brief – No. 820 > November 30, 2006 > Personal Health Records: > The People's Choice? > Lisa Sprague, Senior Research Associate > OVERVIEW — Information technology (IT), especially in the form of an > electronic health record (EHR), is touted by many as a key component of > meaningful improvement in health care delivery and outcomes. A personal > health record (PHR) may be an element of an EHR or a stand-alone record. > Proponents of PHRs see them as tools that will improve consumers' ability > to manage their care and will also enlist consumers as advocates for > widespread > health IT adoption. 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Name: message-footer.txt URL: From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:26:44 2007 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:26:44 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide Message-ID: <009e01c75e8a$adb88f80$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> -----Original Message----- From: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BBracey at aol.com Sent: March 4, 2007 10:03 AM To: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com; Thornburg-Center at googlegroups.com; nedavis at iastate.edu; resta at mail.utexas.edu; joycepittman51 at yahoo.com; mclaughb at nici-mc2.org; ray at rose-smith.com Subject: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide Associated Press 03.01.07, 10:20 AM ET http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html Officials from the United Nations met with Silicon Valley executives to discuss the "digital divide" - the growing gap between the world's wealthiest and most computer literate people and the impoverished masses without Internet access. Wednesday's meeting, organized by Intel Corp. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) and the U.N.'s Global Alliance for Information and Communications Technology and Development, was billed as the first between U.N. officials and technology executives and venture capitalists. More than 100 executives and officials from more than 30 countries attended the half-day conference. They brainstormed low-cost ways to get broadband Internet access to Africa, build computer centers throughout the developing world and encourage entrepreneurship. "Silicon Valley is the world capital of innovation, and we are counting on its contribution," said Sarbuland Khan, executive director of the U.N. technology alliance, founded last year. "In the information and communication field, the melding of markets and social responsibility is bringing to life new solutions to age-old problems like poverty, disease, hunger and illiteracy." Intel Chairman Craig Barrett said the Santa Clara-based semiconductor company was working with 60 governments in the developing world to bring low-cost financing of personal computers and high-speed Internet access to 1 billion people. The company is also working with education ministries in 40 countries to train 9 million teachers by 2011. "It's what the world needs and governments want for their citizens," Barrett said of the public-private partnership. "It's the right thing to do and makes business sense." http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Name: message-footer.txt URL: From ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:32:58 2007 From: ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com (l.d.misek-falkoff) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:32:58 -0500 Subject: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide In-Reply-To: <009e01c75e8a$adb88f80$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> References: <009e01c75e8a$adb88f80$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> Message-ID: <8cbfe7410703041032n58266485wb680fa476e16c35f@mail.gmail.com> Dear Michael and all: Yours and Sylvia's posts are very helpful. Much appreciated. Also there have been Committee convenings at the U.N. in New York. It will be helpful to gather the themes from all portals. Maybe we can pool comments. Sending best wishes, LDMF. Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff *Respectful Interfaces*; Communications Coordination Committee For The United Nations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And who else is?) is certainly "in the air." It would be interesting indeed to compare the different meetings as to emphasis; we can expect different patterns according to venues (one sometimes hear east and west coast of USA called "left and right" coasts) - and there have been post WSIS Committee events elsewhere as well - collectively they might be a good sampling of post-Geneva, Tunis, and even Athens WSIS-related events in addition to online convenings. I am interested in some of the same topics as you indicate and I know others are too and would welcome the conversation. For fun, but also a real thing, I have an alternative email address and am slowly working on a history: linda at 2007ismy50thyearincomputingandIamawoman.com I post this (above) not to weigh down your e-address book, but to indicate long standing interest in issues you discuss very eloquently. As I was at Geneva, Tunis, Athens, perhaps we can trade observations online or off.. Best wishes, LDMF. Dr. Linda D. Misek-Falkoff For I.D. here *Respectful Interfaces* The Communications Coordination Committee For the U.N. On 3/4/07, Ronda Hauben wrote: > > It would be good to know about the Committee convenings at the U.N. as I > have been covering the U.N. for OhmyNews lately. > > It seems the emphasis on commerical enterprises and private entities is a > bit of a diversion from the kind of focus that it would be more helpful to > see with regard to the following up on the Tunis WSIS events. Also I > recently saw the film Bamako which was helpful in showing how the focus on > privatization of the public systems in Africa has been a contributor to the > problems now being faced. > > As the Internet grew from a public and scientific origin and development, > it is seems important that that be recognized as what is needed to continue > the development and expansion. > > Also it seems that the Commission on Science and Technology for > Development (which is out of Geneva) is where the WSIS continuation > activities have been focused. > > I have been trying to learn what has been and is the follow up to WSIS. > Tunis was an important event. > > best wishes > > Ronda > > > > On 3/4/07, l.d.misek-falkoff wrote: > > > Dear Michael and all: > > > > Yours and Sylvia's posts are very helpful. Much appreciated. > > Also there have been Committee convenings at the U.N. in New York. > > It will be helpful to gather the themes from all portals. > > Maybe we can pool comments. > > > > Sending best wishes, LDMF. > > Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff > > *Respectful Interfaces*; > > Communications Coordination Committee For The United Nations. > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.cpsr.org > > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > > > For all list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > > > -- > Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet > > http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The purpose of the Santa Clara meeting was to improve first of all the relationship between governments and the private sector. This was the intention of the Motto "UN Meets Silicon Valley". Why not to consider a similar meeting where the relationship between governments and civil society is in the center? Why not to use one of the big civil society meetings in the next year to invite GAID to have a parallel meeting and to discuss the CS-GOV relationship, according to the points you have raised in your analysis? The biggest CS event is the annual World Social Forum, the alternative to the WEF in Davos. My proposal is that civil society starts to discuss a project which could be labeled "UN meets the World Social Forum" where a joint meeting between CS and GAID is organized in parallel with the January event in 2008. Best regards wolfgang ________________________________ Von: Michael Gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com] Gesendet: So 04.03.2007 19:26 An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; incom Betreff: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide -----Original Message----- From: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BBracey at aol.com Sent: March 4, 2007 10:03 AM To: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com; Thornburg-Center at googlegroups.com; nedavis at iastate.edu; resta at mail.utexas.edu; joycepittman51 at yahoo.com; mclaughb at nici-mc2.org; ray at rose-smith.com Subject: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide Associated Press 03.01.07, 10:20 AM ET http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html Officials from the United Nations met with Silicon Valley executives to discuss the "digital divide" - the growing gap between the world's wealthiest and most computer literate people and the impoverished masses without Internet access. Wednesday's meeting, organized by Intel Corp. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) and the U.N.'s Global Alliance for Information and Communications Technology and Development, was billed as the first between U.N. officials and technology executives and venture capitalists. More than 100 executives and officials from more than 30 countries attended the half-day conference. They brainstormed low-cost ways to get broadband Internet access to Africa, build computer centers throughout the developing world and encourage entrepreneurship. "Silicon Valley is the world capital of innovation, and we are counting on its contribution," said Sarbuland Khan, executive director of the U.N. technology alliance, founded last year. "In the information and communication field, the melding of markets and social responsibility is bringing to life new solutions to age-old problems like poverty, disease, hunger and illiteracy." Intel Chairman Craig Barrett said the Santa Clara-based semiconductor company was working with 60 governments in the developing world to bring low-cost financing of personal computers and high-speed Internet access to 1 billion people. The company is also working with education ministries in 40 countries to train 9 million teachers by 2011. "It's what the world needs and governments want for their citizens," Barrett said of the public-private partnership. "It's the right thing to do and makes business sense." http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Get started now. . __,_._,___ !DSPAM:2676,45eb0b0825683457818594! ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From ronda.netizen at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 15:47:53 2007 From: ronda.netizen at gmail.com (Ronda Hauben) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 15:47:53 -0500 Subject: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide In-Reply-To: <8cbfe7410703041210k6bfda4daybc81b4f7882d824e@mail.gmail.com> References: <009e01c75e8a$adb88f80$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> <8cbfe7410703041032n58266485wb680fa476e16c35f@mail.gmail.com> <8cbfe7410703041210k6bfda4daybc81b4f7882d824e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Linda, Michael, Sylvia and all others interested in what follow up is happening to the Tunis WSIS meeting. It was a thrill to go to WSIS in Tunis. I have been asking the various UN officials that I see at press conferences what follow-up there is to the WSIS events and it doesn't seem there is much knowledge about what is happening. I do at times hear about the U.N.'sGlobal Alliance for Information and Communications Technology and Development and have appeciated seeing Edoardo Bellano who recommended I see Sarbuland Khan. I did arrange an appointment with Sarbuland Khan but he had another obligation at the time so it didn't happen then. I should try again to reschedule it. But the narrow nature of the Global Alliance was a bit of a surprise. That it was so focused on the private sector seemed different from what I would have expected given the WSIS events, which included the private sector, but didn't put them in charge. I guess that was a bit of a naivite. In any case, I also would be happy to talk with anyone else interested in the continued nurturing and spread of the Internet and its participatory, interactive nature and the means that the UN is pursuing with regard to these developments. In WSIS I was part of a session of the "Past Present and Future of the Information Society" (an official side event of WSIS). We had a set of very interesting talks in that session. http://www.worldsci.net/tunis/program.htm#Hauben The papers and overheads are online if anyone is interested. 2.6 The Origin and Early Development of the Internet and of the Netizen: their Impact on Science and Society Session Chair: Ronda Hauben, Columbia University This session will focus on the history of the development of computer networks, the linking of these networks via the creation of the Internet, and the emergence of the active participants in these networks, the netizens (i.e.,net.citizens). Ronda Hauben (Columbia University) - *The International and Scientific Origins of the Internet and the Emergence of the Netizen * Jay Hauben (Columbia University Libraries, Columbia University) - *The Vision of JCR Licklider and the Libraries of the Future * Werner Zorn (Hasso-Plattner- Institute at the University of Potsdam, Germany) - *German-Chinese Collaboration in the First Stage of Open networking in China * Kilnam Chon (Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Department (EECS) Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST), Korea) - *The Development of Networking and the Internet in Korea and Asia: A History * Anders Ekeland (Economist, NIFU STEP - Centre for innovation research/Senter for innovasjonsforskning, Norway) - *Netizens and Protecting the Public Interest in the Development and Management of the Internet: An Economist's Perspective * At the session there was some discussion of how the Internet has been spread especially widely in South Korea and how netizens in South Korea are exploring how it can be helpful toward exploring how to extend democracy. It is interesting that the new Secretary General is from South Korea but as of yet there has been no sign that the lessons from South Korea's remarkable development of the Internet are being tapped as a means of extending the spread and impact of the Internet via UN encouragement. In any case, it would be good to discuss all this and to see if there is some way of collaborating toward the wonder of the Tunis event can be recognized and furthered. cheers Ronda On 3/4/07, l. d. misek-falkoff wrote: > > Hi Ronda and all, > > This is a bit of a tailored note, but perhaps some of the content will be > of general interest - therefore I retain the cc: on the message received. > Also because at Commission on Status of Women (men welcome!) at UN/NYC last > week I heard similar queries about topics other than ITC; a general question > about civil society participation especially viz. a viz. "private sector" > (are they both civil society? And who else is?) is certainly "in the air." > > It would be interesting indeed to compare the different meetings as to > emphasis; we can expect different patterns according to venues (one > sometimes hear east and west coast of USA called "left and right" coasts) - > and there have been post WSIS Committee events elsewhere as well - > collectively they might be a good sampling of post-Geneva, Tunis, and even > Athens WSIS-related events in addition to online convenings. > > I am interested in some of the same topics as you indicate and I know > others are too and would welcome the conversation. > > For fun, but also a real thing, I have an alternative email address and am > slowly working on a history: > linda at 2007ismy50thyearincomputingandIamawoman.com > > I post this (above) not to weigh down your e-address book, but to indicate > long standing interest in issues you discuss very eloquently. As I was at > Geneva, Tunis, Athens, perhaps we can trade observations online or off.. > > Best wishes, LDMF. > > Dr. Linda D. Misek-Falkoff > For I.D. here *Respectful Interfaces* > The Communications Coordination Committee For the U.N. > > On 3/4/07, Ronda Hauben wrote: > > > > It would be good to know about the Committee convenings at the U.N. as I > > have been covering the U.N. for OhmyNews lately. > > > > It seems the emphasis on commerical enterprises and private entities is > > a bit of a diversion from the kind of focus that it would be more helpful to > > see with regard to the following up on the Tunis WSIS events. Also I > > recently saw the film Bamako which was helpful in showing how the focus on > > privatization of the public systems in Africa has been a contributor to the > > problems now being faced. > > > > As the Internet grew from a public and scientific origin and > > development, it is seems important that that be recognized as what is needed > > to continue the development and expansion. > > > > Also it seems that the Commission on Science and Technology for > > Development (which is out of Geneva) is where the WSIS continuation > > activities have been focused. > > > > I have been trying to learn what has been and is the follow up to WSIS. > > Tunis was an important event. > > > > best wishes > > > > Ronda > > > > > > > > On 3/4/07, l.d.misek-falkoff < ldmisekfalkoff at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear Michael and all: > > > > > > Yours and Sylvia's posts are very helpful. Much appreciated. > > > Also there have been Committee convenings at the U.N. in New York. > > > It will be helpful to gather the themes from all portals. > > > Maybe we can pool comments. > > > > > > Sending best wishes, LDMF. > > > Dr. L. D. Misek-Falkoff > > > *Respectful Interfaces*; > > > Communications Coordination Committee For The United Nations. > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > > governance at lists.cpsr.org > > > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > > > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > > > > > For all list information and functions, see: > > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet > > > > http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook > > > -- Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 16:10:50 2007 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:10:50 -0800 Subject: [governance] RE: GAID In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A808D1C5@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <011201c75ea1$99962cd0$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> Thanks Wolfgang for your interesting observations and comments... I should be clear I guess... My concern is less with the specific involvement of civil society in the process. The GAID structure (fwiw) appears to include a tri-partite representation from civil society http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members . Rather my concern comes from precisely the top down structure and more particularly the absence of effective participation in the operation from those actually involved in ICT4D. This observation and "critique" I should say comes less from theoretical notions of what role civil society "should" play in these processes of governance and more in the quite empirical and pragmatic observation that ICT4D won't/can't work unless there is significant involvement in the design, implementation and development of the activities by those actually doing the job on the ground. Again from simple observation (and direct experience here in Canada and elsewhere) the only way to ensure that the lessons of what works and doesn't becomes part of the overall process is for specific measures to be taken to ensure that this happens. The best way I think, that this can be accomplished is by having some formal process of inclusion of practitioners (and activists) in the decision making structures. It should be noted, BTW, that this is in fact happening in a number of jurisdictions (for example India, Bangla Desh and Sri Lanka) where governments are currently undertaking major programs of support for community based ICT4D initiatives in considerable degree with practical and close cooperation with local NGO's who are (and have been) working in these areas on the ground for years (I mentioned this in my recent note to the Governance list referring to the workshop organized by Parminder, Anita and their colleagues at IT4Change). These latter and quite recent (in most instances post-WSIS) initiatives suggest some exciting possibilities for how a GAID might operate which I guess to some degree was the basis for my disappointment (and "critique") for how it was in fact operating. Having a meeting of the GAID with "civil society" as a parallel to the meeting with Silicon Valley would be, I agree, a very useful initiative but whether at the World Social Forum or in a context where for example some of those NGO's involved in the South Asian initiatives (and their counterparts in other parts of the world) would be more likely to be in attendance is something that I would like to see considered. Best, MG Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training gurstein at gmail.com Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 tel: +1-604-602-0624 fax: +1-604-602-0624 http://www.communityinformatics.net -----Original Message----- From: Wolfgang Kleinwächter [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] Sent: March 4, 2007 12:16 PM To: Michael Gurstein; governance at lists.cpsr.org; incom Cc: wsis at ngocongo.org Subject: GAID Dear Michael thanks for your cirtical analysis, in particular with regard to civil society involvment. I share most of your views.However, if you compare GAID with UNICTTF I cen see some (small) progress with regard to CS participation. My conclusion from the meeting is, that CS has indeed to rethink its role in this process and to offer also some innovative contributions to the work programme regardless of the UN type top down organisational arrangement you have critisized. The purpose of the Santa Clara meeting was to improve first of all the relationship between governments and the private sector. This was the intention of the Motto "UN Meets Silicon Valley". Why not to consider a similar meeting where the relationship between governments and civil society is in the center? Why not to use one of the big civil society meetings in the next year to invite GAID to have a parallel meeting and to discuss the CS-GOV relationship, according to the points you have raised in your analysis? The biggest CS event is the annual World Social Forum, the alternative to the WEF in Davos. My proposal is that civil society starts to discuss a project which could be labeled "UN meets the World Social Forum" where a joint meeting between CS and GAID is organized in parallel with the January event in 2008. Best regards wolfgang ________________________________ Von: Michael Gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com] Gesendet: So 04.03.2007 19:26 An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; incom Betreff: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide -----Original Message----- From: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BBracey at aol.com Sent: March 4, 2007 10:03 AM To: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com; Thornburg-Center at googlegroups.com; nedavis at iastate.edu; resta at mail.utexas.edu; joycepittman51 at yahoo.com; mclaughb at nici-mc2.org; ray at rose-smith.com Subject: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide Associated Press 03.01.07, 10:20 AM ET http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html Officials from the United Nations met with Silicon Valley executives to discuss the "digital divide" - the growing gap between the world's wealthiest and most computer literate people and the impoverished masses without Internet access. Wednesday's meeting, organized by Intel Corp. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) and the U.N.'s Global Alliance for Information and Communications Technology and Development, was billed as the first between U.N. officials and technology executives and venture capitalists. More than 100 executives and officials from more than 30 countries attended the half-day conference. They brainstormed low-cost ways to get broadband Internet access to Africa, build computer centers throughout the developing world and encourage entrepreneurship. "Silicon Valley is the world capital of innovation, and we are counting on its contribution," said Sarbuland Khan, executive director of the U.N. technology alliance, founded last year. "In the information and communication field, the melding of markets and social responsibility is bringing to life new solutions to age-old problems like poverty, disease, hunger and illiteracy." Intel Chairman Craig Barrett said the Santa Clara-based semiconductor company was working with 60 governments in the developing world to bring low-cost financing of personal computers and high-speed Internet access to 1 billion people. The company is also working with education ministries in 40 countries to train 9 million teachers by 2011. "It's what the world needs and governments want for their citizens," Barrett said of the public-private partnership. "It's the right thing to do and makes business sense." http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Get started now. . __,_._,___ !DSPAM:2676,45eb293925685457118908! ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From akigua at telia.com Sun Mar 4 17:22:17 2007 From: akigua at telia.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann-Kristin_H=E5kansson?=) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 23:22:17 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sv: [governance] RE: GAID Message-ID: <11180678.1173046937990.JavaMail.tomcat@pne-ps3-sn2> Dear Wolfgang and Michael, I would rather try "Silicon Vallley meets Civil Society". Civil Society has been meeting the UN during the whole WSIS process but we didn´t really meet the private sector. And it can still be at the World Social Forum. Regards, Ann-Kristin Indigenous ICT tf ----Ursprungligt meddelande---- Från: gurstein at gmail.com Datum: Mar 4, 2007 10:10:50 PM Till: 'Wolfgang Kleinwächter' , governance at lists.cpsr.org, 'incom' , gta at vancouvercommunity.net Kopia: wsis at ngocongo.org Ärende: [governance] RE: GAID Thanks Wolfgang for your interesting observations and comments... I should be clear I guess... My concern is less with the specific involvement of civil society in the process. The GAID structure (fwiw) appears to include a tri-partite representation from civil society http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members . Rather my concern comes from precisely the top down structure and more particularly the absence of effective participation in the operation from those actually involved in ICT4D. This observation and "critique" I should say comes less from theoretical notions of what role civil society "should" play in these processes of governance and more in the quite empirical and pragmatic observation that ICT4D won't/can't work unless there is significant involvement in the design, implementation and development of the activities by those actually doing the job on the ground. Again from simple observation (and direct experience here in Canada and elsewhere) the only way to ensure that the lessons of what works and doesn't becomes part of the overall process is for specific measures to be taken to ensure that this happens. The best way I think, that this can be accomplished is by having some formal process of inclusion of practitioners (and activists) in the decision making structures. It should be noted, BTW, that this is in fact happening in a number of jurisdictions (for example India, Bangla Desh and Sri Lanka) where governments are currently undertaking major programs of support for community based ICT4D initiatives in considerable degree with practical and close cooperation with local NGO's who are (and have been) working in these areas on the ground for years (I mentioned this in my recent note to the Governance list referring to the workshop organized by Parminder, Anita and their colleagues at IT4Change). These latter and quite recent (in most instances post-WSIS) initiatives suggest some exciting possibilities for how a GAID might operate which I guess to some degree was the basis for my disappointment (and "critique") for how it was in fact operating. Having a meeting of the GAID with "civil society" as a parallel to the meeting with Silicon Valley would be, I agree, a very useful initiative but whether at the World Social Forum or in a context where for example some of those NGO's involved in the South Asian initiatives (and their counterparts in other parts of the world) would be more likely to be in attendance is something that I would like to see considered. Best, MG Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training gurstein at gmail.com Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 tel: +1-604-602-0624 fax: +1-604-602-0624 http://www.communityinformatics.net -----Original Message----- From: Wolfgang Kleinwächter [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] Sent: March 4, 2007 12:16 PM To: Michael Gurstein; governance at lists.cpsr.org; incom Cc: wsis at ngocongo.org Subject: GAID Dear Michael thanks for your cirtical analysis, in particular with regard to civil society involvment. I share most of your views.However, if you compare GAID with UNICTTF I cen see some (small) progress with regard to CS participation. My conclusion from the meeting is, that CS has indeed to rethink its role in this process and to offer also some innovative contributions to the work programme regardless of the UN type top down organisational arrangement you have critisized. The purpose of the Santa Clara meeting was to improve first of all the relationship between governments and the private sector. This was the intention of the Motto "UN Meets Silicon Valley". Why not to consider a similar meeting where the relationship between governments and civil society is in the center? Why not to use one of the big civil society meetings in the next year to invite GAID to have a parallel meeting and to discuss the CS-GOV relationship, according to the points you have raised in your analysis? The biggest CS event is the annual World Social Forum, the alternative to the WEF in Davos. My proposal is that civil society starts to discuss a project which could be labeled "UN meets the World Social Forum" where a joint meeting between CS and GAID is organized in parallel with the January event in 2008. Best regards wolfgang ________________________________ Von: Michael Gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com] Gesendet: So 04.03.2007 19:26 An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; incom Betreff: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide -----Original Message----- From: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BBracey at aol. com Sent: March 4, 2007 10:03 AM To: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com; Thornburg-Center at googlegroups.com; nedavis at iastate.edu; resta at mail.utexas.edu; joycepittman51 at yahoo.com; mclaughb at nici-mc2. org; ray at rose-smith.com Subject: [TriumphOfContent] UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide UN Officials Discuss Digital Divide Associated Press 03.01.07, 10:20 AM ET http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html Officials from the United Nations met with Silicon Valley executives to discuss the "digital divide" - the growing gap between the world's wealthiest and most computer literate people and the impoverished masses without Internet access. Wednesday's meeting, organized by Intel Corp. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people ) and the U.N.'s Global Alliance for Information and Communications Technology and Development, was billed as the first between U.N. officials and technology executives and venture capitalists. More than 100 executives and officials from more than 30 countries attended the half-day conference. They brainstormed low-cost ways to get broadband Internet access to Africa, build computer centers throughout the developing world and encourage entrepreneurship. "Silicon Valley is the world capital of innovation, and we are counting on its contribution," said Sarbuland Khan, executive director of the U.N. technology alliance, founded last year. "In the information and communication field, the melding of markets and social responsibility is bringing to life new solutions to age-old problems like poverty, disease, hunger and illiteracy." Intel Chairman Craig Barrett said the Santa Clara-based semiconductor company was working with 60 governments in the developing world to bring low-cost financing of personal computers and high-speed Internet access to 1 billion people. The company is also working with education ministries in 40 countries to train 9 million teachers by 2011. "It's what the world needs and governments want for their citizens," Barrett said of the public-private partnership. "It's the right thing to do and makes business sense." http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/03/01/ap3475552.html ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Get started now. . __,_._,___ !DSPAM:2676,45eb293925685457118908! ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From gurstein at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 18:42:09 2007 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:42:09 -0800 Subject: [governance] FW: [TriumphOfContent] Seven Questions: Wiring the World's Poor Message-ID: <014d01c75eb6$e38324f0$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> -----Original Message----- From: TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com [mailto:TriumphOfContent at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BBracey at aol.com Sent: March 4, 2007 10:15 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: [TriumphOfContent] Seven Questions: Wiring the World's Poor http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3747 Posted February 2007 Most of the world's population, including the vast majority of the developing world, remains unwired. Everyone agrees on the need to bridge this digital divide, but there's hardly agreement on how to get the job done. Intel Corp. Chairman Craig Barrett has been at the center of the debate. In a recent conversation with FP, Barrett fired back at his critics and sounded off on the future of the Internet. Digital uniter: As head of the United Nations' Global Alliance for Information and Communication Technologies and Development, Intel's Barrett has been at the center of efforts to bring the Internet to the developing world. FOREIGN POLICY: Last month at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Nicholas Negroponte, the founder of One Laptop per Child, accused Intel and you personally of approaching Third World development from a market perspective. How do you respond? Craig Barrett: Well, I think that was only a characterization put forward by Mr. Negroponte. Let me provide some factual background, which may allow you to judge our actions on their merits. We've been involved in supporting education as a philanthropic activity since the company started, 38 years ago. We've put well over $1 billion dollars into supporting education in the last decade. We've trained over 4 million teachers around the world in the last five years, and we've committed to train another 10 million over the next five years. So, I took Negroponte's comment with a grain of salt. If there was anybody making a marketing comment in the room, I think perhaps it was Mr. Negroponte himself. FP: There's a school of thought that says, just give computers to children in poor countries and they will start a revolution. What's lost in that approach to technology and development? CB: What you potentially lose is: You spend a lot of money to give kids laptops that might be more intelligently spent on creating the infrastructure-training teachers and creating the environment for education. In all fairness, if you listen to Nick [Negroponte] and the constructionist approach to life, they take the attitude that most teachers in the emerging economies have a fourth- or sixth-grade education, that they're only competent to lead students in song and dance. And if you give kids computers, they will set up their own communities, their own content; they'll learn collectively. That is what drives Negroponte and the One Laptop per Child approach. That is not the unanimous position of educators around the world. It has not been the position of companies like Microsoft, Intel, and Cisco, who recognize that technology is just a tool, and who suggest that you need not only the tool, but the connectivity, the content, the teacher training to make it all work. FP: In many places where people talk about bridging the digital divide, there's still no electricity or access to clean drinking water. Why not spend money on bridging those basic services first? CB: We operate off of the philosophy that every child ought to have a generically equal opportunity. And you could argue that means every child should have clean drinking water, three square meals a day, and a roof to sleep under. And there are lots and lots of people working on clean drinking water. We also think that if you give the kids in the Third World clean drinking water, food, something to sleep under, they also need to be able to have a productive adult life. They're going to need to earn a living, and they need some education. So our focus has been on education, because we look around and we see lots of people working on those other topics. FP: Fifty years from now, will we look back and see the Internet as the most transformative technology in a place like Africa, or will it be something more mundane, maybe the cell phone? CB: Voice communication, cell phones, and some of the light digital stuff are important. No question about it. And I think most people recognize that the information access you get with a small-screen cell phone is kind of limited and, therefore, you need a bigger screen. That kind of implies PCs and the Internet. But at least they'll tend to go in tandem. It's not one or the other. The argument over whether the cell phone dominates or the PC dominates has been going on in the developed world for the last 15 or 20 years. In reality, we've found that ours is a society of three screen sizes. There's your small screen-BlackBerry or cell phone. There's your interactive screen-that's your PC. And there's your couch potato screen-your TV. Those three will coexist in the developing world just as they coexist in the developed world. FP: How will the next 1 billion Internet users, most of whom will be from China and India, change the focus of companies such as Intel in terms of research and development and other priorities? CB: Well, you start to look at the design of the technology with their environment in mind. You don't design PCs like [the one] I'm sitting in front of at my desktop right now. They have to be dustproof. They run off batteries. They have to be inexpensive. There are lots of different aspects you have when you start to worry about product design and creation. There's some good points to this, from the local level, too. Because it's not just the outsider company coming in to sell stuff to the Third World. PCs can be assembled and made by local entrepreneurs. Secondly, the content is important. Typically, content is created locally; it's not created by an outside third party. So it creates economic opportunity in the delivery as well as economic development in the use. FP: Are Web 2.0 applications such as YouTube and MySpace the revolution that the media makes them out to be? CB: I think there's a huge excitement about Second Life and MySpace, and what I call reality software. It's kind of aligned with reality TV as we see it today. I think it remains to be seen whether there is a place for reality software in the enterprise, or whether it just stays as a form of entertainment. You know, I'm not sure that the majority of the world is going to want to spend four hours a day in another space because they don't like the space they're living in physically. We have to see if there are enterprise applications that can use that [technology] to see whether it's just a fad today like Survivor, Lost, or The Apprentice are on television. FP: What will Intel look like 50 or 100 years from now? CB: Anybody who makes any projection [about] what their company's going to look like in 100 years has to be crazy. Ten years ago the Internet was essentially nothing. Today it's kind of everything in our industry. So in the space of a decade everything can change. If you ask me what our company looks like in a decade, I think it's still somewhat similar to what it is today-producing computing solutions. We're still following Moore's Law, so we're still a happy inflationary industry, providing more for less; so I don't see it changing too much in 10 years. But don't ask me to say what it's going to look like in 50 or 100 years. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Yahoo! Groups Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! 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Name: message-footer.txt URL: From wsis at ngocongo.org Mon Mar 5 10:58:52 2007 From: wsis at ngocongo.org (CONGO WSIS - Philippe Dam) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:58:52 +0100 Subject: [governance] GAID African Network meeting - 23 March 2007 - 14:00-18:00 - Addis Ababa (UN ECA HQ) Message-ID: <200703051558.l25FwIsG008935@smtp2.infomaniak.ch> Dear all, This is to inform you that the UN Economic Commission for Africa will convene the 1st meeting of the African Regional Network of GAID (UN Global Alliance for ICTs and Development) on Friday 23 March 2007 (14:00-18:00). More information, including the agenda and the precise participation modalities, will be circulated soon, but please circulate this information to whoever would be interested. Note that this GAID African Network meeting will take place in timely conjunction with the African Civil Society Forum organised by CONGO and FEMNET on 22-24 March 2007 in Addis. An important component of this AfCSF will be devoted to ICT4D. For more information on the programme and the registration modalities of this Forum, check on the CONGO website: http://www.ngocongo.org/index.php?what=resources &id=10376. Programme: http://www.ngocongo.org/index.php?what=resources &id=10376&start=1 Registration Form: http://www.ngocongo.org/index.php?what=doc &id=1016 Registration was open until 15 February, but we will of course continue to receive and process registration in the up coming days. Feel free to come back to us for any further information regarding the African Civil Society Forum. All the best, Philippe Philippe Dam CONGO - WSIS CS Secretariat 11, Avenue de la Paix CH-1202 Geneva Tel: +41 22 301 1000 Fax: +41 22 301 2000 E-mail: wsis at ngocongo.org Website: www.ngocongo.org The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, membership association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United Nations debates and decisions. 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MG -----Original Message----- From: bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frederick "FN" Noronha Sent: March 4, 2007 7:52 PM To: bytesforall_readers at yahoogroups.com Subject: [bytesforall_readers] UN warning to Silicon Valley over digital rift http://www.ft.com/cms/s/799c1c54-c851-11db-9a5e-000b5df10621.html UN warning to Silicon Valley over digital rift By Richard Waters in San Francisco Published: March 2 2007 00:27 | Last updated: March 2 2007 00:27 Silicon Valley has been slow to develop technology and business approaches specifically suited to customers in the emerging world, according to representatives at a UN-sponsored gathering in the US technology heartland this week. As a result, it risks missing out on one of the next big potential markets for its products, while also leaving a widening "digital divide" that is seeing the growing ranks of broadband users in the developed world leap even further ahead. The warnings surfaced during a UN-backed meeting that brought officials from many developing countries to the valley this week to try to develop more systematic approaches from the many piecemeal experiments under way to boost the spread of information and communication technologies. For some of the valley's biggest companies, which have long viewed this as an area for non-profit activity, the effort reflects a new business focus on the emerging world. "We have around a billion users today - what we're all interested in is where the next billion users are going to come from," said Craig Barrett, chairman of Intel and head of the UN-backed committee leading the effort. However, the valley's focus on creating technology for the developed world, then trying to adapt it to poorer countries, has left it ill-suited to addressing the real technology needs of these countries, according to several observers. "There is a bit of a challenge for Silicon Valley," said Farrukh Qayyum, Pakistan's IT and telecommunications minister. "While it is true that mature markets need new products, there is really a need to look at the needs of people who could be customers in the developing world." Thomas McCoy, chief administrative officer of AMD chipmaker, added: "The capability of Silicon Valley has yet to be fully deployed in focusing on the innovation that is required in those huge markets. We can't just build a Mercedes and then try to simplify it." IT companies needed to learn from the experience of the mobile communications industry, which now has more than 2bn users and has been far more successful at reaching emerging market users, according to several people at the event. The mobile industry "meets a basic need, which is communication", said Mr Barrett. For IT companies, technology adoption would take longer because its usefulness rested partly on the availability of local content on the internet and education to help people use the network, he added. Others, however, said more work needed to be done to identify the basic needs of potential customers before the valley could adapt its technology and business approaches to developing markets. "We don't know what they need - we don't have the intelligence about what poor farmers in Africa want," said Mr McCoy. Without a clearer agreement on the most immediate needs that their technology is addressing, the big technology companies and development officials risked failing to agree on how to proceed, added Mary Smaragdis, director of the charitable foundation set up by Sun Microsystems. "I don't see a lot of alignment" among participants at this week's meeting, she said. "We're all taking on this problem through our own filter." In a sign of Silicon Valley's slowness to address the emerging world's technology needs more directly, one of the highest-profile efforts to make computing more affordable, the One Laptop Per Child initiative, was led by Nicholas Negroponte of Massachusetts Institute of Technology. None of the main companies behind the push is from the valley. Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007 -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/C7EolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ !DSPAM:2676,45eb93cf25688465512856! ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From sylvia.caras at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 14:09:46 2007 From: sylvia.caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:09:46 -0800 Subject: [governance] RE: GAID In-Reply-To: <11180678.1173046937990.JavaMail.tomcat@pne-ps3-sn2> References: <11180678.1173046937990.JavaMail.tomcat@pne-ps3-sn2> Message-ID: I think Ann-Kristin's idea is the direction I would also suggest, that civil society partner with business/Silicon Valley. My own sense is that global business interests are trumping States as actors and that GAID is a recognition of that 'multi-stakeholder' restructuring, as well as a cost-shifting attempt. Michael, I'm sorry we didn't get to talk when we were both in the same place. Sylvia ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From gurstein at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 15:19:28 2007 From: gurstein at gmail.com (Michael Gurstein) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:19:28 -0800 Subject: [governance] RE: GAID In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00cf01c7602c$be4a0ce0$6400a8c0@michael78xnoln> Hi Sylvia and all, I agree that Ann-Kristin's suggestion of partnering between CS and Silicon Valley is a good one although I would want to ensure that the partnering was done in such a way that it allowed for effective participation by and resourcing of the grassroots and community based practitioners--in that way, I think the benefits from such partnering would be most likely to flow in both directions. Before there can be useful partnering at the grassroots level there is I think, a lot of preliminary work that would need to be done in finding mutually agreeable strategies, a common language, mutually respectful working and decision making practices and so on. Not a lot of that currently exists but these are necessary pre-conditions for effective working relationships (and have been largely absent from ICT4D initiatives to this point... Most appropriately the development of working relationships would be seen as emergent and iterative processes with appropriate assessment, feedback and jointly agreed upon frameworks for planning and implementation. Areas where I could see partnering and piloting between ICT4D practiioners and silicon valley folks quite immediately and practically would be in: * user based (including gender and assistive sensitive) applications design for bottom up processes (Intel is doing that right now); * software (linguistic) localization (as MS and Linux/Ubuntu are currently doing); * strategy development for joint field testing of community based applications, training programs, implmentations etc.; * the design of collaborative user (community) based evaluation/assessment systems for applications and implementations (some discussion going on in India); * the joint development of organizational processes and structures for system and application scaling-up; * the development of strategies for responding to linguistic, cultural, geographical diversity/complexity in widely dispersed system applications; and so on. There are enormous challenges (and opportunities) in responding to the complexity, variety and sheer scale of dispersed but integrated bottom-up applications. It is these challenges (and opportunities) that are likely to drive the next round of system and applications development, certainly in LDC's but also I suspect in the OECD's as well, and it was the sensing of these openings that I think underlies Intel (and other)'s interest and the interest of those other folks in Silicon Valley who came along to the GAID meeting. There has been a lot of discussion of the "bottom of the pyramid" hypothesis but I think that it is pretty well now accepted (as someone articulated at the GAID meeting) that Prahalad's approach of focussing on the grassroots simply as "markets" doesn't work. Rather the potential is there if (and oly if) the right kind of products, systems, applications, training, implementation strategies and so on can be developed that make sense and are useful for the next billion or two potential ICT users. (I'm also sorry I didn't have a chance to meet up with you and other of the CS folks attending particularly those attending only the second day... Best to all, MG Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. gurstein at gmail.com Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 tel: +1-604-602-0624 fax: +1-604-602-0624 http://www.communityinformatics.net -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Caras [mailto:sylvia.caras at gmail.com] Sent: March 5, 2007 11:10 AM To: governance at lists.cpsr.org Subject: Re: [governance] RE: GAID I think Ann-Kristin's idea is the direction I would also suggest, that civil society partner with business/Silicon Valley. My own sense is that global business interests are trumping States as actors and that GAID is a recognition of that 'multi-stakeholder' restructuring, as well as a cost-shifting attempt. Michael, I'm sorry we didn't get to talk when we were both in the same place. Sylvia ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance !DSPAM:2676,45ec6b54256857685206 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: From Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 13:25:26 2007 From: Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:25:26 -0800 Subject: [governance] article: governments and ICT standards Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070307102422.045e7ea0@peoplewho.org> THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN ICT STANDARDIZATION http://www.consortiuminfo.org/bulletins/feb07.php#feature ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From nb at bollow.ch Wed Mar 7 16:43:16 2007 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:43:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: [governance] article: governments and ICT standards In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20070307102422.045e7ea0@peoplewho.org> (message from Sylvia Caras on Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:25:26 -0800) References: <7.0.1.0.2.20070307102422.045e7ea0@peoplewho.org> Message-ID: <20070307214317.034C75A286@quill.bollow.ch> Sylvia Caras wrote: > THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN ICT STANDARDIZATION > > http://www.consortiuminfo.org/bulletins/feb07.php#feature The editorial, titled "ICT, accessibility and self-regulation" is also very relevant to the IGF process. http://www.consortiuminfo.org/bulletins/feb07.php#editorial Greetings, Norbert. -- Norbert Bollow http://Norbert.ch President of the Swiss Internet User Group SIUG http://SIUG.ch ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From dogwallah at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 08:12:40 2007 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:12:40 +0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [dns-wg] ICANN Successfully Conducts Laboratory Tests of Internationalised Domain Names In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: from a dns-wg list: Anyone interested in the deployment of IDNs might be interested yesterday's announcement of the successful conclusion of laboratory tests of internationalised TLDs in a setting corresponding to the public root. The announcement, details of the test setup and results can be found at: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-4-07mar07.htm -- Cheers, McTim $ whois -h whois.afrinic.net mctim ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From bortzmeyer at internatif.org Thu Mar 8 08:40:54 2007 From: bortzmeyer at internatif.org (Stephane Bortzmeyer) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:40:54 +0100 Subject: [governance] Re: ICANN Successfully Conducts Laboratory Tests of Internationalised Domain Names In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> > Anyone interested in the deployment of IDNs might be interested > yesterday's announcement of the successful conclusion of laboratory > tests of internationalised TLDs in a setting corresponding to the > public root. No, it is completely useless. Since a Punycode name is a regular domain name, there was nothing to test and the authors of the different documents have some merit to be able to produce even these few pages. As the report says: > No impact at all could be detected. All involved systems behaved > exactly as expected. A lot of ICANN's money spent on that. Autonomica can thank them. (Of course, ICANN's primary motive was probably more to procrastinate about IDN.) ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From akigua at telia.com Thu Mar 8 11:30:56 2007 From: akigua at telia.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ann-Kristin_H=E5kansson?=) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:30:56 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sv: RE: [governance] RE: GAID Message-ID: <15796402.1173371456491.JavaMail.tomcat@pne-ps4-sn2> Dear Michael, I think some of your dots (I don´t really like bullits) are interesting to develop further. Ann-Kristin----Ursprungligt meddelande----Från: gurstein at gmail.comDatum: Mar 6, 2007 9:19:28 PMTill: governance at lists.cpsr.org, gta at vancouvercommunity.net, sylvia.caras at gmail.com, wsis at ngocongo.orgÄrende: RE: [governance] RE: GAID Hi Sylvia and all, I agree that Ann-Kristin's suggestion of partnering between CS and Silicon Valley is a good one although I would want to ensure that the partnering was done in such a way that it allowed for effective participation by and resourcing of the grassroots and community based practitioners--in that way, I think the benefits from such partnering would be most likely to flow in both directions. Before there can be useful partnering at the grassroots level there is I think, a lot of preliminary work that would need to be done in finding mutually agreeable strategies, a common language, mutually respectful working and decision making practices and so on. Not a lot of that currently exists but these are necessary pre-conditions for effective working relationships (and have been largely absent from ICT4D initiatives to this point... Most appropriately the development of working relationships would be seen as emergent and iterative processes with appropriate assessment, feedback and jointly agreed upon frameworks for planning and implementation. Areas where I could see partnering and piloting between ICT4D practiioners and silicon valley folks quite immediately and practically would be in: user based (including gender and assistive sensitive) applications design for bottom up processes (Intel is doing that right now); software (linguistic) localization (as MS and Linux/Ubuntu are currently doing); strategy development for joint field testing of community based applications, training programs, implmentations etc.; the design of collaborative user (community) based evaluation/assessment systems for applications and implementations (some discussion going on in India); the joint development of organizational processes and structures for system and application scaling-up; the development of strategies for responding to linguistic, cultural, geographical diversity/complexity in widely dispersed system applications; and so on. There are enormous challenges (and opportunities) in responding to the complexity, variety and sheer scale of dispersed but integrated bottom-up applications. It is these challenges (and opportunities) that are likely to drive the next round of system and applications development, certainly in LDC's but also I suspect in the OECD's as well, and it was the sensing of these openings that I think underlies Intel (and other)'s interest and the interest of those other folks in Silicon Valley who came along to the GAID meeting. There has been a lot of discussion of the "bottom of the pyramid" hypothesis but I think that it is pretty well now accepted (as someone articulated at the GAID meeting) that Prahalad's approach of focussing on the grassroots simply as "markets" doesn't work. Rather the potential is there if (and oly if) the right kind of products, systems, applications, training, implementation strategies and so on can be developed that make sense and are useful for the next billion or two potential ICT users. (I'm also sorry I didn't have a chance to meet up with you and other of the CS folks attending particularly those attending only the second day... Best to all, MG Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. gurstein at gmail.com Centre for Community Informatics Research, Development and Training Vancouver, BC CANADA v6z 2s1 tel: +1-604-602-0624 fax: +1-604-602-0624 http://www.communityinformatics.net -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Caras [mailto:sylvia.caras at gmail.com] Sent: March 5, 2007 11:10 AM To: governance at lists.cpsr.org Subject: Re: [governance] RE: GAID I think Ann-Kristin's idea is the direction I would also suggest, that civil society partner with business/Silicon Valley. My own sense is that global business interests are trumping States as actors and that GAID is a recognition of that 'multi-stakeholder' restructuring, as well as a cost-shifting attempt. Michael, I'm sorry we didn't get to talk when we were both in the same place. Sylvia ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance !DSPAM:2676,45ec6b54256857685206 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: From karl at cavebear.com Thu Mar 8 13:43:24 2007 From: karl at cavebear.com (Karl Auerbach) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:43:24 -0800 Subject: [governance] Re: ICANN Successfully Conducts Laboratory Tests of Internationalised Domain Names In-Reply-To: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> References: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> Message-ID: <45F0594C.5050900@cavebear.com> Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> Anyone interested in the deployment of IDNs might be interested >> yesterday's announcement of the successful conclusion of laboratory >> tests of internationalised TLDs in a setting corresponding to the >> public root. > > No, it is completely useless. Since a Punycode name is a regular > domain name, there was nothing to test... A rather more useful work is to be found in a recent internet draft - DNS Referral Response Size Issues - http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07.txt The reason that response size is important is that DNS responses will tend to become larger with the introduction of IDN names, which will probably tend to be longer than the current average name. And because DNS uses UDP for efficiency and also because DNS has an ancient and obsolete 512 byte size limit, this size increase could cause a multiplication of DNS traffic. I raised this issue in ICANN years ago, and was ignored. It is good that Paul V. is once again doing the right thing (previously he did anycast of the F root) despite stasis on the part of the body that one would think had been invested with the responsibility. What this means in terms of internet governance is that we ought to construct structures that can be bypassed so that when they become technically static that good people can go ahead and fix the situation. Yes, this risks fragmentation of the internet, but to my mind the net will follow the good ideas as long as governance constraints are limited. --karl-- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From bortzmeyer at internatif.org Thu Mar 8 16:35:12 2007 From: bortzmeyer at internatif.org (Stephane Bortzmeyer) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:35:12 +0100 Subject: [governance] Re: ICANN Successfully Conducts Laboratory Tests of Internationalised Domain Names In-Reply-To: <45F0594C.5050900@cavebear.com> References: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> <45F0594C.5050900@cavebear.com> Message-ID: <20070308213512.GA13382@sources.org> On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:43:24AM -0800, Karl Auerbach wrote a message of 40 lines which said: > The reason that response size is important is that DNS responses > will tend to become larger with the introduction of IDN names, which > will probably tend to be longer than the current average name. Same thing with DNSSEC, IPv6, SRV records... Every new technology increases the average size of the DNS packets. > And because DNS uses UDP for efficiency and also because DNS has an > ancient and obsolete 512 byte size limit, This limit was lifted EIGHT years ago in RFC 2671 (widely implemented, for instance in BIND, for many versions). ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From bortzmeyer at internatif.org Thu Mar 8 16:52:02 2007 From: bortzmeyer at internatif.org (Stephane Bortzmeyer) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:52:02 +0100 Subject: [governance] DNS Attack Factsheet Message-ID: <20070308215202.GC15130@sources.org> Do note that it is published under a free licence. And the text is very good, a bit "pro domo" but clear and with very few mistakes. ICANN was right in hiring a professionnal :-) http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-08mar07.htm ICANN has today released a factsheet concerning the recent attack on the root server system on 6 February 2006. The factsheet is intended to provide an explanation of the attack for a non-technical audience in the hope of enlarging public understanding surrounding this and related issues. Aside from covering the attack itself and the engineers' response to it, the factsheet also briefly reviews the root server system, the domain name system, Anycast technology, and what can be done in order to deal with such attacks in future. It is hoped that the factsheet will be the first in a series, with ICANN's general manager of public participation, Kieren McCarthy, acting as series editor. Future factsheets hope to follow a similar approach of providing clear and topical non-technical information about various aspects of the Internet in which ICANN is involved. We welcome whatever feedback the community may have, plus suggestions for future factsheets. Please post any comments you have on the related blog post. This factsheet is released under a Creative Commons licence. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From subbiah at i-dns.net Thu Mar 8 20:00:54 2007 From: subbiah at i-dns.net (subbiah) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:00:54 -0800 Subject: [governance] Re: ICANN Successfully Conducts Laboratory Tests of Internationalised Domain Names In-Reply-To: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> References: <20070308134054.GA17307@nic.fr> Message-ID: <45F0B1C6.6040003@i-dns.net> I can't believe I am actually agreeing with Stephane on this one, (1) IDN as used today, was originally conceived by the Singapore team back in 1997/8 precisely so that the labels on the wire will all be effectively in ascii. Therefore by design they were not expected to cause any problems inherent in the non-English script themselves. That was the whole point. So its no surprise it works. While not in my mind totally useless as Stephane states, the current tests would never (:-)) have failed. (2) The ICANN test just announced was not in the full root but rather a lab-like, more limited environment. Similar tests were successfully conducted back in the year-long Asian testbed in 1998/9 by APNG. (3) As for a real-life test in large numbers on a large fraction of net users, while ICANN prepares to do one, a very close cousin has been ongoing in real commercial-life for 3 or more years in China involving over a 100M end-users and many tens of thousands of issued names, in the case of the Chinese script (which is about different as a script as you can imagine from ASCII, not that it matters from a puny code point of view). Similar efforts in other scripts but in smaller size are also ongoing for a number of years in a number of other countries/scripts, for example the Arab League sponsored (22 Arabic country Arabic script effort) with the participation of the monopoly national ISPs of several Arabic countries. Cheers Subbiah Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >>Anyone interested in the deployment of IDNs might be interested >>yesterday's announcement of the successful conclusion of laboratory >>tests of internationalised TLDs in a setting corresponding to the >>public root. >> >> > >No, it is completely useless. Since a Punycode name is a regular >domain name, there was nothing to test and the authors of the >different documents have some merit to be able to produce even these >few pages. > >As the report says: > > > >> No impact at all could be detected. All involved systems behaved >> exactly as expected. >> >> > >A lot of ICANN's money spent on that. Autonomica can thank them. (Of >course, ICANN's primary motive was probably more to procrastinate >about IDN.) >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 12:46:43 2007 From: Sylvia.Caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:46:43 -0800 Subject: [governance] GAID Action Session, February 28, 2007, Mountain View, CA USA Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070310094626.045c4e60@gmail.com> GAID Action Session, February 28, 2007, Mountain View, CA USA Innovation Panel UN GAID to form working group to promote open ICT ecosystems Create "Environment Guidelines" to promote ICT and innovative entrepreneurs VC Panel Support quality, financially sustainable mentoring of entrepreneurs to make "Investor Ready" UN GAID to promote and publish best practices for ecosystem to support and scale innovation Content Panel Take ALL UN and development agency publications available online and free of charge Open access to communication - Bring into Telecenter FPI Bring together KEY content providers Form a network of Silicon Valley organizations to generate a common platform (UN GAID to catalyze) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Links: Coming soon... 26 March 2007 – GAID Advocacy Theme First Global Forum of the G3ICT initiative (Global Initiative for Inclusive ICT) Venue: United Nations headquarters, New York Documents: Agenda Links: http://www.g3ict.com/ http://www.un-gaid.org/fr/node/185 : “The Global Forum will give recently established G3ict work groups the opportunity to share thoughts during panel discussions on the following critical topics related to ICTs and persons with disabilities: best practices and case studies with regards to accessibility to inclusive ICTs, core inclusive ICT opportunities, standardization and harmonization of ICTs, and best practices surrounding legislation, regulation, and enforcement. The latter of these groups will also address G3icts ongoing Digital Inclusion Index research project, which seeks to evaluate and rank countries based on how effective their governments are in promoting accessible and inclusive ICTs.” Let me remind you that a regularly up dated calendar of post-WSIS related events is still maintained by CONGO at http://www.csbureau.info/posttunis.htm. All the best, Philippe Philippe Dam 11, Avenue de la Paix CH-1202 Geneva Tel: +41 22 301 1000 Fax: +41 22 301 2000 E-mail: wsis at ngocongo.org Website: www.ngocongo.org The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, membership association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United Nations debates and decisions. Founded in 1948, CONGO's major objective is to ensure the presence of NGOs in exchanges among the world's governments and United Nations agencies on issues of global concern. 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Anyone not yet having worked out why such IT giants as Microsoft and Intel can get away with having monopolies or HP can get away with spying and only suffer the odd slap on the wrist might now be able to put two and two together. The report by the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation (ITIF) says the integration of IT into virtually every aspect of the economy and society has created an economy generating economic growth and prosperity, both in the US and abroad, the report stated. "For the US alone we found that, because of the digital revolution, GDP is $2 trillion larger today than it would have been had growth in the post-1995 era proceeded at the 1974 to 1995 rate," said Robert Atkinson, president of the ITIF. He added that, while productivity gains from IT are among the highest in the US, most other nations have benefited from the IT revolution, including Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Korea, Japan, the Netherlands and Switzerland. Yup. Canada. "Accelerating digital transformation is likely to be the most important step policy makers can take to ensure robust economic growth in the future," Atkinson reckons. � - Re: The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation [ http://www.itif.org/index.php?id=34 ] Digital Prosperity Understanding the Economic Benefits of the Information Technology Revolution March 13, 2007 There have been surprisingly few attempts to catalogue what is known about the economic impact of information and communications technology (IT). In a new report, ITIF does just that, examining the impact of IT in five key areas: 1) productivity; 2) employment; 3) more efficient markets; 4) higher quality goods and services; and 5) innovation and new products and services. The report finds that the integration of IT into virtually all aspects of the economy and society is creating a digitally-enabled economy that is responsible for generating the lion�s share of economic growth and prosperity, both here and abroad, including in developing nations. Importantly, the �IT engine� does not appear likely to run out of gas anytime soon and should power robust growth for at least the next decade, provided that policy makers take the right steps. Toward that end the report lays out five key public policy principles for driving digital prosperity: 1) give the digital economy its due; 2) actively encourage digital innovation and transformation of economic sectors; 3) use the tax code to spur IT investment; 4) encourage universal digital literacy and adoption; and 5) do no harm. - L'INQ: ITIF report Digital Prosperity: Understanding the Economic Benefits of the information Technology Revolution (PDF) [ http://www.itif.org/files/digital_prosperity.pdf ] ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu Thu Mar 22 10:05:51 2007 From: David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu (David Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:05:51 -0400 Subject: [governance] Re: Response to Stephane Bortzmeyer on IDN Message-ID: After some digging around - but no trouble, just time. At 4:39 PM +1000 2/27/07, Danny Butt wrote: >Stephane, there are so many value judgements you're making in your historiography. > >While I don't have the knowledge or experience to vouch for or critique all of Subbiah's points, I can say that your characterisation of *all* the work done by alternative navigation providers as "selling dummy IDN domain names", when there were also clearly other factors at play, perfectly illustrates why much of the world outside the Euro-US technical community holds little faith in existing governance regimes. > >The IETF's "cooperation" and the "openness" of its forum has at times been limited. Especially for those who believed that their own language groups should be able to use internetworking technologies without waiting around for English-language speakers to sort out all the problems in a theoretically ideal system. > >I think that if those associated with IETF/ICANN are serious about seeing the Internet become a truly global facility would do well to take a more nuanced and less patronising view of the history of alternative naming systems, especially in the Asian region. > >Regards > >Danny Well said, in my view, Danny. At 2:09 PM +0100 2/23/07, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >I take the liberty to summarize the issue a bit. Summaries can be helpful - disinformation is another thing. >Only one proposal was done in a cooperative way, in an open forum, with the intent of being a standard, the IETF IDN Working Group, which, after many painful years, arrived in march 2003 to RFC 3490 and its friends. Only one was cooperative? - when we see the other numerous offers to work together, from the 90s forward - in fact, working together, as below ... ? The links show many dozens of meetings all over Asia, attended by hundreds. These were presentations and workshops, demonstrating several independent implementations of the original approach, in several countries over a number of years, prior to ICANN's first entrance in December 2000. >Most (all?) of the other ways were done by small companies whose intent was not to suggest a workable and realistic way but to make money fast by selling IDN to people gullible enough to buy them. (Not only small companies, after all, Verisign was in it, too.) These small companies, like i-dns.net, were very eager to file patents but much less ready to work with other people on a common standard. China? gullible? with a hundred million plus users, now three years on, interoperating seamlessly with the other root. And the other language groups also actively deploying? (By the way, I believe the record shows that the Verisign launch was a fully-ICANN approved testbed using the previous format RACE.) Not suggesting a workable way? when the way they suggested was the one adopted? Not ready to work on a common standard? when their staff led the standardization effort at IETF? when they waited to deploy until a standard was agreed in 2003? >Most of the other ways were technically very different and typically involved custom name servers, like the ones sold by the company already mentioned. This is not true. The concept originally proposed is what prevails today and is championed by IETF and ICANN. There were format choices available back then. The interim format suggested (RACE) upon re-evaluation by IETF was replaced with, among many possible formats, Punycode. RACE itself is still considered one of the best choices after Punycode. (In fact RACE itself was approved by ICANN for use by Verisign.) As for custom servers, since ICANN and the West showed no interest, and therefore no inclination, to insert the top level domain names into their global root, by necessity custom servers acting as roots were set up. But they used identical software (BIND etc) as the servers. There was no difference in anything but who had the "key" to the servers - in that sense, and only in that sense, were they "custom." >I still wait for pointers to practical descriptions of IDN, before RFC 3490 and others, which can be said to have been "blueprints". With the very voluminous pointers previously given to you, you might have taken a look, yourself. Wisdom comes, I think, largely to those who can see beyond their own, otherwise circumscribed, field of view. You are looking for pointers to pre-2003 presentations and practical descriptions - appended below is a partial list of presentations/workshops conducted by i-dns.net, its pre-cursors and its employees. Again, you might have found them yourself. Most are in English, even, and available in the archives of their well-known parent organizations. To start off, here is a pointer to a technical presentation of an early version that contains the main concept. The occasion is the Unicode conference, Boston in March 1999. Note the presenter's coordinates. http://unicode.org/iuc/iuc14/program.html Details at Session C6: /2:50 pm - 3:30 pm/ *iDNS - An Experimental DNS System with Unicode Support* /Juay-Kwang Tan , Research Officer, Bioinformatics Centre, National University of Singapore, Singapore Here is another starter, an RFC filing on the core Unicode-to-DNS concept of IDN, made by the Singapore team to the IETF back in mid-1999, which was then extended for another six months into 2000. This was already in a bullet point in the Early History of IDN (from Wikipedia) that Subbiah cut/paste for your convenience earlier. Here is the line cut from Subbiah's earlier email for you. 07/99: [12] ; Renewed 2000 [13] Internet Draft on UTF5 by James *Seng*, Martin *Duerst* and *Tan* Tin Wee. Since you profess difficulty to find this material, I have cut/paste the underlying IETF RFC, above at [13] (the six months extended version), and am sending it in a separate email. At 3:44 PM +0100 2/23/07, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >Please read before replying. It looks like this shoe can fit well on another foot. David 2002 * (/Paper/) - Internationalized Domain Names Registration and Administration Guideline for Chinese, Japanese and Korean, J. Seng, J. Klensin, K. Konishi, K. Huang, H. Qian, Y. Ko. (Published as RFC 3743 in April 2004) 2001 * (/Paper/) ITSC, Synthesis (Singapore) - Internationalization and Localization of the Internet http://james.seng.cc/files/public/internationalisation_localisation.pdf * (/Paper/) - Internationalized Domain Names and Unique Identifiers, L.M. Tseng, J.M. Ho, H. Qian, K. Huang, J. Seng * ICANN, ccTLD (Marina del Ray, CA) - Internationalized Domain Names Working Group Update * INET'2001 (Stockholm, Sweden) - chair of Internationalized Access to Domain Names Panel * Internet Week 2001 (Yokohama, Japan) - IDN SDK * ITSC, Unicode development (Singapore) - Internationalized Domain Names and Unicode/ISO10646 * APRICOT'01 (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) - Tutorial on Internationalized Domain Names * JDNA (Tokyo, Japan) - IDN and IETF Standardization * itsAsia (Singapore) - Internationalized Domain Names Working Group * itsAsia (Singapore) - Common Name Resolution Protocol * Joint ITU/WIPO Symposium (Geneva) - Internationalized Domain Names * ASTAP (Bangkok, Thailand) - Introduction to Internationalized Domain Names * Internet2/MINC (Hawaii, HO) - ASCII Compatible Encoding * WWW10 (Hong Kong) - Internationalized Identifiers 2000 * (/Paper/) APIA Issues 4: Celebrating Babel, J. Seng * (/Paper/) - Requirements of Internationalized Domain Names, J. Seng, Z. Wenzel * APAN'2000 (Japan) - Internationalized Domain Name System * APTLD'2000(Seoul, Korea) - Bring Internationalized Internet to Everyone * INET'2000 (Yokohama, Japan) - Bring Internationalized Internet to Everyone * RIPE-39 (Amsterdam, Netherlands) - Internationalized Domain Names Working Group * ICANN (Marina del Ray, CA) - Integration of IETF Standards in i-DNS.net 1999 * APAN-KR (Daejeon, Korea) - Internationalized Domain Name System * APNG at INET'99 (San Jose, CA) - Internationalized Domain Name Testbed Update * APRICOT'99 (Singapore) - Internationalized Domain Name Services * TamilNet99 (Tamil Nadu, India) - Internationalized Domain Name Services ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu Thu Mar 22 10:06:24 2007 From: David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu (David Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:06:24 -0400 Subject: [governance] 1999 RFC on core IDN concept by Singapore team - Re: Response to Stephane Bortzmeyer on IDN Message-ID: Here is the core concept filed as an RFC originally in July 1999, by the Singapore team and the individual who, I believe, was a leader/member of the Japan chapter of W3C and also a senior figure in the Unicode Consortium. Internet Draft James Seng Martin Duerst 28th Jan 2000 Tin Wee Tan Expires End of July 2000 UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode and ISO 10646 Status of this Memo This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet- Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. Distribution of this document is unlimited. Please send comments to the authors at jseng at pobox.org.sg, mduerst at w3.org and tinwee at post1.com. Abstract A new transformation format, called UTF-5 for Unicode is proposed. The resulting string of this UTF is within a [A-V][0-9] alphanumeric range. This enables legacy systems or protocols designed for alpha- numerical character set only to be multilingual enabled and inter- nationalized immediately. Example of such systems are the domain name system and email addresses. 1. Introduction ISO/IEC 10646-1:1993 [ISO-10646] defines a 16 bit character set, UCS-2 and a 31-bit character set, UCS-4. UCS-2 and UCS-4 are coded representation forms of the UCS and UCS-4 has no assignments outside the region correspoding to UCS-2 (the Basic Multilingual Plane, BMP) at this moment. The UCS-2 and UCS-4 encodings, however, are hard to use in many current applications and protocols that assume 8 or even 7 bit characters. Even newer systems able to deal with 16 bit char- acters cannot process UCS-4 data. This situation has led to the development of so-called UCS transformation formats (UTF), each with different characteristics. At this moment, there are 3 standard UTF, namely UTF-7 [UTF7], UTF-8 Expires End of July 2000 [Page 1] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 [UTF8] and UTF-16 [UTF16], each is a variable length transformation which gives 7 bit, 8 bit and 16 bit strings respectively. While these are sufficient for most application uses, there are however some legacy systems which are, unfortunately, unable to handle even 7 bit strings either due to technical restriction or common uses. The object of this memo is to propose a UTF-5 which gives a trans- formed string that is within [A-V][0-9] alphanumerical character set. This enables legacy systems designed for alphanumerical character set only to be multilingual enabled and internationalized immediately. UTF-8 is the preferred transformation format for all new IETF standards [IETFPC]. UTF-5 is not here to change this. It is proposed to support legacy applications or protocols that cannot be modified in a simple way to handle 8 bits using UTF-8 encoding. See Section 4 on the discussion on how UTF-5 can be used for Domain Name System [DNS] and Simple Mail Transfer Protocol [SMTP] Address. 2. UTF-5 definition In UTF-5, each character is encoded using a sequence of 1 to 8 octets. Two transformations are needed for UTF-5, namely 1. Determine the quintet ("5-bit") binary sequence. 2. From a table, translate the quintet to the resulting string. Take note that UTF-5 is not a sequence of quintets but a sequence of octets where each octets are in the alphanumeric range. Alpha- numeric is defined as A to V (uppercase only) and 0 to 9 in this context. This memo does not specify the binary pattern of the alphanumeric characters as the purpose of the transformation is to get a alpha- numeric string which represents a multilingual string. However, it is presumed that US-ASCII [US-ASCII] is used for most purposes. 2.1 Determine the quintet binary sequence The first quintet of a binary sequence will have the highest-order bit set to 1 and the remaining quintet will have the highest-order bit set to 0. The remaining 4 bits of every quintet contain bits from the value of the character to be encoded. The table below summarizes the format of these different quintet types. The letter x indictes bits available for encoding bits of the UCS-4 character value. Expires End of July 2000 [Page 2] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 UCS-4 range (hex.) UTF-5 quintet sequence (binary) 0000 0000-0000 000F 1xxxx 0000 0010-0000 00FF 1xxxx 0xxxx 0000 0100-0000 0FFF 1xxxx 0xxxx 0xxxx 0000 1000-0000 FFFF 1xxxx 0xxxx 0xxxx 0xxxx ... 1000 0000-7FFF FFFF 1xxxx 0xxxx 0xxxx ..... 0xxxx 2.2 Translation table for quintet and alphanumeric character The translation table for quintet binary pattern and alphanumeric character is as follows. This is effectively a duoettrigesimal (base 32) string representation of the quintets. quintet quintet quintet quintet 00000 0 01000 8 10000 G 11000 O 00001 1 01001 9 10001 H 11001 P 00010 2 01010 A 10010 I 11010 Q 00011 3 01011 B 10011 J 11011 R 00100 4 01100 C 10100 K 11100 S 00101 5 01101 D 10101 L 11101 T 00110 6 01110 E 10110 M 11110 U 00111 7 01111 F 10111 N 11111 V 2.3 Encoding from UCS-4 to UTF-5 1) Determine the required number of octets from the character value. Let U be the UCS-4 value, then the required number of octets is log16(U+1) rounded up. 2) Prepare the quintet binary sequence. Put the highest order bit of the first quintet as 1 and highest order bit of the rest of the quintet as 0. 3) Fill in the bits marked x from the bits of the character value, starting from the lower-order bits of the character value and putting them first in the last quintet of the sequence, then the next to last, etc until all x bits are filled in. 4) For each quintet, apply the lookup table in Section 2.2 to get the corresponding alphanumeric character. 2.4 Decoding UTF-5 to UCS-4 1) Determine the length of the octet sequence. As according to the UTF-5 encoding, every character will have the inital octet within the range 'G' to 'V'. Thus, the length of the octet sequence can be determined by looking for 'G' to 'V' in the UTF-5 string. 2) Apply the reverse lookup according to the table in Section 2.2 to get the quintet binary sequence. 3) Initialize the 4 octets of the UCS-4 character with all bits set to 0. Expires End of July 2000 [Page 3] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 4) Distribute the bits from the sequence to the UCS-4 character, first the lower-order bits from the last octet of the sequence and proceeding to the left until no x bits are left. If the UTF-5 sequence is no more than four octets long, the low order bits of the result can be interpreated directly as UTF-16 value or equivalently Unicode. 2.5 Detecting a UTF-5 string As the UTF-5 string is a alphanumeric string, it is difficult to differentiate between a normal ASCII document or a UTF-5 document. Nevertheless, if the string is sufficiently long, it is possible to do some detection of UTF-5 string based on the fact that 1. UTF-5 strings only have characters within '0'-'9' and 'A'-'V'. 2. UTF-5 strings have a well-defined inital octet of 'G' to 'V'. 3. The 'G' character always occurs as the inital and only octet. In other word, the shortest UTF-5 sequence is "G". For example, "GF" is not a valid UTF-5 sequence. 3. Examples of UTF-5 The Unicode sequence "A." (0041, 2262, 0391, 002E) may be encoded as follows: "K1I262J91IE" The Unicode sequence "Hi Mom !" (0048, 0069, 0020, 004D, 006F, 006D, 0020, 263A, 0021) may be encoded as follows: "K8M9I0KDMFMDI0I63AI1" The Unicode sequence representing the Han characters for the Japanese word "nihongo" (65E5, 672C, 8A9E) may be encoded as follows: "M5E5M72COA9E" Note that from the examples, it is obvious that there is a short-cut to the UTF-5 transformation which goes like this: If the hexadecimal notation is 0x00000000, convert it to 'G'; otherwise skip over all leading zeros in the hexadecimal notation and convert the first non-zero hexadecimal digital as follows: '1' to 'H', '2' to 'I', ... 'F' to 'V'. Retain all trailing hexadecimal digits. 4. Applications There are many applications where UTF-5 would be useful for Internationalization ("i18n"). Here are some of the possible uses. Expires End of July 2000 [Page 4] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 a. Internationalised Domain Names In the Domain Name System, although the technical standard does not prevent 8-bits character to be use as domain names, general use of the system restrict it to only A-Z (upper and lower), 0-9 and "-" as a valid domain name. This poses great difficulty when doing i18n of domain names as the current UTF-7, UTF-8 and UTF-16 are not compatible with the existing software system already in used. Please join idn at ops.ietf.org to join the discussion on Internationalised Domain Names "idn". Send an email to idn-request at ops.ietf.org with the word "subscribe" in the body. More information on IDN can be found at the following website: http://www.idns.org/ http://www.imc.org/idn/ b. Internationalization of Simple Mail Transfer Protocol Address While it is possible for a person to send SMTP Mail in different languages using different character set to each another using Multi- purpose Internet Mail Extensions [MIME], the SMTP Mail Address remains a challenge to be Internationalized. Internationalization of SMTP Address has two barriers, 1. the Internationalization of Domain Name System and 2. the Internationalization of the mailbox or username. SMTP mailbox has a very strict check [RFC822] due to many potential security risks when using symbols or special char- acters in mailbox. UTF-5 will allow Unicode to be used as mailbox with minimal change in system and without additional security risks. For example, an SMTP Email address for "yamaguchi at asahi.ninhon" (5C71 53J3 '@' 671D 65E5 '.' 65E5 672C) can be represented in UTF-5 "LC71L3E3 at M71DM5E5.M5E5M72C". This is a valid [RFC822] Email address which will not be rejected. It will then be the responsiblity of the user interface to render "LC71L3E3 at M71DM5E5.M5E5M72C" properly as "yamaguchi at asahi.ninhon". Internationalization of URIs is not discussed in this memo. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/International/0-URL-and-ident.html. However, uses for UTF-5 extend beyond Internet back to old legacy systems such as Telegram system or even Morse code allowing Multilingual characters to be transmitted. 5. Security Considerations This memo does not address any security consideration at the moment. 6. Acknowledgements UTF-5 was first defined by Martin Duerst at the University of Zurich in draft-duerst-dns-i18n-00.txt. Contributors (not in any order): Expires End of July 2000 [Page 5] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 Marc Blanchet Paul Gampe Ken Whistler Graham Klyne 7. Bibliography [ISO-10646] ISO/IEC 10646-1:1993. International Standard -- Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- Part 1: Architecture and Basic Multilingual Plane. [UNICODE] The Unicode Standard, Version 2.0 (ISBN 0-201-48345- [UTF-16] 9). The minor reference is Unicode Technical Report #8, The Unicode Standard, Version 2.1. Refer to URL http://www.unicode.org/unicode/standard/versions/ [UTF7] Goldsmith, D., and M. Davis, "UTF-7: A Mail-safe Transformation Format of Unicode", RFC 1642, Taligent, Inc., July 1994. [UTF8] F. Yergeau "UTF-8: a transformation format of Unicode and ISO 10646", RFC2044, Alis Technologies, October 1996. [US-ASCII] Coded Character Set--7-bit American Standard Code for Information Interchange, ANSI X3.4-1986. [DNS] P. Mockapetris "Domain Names - Concepts and Facilities", RFC1034, ISI, November 1987, "Domain Names - Implementation and Specification", RFC1035, ISI, November 1987. [SMTP] Jonathan B. Postel "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol", [RFC822] RFC821, ISI, August 1982. David H. Crocker "Standard for ARPA Internet Text Messages", RFC822, Dept of Electrical Engineering, Univeristy of Delaware, August 1982. [MIME] "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions", RFC1341, N. Borensten, Bellcore, N. Freed, Innosoft, June 1992. [IETFPC] "IETF Policy on Character Sets and Languages", RFC2277 BCP18, H. Alvestrand, Jan 1998. Expires End of July 2000 [Page 6] Internet Draft UTF-5, a transformation format of Unicode Jan 2000 8. Author Address James C.H Seng i-DNS.net International Inc. 102 Elm Street Menlo Park CA 94025 Tel: (650) 322-6505 E-mail: jseng at pobox.org.sg Martin J. Duerst World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Keio Research Institute at SFC Keio University Fujisawa 252-8520 Japan Tel: +81 446 49 11 70 E-mail: mduerst at w3.org NOTE -- Please write the author's name with u-Umlaut wherever possible, e.g. in HTML as Dürst. Tin Wee Tan, Dr National University of Singapore (NUS) c/o BioInformatic Center National University Hospital Lower Kent Ridge Road Singapore 119074 Tel: +65 774 7149 E-mail: tinwee at post1.com This memo is also archived at http://www.idns.org/technical.html Expires End of July 2000 [Page 7] ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From yasmeen at diplomacy.edu Thu Mar 22 11:12:10 2007 From: yasmeen at diplomacy.edu (Yasmeen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:12:10 +0100 Subject: [governance] Third Capacity Building Programme underway Message-ID: <054001c76c94$76d26cd0$19a1a8c0@yaspc> Dear All, Just to let you know that Diplo's Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme was launched at the beginning of March 138 participants chosen from 570 applications from 92 developping countries. These participants will be divided into 9 regional groups, including one bilingual Spanish group, mainly from Latin American countries. This year, the 16 week online course has been restructured into two phases: a 6-week introductory phase on the basic issues surrounding Internet Governance and Policy followed by a 10-week intermediate phase focussing on issues from the various thematic areas that are of specific concern to developping countries. This will be followed by a three month online research phase, where participants will form research teams online to carry out policy research on Internet Governance and Policy. The top participants on in the programme will then be eligible for fellowships to attend the IGF in Rio or related regional meetings, work on research projects or internships with partner organisations. I am attaching a brief outline of the participants selected for this year's programme, for your information. 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Name: IGCBP 07 SUMMARY REPORT.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 339793 bytes Desc: not available URL: From robin at ipjustice.org Fri Mar 23 13:09:14 2007 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:09:14 -0700 Subject: [governance] ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship & Nat'l Sovereignty at Issue Message-ID: <460409BA.7000901@ipjustice.org> IPJ Blog post on new gTLD policy: http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/icann_gtld_policy_problems/ ====== -- ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship and National Sovereignty at Issue -- 22 March 2007 — As ICANN’s Board Meeting http://www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon/ in Lisbon is about to kick-off, a number of important policy issues are on the agenda. One of the most hotly contested issues at ICANN is the current draft proposal regarding the introduction of new generic top-level domains (gTLDs) and its impact on free expression and national sovereignty. While the latest (16 March 2007) draft proposal http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-16mar07.htm would no longer allow a single country to block a new gTLD string application for non-technical reasons, it would allow any group of nations to block an application for a new top-level domain for non-technical reasons. Recommendation 6 in the draft proposal still reads “Strings must not be contrary to generally accepted legal norms relating to morality and public order.” But now, instead of any 1 country being able to block a string on a subject it didn’t like, any group of countries objecting to a string would be able to kill the application. Why would the ICANN Board want to give this kind of control and censorious powers to the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC)? ICANN should stick to its technical mission and remain content-neutral in the allocation of new top-level domains and leave the politics out of the formulations. And the proposed gTLD policy still operates under the fiction that there are such accepted public policy and morality legal norms. The proposed gTLD policy is still a recipe for censorship and an attack on national sovereignty. Why should the restrictions in any one country be imposed upon the citizens of another country? No one has even attempted to provide a justification for that. ICANN’s Non-Commercial User’s Constituency (NCUC) proposed http://www.ipjustice.org/ICANN/drafts/022207.html to reform the new gTLD policy so that national laws will govern what speech may be permitted in a country, not ICANN policy. But that proposal was summarily swept aside. Former ICANN Board Member Michael Palage and current GNSO Council Member Avri Doria have published a paper http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/keep_core_neutral.pdf recommending that ICANN remain content-neutral and resist the path of censorship in the introduction of new gTLDs. Concerned Netizens are encouraged to contact the ICANN Board and their GAC Members to urge reform of the proposed policy. NCUC prepared a sample letter to ICANN Board Members http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_board_gtld and a sample letter to GAC Members http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_gac_gtlds to assist Netizens in making their voices heard. The GNSO Committee’s proposal still erroneously equates trademark rights with rights to domain names. The draft proposal attempts to justify censorship in the new gTLD space on the flaky rationale that trademark law does not permit the registration of scandalous words. The Committee fails to recognize that a trademark is an exclusive right to prevent others from using a word in commerce, and the policy they are setting is whether anyone can use use a word at all in the new gTLD space. Big difference. Both the GNSO Committee on New gTLDs and the GAC will make policy recommendations on the issue to the ICANN Board. The ICANN Board will then vote on the policy recommendations. The ICANN Board would be smart to remain content-neutral and not allow ICANN’s technical mission to become muddled down in politics by giving GAC any power to prevent a new string for non-technical reasons. Nor should ICANN give itself any right to prevent a string for non-technical reasons. Besides the fact that its censorship, it will also create legal liability for ICANN. But the question remains open: Can ICANN stand-up to the GAC and resist the urge to impose a policy of censorship in the new gTLD space? See related: NCUC Press Release of 2/27/7 “Power Grab: ICANN to Become Internet’s Word Police” http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/02/27/icann-power-grab/ If you live in the United States, your representative on the GAC is Suzanne Sene from the US Commerce Department. Suzanne Sene can be contacted via email to SSene[at]ntia.doc.gov The ICANN GAC representatives from other countries are listed here: http://gac.icann.org/web/contact/reps/index.shtml The ICANN Board of Directors are listed here: http://www.icann.org/general/board.html ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From scrawford at scrawford.net Fri Mar 23 13:27:21 2007 From: scrawford at scrawford.net (Susan Crawford) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:27:21 +0000 Subject: [governance] ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship & Nat'l Sovereignty at Issue In-Reply-To: <460409BA.7000901@ipjustice.org> References: <460409BA.7000901@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <01ff01c76d70$8aeb9c50$110014ac@LENOVO00DAB66D> Hey, Robin, the link goes to Whois -- do you have the draft proposal link? -----Original Message----- From: Robin Gross [mailto:robin at ipjustice.org] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 5:09 PM To: expression at ipjustice.org; a2k-igf at ipjustice.org; a2k discuss list; governance at lists.cpsr.org Subject: [governance] ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship & Nat'l Sovereignty at Issue IPJ Blog post on new gTLD policy: http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/icann_gtld_policy_problems/ ====== -- ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship and National Sovereignty at Issue -- 22 March 2007 - As ICANN's Board Meeting http://www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon/ in Lisbon is about to kick-off, a number of important policy issues are on the agenda. One of the most hotly contested issues at ICANN is the current draft proposal regarding the introduction of new generic top-level domains (gTLDs) and its impact on free expression and national sovereignty. While the latest (16 March 2007) draft proposal http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-16mar07.htm would no longer allow a single country to block a new gTLD string application for non-technical reasons, it would allow any group of nations to block an application for a new top-level domain for non-technical reasons. Recommendation 6 in the draft proposal still reads "Strings must not be contrary to generally accepted legal norms relating to morality and public order." But now, instead of any 1 country being able to block a string on a subject it didn't like, any group of countries objecting to a string would be able to kill the application. Why would the ICANN Board want to give this kind of control and censorious powers to the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC)? ICANN should stick to its technical mission and remain content-neutral in the allocation of new top-level domains and leave the politics out of the formulations. And the proposed gTLD policy still operates under the fiction that there are such accepted public policy and morality legal norms. The proposed gTLD policy is still a recipe for censorship and an attack on national sovereignty. Why should the restrictions in any one country be imposed upon the citizens of another country? No one has even attempted to provide a justification for that. ICANN's Non-Commercial User's Constituency (NCUC) proposed http://www.ipjustice.org/ICANN/drafts/022207.html to reform the new gTLD policy so that national laws will govern what speech may be permitted in a country, not ICANN policy. But that proposal was summarily swept aside. Former ICANN Board Member Michael Palage and current GNSO Council Member Avri Doria have published a paper http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/keep_core_neutral.pdf recommending that ICANN remain content-neutral and resist the path of censorship in the introduction of new gTLDs. Concerned Netizens are encouraged to contact the ICANN Board and their GAC Members to urge reform of the proposed policy. NCUC prepared a sample letter to ICANN Board Members http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_board_gtld and a sample letter to GAC Members http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_gac_gtlds to assist Netizens in making their voices heard. The GNSO Committee's proposal still erroneously equates trademark rights with rights to domain names. The draft proposal attempts to justify censorship in the new gTLD space on the flaky rationale that trademark law does not permit the registration of scandalous words. The Committee fails to recognize that a trademark is an exclusive right to prevent others from using a word in commerce, and the policy they are setting is whether anyone can use use a word at all in the new gTLD space. Big difference. Both the GNSO Committee on New gTLDs and the GAC will make policy recommendations on the issue to the ICANN Board. The ICANN Board will then vote on the policy recommendations. The ICANN Board would be smart to remain content-neutral and not allow ICANN's technical mission to become muddled down in politics by giving GAC any power to prevent a new string for non-technical reasons. Nor should ICANN give itself any right to prevent a string for non-technical reasons. Besides the fact that its censorship, it will also create legal liability for ICANN. But the question remains open: Can ICANN stand-up to the GAC and resist the urge to impose a policy of censorship in the new gTLD space? See related: NCUC Press Release of 2/27/7 "Power Grab: ICANN to Become Internet's Word Police" http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/02/27/icann-power-grab/ If you live in the United States, your representative on the GAC is Suzanne Sene from the US Commerce Department. Suzanne Sene can be contacted via email to SSene[at]ntia.doc.gov The ICANN GAC representatives from other countries are listed here: http://gac.icann.org/web/contact/reps/index.shtml The ICANN Board of Directors are listed here: http://www.icann.org/general/board.html ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From mueller at syr.edu Mon Mar 26 07:13:37 2007 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:13:37 -0400 Subject: [governance] ICANN Lisbon meeting Message-ID: I am attending the ICANN meeting in Lisbon. Here's my first blog on the topic: http://blog.internetgovernance.org/ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From ca at rits.org.br Mon Mar 26 08:37:09 2007 From: ca at rits.org.br (Carlos Afonso) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:37:09 -0300 Subject: [governance] ICANN Lisbon meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4607BE75.7000308@rits.org.br> Tahnks, Milton. I did a summary in Portuguese for circulation in Brazilian lists, quoting the original source of course. frt rgds --c.a. Milton Mueller wrote: > I am attending the ICANN meeting in Lisbon. Here's my first blog on the > topic: > http://blog.internetgovernance.org/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carlos A. Afonso diretor de planejamento Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor - Rits http://www.rits.org.br ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From LMcKnigh at syr.edu Tue Mar 27 21:57:38 2007 From: LMcKnigh at syr.edu (Lee McKnight) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:57:38 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 Message-ID: So - how should I answer? I guess they are confusing IGP and IGF. Not that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with giganet ii...but main thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and safely in Rio for IGF II right. Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio Convention & Visitors bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable accommodations and logistics ie transport? Any other volunteers? Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry about us all as much as it and the Brazilian govt does the official main stage event and hotel? : ) Lee Prof. Lee W. McKnight School of Information Studies Syracuse University +1-315-443-6891office +1-315-278-4392 mobile >>> "Daniella Pedras" 3/13/2007 5:13 PM >>> Dear Dr. McKnight, The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled and honoured to learn that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP Conference in 2008. The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private non profit Foundation that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of about 120 companies in the tourist industry (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the member categories). Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for meetings. Its infrastructure includes a perfect airline connection for the whole world, an international airport with capacity for 520 flights per day, distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around 24.000 hotel rooms, many of which with convention centers. And then of course we have the city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, curving beaches, mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful scenery, an active cultural environment, large choice of restaurants and world class shopping at competitive prices and a warm and friendly people. Concerning services if you wish we can put you in contact with our member suppliers (travel agencies, professional organizers, hotels, catering, etc.) Could you inform us name, title and estimative of participants of the event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web site we would like to include it.. We are at your disposal for any further information, Best regards, Daniella Pedras Congresses & Events Department Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau (55 21) 22 59 61 65 daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr www.rcvb.com.br "Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American games 2007 - Rio de Janeiro" ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From robin at ipjustice.org Wed Mar 28 03:40:18 2007 From: robin at ipjustice.org (Robin Gross) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:40:18 -0700 Subject: [governance] ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship & Nat'l Sovereignty at Issue In-Reply-To: <01ff01c76d70$8aeb9c50$110014ac@LENOVO00DAB66D> References: <460409BA.7000901@ipjustice.org> <01ff01c76d70$8aeb9c50$110014ac@LENOVO00DAB66D> Message-ID: <460A1BE2.2000106@ipjustice.org> Hi Susan, Sorry about the bad link. Wish I was in Lisbon this week for all the fun! :-) The link to the latest draft of the GNSO Committee's report is here: http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/pdp-dec05-draft-fr.htm The link to the NCUC proposal is here: http://www.ipjustice.org/ICANN/drafts/022207.html Best, Robin Susan Crawford wrote: >Hey, Robin, the link goes to Whois -- do you have the draft proposal link? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robin Gross [mailto:robin at ipjustice.org] >Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 5:09 PM >To: expression at ipjustice.org; a2k-igf at ipjustice.org; a2k discuss list; >governance at lists.cpsr.org >Subject: [governance] ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: >Censorship & Nat'l Sovereignty at Issue > >IPJ Blog post on new gTLD policy: >http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/icann_gtld_policy_problems/ > >====== > >-- ICANN New gTLD Policy Up for Debate in Lisbon: Censorship and >National Sovereignty at Issue -- > >22 March 2007 - As ICANN's Board Meeting >http://www.icann.org/meetings/lisbon/ in Lisbon is about to kick-off, a >number of important policy issues are on the agenda. > >One of the most hotly contested issues at ICANN is the current draft >proposal regarding the introduction of new generic top-level domains >(gTLDs) and its impact on free expression and national sovereignty. > >While the latest (16 March 2007) draft proposal >http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-16mar07.htm would no >longer allow a single country to block a new gTLD string application for >non-technical reasons, it would allow any group of nations to block an >application for a new top-level domain for non-technical reasons. > >Recommendation 6 in the draft proposal still reads "Strings must not be >contrary to generally accepted legal norms relating to morality and >public order." > >But now, instead of any 1 country being able to block a string on a >subject it didn't like, any group of countries objecting to a string >would be able to kill the application. > >Why would the ICANN Board want to give this kind of control and >censorious powers to the Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC)? ICANN >should stick to its technical mission and remain content-neutral in the >allocation of new top-level domains and leave the politics out of the >formulations. > >And the proposed gTLD policy still operates under the fiction that there >are such accepted public policy and morality legal norms. > >The proposed gTLD policy is still a recipe for censorship and an attack >on national sovereignty. Why should the restrictions in any one country >be imposed upon the citizens of another country? No one has even >attempted to provide a justification for that. > >ICANN's Non-Commercial User's Constituency (NCUC) proposed >http://www.ipjustice.org/ICANN/drafts/022207.html to reform the new gTLD >policy so that national laws will govern what speech may be permitted in >a country, not ICANN policy. But that proposal was summarily swept aside. > >Former ICANN Board Member Michael Palage and current GNSO Council Member >Avri Doria have published a paper >http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/keep_core_neutral.pdf > >recommending that ICANN remain content-neutral and resist the path of >censorship in the introduction of new gTLDs. > >Concerned Netizens are encouraged to contact the ICANN Board and their >GAC Members to urge reform of the proposed policy. NCUC prepared a >sample letter to ICANN Board Members >http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_board_gtld and a sample letter >to GAC Members http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/03/22/letter_gac_gtlds to >assist Netizens in making their voices heard. > >The GNSO Committee's proposal still erroneously equates trademark rights >with rights to domain names. The draft proposal attempts to justify >censorship in the new gTLD space on the flaky rationale that trademark >law does not permit the registration of scandalous words. The Committee >fails to recognize that a trademark is an exclusive right to prevent >others from using a word in commerce, and the policy they are setting is >whether anyone can use use a word at all in the new gTLD space. Big >difference. > >Both the GNSO Committee on New gTLDs and the GAC will make policy >recommendations on the issue to the ICANN Board. The ICANN Board will >then vote on the policy recommendations. The ICANN Board would be smart >to remain content-neutral and not allow ICANN's technical mission to >become muddled down in politics by giving GAC any power to prevent a new >string for non-technical reasons. Nor should ICANN give itself any right >to prevent a string for non-technical reasons. Besides the fact that its >censorship, it will also create legal liability for ICANN. > >But the question remains open: Can ICANN stand-up to the GAC and resist >the urge to impose a policy of censorship in the new gTLD space? > >See related: NCUC Press Release of 2/27/7 "Power Grab: ICANN to Become >Internet's Word Police" http://ipjustice.org/wp/2007/02/27/icann-power-grab/ > >If you live in the United States, your representative on the GAC is >Suzanne Sene from the US Commerce Department. Suzanne Sene can be >contacted via email to SSene[at]ntia.doc.gov > >The ICANN GAC representatives from other countries are listed here: >http://gac.icann.org/web/contact/reps/index.shtml > >The ICANN Board of Directors are listed here: >http://www.icann.org/general/board.html > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From ca at rits.org.br Wed Mar 28 05:16:19 2007 From: ca at rits.org.br (Carlos Afonso) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:16:19 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Unless the IGP is really cooking something for Rio *in 2008*, these people of the Rio Convention Bureau are certainly quite misinformed :) I will check this as soon as I get back to Rio, and get back to you. BTW, a few of us are discussing the possibility of holding a CS meeting just before the IGF meeting in Rio, perhaps at the same venue (if the organizers are supportive). This would be an opportunity for an exchange of opinions and proposals among us, perhaps even fine-tuning them, before we go into the big show. Basically thinking of a one-day event with up to 150-200 people, on November 10th or 11th. I think this would make sense if we could consider this milestone in CS's (including the "dynamic" coalitions') discussion/preparatory process leading to IGF. I need reactions/ideas on this ASAP so I can negotiate with the local organizers how far they would go in supporting this. frt rgds --c.a. Lee McKnight wrote: > So - how should I answer? I guess they are confusing IGP and IGF. Not > that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with giganet ii...but main > thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and safely in Rio for IGF > II right. > > Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio Convention & Visitors > bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable accommodations and logistics > ie transport? Any other volunteers? > > Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry about us all as much > as it and the Brazilian govt does the official main stage event and > hotel? : ) > > Lee > > Prof. Lee W. McKnight > School of Information Studies > Syracuse University > +1-315-443-6891office > +1-315-278-4392 mobile > >>>> "Daniella Pedras" 3/13/2007 5:13 PM >>>> > > Dear Dr. McKnight, > > > The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled and honoured to learn > that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP Conference in 2008. > > > > The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private non profit Foundation > that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of about 120 companies in > the tourist industry (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select > ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the member categories). > > Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for meetings. Its > infrastructure includes a perfect airline connection for the whole > world, an international airport with capacity for 520 flights per day, > distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around 24.000 hotel rooms, > many of which with convention centers. And then of course we have the > city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, curving beaches, > mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful scenery, an active > cultural environment, large choice of restaurants and world class > shopping at competitive prices and a warm and friendly people. > > Concerning services if you wish we can put you in contact with our > member suppliers (travel agencies, professional organizers, hotels, > catering, etc.) > > Could you inform us name, title and estimative of participants of the > event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web site we would like to > include it.. > > We are at your disposal for any further information, > > Best regards, > > > Daniella Pedras > Congresses & Events Department > Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau > (55 21) 22 59 61 65 > daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr > www.rcvb.com.br > > "Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American games 2007 - Rio de > Janeiro" > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carlos A. Afonso diretor de planejamento Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor - Rits http://www.rits.org.br ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From jberleur at info.fundp.ac.be Wed Mar 28 06:23:10 2007 From: jberleur at info.fundp.ac.be (Jacques Berleur) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:23:10 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> References: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: I would be interested in having that meeting. Yours, Jacques ************************************************ Prof. Jacques BERLEUR Facultes Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix Rue Grandgagnage, 21 Phone: +32 81 72-4976 Mobile: +32 (0)475 548372 5000 NAMUR Fax: +32 81 72 4967 BELGIUM mailto:jberleur at info.fundp.ac.be URL: http://www.info.fundp.ac.be/~jbl/ ************************************************ >Unless the IGP is really cooking something for >Rio *in 2008*, these people of the Rio >Convention Bureau are certainly quite >misinformed :) > >I will check this as soon as I get back to Rio, and get back to you. > >BTW, a few of us are discussing the possibility >of holding a CS meeting just before the IGF >meeting in Rio, perhaps at the same venue (if >the organizers are supportive). This would be an >opportunity for an exchange of opinions and >proposals among us, perhaps even fine-tuning >them, before we go into the big show. Basically >thinking of a one-day event with up to 150-200 >people, on November 10th or 11th. I think this >would make sense if we could consider this >milestone in CS's (including the "dynamic" >coalitions') discussion/preparatory process >leading to IGF. > >I need reactions/ideas on this ASAP so I can >negotiate with the local organizers how far they >would go in supporting this. > >frt rgds > >--c.a. > >Lee McKnight wrote: >>So - how should I answer? I guess they are confusing IGP and IGF. Not >>that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with giganet ii...but main >>thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and safely in Rio for IGF >>II right. >> >>Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio Convention & Visitors >>bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable accommodations and logistics >>ie transport? Any other volunteers? >> >>Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry about us all as much >>as it and the Brazilian govt does the official main stage event and >>hotel? : ) >> >>Lee >> >>Prof. Lee W. McKnight >>School of Information Studies >>Syracuse University >>+1-315-443-6891office >>+1-315-278-4392 mobile >> >>>>>"Daniella Pedras" 3/13/2007 5:13 PM >>>>> >> >>Dear Dr. McKnight, >> >> >>The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled and honoured to learn >>that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP Conference in 2008. >> >> >> >>The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private non profit Foundation >>that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of about 120 companies in >>the tourist industry (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select >>ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the member categories). >> >>Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for meetings. Its >>infrastructure includes a perfect airline connection for the whole >>world, an international airport with capacity for 520 flights per day, >>distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around 24.000 hotel rooms, >>many of which with convention centers. And then of course we have the >>city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, curving beaches, >>mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful scenery, an active >>cultural environment, large choice of restaurants and world class >>shopping at competitive prices and a warm and friendly people. >> >>Concerning services if you wish we can put you in contact with our >>member suppliers (travel agencies, professional organizers, hotels, >>catering, etc.) >> >>Could you inform us name, title and estimative of participants of the >>event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web site we would like to >>include it.. >> >>We are at your disposal for any further information, >> >>Best regards, >> >> >>Daniella Pedras >>Congresses & Events Department >>Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau >>(55 21) 22 59 61 65 >>daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr www.rcvb.com.br >>"Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American games 2007 - Rio de >>Janeiro" >>____________________________________________________________ >>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.cpsr.org >>To be removed from the list, send any message to: >> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org >> >>For all list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> >> > >-- > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Carlos A. Afonso >diretor de planejamento >Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor - Rits >http://www.rits.org.br >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From drake at hei.unige.ch Wed Mar 28 07:41:06 2007 From: drake at hei.unige.ch (William Drake) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:41:06 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: Hi Carlos, A CS meeting is a good idea. One consideration on timing---we expect to hold the second GigaNet symposium on the day prior to the IGF, the 11th, and if the Athens symposium is any indicator, presumably a lot of CS/academic types would want to be able to attend that. If it were possible to do the CS meeting on the 10th, that would avoid any conflict. Just a thought... Best, Bill On 3/28/07 11:16 AM, "Carlos Afonso" wrote: > Unless the IGP is really cooking something for Rio *in 2008*, these > people of the Rio Convention Bureau are certainly quite misinformed :) > > I will check this as soon as I get back to Rio, and get back to you. > > BTW, a few of us are discussing the possibility of holding a CS meeting > just before the IGF meeting in Rio, perhaps at the same venue (if the > organizers are supportive). This would be an opportunity for an exchange > of opinions and proposals among us, perhaps even fine-tuning them, > before we go into the big show. Basically thinking of a one-day event > with up to 150-200 people, on November 10th or 11th. I think this would > make sense if we could consider this milestone in CS's (including the > "dynamic" coalitions') discussion/preparatory process leading to IGF. > > I need reactions/ideas on this ASAP so I can negotiate with the local > organizers how far they would go in supporting this. > > frt rgds > > --c.a. > > Lee McKnight wrote: >> So - how should I answer? I guess they are confusing IGP and IGF. Not >> that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with giganet ii...but main >> thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and safely in Rio for IGF >> II right. >> >> Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio Convention & Visitors >> bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable accommodations and logistics >> ie transport? Any other volunteers? >> >> Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry about us all as much >> as it and the Brazilian govt does the official main stage event and >> hotel? : ) >> >> Lee >> >> Prof. Lee W. McKnight >> School of Information Studies >> Syracuse University >> +1-315-443-6891office >> +1-315-278-4392 mobile >> >>>>> "Daniella Pedras" 3/13/2007 5:13 PM >>>>> >> >> Dear Dr. McKnight, >> >> >> The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled and honoured to learn >> that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP Conference in 2008. >> >> >> >> The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private non profit Foundation >> that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of about 120 companies in >> the tourist industry (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select >> ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the member categories). >> >> Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for meetings. Its >> infrastructure includes a perfect airline connection for the whole >> world, an international airport with capacity for 520 flights per day, >> distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around 24.000 hotel rooms, >> many of which with convention centers. And then of course we have the >> city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, curving beaches, >> mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful scenery, an active >> cultural environment, large choice of restaurants and world class >> shopping at competitive prices and a warm and friendly people. >> >> Concerning services if you wish we can put you in contact with our >> member suppliers (travel agencies, professional organizers, hotels, >> catering, etc.) >> >> Could you inform us name, title and estimative of participants of the >> event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web site we would like to >> include it.. >> >> We are at your disposal for any further information, >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Daniella Pedras >> Congresses & Events Department >> Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau >> (55 21) 22 59 61 65 >> daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr >> www.rcvb.com.br >> >> "Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American games 2007 - Rio de >> Janeiro" >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.cpsr.org >> To be removed from the list, send any message to: >> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org >> >> For all list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From iza at anr.org Wed Mar 28 07:51:56 2007 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:51:56 +0900 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: I also think to have a CS meeting is a good idea. To add, perhaps, is that while the hots remains CS, it could be productive to invite other stakeholders, at least in part of the program, say governments, private sector and Int'l Orgs, to discuss how to advance multi-stakeholder model, not only CS talking to CS... izumi 2007/3/28, William Drake : > > Hi Carlos, > > A CS meeting is a good idea. One consideration on timing---we expect to > hold the second GigaNet symposium on the day prior to the IGF, the 11th, > and > if the Athens symposium is any indicator, presumably a lot of CS/academic > types would want to be able to attend that. If it were possible to do the > CS meeting on the 10th, that would avoid any conflict. Just a thought... > > Best, > > Bill > > > > On 3/28/07 11:16 AM, "Carlos Afonso" wrote: > > > Unless the IGP is really cooking something for Rio *in 2008*, these > > people of the Rio Convention Bureau are certainly quite misinformed :) > > > > I will check this as soon as I get back to Rio, and get back to you. > > > > BTW, a few of us are discussing the possibility of holding a CS meeting > > just before the IGF meeting in Rio, perhaps at the same venue (if the > > organizers are supportive). This would be an opportunity for an exchange > > of opinions and proposals among us, perhaps even fine-tuning them, > > before we go into the big show. Basically thinking of a one-day event > > with up to 150-200 people, on November 10th or 11th. I think this would > > make sense if we could consider this milestone in CS's (including the > > "dynamic" coalitions') discussion/preparatory process leading to IGF. > > > > I need reactions/ideas on this ASAP so I can negotiate with the local > > organizers how far they would go in supporting this. > > > > frt rgds > > > > --c.a. > > > > Lee McKnight wrote: > >> So - how should I answer? I guess they are confusing IGP and IGF. Not > >> that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with giganet ii...but > main > >> thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and safely in Rio for > IGF > >> II right. > >> > >> Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio Convention & Visitors > >> bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable accommodations and logistics > >> ie transport? Any other volunteers? > >> > >> Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry about us all as much > >> as it and the Brazilian govt does the official main stage event and > >> hotel? : ) > >> > >> Lee > >> > >> Prof. Lee W. McKnight > >> School of Information Studies > >> Syracuse University > >> +1-315-443-6891office > >> +1-315-278-4392 mobile > >> > >>>>> "Daniella Pedras" 3/13/2007 5:13 PM > >>>>> > >> > >> Dear Dr. McKnight, > >> > >> > >> The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled and honoured to learn > >> that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP Conference in 2008. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private non profit Foundation > >> that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of about 120 companies > in > >> the tourist industry (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select > >> ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the member categories). > >> > >> Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for meetings. Its > >> infrastructure includes a perfect airline connection for the whole > >> world, an international airport with capacity for 520 flights per day, > >> distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around 24.000 hotel rooms, > >> many of which with convention centers. And then of course we have the > >> city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, curving beaches, > >> mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful scenery, an active > >> cultural environment, large choice of restaurants and world class > >> shopping at competitive prices and a warm and friendly people. > >> > >> Concerning services if you wish we can put you in contact with our > >> member suppliers (travel agencies, professional organizers, hotels, > >> catering, etc.) > >> > >> Could you inform us name, title and estimative of participants of the > >> event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web site we would like > to > >> include it.. > >> > >> We are at your disposal for any further information, > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> > >> Daniella Pedras > >> Congresses & Events Department > >> Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau > >> (55 21) 22 59 61 65 > >> daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr > >> www.rcvb.com.br > >> > >> "Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American games 2007 - Rio de > >> Janeiro" > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.cpsr.org > >> To be removed from the list, send any message to: > >> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >> > >> For all list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > >> > >> > >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for HyperNetwork Society Kumon Center, Tama University * * * * * << Writing the Future of the History >> www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He also invited the Regional Coordinators to attend the meeting as special invitees." This suggests that the special advisers and "Regional Coordinators" are in addition to the 46. It doesn't say how many of each there are, and Avri has said there are six of each but there are only five special advisors listed on the site. And who are these Regional Coordinators? - they are mentioned as if we are already expected to know who they are. I have an idea from somewhere that they are from the regional commissions of the UN, of which there are five rather than six, but can anyone confirm for sure? -- Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au Wed Mar 28 08:06:05 2007 From: Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:06:05 +0800 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: <460A5A2D.8060200@Malcolm.id.au> Izumi AIZU wrote: > I also think to have a CS meeting is a good idea. To add, perhaps, > is that while the hots remains CS, it could be productive to invite > other stakeholders, at least in part of the program, say governments, > private sector and Int'l Orgs, to discuss how to advance multi-stakeholder > model, not only CS talking to CS... As far as that goes, mightn't we be jumping the gun? The IGC was amongst those who called for a meta-governance theme to be included in the official agenda of the Rio meeting. For all we know yet, it might be. -- Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From avri at psg.com Wed Mar 28 08:16:44 2007 From: avri at psg.com (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:16:44 +0100 Subject: [governance] Statement for the Feb 13 meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28928443-8459-4C32-A2CB-D1FD4F064A51@psg.com> Hi, the 46 listed on the web site include the 6 regional members and they were just blended into the advisory group list. that plus the 6 special advisers ma 52de. but of course that is the advisory group that was. we still don't have any formal word on the continuation of that group. there are some members who may not continue, some may already have been removed from the lists (i have not been tracking it) and it is uncertain what actions will be taken to replace them. but i would be surprised if it did not end up being 46+6 again. a. On 28 mar 2007, at 12.54, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 at 02:30:34, Avri Doria wrote: >>> I think there are 46 members of the MAG (can someone check). >> >> if i understand correctly, there are >> >> 40 'original' Advisory Group members + 6 regional members of the >> Advisory >> Group + 6 special advisors to the Chair. >> >> making 52. i think. > > Or are there 56? There are 46 Advisory Group members listed at > http://www.intgovforum.org/ADG_members.htm (excluding the Chair), > and then it > says "The Chairman asked a number of special advisers to assist him > in this > process. He also invited the Regional Coordinators to attend the > meeting as > special invitees." This suggests that the special advisers and > "Regional > Coordinators" are in addition to the 46. > > It doesn't say how many of each there are, and Avri has said there > are six of > each but there are only five special advisors listed on the site. > And who are > these Regional Coordinators? - they are mentioned as if we are > already expected > to know who they are. I have an idea from somewhere that they are > from the > regional commissions of the UN, of which there are five rather than > six, but > can anyone confirm for sure? > > -- > Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com > Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor > host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}' > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From mueller at syr.edu Wed Mar 28 09:31:19 2007 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:31:19 -0400 Subject: [governance] ICANN Lisbon meeting Message-ID: I did another blog post last night, may have time to do one more later today (there is some (non)decision on Whois.) http://blog.internetgovernance.org >>> ca at rits.org.br 3/26/2007 8:37 AM >>> Tahnks, Milton. I did a summary in Portuguese for circulation in Brazilian lists, quoting the original source of course. frt rgds --c.a. Milton Mueller wrote: > I am attending the ICANN meeting in Lisbon. Here's my first blog on the > topic: > http://blog.internetgovernance.org/ > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carlos A. Afonso diretor de planejamento Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor - Rits http://www.rits.org.br ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From karenb at gn.apc.org Wed Mar 28 10:29:04 2007 From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:29:04 +0100 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: <20070328142906.C128519385B@mail.gn.apc.org> hi bill and all >A CS meeting is a good idea. One consideration on timing---we expect to >hold the second GigaNet symposium on the day prior to the IGF, the 11th, and >if the Athens symposium is any indicator, presumably a lot of CS/academic >types would want to be able to attend that. If it were possible to do the >CS meeting on the 10th, that would avoid any conflict. Just a thought... we would also support a CS meeting.. in response to bill's note about giganet and timing - i can see we're going to have some challenges ;).. carlos and i met here in lisbon to discuss the APC council meeting (which we'll hold prior to the IGF nov 2-9) which we will then follow with a one day public event on low cost connectivity/access - as an IGF pre event, that will also feed into the agenda proper (somehow) that is scheduled for Nov 10th - and i really wouldn't like for that to clash with a general CS event - that said, i know no-one wants to have events clashing, but not sure what options we have we all want to make the most of the IGF event in several (connected) ways - but, i don't think we can hold events much earlier than the 10th (and get folks attending who are attending the IGF) - we may have to live with some cross-over - but the earlier we can talk specifics, the better.. to ensure we all can make the most of the various opportunities having all events in the one place for example, would be a good start.. karen ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com Wed Mar 28 12:02:43 2007 From: nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com (NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: <460A3263.4000601@rits.org.br> Message-ID: <754605.36163.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I see this as a good idea, as it will allow the CS for exchange of ideas and receive reports as to series of National Regional and global activitty Post Athens, that may have been carried by all concerned. Besides, now that the African Regional GAID was just launched successfully at the just concluded African Civil Society Forum held btween March 22-24 2007, in Addis Ababa. Finally we shall articulate views and points for presnetation for the plennary from the CS. We are interesetd and do keep us posted. Pastor Peters OMORAGBON' National Coordinator ACSIS/WSIS Nigerian Chapter --- Carlos Afonso wrote: > Unless the IGP is really cooking something for Rio > *in 2008*, these > people of the Rio Convention Bureau are certainly > quite misinformed :) > > I will check this as soon as I get back to Rio, and > get back to you. > > BTW, a few of us are discussing the possibility of > holding a CS meeting > just before the IGF meeting in Rio, perhaps at the > same venue (if the > organizers are supportive). This would be an > opportunity for an exchange > of opinions and proposals among us, perhaps even > fine-tuning them, > before we go into the big show. Basically thinking > of a one-day event > with up to 150-200 people, on November 10th or 11th. > I think this would > make sense if we could consider this milestone in > CS's (including the > "dynamic" coalitions') discussion/preparatory > process leading to IGF. > > I need reactions/ideas on this ASAP so I can > negotiate with the local > organizers how far they would go in supporting this. > > frt rgds > > --c.a. > > Lee McKnight wrote: > > So - how should I answer? I guess they are > confusing IGP and IGF. Not > > that IGP might not set up a sideshow, or help with > giganet ii...but main > > thing is getting CS folks settled comfortably and > safely in Rio for IGF > > II right. > > > > Is CONGO volunteering to coordinate with the Rio > Convention & Visitors > > bureau on behalf of cs types, for suitable > accommodations and logistics > > ie transport? Any other volunteers? > > > > Or should we just be assiuming the un will worry > about us all as much > > as it and the Brazilian govt does the official > main stage event and > > hotel? : ) > > > > Lee > > > > Prof. Lee W. McKnight > > School of Information Studies > > Syracuse University > > +1-315-443-6891office > > +1-315-278-4392 mobile > > > >>>> "Daniella Pedras" > 3/13/2007 5:13 PM > >>>> > > > > Dear Dr. McKnight, > > > > > > The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau was thrilled > and honoured to learn > > that the City of Rio de Janeiro will host the IGP > Conference in 2008. > > > > > > > > The Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau is a private > non profit Foundation > > that promotes Rio de Janeiro with a membership of > about 120 companies in > > the tourist industry > (http://www.rioconventionbureau.com.br - select > > ABOUT RCVB and CORPORATE MEMBERS and find the > member categories). > > > > Rio de Janeiro is a great choice as a location for > meetings. Its > > infrastructure includes a perfect airline > connection for the whole > > world, an international airport with capacity for > 520 flights per day, > > distant only 20 minutes from main hotels, around > 24.000 hotel rooms, > > many of which with convention centers. And then > of course we have the > > city itself with its tropical resort atmosphere, > curving beaches, > > mountains and forests, good weather, wonderful > scenery, an active > > cultural environment, large choice of restaurants > and world class > > shopping at competitive prices and a warm and > friendly people. > > > > Concerning services if you wish we can put you in > contact with our > > member suppliers (travel agencies, professional > organizers, hotels, > > catering, etc.) > > > > Could you inform us name, title and estimative of > participants of the > > event ? As we have a calendar of events in our web > site we would like to > > include it.. > > > > We are at your disposal for any further > information, > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Daniella Pedras > > Congresses & Events Department > > Rio Convention & Visitors Bureau > > (55 21) 22 59 61 65 > > daniellapedras at rcvb.com.brr > > www.rcvb.com.br > > > > "Great Cities deserve great events: Pan American > games 2007 - Rio de > > Janeiro" > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the > list: > > governance at lists.cpsr.org > > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > > > For all list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > > > > > > -- > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Carlos A. Afonso > diretor de planejamento > Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor - Rits > http://www.rits.org.br > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the > list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > Pastor Peters OMORAGBON Executive President/CEO Nurses Across the Borders Humanitarian Initiative-Inc.-(Nigeria & U.S.A) An NGO On Special Consultative Status with The Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-(ECOSOC) Member(OBSERVER),United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) 295, IKORODU ROAD, IDIROKO BUS STOP MARYLAND IKEJA LAGOS NIGERIA 350, MAIN STREET, EAST ORANGE NEW JERSEY 07018 U.S.A Tel:+234-1-812-8649, +234-1-818-6494,+234-802-308-5408(Mobile) FAX:+234-1-493-7203 Email:nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com URL: www.nursesacrosstheborders.4t.com ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From LMcKnigh at syr.edu Wed Mar 28 12:53:01 2007 From: LMcKnigh at syr.edu (Lee McKnight) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:53:01 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 Message-ID: So Carlos has agreed to be lead liason for cs to our hosts, ie the Rio tourist office - right Carlos? And while I personally would love IGP to plan on returning to Brazil again in 2008, all I know about is 2007, IGF, giganet etc. I thought I had read on the list that there was a plan to run shuttle buses to Ipanema and back, Carlos you will also figure the transport and liaise with Kummer et al and the brailiazn govt about that too right? ) And get Lula to pick up the tab for cs's hotel/conference facility, for gigianet ii, the cs meeting etc? ; ) Or can Antonio get us a good deal on suitable (but cheap) meeting spaces at PUC-Rio? Lee Prof. Lee W. McKnight School of Information Studies Syracuse University +1-315-443-6891office +1-315-278-4392 mobile >>> karenb at gn.apc.org 3/28/2007 10:29 AM >>> hi bill and all >A CS meeting is a good idea. One consideration on timing---we expect to >hold the second GigaNet symposium on the day prior to the IGF, the 11th, and >if the Athens symposium is any indicator, presumably a lot of CS/academic >types would want to be able to attend that. If it were possible to do the >CS meeting on the 10th, that would avoid any conflict. Just a thought... we would also support a CS meeting.. in response to bill's note about giganet and timing - i can see we're going to have some challenges ;).. carlos and i met here in lisbon to discuss the APC council meeting (which we'll hold prior to the IGF nov 2-9) which we will then follow with a one day public event on low cost connectivity/access - as an IGF pre event, that will also feed into the agenda proper (somehow) that is scheduled for Nov 10th - and i really wouldn't like for that to clash with a general CS event - that said, i know no-one wants to have events clashing, but not sure what options we have we all want to make the most of the IGF event in several (connected) ways - but, i don't think we can hold events much earlier than the 10th (and get folks attending who are attending the IGF) - we may have to live with some cross-over - but the earlier we can talk specifics, the better.. to ensure we all can make the most of the various opportunities having all events in the one place for example, would be a good start.. karen ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From sylvia.caras at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:18:44 2007 From: sylvia.caras at gmail.com (Sylvia Caras) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:18:44 -0700 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do realize some of you don't make travel arrangements until the last minute. However, I already have blocked off the time and have air tickets to arrive Saturday night. For we who plan ahead, use air and hotel awards and discount deals, ... next time, can we schedule the add-ons as soon as the dates are announced for the actual meeting? It would not have been a problem to add extra days when I was making the arrangements in December. Now there are penalties. Sylvia ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From wsis at ngocongo.org Wed Mar 28 15:27:00 2007 From: wsis at ngocongo.org (CONGO WSIS - Philippe Dam) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:27:00 +0200 Subject: [governance] Up date on CS participation in ITU activities Message-ID: <200703281926.l2SJQPHI029680@smtp2.infomaniak.ch> Dear all, This is to inform you that, in the follow up to the adoption by the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference of Resolution 141 - Study on the participation of all relevant stakeholders in the activities of the Union related to the World Summit on the Information Society (also here attached), we have been approached by the ITU Secretariat to kick-start a process of consultation with civil society entities. This resolution, recognising the need to enhance the participation of WSIS stakeholders in the ITU, provided: - the conduct of a study on the participation of all relevant stakeholders in the activities of the ITU related to WSIS - the creation of a Working Group of the ITU Council to perform this study and to propose some reform on the basis of that study. The terms of reference and the mandate of this working group are included in the annex to resolution 141. This Working Group will be composed of ITU member states – with mention that their delegations may include appropriate legal, technical and regulatory experts – and will conduct open consultations. This Working Group is expected to start meeting on 15 June 2007. In implementing ITU Resolution 141, the ITU Secretariat took up the following steps: • Establishing the webpage of the Working Group of the Council on Resolution 141: http://www.itu.int/council/groups/stakeholders/ • On line call for written contributions for all stakeholders, as indicated on the previous page: all contributions will be made public. There is no deadline for submission at the moment. Written contributions should be sent to: ITU-Stakeholders at itu.int. • Establishing a webpage on the ITU sources on civil society: http://www.itu.int/council/groups/stakeholders/resources.html • Organisation on 18 May 2007 (10:00-13:00) at the ITU, in the framework of the WSIS related cluster of events, of an Informal consultation between ITU and civil society in which the ITU SG Hamadoun Touré will participate, as well as probably delegations of the two countries in charge of facilitating the work of the Working Group. More information will be circulated soon on this meeting. 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March 28, 2007 The Editors, Daily, Saturday and Sunday Papers Sir, >From March 22-24 2007, more than 250 Civil Society representatives of the African Civil Society representing over 150 NGOs from 32 Countries of the 5 African Regions and 4 from other regions of the world, gathered together at the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa Secretariat in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia to brainstorm on the roles of the African Civil Society on: DEMOCRATIZING GOVERNANCE AT THE REGIONAL AND GLOBAL LEVEL TO ACHIEVE THE MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS-MDGs. This forum was convened by the Conference of NGOS in Consultative Relationship with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations – CONGO together with the African Women’s Development and Communication NETWORK (FEMNET) and in cooperation with the Economic Commission for Africa and the Africa Union AU. The event was attended by a representative of the UN Secretary General-Ban Ki-Moon, Abduoulie Janeh, United Nations Under Secretary General and ECA Executive Secretary, His Excellency Patrick Mazinka Deputy Chairperson AU Commission, Ambassador Malidi Ahmed Gadid-Ethiopian Government Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dr. Renate Bloem, President CONGO and Mama Koite, President FEMNET, both co –conveners of the epoch making events. So many individuals, intellectuals and Civil Society Organizations from Nigeria were fully represented. Nurses Across the Borders Humanitarian Initiative-an NGO on Special Consultative Relationship with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations, was the ONLY Nigerian NGO with such status in attendance. Issues discussed were far reaching from Peace and Human Security in Africa, to Trade, Finance, Debt Relief & Investment and the formal Launching of the Regional Network for Africa of the Global Alliance for ICT and Development-GAID, to HIV/AIDS as a threat to Peace and Security. Nurses Across the Borders Humanitarian Initiative as represented by the Executive President/CEO-Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON presented a Paper on one of the Thematic Issues for Discussion under PEACE AND SECURITY titled: ACHIEVING PEACE AND HUMAN SECURITY THROUGH DIVERSITY MANAGEMENT. At the end of the Sessions all the reports of the various sessions were presented to the full Plenary with resolutions adopted. It was proposed by Nurses Across the Borders without ANY objection that Nigeria host the 2nd African Civil Society Forum. To this end I hereby attach herewith copies of the PRESS RELEASE from CONGO Secretariat in Geneva flowing from the end of this event, OFFICIAL LIST of all participants and the Paper presented by Nurses Across the Borders on ACHIEVING PEACE AND SECURITY THROUGH DIVERSITY MAMGEMENT. A Nigeria STAKEHOLDERS meeting as follow-up to this Forum will hold in May 2007, to disseminate information gathered and knowledge learnt to other Civil Society Organizations in Nigeria and set up an Ad-hoc Preparatory Committee for the hosting of the 2nd African Civil Society Forum in Nigeria. It is our sincere desire that your medium will support these lofty ideals and efforts of the African Civil Society by giving this publications the widest of coverage/publicity. Thanking you in anticipation: For: And on behalf of African Civil Society/CONGO Nigeria Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON Alumnas -OSI-LGI/MNCP Budapest Executive President/CEO Nurses Across the Borders Humanitarian Initiative Inc Nig. / USA NGO on Special Consultative Relationship with UN ECOSOC 295 Ikorodu Road, Idiroko Bus Stop, Maryland, Ikeja Lagos 359 Main Street, East Orange, New Jersey 07018 USA Member, United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change-UNFCCC Member, Lagos State Agency for HIV/AIDS Control-LSACA Tel: 234-1-8751945, 8128649, 802-308-5408 –Nigeria 1.908-468-1489, 908-447-5746-USA FAX: 234-1-4937203, 1-973 Pastor Peters OMORAGBON Executive President/CEO Nurses Across the Borders Humanitarian Initiative-Inc.-(Nigeria & U.S.A) An NGO On Special Consultative Status with The Economic and Social Council of the United Nations-(ECOSOC) Member(OBSERVER),United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) 295, IKORODU ROAD, IDIROKO BUS STOP MARYLAND IKEJA LAGOS NIGERIA 350, MAIN STREET, EAST ORANGE NEW JERSEY 07018 U.S.A Tel:+234-1-812-8649, +234-1-818-6494,+234-802-308-5408(Mobile) FAX:+234-1-493-7203 Email:nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com URL: www.nursesacrosstheborders.4t.com ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Press_Release_AfCSF_2007_E[1].doc Type: application/msword Size: 442368 bytes Desc: 3922912533-Press_Release_AfCSF_2007_E[1].doc URL: From ca at rits.org.br Thu Mar 29 04:45:00 2007 From: ca at rits.org.br (carlos a. afonso) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:45:00 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not really, Lee, as I was not asked by the constituency to do so. I have just conveyed an idea which has been considered by Brazilian CS organizations with the initial support of APC. I am aware of the Giganet meeting and the importance of their members also participating in a possible CS meeting. In conversations I got a positive reaction from the UN organizers side -- no problem in doing it at the venue, as long as is not in parallel with the main meeting. So, regarding dates, we will have to work this out with Giganet and APC. We do not want to interfere with Giganet and with the APC low cost connectivity workshop (which is on Nov.10th). fraternal regards --c.a. -----Original Message----- From: "Lee McKnight" To: , "William Drake" , "Governance" , "Carlos Afonso" Cc: "Antonio Botelho" , Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:53:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: Conference of the Internet Governance Project 2008 > So Carlos has agreed to be lead liason for cs to our hosts, ie the > Rio > tourist office - right Carlos? > > And while I personally would love IGP to plan on returning to Brazil > again in 2008, all I know about is 2007, IGF, giganet etc. > > I thought I had read on the list that there was a plan to run shuttle > buses to Ipanema and back, Carlos you will also figure the transport > and > liaise with Kummer et al and the brailiazn govt about that too right? > ) > > > And get Lula to pick up the tab for cs's hotel/conference facility, > for > gigianet ii, the cs meeting etc? ; ) Or can Antonio get us a good > deal > on suitable (but cheap) meeting spaces at PUC-Rio? > > Lee > > Prof. Lee W. McKnight > School of Information Studies > Syracuse University > +1-315-443-6891office > +1-315-278-4392 mobile > > >>> karenb at gn.apc.org 3/28/2007 10:29 AM >>> > hi bill and all > > >A CS meeting is a good idea. One consideration on timing---we > expect > to > >hold the second GigaNet symposium on the day prior to the IGF, the > 11th, and > >if the Athens symposium is any indicator, presumably a lot of > CS/academic > >types would want to be able to attend that. If it were possible to > do > the > >CS meeting on the 10th, that would avoid any conflict. Just a > thought... > > we would also support a CS meeting.. > > in response to bill's note about giganet and timing - i can see > we're going to have some challenges ;).. > > carlos and i met here in lisbon to discuss the APC council meeting > (which we'll hold prior to the IGF nov 2-9) > > which we will then follow with a one day public event on low cost > connectivity/access - as an IGF pre event, that will also feed into > the agenda proper (somehow) > > that is scheduled for Nov 10th - and i really wouldn't like for that > to clash with a general CS event - that said, i know no-one wants to > have events clashing, but not sure what options we have > > we all want to make the most of the IGF event in several (connected) > ways - but, i don't think we can hold events much earlier than the > 10th (and get folks attending who are attending the IGF) - we may > have to live with some cross-over - but the earlier we can talk > specifics, the better.. to ensure we all can make the most of the > various opportunities > > having all events in the one place for example, would be a good > start.. > > karen > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From pouzin at well.com Thu Mar 29 22:07:13 2007 From: pouzin at well.com (Louis Pouzin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] Statement for the Feb 13 meeting Message-ID: <200703300207.l2U27D2P022800@muse.enst.fr> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:16:44 +0100, Avri Doria wrote: >the 46 listed on the web site include the 6 regional members and they were just blended into the advisory group list. that plus the 6 special advisers ma 52de. Hi Avri, Who is the 6th special adviser ? The list mentions 5: http://www.intgovforum.org/ADG_members_chairs_Adv.htm Best ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From nyangkweagien at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 04:47:24 2007 From: nyangkweagien at gmail.com (Nyangkwe Agien Aaron) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:47:24 +0100 Subject: [governance] Statement for the Feb 13 meeting In-Reply-To: <200703300207.l2U27D2P022800@muse.enst.fr> References: <200703300207.l2U27D2P022800@muse.enst.fr> Message-ID: Dear Avri I agree with Louis and please can you clarify as here are the 5 names as found on the link provided Advisory Group - Special Advisers to the Chair Kleinwächter, Wolfgang Aarhus - Professor, International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Kurbalija, Jovan Geneva/La Valetta - Director, DiploFoundation Miloshevic, Desiree London - Afilias, ISOC Board Member Sadowsky, George Stamford, CT - Executive Director, Global Internet Policy Initiative Shaw, Heather New York - Director, International Telecommunications and Information Policy, United States Council for International Business WHO IS THEREFORE THE SIXTH PERSON Best regards from Aaron On 3/30/07, Louis Pouzin wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:16:44 +0100, Avri Doria wrote: > > >the 46 listed on the web site include the 6 regional members and they were just blended into the advisory group list. that plus the 6 special advisers ma 52de. > > Hi Avri, > > Who is the 6th special adviser ? The list mentions 5: > http://www.intgovforum.org/ADG_members_chairs_Adv.htm > > Best > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > -- Aaron Agien Nyangkwe Journalist/Outcome Mapper Special Assistant To The President ASAFE P.O.Box 5213 Douala-Cameroon Tel. 237 337 50 22 Fax. 237 342 29 70 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From avri at psg.com Fri Mar 30 05:30:07 2007 From: avri at psg.com (Avri Doria) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:30:07 +0100 Subject: [governance] Statement for the Feb 13 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <200703300207.l2U27D2P022800@muse.enst.fr> Message-ID: i must be wrong. i will confirm that and get back to you. a. On 30 mar 2007, at 09.47, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote: > Dear Avri > > I agree with Louis and please can you clarify as here are the 5 names > as found on the link provided > Advisory Group - Special Advisers to the Chair > Kleinwächter, Wolfgang > Aarhus - Professor, International Communication Policy and Regulation, > University of Aarhus > > Kurbalija, Jovan > Geneva/La Valetta - Director, DiploFoundation > > Miloshevic, Desiree > London - Afilias, ISOC Board Member > > Sadowsky, George > Stamford, CT - Executive Director, Global Internet Policy Initiative > > Shaw, Heather > New York - Director, International Telecommunications and Information > Policy, United States Council for International Business > > > WHO IS THEREFORE THE SIXTH PERSON > > Best regards from > Aaron > > On 3/30/07, Louis Pouzin wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:16:44 +0100, Avri Doria wrote: >> >> >the 46 listed on the web site include the 6 regional members and >> they were just blended into the advisory group list. that plus the >> 6 special advisers ma 52de. >> >> Hi Avri, >> >> Who is the 6th special adviser ? The list mentions 5: >> http://www.intgovforum.org/ADG_members_chairs_Adv.htm >> >> Best >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.cpsr.org >> To be removed from the list, send any message to: >> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org >> >> For all list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> > > > -- > Aaron Agien Nyangkwe > Journalist/Outcome Mapper > Special Assistant To The President > ASAFE > P.O.Box 5213 > Douala-Cameroon > Tel. 237 337 50 22 > Fax. 237 342 29 70 > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > > For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From wsis at ngocongo.org Fri Mar 30 12:21:58 2007 From: wsis at ngocongo.org (CONGO WSIS - Philippe Dam) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:21:58 +0200 Subject: [governance] TR: Request for dispatch of letters to WSIS civil society stakeholders Message-ID: <200703301621.l2UGLNUU009351@smtp2.infomaniak.ch> For your information, we just received what follows from the ITU. Both of interest for those who are involved in Action line Facilitation process and internet governance. All the best, Philippe _____ De : SPUMail at itu.int [mailto:SPUMail at itu.int] Envoyé : vendredi, 30. mars 2007 11:36 À : 'ramin.kaweh at unctad.org'; 'rbloem at ngocongo.org'; 'wsis at ngocongo.org' Objet : Request for dispatch of letters to WSIS civil society stakeholders Please find attached two letters addressed to all WSIS stakeholders: 1) An invitation and agenda to the 2nd Facilitation Meeting on WSIS Action Line (C5): Building confidence and security in the use of ICTs, being held from 14-15 May 2007, at ITU Headquarters, Geneva, Switzerland. 2) A consultation questionnaire on Resolution 102 (Rev. Antalya, 2006): ITU’s Role with regard to international public policy issues pertaining to the internet and the management of internet resources, including domain names and addresses. We would appreciate it if they could be sent by CONGO to all civil society WSIS stakeholders. 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Name: message-footer.txt URL: From jeanette at wz-berlin.de Fri Mar 30 14:02:56 2007 From: jeanette at wz-berlin.de (Jeanette Hofmann) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:02:56 +0200 Subject: [governance] public consultation for Rio on May 23 Message-ID: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> Hi everyone, the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for preparing the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the consultation is the agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. The consultation will take place in Geneva at the ITU on 23 May. Contributions as input into the discussions are welcome. The secretariat is working on a paper on a draft programme/agenda outline which should be available on its website in the second half of April. So, the caucus should perhaps start discussing potential contributions to the consultation. Jeanette ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From karenb at gn.apc.org Fri Mar 30 19:59:59 2007 From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:59:59 +0100 Subject: [governance] public consultation for Rio on May 23 In-Reply-To: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> References: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> Message-ID: <20070330235958.5896419AA2F@mail.gn.apc.org> hi jeanette and when will the MAG meet? karen At 19:02 30/03/2007, Jeanette Hofmann wrote: >Hi everyone, > >the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for >preparing the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the >consultation is the agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. > >The consultation will take place in Geneva at the ITU on 23 May. >Contributions as input into the discussions are welcome. > >The secretariat is working on a paper on a draft programme/agenda >outline which should be available on its website in the second half of April. > >So, the caucus should perhaps start discussing potential >contributions to the consultation. > >Jeanette >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, send any message to: > governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org > >For all list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From vb at bertola.eu Sat Mar 31 06:37:33 2007 From: vb at bertola.eu (Vittorio Bertola) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:37:33 +0200 Subject: [governance] public consultation for Rio on May 23 In-Reply-To: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> References: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> Message-ID: <460E39ED.8000900@bertola.eu> Jeanette Hofmann ha scritto: > Hi everyone, > > the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for preparing > the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the consultation is the > agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. Just for clarification - what is the difference with the agenda ofthe February consultation? Was there any specific decision made between then and now, for example about the main themes, or the format? Otherwise we might start with the contribution from February and repeat the relevant points from there, perhaps adding more detail if necessary. Thanks, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From jeanette at wz-berlin.de Sat Mar 31 08:11:46 2007 From: jeanette at wz-berlin.de (Jeanette Hofmann) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:11:46 +0200 Subject: [governance] public consultation for Rio on May 23 In-Reply-To: <20070330235958.5896419AA2F@mail.gn.apc.org> References: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> <20070330235958.5896419AA2F@mail.gn.apc.org> Message-ID: <460E5002.90009@wz-berlin.de> Hi Karen and Vittorio, the advisory group is expected to meet afterwards on May 24 and 25. Its a bit preliminary though since the secretariat needs to get final confirmation from New York. As far as the purpose is concerned, my understanding is that the open consultation in February had more of a stock taking character to find out what people liked and what they disliked about the Athen's meeting. As Robin has already reported, the secretariat understood that the general format was well received. So, the four sessions will most likely remain, just the order could change. There also be an open call for workshops again. However, it could be that the secretariat together with the advisory group also organizes a few workshops. This hasn't been decided yet and could be a point of discussion in May. I think it would be good to take into account the secretariat's paper. It might address issues the caucus wants to pick up. jeanette karen banks wrote: > hi jeanette > > and when will the MAG meet? > > karen > > At 19:02 30/03/2007, Jeanette Hofmann wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for preparing >> the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the consultation is the >> agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. >> >> The consultation will take place in Geneva at the ITU on 23 May. >> Contributions as input into the discussions are welcome. >> >> The secretariat is working on a paper on a draft programme/agenda >> outline which should be available on its website in the second half of >> April. >> >> So, the caucus should perhaps start discussing potential contributions >> to the consultation. >> >> Jeanette >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.cpsr.org >> To be removed from the list, send any message to: >> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org >> >> For all list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From karenb at gn.apc.org Sat Mar 31 08:10:13 2007 From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:10:13 +0100 Subject: [governance] public consultation for Rio on May 23 In-Reply-To: <460E5002.90009@wz-berlin.de> References: <460D50D0.4050700@wz-berlin.de> <20070330235958.5896419AA2F@mail.gn.apc.org> <460E5002.90009@wz-berlin.de> Message-ID: <20070331121019.7CBD019B51B@mail.gn.apc.org> hi jeanette thanks.. we're trying to find the best date for the launch of the APC/IteM Global IS watch report.. we're leaning towards may 22nd - but 24th was also an option.. karen At 13:11 31/03/2007, Jeanette Hofmann wrote: >Hi Karen and Vittorio, > >the advisory group is expected to meet afterwards on May 24 and 25. >Its a bit preliminary though since the secretariat needs to get >final confirmation from New York. > >As far as the purpose is concerned, my understanding is that the >open consultation in February had more of a stock taking character >to find out what people liked and what they disliked about the Athen's meeting. > >As Robin has already reported, the secretariat understood that the >general format was well received. So, the four sessions will most >likely remain, just the order could change. >There also be an open call for workshops again. However, it could be >that the secretariat together with the advisory group also organizes >a few workshops. This hasn't been decided yet and could be a point >of discussion in May. >I think it would be good to take into account the secretariat's >paper. It might address issues the caucus wants to pick up. > >jeanette > > > >karen banks wrote: >>hi jeanette >>and when will the MAG meet? >>karen >>At 19:02 30/03/2007, Jeanette Hofmann wrote: >> >>>Hi everyone, >>> >>>the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for >>>preparing the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the >>>consultation is the agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. >>> >>>The consultation will take place in Geneva at the ITU on 23 May. >>>Contributions as input into the discussions are welcome. >>> >>>The secretariat is working on a paper on a draft programme/agenda >>>outline which should be available on its website in the second half of April. >>> >>>So, the caucus should perhaps start discussing potential >>>contributions to the consultation. >>> >>>Jeanette >>>____________________________________________________________ >>>You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.cpsr.org >>>To be removed from the list, send any message to: >>> governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org >>> >>>For all list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance From shailam at yahoo.com Sat Mar 31 14:25:11 2007 From: shailam at yahoo.com (shaila mistry) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Live Web cast ? public consultation for Rio on May 23 In-Reply-To: <460E39ED.8000900@bertola.eu> Message-ID: <20070331182511.75101.qmail@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone Is there any way that we can participate in the Rio consultation on May 23 via technology. Either by discussions before hand or by web cast live or recorded Shaila Rao Mistry IFUW Vittorio Bertola wrote: Jeanette Hofmann ha scritto: > Hi everyone, > > the IGF secretariat plans to hold a public consultation for preparing > the next forum meeting this year. Subject of the consultation is the > agenda and the programme for the Rio de Janeiro meeting. Just for clarification - what is the difference with the agenda ofthe February consultation? Was there any specific decision made between then and now, for example about the main themes, or the format? Otherwise we might start with the contribution from February and repeat the relevant points from there, perhaps adding more detail if necessary. Thanks, -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <-------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, send any message to: governance-unsubscribe at lists.cpsr.org For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance If you want something .you’ve never had before ........ Do something .............you’ve never done before........... !! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: message-footer.txt URL: