[governance] Re: IG questions that are not ICANN [was: Irony]

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

It effectively has expanded to a broad interest in cybercrime - though the
limiting factor is that the government / international org actors there are
all focused on civil, not criminal enforcement.

However, criminal law enforcement organizations do show up at conferences
organized by these stakeholders, and most of the stakeholders routinely
interact with them at various levels.

	srs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:28 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Suresh Ramasubramanian'
> Cc: 'George Sadowsky'; 'Alejandro Pisanty'; 'Jacqueline A. Morris'
> Subject: RE: [governance] Re: IG questions that are not ICANN [was:
> Irony]
> 
> Thanks for the links Suresh - the botnet project looks interesting.
> 
> Do you thing the spam dynamic coalition should expand to cybercrime or
> should we be looking at something else? There seem to be a lot of
> common participants and interest groups...
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh at hserus.net]
> Sent: 03 December 2007 11:21
> To: Ian Peter
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'George Sadowsky'; 'Alejandro Pisanty';
> 'Jacqueline A. Morris'
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: IG questions that are not ICANN [was:
> Irony]
> 
> Ian Peter [03/12/07 06:41 +1100]:
> 
> >So I think we come to some sort of multistakeholder structure not yet
> in
> >existence. I must say that in Rio I went to the cybercrime convention
> >organized by Council of Europe (the only session devoted entirely to
> >cybercrime) and left 45 minutes after the advertised starting time
> when the
> >session had not yet got underway.
> 
> Please dont judge CoE by that. Rio and Athens had their share of
> logistics
> issues, that's a known fact. Their convention [1] has a great deal of
> potential and [2] has several countries already signed up to it, and
> other
> countries actively looking to ratify it in the near future.
> 
> >Is this an area for another dynamic coalition to get things moving?
> The ITU
> >pamphlet on this is a nice glossy with a good high level strategy, but
> I
> >think some complementary action (with their involvement if possible)
> might
> >be productive.
> 
> Stopspamalliance was created as antispam but is increasingly focused on
> cybercrime. And it includes several key stakeholders in the cybercrime
> and
> spam issues. Joining it would be a good idea.
> 
> >Just to give a quick outline of the ITU goals here, they cover
> >Model cybercrime legislation
> >Organizational structures
> >Security criteria and accreditation of software applications and
> systems
> >Surveillance and incident response
> >Universal digital identity system
> >Capacity building
> >International co-operation.
> 
> My botnet project covers mainly capacity building and intl cooperation
> but
> spans quite a few of the others (e&oe the word "universal" - I am a
> more
> "here and now" kind of person).
> 
> Again, this is one (of a few other) practical implementations of these
> ideas that are in progress.  For another one, please see
> http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/cyb/cybersecurity/projects/readiness.html
> 
> Back to the botnet toolkit, again, the project URL is
> http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/cyb/cybersecurity/projects/botnet.html
> 
> If anybody here has operational suggestions on how best you can
> contribute
> to this (I know Guru has read the paper, and presumably liked it,
> judging
> from his initial comments) - please feel free to email me, or send your
> comments to the ITU project address cybmail at itu.int
> 
> In particular - ITU has two pilots at a nationwide level scheduled for
> the
> botnet toolkit in 2008, the first being in Malaysia, in 1Q08.
> 
> I met quite a few stakeholders in Malaysia from govt / industry / the
> technical community, but only some civ soc (a local professor who is
> active
> in the regional research networking / v6 community, a couple of people
> who
> ran the HackInTheBox conference in Malaysia, etc). If you know any
> potential stakeholders in this (in particular ICT access / capacity
> building organizations active in Malaysia) that I have not met please
> feel
> free to email me offlist.
> 
> thanks
> srs
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