[governance] Update on voting for charter
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Fri Sep 29 05:56:39 EDT 2006
Jeanette got it right below, but I have to add a couple more factors
In an age where electronic voting is being promoted as an enabling
democractic option for national elections, and when I have just completed a
national census online with a very simple interface,
THIS HAS BEEN AN UNBELIEVABLY COMPLEX PROCESS!
Software is a mile above the functionality we have been asked to deal with.
WE HAVE BEEN OBSESSED WITH PROCESS
The process we have been through has only been exceeded in Internet history
by the excesses of the ICANN Whois debates and the odd esoteric IETF debate.
Less than a month out from IGF this list has been dominated with process
rather than substance.
That being said, my last shout is
PLEASE VOTE NOW
Because we have to move on from here, and if like me to date we all hang off
from voting in the next few days because of frustration with the process we
only go backwards and have to start again. (which, believe it or not, would
be worse).
Our only way forward is to agree on a process and elect some coordinators.
LETS DO IT (oops, promised not to shout any more)
Ian Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wz-berlin.de]
Sent: 29 September 2006 18:12
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Avri Doria
Subject: Re: [governance] Update on voting for charter
Hi,
the problem we are facing with reaching the quorum I think reflects the
double function of this list. As I have suggested before, many
subscribers of this list are here not because they regard themselves as
members of the caucus but because they want to follow and at times
contribute to our debates on Internet Governance. The number of
subscribers who see themselves as proper members of the caucus is
probably much smaller. The problem with the quorum is that it cannot
distinguish between these two groups of subscribers and thus reflects
all of them.
Should we not reach the quorum I would suggest that as a next step we
try to find out who actually belongs to the caucus by asking people to
identify themselves as members.
However, having looked at the voters list yesterday I must say that
there still are quite a few who I would definitely categorize as caucus
members and who havn't got around to vote. Its amazing how very busy the
Internet Governance crowd is...
jeanette
Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Only 4 days left and 20 people shy of quorum!
>
> If you haven't voted, please do so soon (before end of day 2 October).
> If any of your friends haven't voted yet, please remind them personally
> to vote.
>
> If we don't meet quorum on this vote as defined in the proposed
> charter, then the last few months of work will be lost and the caucus
> will essentially need to start the process anew. Personally I think it
> is time to elect real coordinators and to get on with the real work of
> this caucus.
>
> thanks.
> a.
>
>
>
> -
>
> Reminder on how to vote:
>
> This a 4 part ballot open until the end of day 2 Oct 2006
>
> To vote:
> - send plain text email to: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> - with the correct subject (shown below)
> - with the proper command (shown below)
>
> 1. Base charter
>
> Subject: IGC Charter vote
>
> --->if you support the charter then your message body should look like:
> eVote yes
>
> -->if you do not support the charter then your message body should look
> like:
> eVote no
>
> ---------------------------
> 2. Is voting open or closed
>
> Subject: igc voting style
>
> --> if you support that all voting be by secret vote then your message
> body should look like:
> eVote
> 1. y
>
> --> if you support open voting with the option of a closed vote then
> your message body should look like:
> eVote
> 2. y
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> 3. How is the IGC Appeals team selected
>
> Subject: IGC Appeals Team vote
>
> --> if you support using a nominating committee process to select the
> appeals team then your message body should look like:
> eVote
> 1. y
>
> --> if you support using a voting process to select the appeals team
> then your message body should look like:
> eVote
> 2. y
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
>
> 4. How does the IGC pick its nominees for other bodies, e.g. the IGF
> advisory group
>
> Subject: IGC Nominations vote
>
> --> if you support using a nominating committee process to select the
> slates of nominees then your message body should look like:
> eVote
> 1. y
>
> --> if you support using a voting process to select the nominees then
> your message body should look like:
> eVote
> 2. y
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Note it is important that the message body be
> - plain text
> - eVote is the first word in the first line with no characters, not
> even spaces, proceeding it
> - for those cases [2-4] where there is a second line of the message
> -- the number must be the first character in the second line
> -- there must be a space between the period and the y
>
> Also note, that you can check on the status of the vote with: eVote info
> and that you can change your vote any time until the vote closes by
> voting again
>
> For the adventurous: there are more things you do, to find out what
> send a message:
> eVote help
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> ---------------------------------
> ---------------------------------
> Examples of the messages one sends
>
> A participant in the caucus wrote and asked for a more explicit
> 'dummies guide to voting in the IGC'. Since I created one for that
> purpose, I figure I might as well append it for anyone interested in
> explicit directions.
>
>
> You send 4 different plain text messages.
> The message must start on the first line, i.e. no spaces or carriage
> returns at the top of the message
>
> In the following examples, lines that start with -- are not part of the
> message you send, they are dividers or instructions.
>
> Note the line with end is not absolutely necessary, but if it is there,
> then you will be safe if your email application inserts junk at the end
> of the message, e.g those lengthy IP statement some companies have or
> those ads that some web email appends.
>
> --
> -- email 1.
> --
>
> -- if you approve of the charter:
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Charter vote
> eVote yes
> end
>
> -- if you don't approve of the charter
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Charter vote
> eVote no
> end
>
> --
> -- email 2:
> --
>
> -- If you think that all voting should be secret
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: igc voting style
> eVote
> 1. y
> end
>
> -- If you think that all voting should be open with the possibility of
> a closed vote
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: igc voting style
> eVote
> 2. y
> end
>
> --
> -- email 3.
> --
>
> -- If you think that the appeals team should be selected by a nomcom
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Appeals Team vote
> eVote
> 1. y
> end
>
> -- If you think that the appeals teams should be selected by voting
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Appeals Team vote
> eVote
> 2. y
> end
>
> --
> -- email 4.
> --
>
> -- If you think nominees to other bodies, such as IGF AG should be done
> by a Nomcom
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Nominations vote
> eVote
> 1. y
> end
>
> -- If you think that nominees to other bodfies, such as IGF AG should
> be done by voting
>
> To: igc-voters at igcaucus.org
> Subject: IGC Nominations vote
> eVote
> 2. y
> end
>
> --
> -- end of examples
> --
>
> As always please let me know about any difficulties you may experience.
>
> thanks
> a.
>
>
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