[governance] Program for IGC at IGF

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Sun Oct 22 09:29:56 EDT 2006


Definitely it's a difference on definitions.


At 09:01 AM 22.10.2006 '?.'Ъ▄Ж  -0400, you wrote:
>Avri,
>
>Let's look at access policy _within_ a country, 
>e.g. licensing of ISPs, decisions with regard to 
>ISP liability, monopoly telecomm carriers, 
>not-level playing fields, licensing of ISPs, 
>licensing of wireless frequencies and 
>devices.  etc.  These are all issues of national policy.
>
>It may be that international best practices can 
>provide good guidelines, but these are more 
>likely to be de facto standards set by industry 
>than the result of intergovernmental action.
>
>Perhaps we have different definitions of policy.
>
>George
>
>At 12:04 AM +0200 10/22/06, Avri Doria wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>On 21 okt 2006, at 21.11, George Sadowsky wrote:
>>
>>>What I am reacting to is what I observe is the 
>>>conventional wisdom that I find faulty: that 
>>>Internet governance and related Internet 
>>>issues are essentially international in character,
>>
>>
>>I disagree. I think it is only on the 
>>international stage that governance and other 
>>Internet issues can be dealt.  I don't believe 
>>that it is up to governments to do it though i 
>>do see them having some role.  i don't believe 
>>there is is any right of nations to make policy 
>>vis a vis the Internet.  They may do so, and 
>>they even get away with it at the moment, but i 
>>think we lose a major battle the second we 
>>start to believe that they have some _right_ to 
>>do so.  I tend to view the IGF and other 
>>international, but not intergovernemental, 
>>organizations as a bulwark against the 
>>continuing nationalization of the Internet.
>>
>>>that wanted to emasculate ICANN
>>
>>interesting image, but i do not see what being 
>>masculine, or having masculine external 
>>attributes, has to do with being an effective 
>>international organization.  not that i am 
>>prepared to argue that the current ICANN 
>>incarnation is particularly effective, though i 
>>think that has more to do with its form of 
>>governance and its lack of freedom from national and other government pressure.
>>
>>a.
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