[governance] igc nomcom and other lists

Wed Mar 29 05:49:26 EST 2006

Dear Renate,

You wrote :

My question: why should this nomcom only be an IGC nomcom and not include
other
CS groupings?

Just a quick rationale, not prejudging what others including Avri might
say :
- there is no unanimous agreement yet among all CS groupings for a unified
procedure or even for a nomcom procedure : some groups would like to
recommend candidates on their own, and they should. As Avri stated, the
procedure set up by the IGC will only recommend candidates on behalf of the
IGC, which is only one stakeholders group among others in civil society;
- on the other hand, the call for candidates for the MAG is open to all CS
actors through the Plenary list; as we are entering a phase where substance
of policy issues will be adressed in the IGF, and hopefully in the working
groups (or discussion groups) it will generate, the input from thematic
caucuses beyond the IGC alone is important and I suppose the nomcom will
take this into account.

In that respect, I am aware - and can still feel the burning in my flesh
:-)) that, to say it mildly, not eveyone was OK with the selection process
for the WGIG. I am the first to admit it was a first rough try, done
hastily, certainly not perfect and lessons can be drawn from its
limitations. But it established for the first time the principle that CS has
a say in the selection of the members of such small gorups (task forces,
advisory groups, et...) which was not the case for traditional UN processes
(see the TFFM).

Building on this first experience, this time is an opportunity to
improve two dimensions at least :
- the transparency of the selection process for the nomcom : and I think
Avri's mechanism is a very good answer on that point
- the criteria to be used by the nomcom for selecting recommended candidates
: there, input should be given by everyone on clear, balanced and verifiable
criteria that can guarantee that the diversity of viewpoints is represented.

I hope this gives some answers to your question.

Best

Bertrand

On 3/29/06, Renate Bloem <rbloem at ngocongo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeannette and Avri,
>
> As someone who is only observing this list, I was very impressed by
> process
> so far, particularly also by Avri's well organized time frame around it.
> My
> question: why should this nomcom only be an IGC nomcom and not include
> other
> CS groupings?
>
> In my experience with nomcoms of all kinds, participants clearly state
> that
> they are not looking for nomination. Should they as voluntary participants
> suddenly receive great pressure to stand for being nominated, they have to
> immediately resign from the nomcom.
>
> Best
> Renata
> ----------------------
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>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org
> [mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] De la part de Jeanette Hofmann
> Envoyé: mercredi, 29. mars 2006 05:54
> Ŕ: Avri Doria
> Cc: Internet Governance Caucus
> Objet: Re: [governance] igc nomcom and other lists
>
>
>
> Avri Doria wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > a question came up and i wanted to gather some opinions.
> >
> > -  someone is selected by the IGC nomcom and
> >     hence disqualified for the IGC's candidate list
> > -  but later is recommended by some other group for membership
> >     in the MAG.
> >
> > the questions are:
> >
> > - should that person consider themselves disqualified
> >    for participation in the MAG
> > - if they accepted such a recommendation for the MAG would it either
> >      - discredit the IGC process
> >      - or the individual.
>
> I think I agree with your first reaction. What matters is that the
> nomcom doesn't select itself or am I missing something? We should also
> welcome if caucus members are nominated by other constituencies.
> jeanette
> >
> >    [ to put this as an hypothetical example -
> >       if i were a voting member of the nomcom
> >       would it be wrong if ISOC selected me as a candidate
> >         (note this is hypothetical since i have personally
> >          disqualified myself from any consideration for the MAG
> >          due to my occasional contract with the IGF secretariat
> >          and i have no knowledge about whether the ISOC is
> >          considering its own list.)
> >     ]
> >
> > my first reaction was that the IGC nomcom rules about
> > disqualification would apply only to the IGC's list and should
> > therefore not affect the decisions of any other group.  likewise, the
> > actions of another group should not affect the IGC process and thus
> > it should not discredit our activity.
> >
> > the issue of whether a person's personal reputation would be hurt is
> > another issue and one i find more difficult to answer.  i figure that
> > reputation is most relevant within this group and thus decided that
> > the best indicator would be involve a discussion on this list.  i
> > figure people on this list can offer their opinions, and anyone who
> > finds themselves in this position would have the opinions of this
> > group to guide them in their personal decision.
> >
> > note, further possible complications are that
> >     a. someone could be suggested without their knowledge or explicit
> > permission
> >     b. someone could be selected without a specific recommendation.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > a.
> >
> > ps. we currently have 15 volunteers, if we don't get at least 10
> > more, the question is moot.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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