[governance] WSIS principles and conferences

Carlos Afonso ca at rits.org.br
Tue Mar 21 16:38:03 EST 2006


Thanks Jeanette. My view of course does not mean I have candidates to 
suggest at this point.

--c.a.

Jeanette Hofmann escreveu:
> 
> 
> Carlos Afonso wrote:
>> Frankly, I think we are off to a bad start if people nominate 
>> themselves to any nominating committee... whatever their 
>> qualifications. This must be done in a different way. I know it would 
>> be simpler to just have a flock of people desiring to nominate other 
>> people and from this build the nomcom, but I do not trust the results.
> 
> Carlos, I agree. That is why I think we need a pool of candidates for 
> nomcom. What is your proposal?
> jeanette
>>
>> BTW, "all the people in this list wanting to be in the Advisory 
>> Committee" does not include me -- this view of the process is also a 
>> bad start. It is not a question of personal desires but of indication 
>> by constituencies. Any of us can continue to help in this process 
>> whether we are in or out -- supposing we will have a process to choose 
>> reps from the different interest groups which will be accepted by the SG.
>>
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> David Goldstein escreveu:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Given there are others on this list who are in a
>>> better position to be on an Advisory Group, I am happy
>>> to nominate myself to be on the Nominating Committee
>>> should others on the list desire.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> David
>>> --- Milton Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Congratulations, Danny. I was feeling pretty sure
>>>> that Avri's proposed method would fail
>>>> because...well, because all of the active people on
>>>> this list want to be on the Advisory Group (yes,
>>>> that includes me), so I thought no one would
>>>> volunteer for the Nominating Committee. But you
>>>> proved me wrong. So that's one down, 4 to go. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I also am concerned about the fact that we have no
>>>> coordinators and no established procedure for making
>>>> decisions, and now we are faced with a need for
>>>> fairly quick action.
>>>> We have no real means of authoritatively choosing a
>>>> Nominating Committee, except via some form of
>>>> consensus or passive acquiescence on the list. But
>>>> if we can choose 5 nomcom members that way, why
>>>> can't we select 10 IGF-MAG nominees that way also,
>>>> and eliminate a (potentially time consuming) step?
>>>> --MM
>>>>
>>>>>>> Danny Butt <db at dannybutt.net> 3/17/2006 7:29:41
>>>> PM >>>
>>>> Could someone clarify the likely role of the IGF
>>>> advisory group?
>>>>
>>>> If the advisory group will be establishing a process
>>>> for the forum,  then our initial role in that should probably be
>>>> finding CS members  with process expertise to put forward. I think that
>>>> WGIG members  might be precisely the most useful people for that
>>>> advisory process.  This might be different than the kind of
>>>> representation we would want  for this caucus as a mechanism for CS 
>>>> participation
>>>> in the IGF itself  - where particular areas of domain expertise would
>>>> be useful, and  where broader outreach will be valuable.
>>>>
>>>> I support Avri's suggestion of a nominating
>>>> committee that excludes  IGF-MAG participants, and also the use of the
>>>> process in RFC3797.
>>>>
>>>> We currently have no way of gauging consensus, but
>>>> if the nomcom idea  is agreed to, I am happy to volunteer for the
>>>> nominating committee.
>>>>
>>>> I can also work on a charter for the group, but I
>>>> think this is going  to take a bit longer, can it can come after we get
>>>> through the IGF- MAG process? But I agree with Bill that there is a
>>>> good opportunity  here and it should be taken.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18/03/2006, at 6:12 AM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I will be happy to work on a charter
>>>> for the group, with
>>>>> whoever else wants to join. We haven't decided
>>>> what we want the 
>>>>> group to
>>>>> be - procedure only or also substance related, for
>>>> example - but I 
>>>>> guess
>>>>> we can follow the proactivity rule: those who
>>>> really care will work 
>>>>> out
>>>>> the details, and others will follow as long as
>>>> they make good choices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Danny Butt
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>>>> http://www.sumamedia.com Private Bag MBE P145, Auckland, Aotearoa 
>>>> New Zealand
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