[governance] RALO

Tue Jan 24 07:35:53 EST 2006

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|-----Original Message-----
|From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org 
|[mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of 
|Wolfgang Kleinwächter
|Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:57 AM
|To: Vittorio Bertola; Danny Younger
|Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; ga at gnso.icann.org
|Subject: [governance] RALO
|
|
|Thanks Vittorio for sending me the draft principles for the EU-RALO.
| 
|Below you see my comments. I wanted to post my comments on the 
|RALO list, hosted by ISOC Belgium, but always when i wanted to 
|register, it was rejected. The text on the website says that 
|after reading the basic statement I have to click "agree". I 
|did agree but nothing happend. No registration from poped up. 
|http://www.isoc.be/euralo/policy.asp
|I informed yesterday Rudi Vansnick from IOC Belgium, but also 
|today, it does not work.
| 
|Best regards
| 
|wolfgang
| 
|Here is the Statement
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|Comments from Wolfgang Kleinwächter
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|to the "Principles Paper towards a European Regional At Large 
|Organisation",
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|released by former and current European ALAC Members on 
|January, 17th, 2006
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|1.	I do not understand why some (former and current) 
|European members of ALAC have started the initiative for an 
|EU-RALO now. The call for an EU-RALO is on the table since 
|three years. The arguments in 2003, 2004 and 2005 not to start 
|with the EU-RALO have been that the number of ALS was seen as 
|too small and not representative enough. "Give us more time 
|for outreach" was the answer when I raised this issue in AL 
|meetings in Capetown (December 2004) and Mar del Plata (March 
|2005).  In September 2004 there were seven accredited ALS in 
|Europe. Now, after another 17 months, we have eight members 
|plus one pending application from a rather unknown Italian 
|group "tldworld.info". I can not see that this is a new 
|quality, more representative than it was two years ago. In 
|contrary, it is a big shame that within the last 17 months the 
|European ALAC members have been unable to attract more 
|European Internet user groups and organisations. 
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|2.	With regard to the accredited eight ALS, I have no 
|problems that these groups are mainly ISOC chapters. The 
|problem is that the big European ISOC chapters - like UK, 
|France or Germany - are not accredited members. Also other big 
|European consumer and user organisations, representing 
|national organisations with much more members than some of the 
|accredited ISOC Chapters, have ignored so far the ALAC 
|invitation. As I said in an earlier mail, to establish an 
|EU-RALO under this circumstances is like organising the 
|Champions League without the Champions. The risk here is that 
|governments will take this as a joke when EU-RALO will speak 
|"on behalf of the Internet users in Europe". You feed 
|arguments by governmental representatives that the governments 
|represent the interests of the European Internet users and not 
|the user groups themselves. To be frank, I like FITUG, but 
|Michael Leibrand, the German GAC member, will not be impressed 
|by statements coming from this group. Why FITUG was unable to 
|attract ISOC Germany, CCC and all the other Internet User 
|groups with thousands of members, coming together to dozens of 
|meetings every year? Why FITUG as the only German User groups 
|so far, does not come to the Domain Pulse meetings, organized 
|by the German speaking ccTLD Registries (where the majority of 
|Internet end users in Germany, Austria and Switzerland have 
|their registration) and is advertising the At Large idea?
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|3.	What I miss totally in the proposed draft is a chapter 
|which defines the aims and principles of an European RALO.  
|Para. 3 in Chapter II says only that the purpose of the 
|EU-RALO is to provide a "channel for participation by the 
|European individual Internet users into the activities of 
|ICANN". This is only a formal and procedural point. Why you 
|did not define some content and value related criteria which 
|would make Internet user involvement different from the 
|involvement of other stakeholders? I think there is a need to 
|describe more in details the special role and responsibility 
|of Internet users and their organisations in the ICANN context 
|from a European perspective. 
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|4.	While I fully support to have two categories of members 
|- institutional and individual - I do not see a right balance 
|between the two categories in the proposed draft. As it stands 
|now, individuals are rather marginalized in the proposed 
|"Executive Board" (EC). What will be the outcome if the 
|EU-RALO would be established now? We have now 8 (or 9) ALS 
|that means each would get one seat in the EC. With the low 
|level of outreach so far I would be surprised to see more than 
|20 or 30 individual members within the next three months. With 
|other words, the EC would have ten members, nine from the 
|accredited ALS. This looks like a closed club which does not 
|like "foreign members" but want to give the impression that 
|they are "open". Such a structure is exclusive, not inclusive. 
|It keeps people out and decourages individuals to join. 
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|5.	My counter proposal is to establish a Council with ten 
|seats, five filled by the institutional members, five filled 
|by the individual members, based an the principle of 
|geographical diversity, that would mean two members (one 
|individual and one institutional) form Western Europe, two 
|from Northern Europe, two from Eastern Europe, two from 
|Southern Europe and two from Central Europe. 
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|6.	I strongly disagree that the officers of the EU-RALO 
|(including the ALAC members) are selected by the Executive 
|Council. This opens the door for a "friend of my friends 
|network" and  allows all tricky games behind closed doors. 
|Civil society and At Large stands for bottom up, open and 
|transparent processes. But this is closed, intransparent and 
|top down. This is totally unacceptable. And it is the result 
|of the failure of Chapter II of the proposed draft, where the 
|mission is defined in "technical terms" only and excludes all 
|values and content related orientation.
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|7.	I support in Chapter VI - Funding Mechanism - that the 
|EU-RALO should be in the first 24 months supported by the 
|ICANN budget. But as it stands now, it looks like the former 
|and current ALAC members are asking for money for a half day 
|job for one person in Brussels (selected by the EC) and to 
|guarantee financing of Travel and Accommodation for EC 
|selected people for two years. There is no paragraph which 
|says, that money should be used for local seminars and 
|workshops for further outreach or human capacity building. If 
|money comes from ICANN it should not be spent in five star 
|hotels but to help people on the ground to understand better 
|the challenges of Internet governance from a user perspective. 
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|8.	The dateline for Comments - February 15, 2006 - is 
|totally unacceptable. Giving the low level of outreach and 
|publicity, the call for comments has got so far, this can not 
|be taken seriously. The authors of the draft should use the 
|forthcoming IGF consultations in Geneva, February 16 - 17, 
|2006, to inform about the efforts to build a EU-RALO and to 
|get feedback from the different constituencies, which will 
|come to Geneva. It looks like a coup to create facts before 
|the IGF consultations.   
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|9.	So my final recommendation is that the paper should be 
|immediately withdrawn and the former and current members of 
|the ALAC should present a clear and workable plan for outreach 
|and capacity building, based on defined aims, values and 
|principles which serve the interest of the Internet end-users 
|in Europe. 
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