[governance] please read: APC text on Forum function
Ronda Hauben
ronda at panix.com
Thu Sep 29 09:54:48 EDT 2005
About 'end-to-end' and 'open architecture'
Actually the architectural principle for the internet was 'open
architecture' which meant that all the info about the the communicating
networks would function as peers of each other,rather than requiring
that any one become a component of another."
A definition of open architecture is "Open architecture...describes the
structure of the Internet, which is built on standard interfaces,
protocols, a basic data format, and a uniform identifier or addressing
mechanism. All the information needed regarding the interconnection
aspects is publicly available."
The end to end principle has been promoted as the essence of the Internet,
but the Internet is not any single network (which goes from one end to
another end.). The Internet is a network of networks.
So it is important that this interconnection of dissimilar networks
be recognized in characterizing the Internet, as this is the conception
of its origin and what its nature is. This is what makes it possible for
so many dissimilar networks to be interconnected in today's Internet.
Ronda
http://umcc.ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/birth_tcp.txt
http://www.circleid.com/article/96_0_1_0_Chttp://www.circleid.com/article/96_0_1_0_C
http://umcc.ais.org/~ronda/new.papers/birth_tcp.txt
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Laina Raveendran Greene wrote:
>
> Agreed with you Lee. There is a need to remind people about the openess of
> the Internet and the spirit in which it was created and spread around the
> world. In our statement, we tried to remind delegates that the Internet was
> created by individuals with a high sense of shared responsibility and trust,
> and any efforts for IG, whether improving the status quo, creating a forum
> and/or new oversight mechanisms, should all be done within these same
> spirit.
>
> Currently, as Amb Klarkin pointed out, we are at a unique juncture of public
> and private international law coming together. It has happened before from
> the 60s to 90s, with the rise of MNCs and international law moving towards
> the application of "soft laws" and increase of private international law
> applications. Now we have the civil society equation, which is new to some
> agencies especially the likes of ITU. It is a very unique juncture of the
> creation of a "new form of cooperation" between stakeholders and a new form
> of "soft law" (even moving beyond what we have in PIL....a term used in
> public international law vis a vis MOUs e.g. lke the one we had on GMPCS on
> LEOs etc..).
>
> Laina
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org
> [mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Lee McKnight
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:21 PM
> To: wdrake at cpsr.org; wdrake at ictsd.ch; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] please read: APC text on Forum function
>
> Karen, Bill,
>
> I appreciate your intent Karen and APC's intent but agree with Bill that
> 'binding international agreements' on openness is a contradication in terms
> that will never fly.
>
> Language more along the lines that the forum's efforts should keep in mind
> the need to preserve the Internet's essential features, such as, 'openness
> etc..' might have the opposite effect of making agreement easier, since then
> the forum is signalling the techies that it will not muck things up.
>
> Lee
>
> Prof. Lee W. McKnight
> School of Information Studies
> Syracuse University
> +1-315-443-6891office
> +1-315-278-4392 mobile
>
>>>> wdrake at cpsr.org 09/29/05 5:55 AM >>>
> Karen,
>
>>> In the context of the evolving public and technical policy landscape
> of
>>> the Internet there will be a need to concretize binding
> international
>>> agreements that relate to:
>>>
>>> - the architectural principles of the Internet, including
>>> interoperability, openness and the end-to-end principle
>
> I am very strongly opposed to putting this in the forum, and believe it will
> provide the USA and business with a big opening to reject the forum
> outright. I hope you will reconsider, it's dangerous.
>
> Rest is consistent more or less with IGcaucus etc.
>
> BD
>
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