[governance] [not_spam] CS positon 1230?

Jeremy Shtern jeremy.shtern at umontreal.ca
Tue Sep 27 06:47:59 EDT 2005


Sorry if my previous message about CS speaking on the forum function was
alarmist, the chair just said CS will speak soon, so clearly this was
sorted out beyond my line of site. 
-JS

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Jeremy Shtern,
 
candidat doctoral et chercheur au Laboratoire de Recherche sur les
Politiques de Communication/
Ph.D candidate & researcher at the Communications Policy Research
Laboratory 
 
Université de Montréal            
département de communication
 
514-343-6111 ex./poste  5419               
jeremy.shtern at umontreal.ca
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org
[mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Shtern
Sent: September 27, 2005 6:31 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: [not_spam] [governance] CS positon 1230?

Immediately on returning from break at 1230, the chair just asked if CS
had a position or input on the forum function. No one answered, so he
moved on to government.

I send this message in case the IG cacus had comments to make but is not
currently in the room. I can't see who is or isn't in the lower deck
from where I am sitting.
-JS
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Jeremy Shtern,
 
candidat doctoral et chercheur au Laboratoire de Recherche sur les
Politiques de Communication/
Ph.D candidate & researcher at the Communications Policy Research
Laboratory 
 
Université de Montréal            
département de communication
 
514-343-6111 ex./poste  5419               
jeremy.shtern at umontreal.ca
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org
[mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU
Sent: September 27, 2005 5:08 AM
To: plenary at wsis-cs.org; governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: [not_spam] Re: [governance] [WSIS CS-Plenary] Comments at
plenary - Sept 27 AM

I also think while waiting for the decision of our participation in
drafting
groups, we are already losing the opportunites for almost two days.

Just sitting inside the drafting group room quietly is better than
kicking
out, but for that we cannot make any substantive comments but just
being there watching governments going ahead for the negotiation.

I think we should put equal amount of energy for making subtantive
comments, especially as they approach to the core issues of oversight
and forum we should really make our own position clear to them
in time, not after.

Let us first discuss about that this afternoon at the IG caucus
meeting in Geneva, and welcome all online comments for that.

Thanks,

izumi

At 17:52 05/09/27 +0900, Adam Peake wrote:
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>I read some text this morning.  As the CS plenary decided that we 
>should not present the draft discussed in content and themes and 
>various CS lists, we dropped that text for now.  What I think I said 
>(pretty on the fly) was:
>
>Good morning Mr. Chair
>
>Thank you for your personal efforts to ensure transparency and 
>inclusion, your efforts since the publication of the WGIG report are 
>much appreciated.
>
>However, Civil Society is disappointed that we will not be able to 
>participate fully in the drafting groups.  And that the rules and 
>procedures for this prepcom now seem unclear to all.
>
>Could you explain the situation regarding drafting groups?
>
>We note your new compilation document of comments received, and are 
>pleased to see that some civil society comments have been included. 
>But also note some have not been included.  For example last Friday 
>we made comments about 43c.  These comments were also mentioned by a 
>government in sub committee yesterday.  But they are not mentioned 
>in your new document, nor were they mentioned during the drafting 
>group meeting that discussed 43 yesterday.  Did we have rights to 
>speak in that drafting group?  Could we have reminded the group that 
>we had already submitted comments and those comments were already on 
>the prepcom3 website.
>
>I think you can understand our confusion.  Can we join and speak in 
>drafting groups?  Are our comments made to sub-committee A being 
>taken into consideration?
>
>We would appreciate clarity on this. We were expecting some 
>resolution yesterday.
>
>Thank you.
>
>END.
>
>Izumi has sent some notes with the chair's response you should 
>already have seen.
>
>I think bad precedence is being set.  Above was read in my name and 
>that of GLOCOM and on behalf of the IG caucus so is my 
>responsibility, I thought something had to be said.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Adam
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