[governance] Forum/oversight: Middle Ground proposal

[Jacqueline Morris]

Hey avri
IF you are drafting a response, can you add my favorite point? Equal
participation.
Jacqueline

On 9/30/05, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am not necessarily comfortable with all you write below, though in
> some cases it may just be a matter or understanding.
>
> I certainly support making a statement about the need to add msh
> wording.
>
> i think that if we make a statement it should be a positive one that
> adds to the the proposal as opposed to tearing it apart.
>
> quick comments on some of the points:
>
>
> On 30 sep 2005, at 10.35, William Drake wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some notable things about the
> > Canada/NZ/Aus/Switzerland/US/Singapore/Argentina/Uruguay 'middle
> > ground'
> > proposal.
> >
> > 1. If the USA is indeed on board with it, the USA has endorsed the
> > creation of a forum.  I thought they'd hold out longer, but the EU
> > oversight proposal has brought things to a head, so cards are being
> > played
> > now.
> >
> > 2. The framing of the forum is not desirable.
> >
> > *There is no mention of it being multistakeholder, much less peer-
> > level
> > and open to unaffiliated individuals as participants.
> >
>
> this should be added if it not there, but i think it is.  at least in
> what i read last night.
>
> > *There is no mention of it having a mandate to do much of what the IG
> > caucus has proposed in terms of functions.
> >
>
> and the ambiguity of the forum is what allows it to happen.  plus as
> you know i have always supported the mimimalist start to the forum
> with it gaining more function as it proves itself.
>
> > *There is no mention of where and in what form it would be
> > constituted; we
> > have suggested that outside of but related to the UN would be
> > preferable.
> > We certainly don't want it based in an existing institution, i.e. ITU.
>
> has some conversations on this.  following a wgig model it could be
> just a light weight secretariat that enables, with that secretariat
> arranging for the forum to be hosted by existing organizations; e.g.
> undp one year, isoc another and yes even itu getting a chance.
>
> >
> > *The language about it being non-duplicative and focusing on issues
> > not
> > otherwise being addressed adequately elsewhere could very well be
> > deployed
> > by the US, private sector, and others to say that, inter alia, the
> > forum
> > should not talk about any intellectual property issues because we have
> > WIPO for that, nor trade aspects because we have WTO for that, nor
> > interconnection costs or spam because we have ITU for these, nor
> > privacy
> > and "information security" because we have the COE Cybercrime
> > Convention
> > for these, and on and on.  But the way these bodies have "handled"
> > these
> > issues is not that desirable.  As we all know, many of the existing
> > bodies
> > do not allow participation, or meaningful participation, by CS; are
> > controlled by particular industry coalitions and government
> > agencies with
> > specific and limiting missions; and accordingly produce outcomes
> > that are
> > not in tune with public interest considerations.  Presumably, talking
> > about how those organizations function would also be off limits.  This
> > would eliminate what Avri referred to at the CPSR panel as the
> > "gadfly"
> > function of the forum---raising issues and concerns not being raised
> > within these bodies, pushing them, calling for solutions that are in
> > keeping with WSIS principles, etc.
>
> this becomes a matter of defining the context in which something is
> considered.  again i don't see anyone stopping a forum from talking
> about these issues if that is what it decides to talk about.
>
> >
> > I hope these concerns will be raised in our interventions if the
> > opportunity arises.
>
> i guess we have a difference of opinion here.  i would not care to
> raise most of these, but would rather focus on the addition of MSH
> and peer participation and inclusion especially a focus on
> development issues.
>
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