[governance] Government oversight (was Vixie ...)
Norbert Klein
nhklein at gmx.net
Tue Oct 11 08:17:12 EDT 2005
Avri Doria wrote:
>On 10 okt 2005, at 20.45, Laina Raveendran Greene wrote:
>
[snip]
>>I was very concerned about this kind of baseless rumour
>>mongering to raise people;s emotions that was being done both on
>>the gov side as well as on CS side.
>>
>>
>
>I don't think that mentioning a possibility is baseless rumor
>mongering. Now you may argue it is impossible, while others may
>believe it is inevitable, but that is a matter of opinion and a
>matter for discussion. Putting down another persons argument as
>baseless rumor mongering doesn't seem particularly helpful.
>
>
Well, it is not baseless rumor mongering anyway. And it is not only
mentioning a possibility - something like this actually did happen.
(sorry, the URL given here does not seem to work any longer - I copied
it down a long time ago)
"Thu, Nov 22" must have been 2001
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AP Via Excite - Updated: Thu, Nov 22 5:27 PM EST
http://news.excite.com/news/ap/011122/17/int-attacks-somalia
Somali Web Co. on US Suspects List
By OSMAN HASSAN, Associated Press Writer
MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) - Somalia's only Internet company was forced to
close it offices Thursday, two weeks after appearing on a U.S. list of
organizations with suspected links to terrorism. Somali Internet Co.
shut down after the United Arab Emirates' state-owned Internet service,
Etisalat, canceled its international access, said Abdulkadir Hassan
Ahmed Kadleh, administrator for the Somali firm. "I first thought it was
a technical problem, but then when I called the Etisalat company in
Dubai, the engineers informed us that it was an intentional freeze
down," Kadleh told The Associated Press.
Somali Internet Co. is among 62 organizations and people the United
States believes are funneling funds for international terror suspect
Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network. The list was issued Nov. 7.
The Mogadishu-based firm, created in 1998, is jointly owned by three
Somali companies - Telecom Somalia, NationLink and Al-Barakaat. It has
offices throughout southern Somalia. Al-Barakaat, Somalia's largest
company, also is on the list and was forced to close its financial
businesses, including a money transfer service vital to hundreds of
thousands of impoverished Somalis, after its assets were frozen. On Nov.
14, it also closed its international telephone service after U.S.-based
Concert Communications, a joint venture between AT&T and British
Telecom, cut off its international gateway. Al-Barakaat and Somali
Internet Co. officials denied having links to terrorism. "This Internet
company has nothing to do with terrorism," said Abdulaziz Haji, managing
director of Telecom Somali. "It was losing money and it's only this year
it just covered itself, so how can it provide somebody else with money?"
Etisalat officials could not be contacted for comment Thursday. The Horn
of Africa nation's banking and telecommunications systems collapsed
during the decade of clan-based fighting that followed the ouster of
dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
A transitional government elected in August 2000 but has yet to
re-establish state institutions. In the meantime, private companies have
offered some of Africa's cheapest phone services. "Many people are now
losing their jobs, others will suffer because the services are now in a
total stagnation," Somali Internet customer Mohamed Ali Farah said. "We
will have to go back to the old days of using fax and expensive
telephones so as to transmit our messages."
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Norbert
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