[governance] Government oversight (was Vixie ...)

[Ray Plzak]

Bringing economic sanctions into this discussion is an interesting
dimension.

Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance-
> bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:53 AM
> To: Norbert Klein; Governance Caucus
> Subject: Re: [governance] Government oversight (was Vixie ...)
> 
> Another example, perhaps, is that many .com domains held by Iranian
> entity (individuals and corporations alike) through Iranian registrars
> were canceled without their consent. The base was, I assume, that
> Iranian entity is being sanctioned by the US law since Iran is a
> nation that supports terrorist activities. Ie, any US corporation
> is prohibited from making commercial transaction with Iranians.
> Hence US Registries had to stop selling domain names to
> Iranians. (Registiries outside US can still continue, though)>
> 
> If applied strictly, ICANN as US corporation may not be able
> to deal with Iranians, at least directly.
> 
> izumi
> 
> 
> At 19:17 05/10/11 +0700, Norbert Klein wrote:
> >Avri Doria wrote:
> >
> > >On 10 okt 2005, at 20.45, Laina Raveendran Greene wrote:
> > >
> >[snip]
> >
> > >>I was very concerned about this kind of baseless rumour
> > >>mongering to raise people;s emotions that was being done both on
> > >>the gov side as well as on CS side.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I don't think that mentioning a possibility is baseless rumor
> > >mongering.  Now you may argue it is impossible, while others may
> > >believe it is inevitable, but that is a matter of opinion and a
> > >matter for discussion.  Putting down another persons argument as
> > >baseless rumor mongering doesn't seem particularly helpful.
> > >
> > >
> >Well, it is not baseless rumor mongering anyway. And it is not only
> >mentioning a possibility - something like this actually did happen.
> >
> >(sorry, the URL given here does not seem to work any longer - I copied
> >it down a long time ago)
> >
> >"Thu, Nov 22"  must have been 2001
> >
> >= =
> >AP Via Excite - Updated: Thu, Nov 22 5:27 PM EST
> >
> >http://news.excite.com/news/ap/011122/17/int-attacks-somalia
> >Somali Web Co. on US Suspects List
> >By OSMAN HASSAN, Associated Press Writer
> >
> >MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) - Somalia's only Internet company was forced to
> >close it offices Thursday, two weeks after appearing on a U.S. list of
> >organizations with suspected links to terrorism. Somali Internet Co.
> >shut down after the United Arab Emirates' state-owned Internet service,
> >Etisalat, canceled its international access, said Abdulkadir Hassan
> >Ahmed Kadleh, administrator for the Somali firm. "I first thought it was
> >a technical problem, but then when I called the Etisalat company in
> >Dubai, the engineers informed us that it was an intentional freeze
> >down," Kadleh told The Associated Press.
> >
> >Somali Internet Co. is among 62 organizations and people the United
> >States believes are funneling funds for international terror suspect
> >Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network. The list was issued Nov. 7.
> >The Mogadishu-based firm, created in 1998, is jointly owned by three
> >Somali companies - Telecom Somalia, NationLink and Al-Barakaat. It has
> >offices throughout southern Somalia. Al-Barakaat, Somalia's largest
> >company, also is on the list and was forced to close its financial
> >businesses, including a money transfer service vital to hundreds of
> >thousands of impoverished Somalis, after its assets were frozen. On Nov.
> >14, it also closed its international telephone service after U.S.-based
> >Concert Communications, a joint venture between AT&T and British
> >Telecom, cut off its international gateway. Al-Barakaat and Somali
> >Internet Co. officials denied having links to terrorism. "This Internet
> >company has nothing to do with terrorism," said Abdulaziz Haji, managing
> >director of Telecom Somali. "It was losing money and it's only this year
> >it just covered itself, so how can it provide somebody else with money?"
> >Etisalat officials could not be contacted for comment Thursday. The Horn
> >of Africa nation's banking and telecommunications systems collapsed
> >during the decade of clan-based fighting that followed the ouster of
> >dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991.
> >
> >A transitional government elected in August 2000 but has yet to
> >re-establish state institutions. In the meantime, private companies have
> >offered some of Africa's cheapest phone services. "Many people are now
> >losing their jobs, others will suffer because the services are now in a
> >total stagnation," Somali Internet customer Mohamed Ali Farah said. "We
> >will have to go back to the old days of using fax and expensive
> >telephones so as to transmit our messages."
> >= =
> >
> >Norbert
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