[governance] Comments related to the WGIG report

Izumi AIZU aizu at anr.org
Sun Aug 14 23:33:24 EDT 2005


I mostly agree with the fact Milton brought in.

Besides, the source of ISOC fund provided to IETF comes from
PIR, non-profit entity running .org. for roughly $800,000 running
cost, plus extra $469,000 for "reform" of IETF.

Please see:

http://www.isoc.org/isoc/fin/budget2005.shtml

and
http://www.isoc.org/isoc/fin/ISOC2005budget.pdf

The perception of "light" secretariat and the reality of
IETF running look very different to me.

Please do not mis-understand my comment - I am not in general
against the "light-hand" secretariat model.

But I do think we need to look the reality seriously and carefully.

I mean, for the forum we want to see may and will require sufficient
amount of money and other investment if it is to work effectively.

We need to remind this to the governments and private sector,
to prepare for the cost. That's my main message.


best,

izumi

At 20:45 05/08/14 -0400, Milton Mueller wrote:
> >>> McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> 08/13/05 3:14 PM >>>
>[arguing that the Forum does not need a Secretariat]
>
> >The IETF springs to mind here.  It has only one employee (a recetn
> >hire). It has functioned for many years on volunteer efforts.
>
>I'm sorry, but this is a factual error. The Corporation for National
>Research Initiatives has served as the IETF Secretariat for many years,
>and has recieved grant money from the USG in part because of that
>function. IETF had a budget of about $2 million per year during this
>period.
>
>Additionally, NSF and DARPA supported the RFC Editor function with
>grant money during the most important years of the IETF's development
>(1987-1997). At the present time, the Internet Society (ISOC) is
>receiving over $3 million in contributions from PIR (the .org registry)
>to support IETF activities.
>
>People who say the Forum doesn't need a secretariat are, I suspect,
>people who don't really care whether we have a Forum or not.
>
>--MM
>
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