From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sun Jun  2 18:37:35 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:37:35 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Last Call to sign up to the Christchurch Call
 collective input
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvBn0Hd8PhJOrg8Rb0X11MGCOKS6pD6_0W6f0LgmBNwOuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvBn0Hd8PhJOrg8Rb0X11MGCOKS6pD6_0W6f0LgmBNwOuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvBUp20GGWAvVRXuwHMWQaTVVFjYhn5y4f0d1JbOJ1V5sQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you would like to be an endorsing organization to the collective input
on Christchurch call please let me know. The final deadline is Wednesday 5
June, but it might be better to submit a little bit earlier, preferably by
Tuesday. Here is the link to the Input

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10RadyVQUNu1H5D7x6IJVKbqmaeDeXre0Mk-FFNkIVxs/edit?usp=sharing

Best
Farzaneh
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From mike.oghia at gmail.com  Mon Jun 10 04:34:15 2019
From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:34:15 +0200
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: [DC3] UNHCR Innovation Service | Connectivity for
 Refugees | Call for Interest
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Message-ID: <CAMCMt7rv98G42jJcgpz06bZTniQ08dvivwa1_EnYSEuqNHY5RQ@mail.gmail.com>

In case anyone knows of people working on connectivity for refugees, this
could be a good opportunity:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NCYLMHxIYhjQZAK_mozIx0U9Ya3q7ZFhXIg99uDaND4/edit

Best,
-Michael


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From: Luca Belli <luca.belli at fgv.br>
Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:38 PM
Subject: [DC3] UNHCR Innovation Service | Connectivity for Refugees | Call
for Interest
To: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>

I don’t know if this has already been circulated here but I think it may be
of interest:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NCYLMHxIYhjQZAK_mozIx0U9Ya3q7ZFhXIg99uDaND4/edit



All the best

Luca
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From javier at accessnow.org  Mon Jun 10 08:20:28 2019
From: javier at accessnow.org (Javier Pallero)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:20:28 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] RightsCon. Closed meeting MSFT + Civil Society
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Hi everyone. Thanks to all of you who expressed interest in attending.

This email is to let you know that we are over capacity and that we won't
be able to take more people other than those who already reached out on
email.

My apologies.  I would send more information to this list afterwards

Javier Pallero
Latam Policy Lead - Access Now

Sent from mobile, pardon my brevity

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019, 15:30 Javier Pallero <javier at accessnow.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone
>  if you happen to be at RightsCon, Microsoft has called for a closed
> meeting on Wednesday June 12 between them and Civil Society organizations
> at the event.
>
> The idea is to discuss the implementation of the Christchurch Call. If
> you're interested in attending please let me know and I will pass on the
> details for the meeting.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Javier Pallero
> Latam Policy Lead - Access Now
>
> Sent from mobile, pardon my brevity
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From parminder at itforchange.net  Mon Jun 10 08:23:58 2019
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:53:58 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] RightsCon satellite event- What do social movements need
 to do in the age of data? Towards a digital justice manifesto
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Mon Jun 10 11:13:55 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:13:55 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] UNHLP on digital cooperation report launch
Message-ID: <CAK78muTM6GH97NU6-XCk1rB3JuXzJnQBaqZ8cRaXE3PhWF3DvA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

For those watching the launch of the report online and in case of interest,
the final report is here:

https://www.un.org/en/pdfs/DigitalCooperation-report-for%20web.pdf

Best
Sheetal


-- 


*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Mon Jun 10 11:36:53 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:36:53 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the future of
 Bestbits: next steps
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Dear all,

Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting in
Tunis tomorrow.

If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me a
line if you can.

Please find the details below:

*Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm

*Why/Aims/intended outcome:*

   -
*Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *


*What/the agenda: *

*1) Introductions (15 minutes)*

*2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*

*3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
(1-1.5 hours)*
*4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45 minutes) *

Do let me know if you have any questions!

Best

*Best*

*Sheetal.*


On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan the
> IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>
>    - Room Dougga
>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>
> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be part of
> the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet before/after the
> event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed interest in this effort
> so I can add you to that too.
>
> Hope to see many of you soon!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
> --
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies off-thread
>> expressing interest in the effort.
>>
>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>> at RightsCon?
>>
>> On the way forward:
>>
>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to attend
>>    that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like to
>>    accommodate everyone who can attend
>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do get
>>    in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can input
>>    into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have good
>>    wifi)
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>
>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>
>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>
>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>
>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>
>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>
>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt; governance at lists.igcaucus.org;
>>> governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad where
>>> the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet Principles
>>> had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic Coalition
>>> on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the creation and
>>> translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles among other
>>> positive outcomes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this; ie
>>> among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>> coordination right?
>>>
>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>> this prof).
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those of
>>> us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants here:
>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see below what
>>> some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going forward.
>>>
>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day 0
>>>    event at IGF
>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal steering
>>>    committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal agenda
>>>    has been put together
>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this effort
>>>    come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>    been proposed)
>>>
>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've now
>>> decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about civil
>>> society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would be
>>> helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>> report on the meeting.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>
>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an hour
>>> at 1
>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>> >
>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>> >
>>> > Best
>>> > Sheetal.
>>> >
>>> > Meeting room details
>>> >
>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>> >
>>> > Meeting ID
>>> > 524 189 381
>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>> >
>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>> >
>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>> >
>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Dear all
>>> > >
>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>> *Wednesday,
>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>>> > >
>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>> > >
>>> > > Best
>>> > > Sheetal.
>>> > >
>>> > > Meeting room details
>>> > >
>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>> > >
>>> > > Meeting ID
>>> > > 524 189 381
>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>> > >
>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>> > >
>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>> > >
>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>> > >
>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>> relevant.
>>> > >
>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's
>>> happened
>>> > > so far
>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>> participants of
>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion about
>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>> working,
>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thank you.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox
>>> is not
>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>> mailing-list.
>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so as
>>> to be
>>> > >>> able to help.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Regards.
>>> > >>> Peter
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits list
>>> to
>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>> problem. The
>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is managing
>>> the
>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited to
>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>> limited to
>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>> independent
>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group
>>> should cease
>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>> group wants IGC
>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts on
>>> the
>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>> referring to.
>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any privacy
>>> issue that
>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on this.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>> organization in the
>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many
>>> hat remains.
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response, only
>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly the
>>> poll
>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to
>>> the IGC list.
>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of Bestbits"
>>> rather than
>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in these
>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society coordination,
>>> and I know
>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>> conversations have
>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current
>>> situation
>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network), and
>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society
>>> coordination
>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>> gathered a
>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>> summary report of
>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there
>>> was discussion
>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do that
>>> however, it
>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and agree
>>> a way
>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>> would be
>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm
>>> the date and
>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions
>>> so far!
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I have
>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a
>>> summary included
>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first
>>> half
>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward (45
>>> minutes-1
>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>> founders and other
>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate call
>>> too.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to find
>>> a way
>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>> change
>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>> finding a way
>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>> widest possible
>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on
>>> how to proceed,
>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle for
>>> a follow up
>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would be
>>> great
>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If
>>> you could fill
>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>> appreciated.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>> decide next
>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if
>>> you can,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>> into the next set
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please see
>>> a
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as
>>> members of IGC, it
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>> views of all members.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note
>>> which
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links to
>>> the summaries of
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are invited
>>> to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>> timely way, please
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>> yesterday. For
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the list
>>> of participants
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways forward
>>> for
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>> December and the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>> Bestbits and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>> objectives,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we agreed
>>> to circulate a
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>> suggested ways forward
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that
>>> this survey with
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>> future of the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to both
>>> lists shortly,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>> steps is
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The
>>> full
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>> updated the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the best
>>> time
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>> forward
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number will
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>> record and share the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>> Please let us know if
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an open
>>> mailing list if you
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC
>>> lists,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>> faced in
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>> lists/establishment
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>> information sharing
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>> decision
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>> >and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated they
>>> were available for
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits member
>>> you can join the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is just
>>> to have a vague idea
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic,
>>> and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives and
>>> the relevant
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch
>>> base
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way forward.
>>> The discussions here
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh
>>> has kindly offered to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>> faced
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>> lists/establishment
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as
>>> information sharing
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that we
>>> also reach out to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>> inform the discussion
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of
>>> next
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the
>>> conference room link
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and
>>> have a
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with
>>> what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again really
>>> improve participation?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to be
>>> done,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who
>>> started
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same perceptions
>>> and perspectives, same
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems unlikely
>>> that
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC (which
>>> many
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having some
>>> difficulty with
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management tasks
>>> for the group.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues
>>> and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to do
>>> that now or do we need
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>> Committee
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while since
>>> it had
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the
>>> 2012 ITU
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint
>>> action
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>> steering
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had
>>> driven
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There
>>> were
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>> having
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>> funding.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>> resulted in
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of
>>> rules
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>> weren't
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the
>>> more
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for that.
>>> But I
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to it
>>> as
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>> nonprofit
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget
>>> -q -i
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>> Economics, 1979
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>> 173B
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>> E9E2
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>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>> E9E2
>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>> E9E2
>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>>
>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>> > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>
>

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*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 11:48:48 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the future of
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Good luck with the meeting!
Looking forward to hearing about it afterwards (I'm assuming that remote
participation isn't possible)
Best wishes to all
De

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 11:37, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting in
> Tunis tomorrow.
>
> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me a
> line if you can.
>
> Please find the details below:
>
> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>
> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>
>    -
> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>
>
> *What/the agenda: *
>
> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>
> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>
> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
> (1-1.5 hours)*
> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45 minutes) *
>
> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>
> Best
>
> *Best*
>
> *Sheetal.*
>
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan the
>> IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>
>>    - Room Dougga
>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>
>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be part
>> of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet before/after
>> the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed interest in this
>> effort so I can add you to that too.
>>
>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies off-thread
>>> expressing interest in the effort.
>>>
>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>> at RightsCon?
>>>
>>> On the way forward:
>>>
>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>    good wifi)
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>
>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>
>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>
>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this; ie
>>>> among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>> coordination right?
>>>>
>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>> this prof).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those of
>>>> us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants here:
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see below what
>>>> some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going forward.
>>>>
>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day 0
>>>>    event at IGF
>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal steering
>>>>    committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this effort
>>>>    come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>
>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've now
>>>> decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about civil
>>>> society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would be
>>>> helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>
>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Dear all,
>>>> >
>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an hour
>>>> at 1
>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>> >
>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> >
>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> >
>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> >
>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Dear all
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best
>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>> relevant.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's
>>>> happened
>>>> > > so far
>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>> participants of
>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion about
>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>> working,
>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox
>>>> is not
>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>> mailing-list.
>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so as
>>>> to be
>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits list
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>> problem. The
>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is managing
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited to
>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>> limited to
>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>> independent
>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group
>>>> should cease
>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>> group wants IGC
>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts on
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>> referring to.
>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>> privacy issue that
>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on this.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>> organization in the
>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many
>>>> hat remains.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>> only
>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>> the poll
>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to
>>>> the IGC list.
>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of Bestbits"
>>>> rather than
>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in these
>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society coordination,
>>>> and I know
>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>> conversations have
>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current
>>>> situation
>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network),
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society
>>>> coordination
>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>> gathered a
>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>> summary report of
>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there
>>>> was discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>> that however, it
>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>> agree a way
>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>> would be
>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm
>>>> the date and
>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions
>>>> so far!
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I have
>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a
>>>> summary included
>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first
>>>> half
>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>> founders and other
>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate call
>>>> too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to find
>>>> a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>> change
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>> finding a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>> widest possible
>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on
>>>> how to proceed,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle for
>>>> a follow up
>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would be
>>>> great
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If
>>>> you could fill
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>> decide next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if
>>>> you can,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>> into the next set
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>> see a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as
>>>> members of IGC, it
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>> views of all members.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note
>>>> which
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links
>>>> to the summaries of
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are invited
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>> timely way, please
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>> yesterday. For
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the list
>>>> of participants
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways forward
>>>> for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>> December and the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>> Bestbits and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>> objectives,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we agreed
>>>> to circulate a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that
>>>> this survey with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>> future of the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to both
>>>> lists shortly,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>> steps is
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The
>>>> full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>> updated the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>> best time
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>> forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number will
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>> record and share the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>> Please let us know if
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an open
>>>> mailing list if you
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC
>>>> lists,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>> faced in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>> lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>> information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>> decision
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> >and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated they
>>>> were available for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits member
>>>> you can join the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is just
>>>> to have a vague idea
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic,
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>> and the relevant
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch
>>>> base
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh
>>>> has kindly offered to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>> faced
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>> lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as
>>>> information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that we
>>>> also reach out to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>> inform the discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of
>>>> next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the
>>>> conference room link
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and
>>>> have a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with
>>>> what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>> really improve participation?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to be
>>>> done,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who
>>>> started
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same perceptions
>>>> and perspectives, same
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems unlikely
>>>> that
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>> (which many
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having some
>>>> difficulty with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management tasks
>>>> for the group.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to do
>>>> that now or do we need
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>> Committee
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while since
>>>> it had
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the
>>>> 2012 ITU
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint
>>>> action
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>> steering
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had
>>>> driven
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There
>>>> were
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>> having
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>> funding.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>> resulted in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of
>>>> rules
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>> weren't
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the
>>>> more
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for that.
>>>> But I
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to
>>>> it as
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>> nonprofit
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget
>>>> -q -i
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>> 114D 173B
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
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>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From mishi at softwarefreedom.org  Mon Jun 10 14:29:55 2019
From: mishi at softwarefreedom.org (Mishi Choudhary)
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 14:29:55 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] ACM Inaugural Computer Science and Law Symposium
In-Reply-To: <2ade1b1a3935417cb711dbdcf7f38529@citizen.org>
References: <2ade1b1a3935417cb711dbdcf7f38529@citizen.org>
Message-ID: <33da7d79-1376-e455-5d10-e8ef97d6dc5c@softwarefreedom.org>

This conference and call for papers may be of interest to some  of you.




ACM Inaugural Computer Science and Law Symposium
Call for Submission of Student Papers

Overview: The organizers of the inaugural ACM Symposium on Computer
Science and Law invite students at the undergraduate and graduate levels
to submit papers addressing topics in the intersection of computing and
the law.

CFP and Submission Page: https://easychair.org/cfp/CSLaw2019

The Symposium will be held on October 28-29, 2019, at New York Law
School in the Tribeca neighborhood of NYC. Its main goals are to
stimulate interest in Computer Science and Law, broadly defined, and to
articulate a research agenda, an educational agenda, and specific
recommendations about how ACM and other interested institutions can
support work in this emerging field.  This competition is designed to
showcase work already going on in CS+Law educational programs and to
seed fruitful discussion about how ACM can support and expand the
educational agenda in this field.

The complete conference website is here: https://computersciencelaw.org/

List of Topics
Security, privacy, encryption, and surveillance
Cyber espionage, cyber war, and cyber diplomacy
Cyber crime, cyber law enforcement, and digital forensics
Freedom of expression online (or the lack thereof)
Online market structure, platform monopolies, and antitrust law
Online government services
Digital intellectual property
Legal informatics
Automation of legal reasoning and legal services
Fairness, accountability, transparency, and ethics (FATE) in machine
learning and data mining
Methodological compatibility and incompatibility between the discipline
of computer science and the discipline of law.

Submission Guidelines
We encourage submissions of papers written for university courses
covering topics in computing and law. Courses listed in departments or
schools of computer science, law, public policy, information science,
information studies, and other relevant disciplines are eligible.  In
additional, we encourage students who have completed substantial course
projects that aren’t papers, including development of computer systems
that address policy challenges, to submit papers that describe those
projects and the findings and conclusions that they led to.

> Submission format: Maximum 10,000 word (or 10-page ACM double-column
format). Note: References do count toward the page limit, and
submissions should not be anonymized. Only PDF or Microsoft Word file
formats accepted.

> Please include with your submission the name and academic department(s)
home of the course for which the paper was originally prepared, if
applicable.

> Submission deadline: Submissions must be received by close of business
in your timezone on Friday 28 June 2019.

> Authorship limit: All authors must be students. Submissions may have
multiple authors. For multiple-author submissions, one author must be
designated to present the poster.
Author eligibility: All currently-enrolled students, as well as those
who were students at the time the submission was initially produced, are
eligible for to enter this completion. Faculty and other non-student
co-authors are not eligible.

> No proceedings: In order to preserve future publication opportunities
for the submitted works we are not publishing the submitted papers.
Winning entrants will have the option to have their posters appear on
the symposium website.

Competition Process
The Program Committee will select 10-20 submissions for poster
presentation at the October symposium. Between the notifications on
August 30 and the poster due date of October 11, members of the PC will
work with the winners and advise them on poster production.
The symposium organizers will provide a travel stipend for at least one
student per successful submission to present their work and attend the
entire symposium.

Please contact Daniel Weitzner <weitzner AT mit DOT edu> with any
questions about the competition.

Conference Organization
General Chair:
Joan Feigenbaum (Yale University, Computer Science Department)

Program Co-Chairs:

Pamela Samuelson (UC Berkeley, School of Law and Information School)
Daniel J. Weitzner (MIT, Internet Policy Research Initiative)

Program-Committee Members:
Norman Barbosa (Microsoft)
Steven M. Bellovin (Columbia University, Computer Science Department)
Ryan Calo (University of Washington, School of Law)
Ran Canetti (Boston University, Computer Science Department)
Mishi Choudhary (Software Freedom Law Center, India)
Andrew Crocker (Electronic Frontier Foundation)
Lothar Determann (Baker McKenzie)
Niva Elkin-Koren (University of Haifa, School of Law)
Nathaniel Gleicher (Facebook)
James Grimmelmann (Cornell University, Law School and Cornell Tech)
James Hendler (RPI, Computer Science Department; ACM Global Policy &
Public Affairs)
Jeanette Hofmann (Freie Universität Berlin, German Internet Institute)
Nicole Jones (Google)
Joshua Kroll (UC Berkeley Information School)
Brian LaMacchia (Microsoft)
Ilaria Liccardi (MIT, Internet Policy Research Initiative)
Stephanie Pell (West Point, Army Cyber Institute)
Aaron Roth (U. of Pennsylvania, Computer and Information Science Department)
Stefan Savage (UC San Diego, Computer Science and Engineering Department)
Nigel Shadbolt (University of Oxford, Jesus College and Computer Science
Department)
Eli Sugarman (Hewlett Foundation, Cyber Initiative)
Nico van Eijk (University of Amsterdam, Information Law Program)
Eric Vandevelde (Gibson Dunn)
David C. Vladeck (Georgetown University, Law School)

Venue
The conference will be at New York Law School, Tribeca, NY USA



-- 
Warm Regards
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Legal Director
Software Freedom Law Center
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From parminder at itforchange.net  Tue Jun 11 02:33:42 2019
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:03:42 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] Launch of Bot Populi at RightsCon
In-Reply-To: <BDCEA573-03F9-45B0-8450-74A63378EBB8@itforchange.net>
References: <BDCEA573-03F9-45B0-8450-74A63378EBB8@itforchange.net>
Message-ID: <ca7107e8-8411-e68f-f7c4-23e2ea3a3980@itforchange.net>



Dear colleagues,

You would have received our multiple mailers on this. We write to invite
all of you who are joining us for the JNC satellite event today, to also
join us at the same venue for the official launch of Bot Populi, an
online media space dedicated to thoughtful and meaningful coverage on
all things digital.
This endeavor is a joint effort of seven global organizations and we are
excited to be bringing it to RightsCon.

At 1.30 PM the Carthage-2, at Laico we will be showcasing the website
and talking more about the process behind it and also about how you can
be involved.

Please do join us.
Regards
IT for Change team

From jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org  Tue Jun 11 12:42:24 2019
From: jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?B?SmVhbiBGLiBRdcOpcmFsdA==?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:42:24 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: [JNC - Forum] A summary of the report of the UN
 High-Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
In-Reply-To: <00c001d52064$7ad49bf0$707dd3d0$@ch>
References: <00c001d52064$7ad49bf0$707dd3d0$@ch>
Message-ID: <16b476b5180.2824.705b097764579b2584e3d1b2b46a90a4@theiofoundation.org>

Dear all,

I think you may find this interesting, forwarded from another list.

http://nissaba.net/tldr/hlpdc-report/

Best,
Jean

--- Forwarded message ---
From: Richard Hill rhill at hill-a.ch
Date: June 11, 2019 3:47:04 PM
Subject: [JNC - Forum] A summary of the report of the UN High-Level Panel 
on Digital Cooperation
To: Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org forum at justnetcoalition.org

> Here is a very short summary of the cited report:
>
>
>  http://nissaba.net/tldr/hlpdc-report/
>
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Forum mailing list
> Forum at justnetcoalition.org
> http://mail.justnetcoalition.org/listinfo/forum




From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Jun 11 19:02:31 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 00:02:31 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] RightsCon Invitation: private meeting and info-sharing
 event on UN 1st Committee on cyber
Message-ID: <CAK78muQzo=2J13rfCQ=oTiWY8z+rFYj+uLNP8sTTpP2AiE+fZw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

If you are at RightsCon in Tunis and interested in finding out more about
the UN First Committee processes relevant to cybersecurity, specifically
the Group of Government Experts and Open Ended Working Group on
"Developments in the field of information and telecommunications in the
context of international security" (more information here
<https://www.gp-digital.org/un-first-committee-processes-on-responsible-state-behaviour-in-cyberspace-a-briefing/>),
come and join us for an information sharing session.

The session will be at the* Erythrean room in the Palais de Congres on
Thursday, June 13th from 12:45pm - 1:45pm.*

We'll be discussing both processes and opportunities for non-government
stakeholders to engage.

Please share this invitation with anyone you think may be interested. I
would also be grateful if you could RSVP so I have an idea of numbers.

Best
Sheetal.

-- 


*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sun Jun  2 19:22:46 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 19:22:46 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: How to proceed with the Christchurch Call?
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvBLE0SdvFr0xvMH39vQxfZ+kgORJk5wdBu+8FY57h-rLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvBLE0SdvFr0xvMH39vQxfZ+kgORJk5wdBu+8FY57h-rLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvCzMEjxapCCSgy9f4uFKfzocjw+S6v8HfmZkaEx5YS9qw@mail.gmail.com>

The NZ government and Prime Minister Ardern were specifically interested in
receiving feedback on how to proceed with the Christchurch call and which
processes and forums should be used. We already mentioned some venues in
our collective input such as the Internet Governance Forum and others.
since we have a couple of days to discuss the appropriate processes and
perhaps submit a more elaborate process document to the NZ government, I
thought it would be good to start a thread here.

In my opinion, we need a couple of pre-requisite for the venues that
discuss content moderation online. Moreover, we need to discuss
pre-requisite about the pledge itself before moving forward with processes
through which the pledge can be implemented. I think one off processes or
annual meetings that can be selective about topics such as IGF or are by
invitation only might not be the best venues. Perhaps we can start by
creating a process that possesses certain criteria. We can use the
InternetNZ coordination space as the starting point and build on it. [
https://christchurchcallcoord.internetnz.nz]

The criteria that come to mind are the following.

   -

   A stand-alone process which solely focuses on the Christchurch call and
   the mandate of the process is defined by the community.
   -

   Some aspects of the pledge text are unacceptable to some part of the
   Internet community. Any process for implementation of the pledge should
   consider the shortcomings of the text and provide further clarifications on
   the terms that are used or discuss whether some clauses should be
   implemented.
   -

   Any process used to move the Christchurch call forward should be
   inclusive of all stakeholders and not be government run only.
   -

   There should be direct participation by civil society and other parts of
   the Internet community in the Christchurch call process and stakeholders
   should not be consulted with in silos and through parallel processes.
   -

   The process should be inclusive hence by invitation only workshops and
   conferences are not the preferred venues to discuss the Christchurch call.
   Raising awareness about the call in these venues might be suitable but
   discussions about the text and its implementation that should be done
   through a process whereby everyone on an equal footing can participate.

These criteria are a starting point and we can elaborate further. If you
have any other issue in mind regarding the process lets discuss here.
Farzaneh
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Thu Jun 13 13:53:25 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:53:25 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] The proposal for closing Bestbits and merging with IGC +
 next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next
 steps")
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muR--TVT=ENtfyk7Rc35fCHAk_QmRWjd23tG0HCgrrQOng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK78muTTBfjEfrOYbJmz7Xba=dN8WUYh9vY5THAaEOxSiYyArQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAGK4d08HVh+7xyHKnKeJeySSKT0wkhwzi0f+N7cyJcw64PtqdA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKsgsGwX5vUFre5KQZ240bj_XQ2cQV6tKEZ7p7b0TprieV1amg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTmtSRJygjEWvLx5-WoGVGMAjAt8E5a8wX0y4ngvTXutw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAK78muQwBJ1xfqgnosVwmKXVMXJPLHoT5Aty2MJWSpFTmsczAA@mail.gmail.com>
 <c606342da6974186908866b987583c25@syr.edu> <9fd097236d0c42d5a6a54f768bd0b2d8@adcu.columbia.edu>
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 <CAK78muRFaLGWtCVGrqreP599XvtXEqEVmUmQC-UpHmTgDPPunA@mail.gmail.com> <CAK78muR--TVT=ENtfyk7Rc35fCHAk_QmRWjd23tG0HCgrrQOng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK78muSjqqQ66pRnpohrxrDLn_ox+-9x3Zy=DwnixeuyXMmuLg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or Bestbits
which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward our
discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see agenda &
participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal below.

Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a need
identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation that
opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will arise
from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
framework should be developed.

Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
Committee processes on cybersecurity).

If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should there
be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after
July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please
do get in touch with us.

Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
(Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)

Agenda followed:
1) Introductions
2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement on
roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps


-- 


On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting in
> Tunis tomorrow.
>
> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me a
> line if you can.
>
> Please find the details below:
>
> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>
> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>
>    -
> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>
>
> *What/the agenda: *
>
> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>
> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>
> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
> (1-1.5 hours)*
> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45 minutes) *
>
> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>
> Best
>
> *Best*
>
> *Sheetal.*
>
>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan the
>> IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>
>>    - Room Dougga
>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>
>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be part
>> of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet before/after
>> the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed interest in this
>> effort so I can add you to that too.
>>
>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies off-thread
>>> expressing interest in the effort.
>>>
>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>> at RightsCon?
>>>
>>> On the way forward:
>>>
>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>    good wifi)
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>
>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>
>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>
>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>
>>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
>>>> <http://columbia.us8.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5b024e7a0c16e2779164ac24d&id=67263d095b>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this; ie
>>>> among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>> coordination right?
>>>>
>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>> this prof).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those of
>>>> us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants here:
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see below what
>>>> some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going forward.
>>>>
>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day 0
>>>>    event at IGF
>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal steering
>>>>    committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this effort
>>>>    come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>
>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've now
>>>> decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about civil
>>>> society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would be
>>>> helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>
>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Dear all,
>>>> >
>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an hour
>>>> at 1
>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> >
>>>> > Best
>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>> >
>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> >
>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> >
>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> >
>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> >
>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Dear all
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best
>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>> relevant.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's
>>>> happened
>>>> > > so far
>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>> participants of
>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion about
>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>> working,
>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox
>>>> is not
>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>> mailing-list.
>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so as
>>>> to be
>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits list
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>> problem. The
>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is managing
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited to
>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>> limited to
>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>> independent
>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group
>>>> should cease
>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>> group wants IGC
>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts on
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>> referring to.
>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>> privacy issue that
>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on this.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>> organization in the
>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many
>>>> hat remains.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>> only
>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>> the poll
>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to
>>>> the IGC list.
>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of Bestbits"
>>>> rather than
>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in these
>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society coordination,
>>>> and I know
>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>> conversations have
>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current
>>>> situation
>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network),
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society
>>>> coordination
>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>> gathered a
>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>> summary report of
>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there
>>>> was discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>> that however, it
>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>> agree a way
>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>> would be
>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm
>>>> the date and
>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions
>>>> so far!
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I have
>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a
>>>> summary included
>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first
>>>> half
>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>> founders and other
>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate call
>>>> too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to find
>>>> a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>> change
>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>> finding a way
>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>> widest possible
>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on
>>>> how to proceed,
>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle for
>>>> a follow up
>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would be
>>>> great
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If
>>>> you could fill
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>> decide next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if
>>>> you can,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>> into the next set
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>> see a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as
>>>> members of IGC, it
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>> views of all members.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note
>>>> which
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links
>>>> to the summaries of
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are invited
>>>> to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>> timely way, please
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>> yesterday. For
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the list
>>>> of participants
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways forward
>>>> for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>> December and the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>> Bestbits and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>> objectives,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we agreed
>>>> to circulate a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that
>>>> this survey with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>> future of the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to both
>>>> lists shortly,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>> steps is
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The
>>>> full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>> updated the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>> best time
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>> forward
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number will
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>> record and share the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>> Please let us know if
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an open
>>>> mailing list if you
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC
>>>> lists,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>> faced in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>> lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>> information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>> decision
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>> >and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated they
>>>> were available for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits member
>>>> you can join the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is just
>>>> to have a vague idea
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic,
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>> and the relevant
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch
>>>> base
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh
>>>> has kindly offered to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>> faced
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>> lists/establishment
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as
>>>> information sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that we
>>>> also reach out to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>> inform the discussion
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of
>>>> next
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the
>>>> conference room link
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and
>>>> have a
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with
>>>> what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>> really improve participation?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to be
>>>> done,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who
>>>> started
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same perceptions
>>>> and perspectives, same
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems unlikely
>>>> that
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>> (which many
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having some
>>>> difficulty with
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management tasks
>>>> for the group.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to do
>>>> that now or do we need
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>> Committee
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while since
>>>> it had
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the
>>>> 2012 ITU
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint
>>>> action
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>> steering
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had
>>>> driven
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There
>>>> were
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>> having
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>> funding.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>> resulted in
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of
>>>> rules
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>> weren't
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the
>>>> more
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for that.
>>>> But I
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to
>>>> it as
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>> nonprofit
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget
>>>> -q -i
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
>>>> list:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>> 114D 173B
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B
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>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>> E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>> E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>> E9E2
>>>> > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> > >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>> > >>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>> > >>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> > >>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>> ---
>>>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> > >>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>> > >>>>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> --
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> <
>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>> > >>> <
>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>> 0603
>>>> > > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F
>>>> > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> > ____________________________________________________________
>>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>> >      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>> >      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>
>

-- 


*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From williams.deirdre at gmail.com  Thu Jun 13 14:05:15 2019
From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 14:05:15 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] The proposal for closing Bestbits and merging with
 IGC + next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits:
 next steps")
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Congratulations!!!
Deirdre

On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, 13:53 Sheetal Kumar, <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or Bestbits
> which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward our
> discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see agenda &
> participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal below.
>
> Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a
> need identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation
> that opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will
> arise from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
> framework should be developed.
>
> Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
> Committee processes on cybersecurity).
>
> If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
> outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should there
> be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after
> July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please
> do get in touch with us.
>
> Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
> Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
> (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)
>
> Agenda followed:
> 1) Introductions
> 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
> 4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps
>
>
> --
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting in
>> Tunis tomorrow.
>>
>> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me a
>> line if you can.
>>
>> Please find the details below:
>>
>> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>>
>> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>>
>>    -
>> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>>
>>
>> *What/the agenda: *
>>
>> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>>
>> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>>
>> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>> (1-1.5 hours)*
>> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
>> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45 minutes) *
>>
>> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>>
>> Best
>>
>> *Best*
>>
>> *Sheetal.*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan
>>> the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>>
>>>    - Room Dougga
>>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>
>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be part
>>> of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet before/after
>>> the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed interest in this
>>> effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>
>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies off-thread
>>>> expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>
>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>>> at RightsCon?
>>>>
>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>
>>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>>    good wifi)
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <ba2482 at columbia.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>>
>>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>>
>>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
>>>>> <http://columbia.us8.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5b024e7a0c16e2779164ac24d&id=67263d095b>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this; ie
>>>>> among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>>> coordination right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>>> this prof).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those
>>>>> of us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants
>>>>> here:  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see
>>>>> below what some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going
>>>>> forward.
>>>>>
>>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day 0
>>>>>    event at IGF
>>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal steering
>>>>>    committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this effort
>>>>>    come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've now
>>>>> decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about
>>>>> civil society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would
>>>>> be helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>
>>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an hour
>>>>> at 1
>>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best
>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Dear all
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Best
>>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>> passcode
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
>>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>>> relevant.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's
>>>>> happened
>>>>> > > so far
>>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>>> participants of
>>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion
>>>>> about
>>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>>> working,
>>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox
>>>>> is not
>>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>>> mailing-list.
>>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so
>>>>> as to be
>>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits
>>>>> list to
>>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>>> problem. The
>>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is
>>>>> managing the
>>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>>> limited to
>>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>>> independent
>>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group
>>>>> should cease
>>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>>> group wants IGC
>>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts
>>>>> on the
>>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>>> referring to.
>>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>>> privacy issue that
>>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on
>>>>> this.
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>>> organization in the
>>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many
>>>>> hat remains.
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>>> only
>>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>>> the poll
>>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to
>>>>> the IGC list.
>>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of
>>>>> Bestbits" rather than
>>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in
>>>>> these
>>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society
>>>>> coordination, and I know
>>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>>> conversations have
>>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current
>>>>> situation
>>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network),
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society
>>>>> coordination
>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>>> gathered a
>>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>>> summary report of
>>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there
>>>>> was discussion
>>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>>> that however, it
>>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>>> agree a way
>>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>>> would be
>>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm
>>>>> the date and
>>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions
>>>>> so far!
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a
>>>>> summary included
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first
>>>>> half
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>>> founders and other
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate
>>>>> call too.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to
>>>>> find a way
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>>> change
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>>> finding a way
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>>> widest possible
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on
>>>>> how to proceed,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle
>>>>> for a follow up
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would
>>>>> be great
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If
>>>>> you could fill
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>>> decide next
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if
>>>>> you can,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>>> into the next set
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>>> see a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as
>>>>> members of IGC, it
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>>> views of all members.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note
>>>>> which
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links
>>>>> to the summaries of
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are
>>>>> invited to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>>> timely way, please
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>>> yesterday. For
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the
>>>>> list of participants
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways
>>>>> forward for
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>>> December and the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>>> Bestbits and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>>> objectives,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we
>>>>> agreed to circulate a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that
>>>>> this survey with
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>>> future of the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to
>>>>> both lists shortly,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>>> steps is
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*.
>>>>> The full
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>>> updated the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>>> best time
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>>> forward
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number
>>>>> will
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>>> record and share the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>>> Please let us know if
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an open
>>>>> mailing list if you
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC
>>>>> lists,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>>> faced in
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>>> information sharing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>>> decision
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>> >and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated they
>>>>> were available for
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits
>>>>> member you can join the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is just
>>>>> to have a vague idea
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic,
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>>> and the relevant
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch
>>>>> base
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh
>>>>> has kindly offered to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call
>>>>> to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>>> faced
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as
>>>>> information sharing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that
>>>>> we also reach out to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>>> inform the discussion
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of
>>>>> next
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the
>>>>> conference room link
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and
>>>>> have a
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with
>>>>> what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>>> really improve participation?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to
>>>>> be done,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who
>>>>> started
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same
>>>>> perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems
>>>>> unlikely that
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>>> (which many
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having
>>>>> some difficulty with
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management
>>>>> tasks for the group.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to
>>>>> do that now or do we need
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while
>>>>> since it had
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the
>>>>> 2012 ITU
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint
>>>>> action
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside
>>>>> and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>>> steering
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had
>>>>> driven
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There
>>>>> were
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>>> having
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>>> funding.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>>> resulted in
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of
>>>>> rules
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>>> weren't
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the
>>>>> more
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for
>>>>> that. But I
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to
>>>>> it as
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>>> nonprofit
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~'
>>>>> 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
>>>>> list:
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>> 114D 173B
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>> E9E2
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>> E9E2
>>>>> > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> > >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>> > >>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> ---
>>>>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>> > >>>>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>> 0603
>>>>> > > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
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>>>>> > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>> > ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From anriette at apc.org  Fri Jun 14 05:39:23 2019
From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen)
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:39:23 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] RightsCon Session on Tunis 2005
Message-ID: <4aa7bb40-7400-7da0-d178-bff83e13126c@apc.org>

Dear all

Anyone who was around during the WSIS, and who is in Tunis at RightsCon,
or anyone who is interested in learning more about the process.. about
how different Tunis was then, please join us today, Friday, at 12h00
Tunis time.

https://rightscon2019.sched.com/event/Q5xl/tunis-1334-from-the-tunis-agenda-to-rightscon-tunis-its-been-a-lifetime-of-internet-governance

Anriette

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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Tue Jun 18 07:01:09 2019
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:01:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Colleagues, Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019: 

Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized Candidates? 

MAG 2020 Renewal

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MAG 2020 Renewal

Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
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The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

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MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
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Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
    3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
    1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
    1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
    2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)


Best regards,
Imran Ahmed Shah
[Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan][Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]

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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Tue Jun 25 02:44:31 2019
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 06:44:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>

 Just for reminder.....Deadline is ending soon.....
Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019

Regards
Imran
    On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:  
 
 Dear Colleagues, Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019: 

Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized Candidates? 

MAG 2020 Renewal

| 
| 
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|  |  |

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|  | 
MAG 2020 Renewal

Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
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The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

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|  | 
MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
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Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
    3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
    1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
    1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
    2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)


Best regards,
Imran Ahmed Shah
[Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan][Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]

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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Jun 25 05:06:24 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:06:24 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com> <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Imran, Arsene, all

Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are there
are civil society positions to fill this year?

Best
Sheetal

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
wrote:

> Just for reminder.....
> Deadline is ending soon.....
>
> Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June
> 2019
>
> Regards
>
> Imran
>
> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020
> MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>
> Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out
> suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized
> Candidates?
>
> MAG 2020 Renewal
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>
> MAG 2020 Renewal
>
> Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory
> Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>
> The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding
> nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF
> website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>
> MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>
> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder
> Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>
> Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
> [Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
> [Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>
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Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Tue Jun 25 05:44:29 2019
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:44:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com> <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com> <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <749405805.1589889.1561455869750@mail.yahoo.com>

 No, 
not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....   

.....the overall composition depends on several considerations including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN Secretary-General......

    On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:  
 
 Dear Imran, Arsene, all

Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are there are civil society positions to fill this year?

BestSheetal

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:

 Just for reminder.....Deadline is ending soon.....
Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019

Regards
Imran
    On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:  
 
 Dear Colleagues, Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019: 

Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized Candidates? 

MAG 2020 Renewal

| 
| 
| 
|  |  |

 |

 |
| 
|  | 
MAG 2020 Renewal

Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
 |

 |

 |


The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

| 
| 
| 
|  |  |

 |

 |
| 
|  | 
MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
 |

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 |


Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
    3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
    1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
    1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
    2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)


Best regards,
Imran Ahmed Shah
[Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan][Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]

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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Tue Jun 25 06:11:27 2019
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (ian.peter at ianpeter.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 10:11:27 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <02142E5B-465B-4D4F-959C-C6E2C8E1CFDB@gmail.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <749405805.1589889.1561455869750@mail.yahoo.com>
 <02142E5B-465B-4D4F-959C-C6E2C8E1CFDB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <em4d4ce69d-2e0d-4a05-a423-ba5ca2c69f6c@desktop-rub0n2r>

The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership geographic 
and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more 
importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a 
geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates 
from other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.

Ian Peter

------ Original Message ------
From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
To: ias_pk at yahoo.com
Cc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" 
<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" 
<governance at lists.riseup.net>
Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PM
Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process

>Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do 
>send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if 
>someone resigns?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing 
>List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>>No,
>>not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by 
>>the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the 
>>strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....
>>
>>.....the overall composition depends on several considerations 
>>including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of 
>>the UN Secretary-General......
>>
>>On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar 
>><sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dear Imran, Arsene, all
>>
>>Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are 
>>there are civil society positions to fill this year?
>>
>>Best
>>Sheetal
>>
>>On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah 
>><bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:
>>>Just for reminder.....
>>>Deadline is ending soon.....
>>>
>>>Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 
>>>June 2019
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Imran
>>>
>>>On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah 
>>><governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>>Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 
>>>2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>>>
>>>Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out 
>>>suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized 
>>>Candidates?
>>>
>>>MAG 2020 Renewal 
>>><https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>
>>>MAG 2020 Renewal
>>>Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder 
>>>Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
>>>
>>><https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>
>>>The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding 
>>>nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF 
>>>website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance 
>>><https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>
>>>MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>>Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder 
>>>Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>>>
>>><https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>
>>>Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>>>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>>>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>>>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>>>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>[Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>[Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>
>>>---
>>>To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
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>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>Sheetal Kumar
>>Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Jun 25 06:51:30 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:51:30 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <em4d4ce69d-2e0d-4a05-a423-ba5ca2c69f6c@desktop-rub0n2r>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com> <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <749405805.1589889.1561455869750@mail.yahoo.com> <02142E5B-465B-4D4F-959C-C6E2C8E1CFDB@gmail.com>
 <em4d4ce69d-2e0d-4a05-a423-ba5ca2c69f6c@desktop-rub0n2r>
Message-ID: <CAK78muRpbgmxE4SYxVkk-cLAQxtsC3b2c_ftr9AsNsoxd0yX5A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the clarification.

Unfortunately we only have 3.5 working days left to run the process and I
don't think this leaves adequate time for the setting up of the NomCom, the
sharing of the call, the collection of candidacies and the discussion among
CSCG reps to take place. From what I remember we normally leave at least a
week for people to send their nominations to the NomCom.

In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as widely as
possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented regions
and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running a
meaningful process next year.

What do you think?



On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:12, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
wrote:

> The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership geographic
> and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more
> importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a
> geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates from
> other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com
> Cc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" <
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
>
> Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do
> send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if
> someone resigns?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List) <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
> No,
> not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by the
> selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the strength
> .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....
>
> .....the overall composition *depends on several considerations including
> the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN
> Secretary-General*......
>
> On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <
> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Imran, Arsene, all
>
> Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are there
> are civil society positions to fill this year?
>
> Best
> Sheetal
>
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:
>
> Just for reminder.....
> Deadline is ending soon.....
>
> Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June
> 2019
>
> Regards
>
> Imran
>
> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020
> MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>
> Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out
> suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized
> Candidates?
>
> MAG 2020 Renewal
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>
> MAG 2020 Renewal
>
> Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory
> Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>
> The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding
> nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF
> website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>
> MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>
> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder
> Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>
> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>
> Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
> [Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
> [Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 07:55:23 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:55:23 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muRpbgmxE4SYxVkk-cLAQxtsC3b2c_ftr9AsNsoxd0yX5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree. It's too late.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:51 AM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
wrote:

> Thanks all for the clarification.
>
> Unfortunately we only have 3.5 working days left to run the process and I
> don't think this leaves adequate time for the setting up of the NomCom, the
> sharing of the call, the collection of candidacies and the discussion among
> CSCG reps to take place. From what I remember we normally leave at least a
> week for people to send their nominations to the NomCom.
>
> In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as widely
> as possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented
> regions and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running
> a meaningful process next year.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:12, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
>> The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership geographic
>> and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more
>> importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a
>> geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates from
>> other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.
>>
>> Ian Peter
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" <
>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
>>
>> Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do
>> send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if
>> someone resigns?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List) <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> No,
>> not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by
>> the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the
>> strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....
>>
>> .....the overall composition *depends on several considerations
>> including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN
>> Secretary-General*......
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <
>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Imran, Arsene, all
>>
>> Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are there
>> are civil society positions to fill this year?
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:
>>
>> Just for reminder.....
>> Deadline is ending soon.....
>>
>> Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June
>> 2019
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Imran
>>
>> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020
>> MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>>
>> Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out
>> suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized
>> Candidates?
>>
>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>
>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>>
>> Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory
>> Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>
>> The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding
>> nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF
>> website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>
>> MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>
>> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder
>> Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>>
>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>
>> Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>> [Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>> [Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>
>> ---
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>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From maryant.fernandez at beuc.eu  Mon Jun  3 12:57:29 2019
From: maryant.fernandez at beuc.eu (Maryant Fernandez (BEUC))
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:57:29 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] EDRi is looking for a new Head of Policy. Deadline to
 apply: 16 June
Message-ID:  <DB7PR02MB4185A977D065A0EA56551436EC140@DB7PR02MB4185.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Dear all,

I’m happy to share a job ad from my former employer, European Digital Rights (EDRi).
They are looking for a Head of Policy<https://edri.org/edri-is-looking-for-a-new-head-of-policy/>. Are you interested? Please apply by 16 June and/or share the job ad with your contacts.

I put EDRi’s Executive Director Claire Fernández in cc in case you have any questions.

Good luck if you’re applying!

Cheers,
Maryant
EDRi is looking for a new Head of Policy

European Digital Rights (EDRi) is an international not-for-profit association of 42 digital human rights organisations. We defend and promote rights and freedoms in the digital environment, such as the right to privacy, personal data protection, freedom of expression, and access to information.

EDRi is looking for an experienced, strategic and dedicated Head of Policy to join EDRi’s team in Brussels. This is a unique opportunity to be part of the growth of a well-respected network of NGOs making a tangible difference in the defence and promotion of online rights and freedoms in Europe and beyond. This is a full-time, permanent position. The deadline to apply has been extended until 16 June 2019.

The Head of Policy will provide strategic leadership to EDRi Policy Team and designs policy and advocacy strategies in line with EDRi’s Strategic objectives and in consultation with member organisations. S/he is expected to bring a strategic vision on human rights in the digital environment as well as solid experience on human rights advocacy and digital rights. The successful candidate will have a strong track record in policy development and strategic planning in addition to an excellent understanding of working in the EU or national policy/advocacy environment.

We are an equal opportunities employer with a strong commitment to transparency and inclusion. We strive to have a diverse and inclusive working environment. We encourage individual members of groups at risk of racism or other forms of discrimination to apply for this post.

Job title: Head of Policy
Reports to: Executive Director
Location: EDRi Office, Brussels, Belgium
Line management: The Head of Policy leads the advocacy effort of the Policy Team (4 persons) while the team is line managed by the Executive Director. The Head of Policy will participate in the Policy staff members’ appraisal and objective setting meetings. With the future growth of the organisation, and in consultation with employees, the position can include line management responsibilities.
[https://edri.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/head_of_policy.png]

RESPONSIBILITIES:

As Head of Policy, your main tasks will be to:

  *   Advocate for the protection of digital rights, such as in the areas of data protection, privacy, freedom of expression, platform regulation, surveillance and law enforcement, telecommunications and digital trade;
  *   Contribute to and evaluate progress towards EDRi policy strategic outcomes and develop activities in response to the external environment and in partnership with the team, members and the Board;
  *   Provide the Policy Team with strategic advice and lead on advocacy strategies, including by coordinating, designing, and executing policy strategies and workplans in line with EDRi overall strategic objectives;
  *   Draft and oversee the production of all policy documents, such as briefings, position papers, amendments, advocacy one-pagers, letters, blogposts, and EDRi-gram articles;
  *   Support and work closely with EDRi colleagues including policy, communications, and campaigns – ensuring smooth working relations between the Policy Team and other teams – and report to the Executive Director;
  *   Coordinate and collaborate with EDRi members on relevant legislative processes in the EU, including coordinating working groups, developing policy positions and campaign messages;
  *   Collaborate with the EDRi team to communicate to the public about relevant legislative processes and EDRi’s activities;
  *   Provide policy-makers with expert, timely, and accurate input and organise and participate in expert meetings;
  *   Develop and strengthen relationships with civil society partners, EU institutions, government and institutional officials, academics and industry representatives working on related issues;
  *   Represent – when relevant and in collaboration with the Executive Director and the Policy Team – the organisation as a spokesperson at public events, meetings and to the media.

QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE:

  *   Passionate about digital rights and enthusiasm to work within a small team to make a big difference;
  *   Minimum 6 years of relevant experience in a similar role;
  *   A university degree in law, EU affairs, policy, human rights or related field or equivalent experience;
  *   Demonstrable knowledge of, and interest in human rights, in particular privacy, net neutrality, digital trade, surveillance and law enforcement, freedom of expression, as well as other internet policy issues;
  *   Knowledge and understanding of the EU, its institutions and its role in digital rights policies;
  *   Experience in leading advocacy efforts and creating networks of influence;
  *   Exceptional written and oral communications skills;
  *   Technical IT skills and knowledge of free and open source operating systems and software are a plus;
  *   Strong multitasking abilities and ability to manage multiple deadlines;
  *   Experience of working with and in small teams;
  *   Experience of organising events and/or workshops;
  *   Ability to work in English. Other European languages an advantage.

How to apply:

To apply, please send a maximum one-page cover letter and a maximum two-page CV in English and in .pdf format to applications(at)edri.org by 16 June 2019.

Please note that only shortlisted candidates will be contacted.
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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Tue Jun 25 07:58:20 2019
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:58:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muRpbgmxE4SYxVkk-cLAQxtsC3b2c_ftr9AsNsoxd0yX5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com> <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com> <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com> <749405805.1589889.1561455869750@mail.yahoo.com> <02142E5B-465B-4D4F-959C-C6E2C8E1CFDB@gmail.com> <em4d4ce69d-2e0d-4a05-a423-ba5ca2c69f6c@desktop-rub0n2r> <CAK78muRpbgmxE4SYxVkk-cLAQxtsC3b2c_ftr9AsNsoxd0yX5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1170570724.1590187.1561463900694@mail.yahoo.com>

 Dear Sheetal,Thanks for your reply and Clarification,.....'about the setting up CSCG', it has to be started at least 3 weeks ago... 

>In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as widely as possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented regions and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running a meaningful process next year.
Yes, I will also appreciate to find and encouraging CS from underrepresented regions... there are more chances to get representation at IGF MAG.
Reference:
"Countries that were not represented or were under-represented in previous MAG compositions will have an advantage over those that have had continuous or frequent representation on the MAG."

Regards
Imran Ahmed Shah

    On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 15:51:57 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:  
 
 Thanks all for the clarification. 

Unfortunately we only have 3.5 working days left to run the process and I don't think this leaves adequate time for the setting up of the NomCom, the sharing of the call, the collection of candidacies and the discussion among CSCG reps to take place. From what I remember we normally leave at least a week for people to send their nominations to the NomCom. 

In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as widely as possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented regions and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running a meaningful process next year.

What do you think?



On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:12, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:

The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership geographic and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates from other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.
Ian Peter
------ Original Message ------From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>To: ias_pk at yahoo.comCc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <governance at lists.riseup.net>Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PMSubject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process

Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if someone resigns?

Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:


 No, 
not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....   

.....the overall composition depends on several considerations including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN Secretary-General......

    On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:  
 
 Dear Imran, Arsene, all

Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are there are civil society positions to fill this year?

BestSheetal

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:

 Just for reminder.....Deadline is ending soon.....
Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019

Regards
Imran
    On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:  
 
 Dear Colleagues, Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019: 

Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized Candidates? 

MAG 2020 Renewal

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The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance

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Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
    3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
    1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
    1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
    2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)


Best regards,
Imran Ahmed Shah
[Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan][Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]

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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 08:23:58 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:23:58 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
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References: <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1851302610.3018407.1560855669680@mail.yahoo.com> <1775795332.1529901.1561445071396@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAK78muQFnybax1pMuZABP363kos4HhBgqLBJo4t6NY1UDqL=Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <749405805.1589889.1561455869750@mail.yahoo.com> <02142E5B-465B-4D4F-959C-C6E2C8E1CFDB@gmail.com>
 <em4d4ce69d-2e0d-4a05-a423-ba5ca2c69f6c@desktop-rub0n2r> <CAK78muRpbgmxE4SYxVkk-cLAQxtsC3b2c_ftr9AsNsoxd0yX5A@mail.gmail.com>
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Actually it was shared. But it was very recent.

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:21 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought we have some representatives in MAG, why was this no shared
> earlier enough or may be with a timeline?
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> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:55 PM farzaneh badii <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree. It's too late.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:51 AM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for the clarification.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately we only have 3.5 working days left to run the process and
>>> I don't think this leaves adequate time for the setting up of the NomCom,
>>> the sharing of the call, the collection of candidacies and the discussion
>>> among CSCG reps to take place. From what I remember we normally leave at
>>> least a week for people to send their nominations to the NomCom.
>>>
>>> In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as widely
>>> as possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented
>>> regions and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running
>>> a meaningful process next year.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:12, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
>>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership
>>>> geographic and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more
>>>> importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a
>>>> geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates from
>>>> other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.
>>>>
>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com
>>>> Cc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" <
>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
>>>>
>>>> Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do
>>>> send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if
>>>> someone resigns?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing
>>>> List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No,
>>>> not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by
>>>> the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the
>>>> strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....
>>>>
>>>> .....the overall composition *depends on several considerations
>>>> including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN
>>>> Secretary-General*......
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Imran, Arsene, all
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are
>>>> there are civil society positions to fill this year?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just for reminder.....
>>>> Deadline is ending soon.....
>>>>
>>>> Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June
>>>> 2019
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Imran
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the
>>>> 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>>>>
>>>> Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out
>>>> suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized
>>>> Candidates?
>>>>
>>>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>>
>>>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>>>>
>>>> Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder
>>>> Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>>
>>>> The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding
>>>> nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF
>>>> website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>>
>>>> MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>>>
>>>> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder
>>>> Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>>
>>>> Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>>>>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>>>>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>>>>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>>>>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>> [Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>> [Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>> <igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>
>> --
>> Farzaneh
>> ---
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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Tue Jun 25 08:43:44 2019
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:43:44 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvDSYj78HKo3jPOekoMw7WqCP2JwTmA6uv00vooCRDKxMA@mail.gmail.com>
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It was indeed shared!  But, considering that the open positions were for
other stakeholders I guess the majority interpreted as if there were no
action to be taken regarding the call.

Best,
Bruna

Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 09:24, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Actually it was shared. But it was very recent.
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:21 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought we have some representatives in MAG, why was this no shared
>> earlier enough or may be with a timeline?
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>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:55 PM farzaneh badii <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. It's too late.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 6:51 AM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the clarification.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately we only have 3.5 working days left to run the process and
>>>> I don't think this leaves adequate time for the setting up of the NomCom,
>>>> the sharing of the call, the collection of candidacies and the discussion
>>>> among CSCG reps to take place. From what I remember we normally leave at
>>>> least a week for people to send their nominations to the NomCom.
>>>>
>>>> In light of this, we can make the effort to publicise the call as
>>>> widely as possible among our networks, encouraging CS from underrepresented
>>>> regions and with a view to gender balance to apply. We can work on running
>>>> a meaningful process next year.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 11:12, ian.peter at ianpeter.com <
>>>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The other thing is that in decision making for MAG membership
>>>>> geographic and gender balance will be taken into account, perhaps even more
>>>>> importantly than stakeholder groups. So if we have a CS candidate from a
>>>>> geographic area not covered adequately by current reps or candidates from
>>>>> other groups there is a fair chance they might be selected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Arsène Tungali" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>> To: ias_pk at yahoo.com
>>>>> Cc: "Sheetal Kumar" <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; "BestBitsList" <
>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>; "governance at lists.riseup.net" <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>> Sent: 25/06/2019 8:04:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] MAG 2020 Renewal Process
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though there is no explicit need for CS reps this year, please do
>>>>> send in nominations. Maybe there will be available slots? Such as if
>>>>> someone resigns?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 10:44, Imran Ahmed Shah (via governance Mailing
>>>>> List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>> not as per the numbers of term rotation, but .... may be acceptable by
>>>>> the selection Team ..... or if they plan to increase or decrease the
>>>>> strength .... like few years ago, they reduced 1 CS seat ....
>>>>>
>>>>> .....the overall composition *depends on several considerations
>>>>> including the nominations received, as well as the final decision of the UN
>>>>> Secretary-General*......
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 25 June 2019, 14:06:40 GMT+5, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Imran, Arsene, all
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for sharing and the reminder. I just wanted to check, are
>>>>> there are civil society positions to fill this year?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 07:44, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for reminder.....
>>>>> Deadline is ending soon.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Deadline for nominating candidates for the 2020 MAG Renewal is 30
>>>>> June 2019
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Imran
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 18 June 2019, 16:01:38 GMT+5, Imran Ahmed Shah <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to reminder that the deadline for nominating candidates for the
>>>>> 2020 MAG Renewal is 30 June 2019:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have CSCG activities for collection of Nominations, Sorting-out
>>>>> suitable candidates and further submission of names of finalized
>>>>> Candidates?
>>>>>
>>>>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>>>
>>>>> MAG 2020 Renewal
>>>>>
>>>>> Announcement ‎ The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder
>>>>> Advisory Group (MAG) has been ‎instrumental in p...
>>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2020-renewal>
>>>>>
>>>>> The general guidance and notes to take into consideration regarding
>>>>> nominations for a position on the MAG are also available at the IGF
>>>>> website: MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>>>
>>>>> MAG Renewal 2020: General guidance
>>>>>
>>>>> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)2020 Renewal of the Multistakeholder
>>>>> Advisory Group (MAG) General guidance and no...
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-renewal-2020-general-guidance>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas they were looking for 7 male candidates
>>>>>     3 from Africa, (2 Government, 1 Private Sector)
>>>>>     1 from Asia Pacific, (1 Government)
>>>>>     1 from Eastern Europe  (1 Private Sector)
>>>>>     2 from GRULAC.  (1 Private Sector and 1 Technical Community)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>>> [Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>>> [Youth Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan]
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net
>>>>> <igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>>
>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/68-80+Hanbury+Street,+London,+E1+5JL?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>> --
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Jun 25 08:55:07 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:55:07 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] IGF 2019 Workshop Selection Results
Message-ID: <CAK78muTHuFhE+BboOPdy8SsnhdMZ0TpTjnqsxmMsRVt7gFfh0A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

I'm not sure if this has been shared already but if not, see below:

https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2019-workshop-selection-results

-- 


*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Wed Jun 26 12:52:06 2019
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:52:06 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] is anybody following this in Mexico?
Message-ID: <CAK-FJAeihg9NowiVA+i5S2z83W8-FOH1WmsDFzCyLDkUkHUpyg@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.telecompaper.com/news/altan-redes-to-use-tutela-data-to-benchmark-mobile-network-performance--1292830
Altan Redes to use Tutela data to benchmark mobile network performanceWednesday
15 May 2019 | 10:46 CET | News
Altan Redes, the consortium developing Mexico’s 4G shared network (Red
Compartida
<https://www.telecompaper.com/news/mexicos-red-compartida-on-track-to-cover-50-of-population-this-year--1284467>),
has signed an agreement to access Tutela’s data on the country’s mobile
market. The data collected from millions of mobile devices will be used to
compare the performance of the network and improve its overall quality,
said Tutela, adding that Altan will have access to its Tutela Explorer data
analysis platform. The tool will enable the wholesale provider to visualise
and analyse some 500 million lines of data on Mexican networks
simultaneously at any time of the day, including the intensity and quality
of the signal, device use and download speed patterns.

The first phase of Red Compartida was activated on the on the 700MHz band
in March 2018 and covered around 32 percent of the country’s population,
with the network due to reach around half of the country’s population by
the end of this year and 92 percent by 2024.

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*Carolina Rossini *
+ 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolina.rossini_2 | @carolinarossini
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Thu Jun 27 09:23:55 2019
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 14:23:55 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] The proposal for closing Bestbits and
 merging with IGC + next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of
 Bestbits: next steps")
In-Reply-To: <CAMc__oo1qJkdWP41xKAbxXB7diLNuZa4HbH=1kbPot=0ch3nvw@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear all,

Thanks to all those who have inputted so far! It's great to see support for
the proposal shared earlier this month. This is just a gentle reminder to
weigh in on the proposal before *July 5th*, which I've recopied in italics
below.

Best
Sheetal.

*Meeting of IGC & BB participants, June 11th, 2019, RightsCon, Tunis*

*Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
<https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>. There was a need
identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation that
opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will arise
from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
framework should be developed.*


*Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
Committee processes on cybersecurity). *


*If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
outlined above, please share your perspectives by 05 July. Should there be
no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after July
05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please do
get in touch with us.*

*Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
(Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)*


*Agenda followed:*



*1) Introductions 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed 3)
Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why organise
the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be? 4)
Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement on
roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps *

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks
> A better option.
> Regards
> Remmy Nweke
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 18:57 Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or
>> Bestbits which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward
>> our discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see
>> agenda & participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal
>> below.
>>
>> Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
>> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
>> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
>> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
>> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
>> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
>> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
>> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
>> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a
>> need identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation
>> that opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will
>> arise from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
>> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
>> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
>> framework should be developed.
>>
>> Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
>> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
>> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
>> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
>> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
>> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
>> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
>> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
>> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
>> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
>> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
>> Committee processes on cybersecurity).
>>
>> If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
>> outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should
>> there be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented
>> after July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far,
>> please do get in touch with us.
>>
>> Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
>> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
>> Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
>> (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
>> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
>> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)
>>
>> Agenda followed:
>> 1) Introductions
>> 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
>> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>> 4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
>> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting in
>>> Tunis tomorrow.
>>>
>>> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me
>>> a line if you can.
>>>
>>> Please find the details below:
>>>
>>> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>>>
>>> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>>>
>>>    -
>>> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>>>
>>>
>>> *What/the agenda: *
>>>
>>> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>>>
>>> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>>>
>>> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>> (1-1.5 hours)*
>>> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee?
>>> Agreement on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45
>>> minutes) *
>>>
>>> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> *Best*
>>>
>>> *Sheetal.*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan
>>>> the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>>>
>>>>    - Room Dougga
>>>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>
>>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be part
>>>> of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet before/after
>>>> the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed interest in this
>>>> effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>
>>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>>> off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>>>> at RightsCon?
>>>>>
>>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>>>    good wifi)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <
>>>>> ba2482 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
>>>>>> <http://columbia.us8.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5b024e7a0c16e2779164ac24d&id=67263d095b>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this;
>>>>>> ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>>>> coordination right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>>>> this prof).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those
>>>>>> of us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants
>>>>>> here:  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see
>>>>>> below what some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going
>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day 0
>>>>>>    event at IGF
>>>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal
>>>>>>    steering committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this
>>>>>>    effort come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've
>>>>>> now decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about
>>>>>> civil society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would
>>>>>> be helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an
>>>>>> hour at 1
>>>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best
>>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Dear all
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Best
>>>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
>>>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's
>>>>>> happened
>>>>>> > > so far
>>>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>>>> participants of
>>>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>>>> working,
>>>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org
>>>>>> mailbox is not
>>>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>>>> mailing-list.
>>>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so
>>>>>> as to be
>>>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits
>>>>>> list to
>>>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>>>> problem. The
>>>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is
>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>>>> independent
>>>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the
>>>>>> group should cease
>>>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>>>> group wants IGC
>>>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>>>> referring to.
>>>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>>>> privacy issue that
>>>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>>>> organization in the
>>>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many
>>>>>> hat remains.
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>>>> the poll
>>>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to
>>>>>> the IGC list.
>>>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of
>>>>>> Bestbits" rather than
>>>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society
>>>>>> coordination, and I know
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>>>> conversations have
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current
>>>>>> situation
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network),
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil
>>>>>> society coordination
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>>>> gathered a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>>>> summary report of
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there
>>>>>> was discussion
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>>>> that however, it
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>>>> agree a way
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm
>>>>>> the date and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and
>>>>>> contributions so far!
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a
>>>>>> summary included
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the
>>>>>> first half
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>>>> founders and other
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate
>>>>>> call too.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to
>>>>>> find a way
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>>>> finding a way
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>>>> widest possible
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on
>>>>>> how to proceed,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle
>>>>>> for a follow up
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would
>>>>>> be great
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If
>>>>>> you could fill
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>>>> decide next
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank
>>>>>> you to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if
>>>>>> you can,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>>>> into the next set
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>>>> see a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well
>>>>>> as members of IGC, it
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>>>> views of all members.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links
>>>>>> to the summaries of
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are
>>>>>> invited to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>>>> timely way, please
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>>>> yesterday. For
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the
>>>>>> list of participants
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways
>>>>>> forward for
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>>>> December and the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>>>> Bestbits and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>>>> objectives,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we
>>>>>> agreed to circulate a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested
>>>>>> that this survey with
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>>>> future of the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to
>>>>>> both lists shortly,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>>>> steps is
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*.
>>>>>> The full
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>>>> updated the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>>>> best time
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>>>> forward
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the
>>>>>> 11th!
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>>>> record and share the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>>>> Please let us know if
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an
>>>>>> open mailing list if you
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC
>>>>>> lists,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues
>>>>>> faced in
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>>>> information sharing
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>>>> decision
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>> >and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated
>>>>>> they were available for
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits
>>>>>> member you can join the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is
>>>>>> just to have a vague idea
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this
>>>>>> topic, and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>>>> and the relevant
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch
>>>>>> base
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and
>>>>>> Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>> issues faced
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists
>>>>>> as information sharing
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call,
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that
>>>>>> we also reach out to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>>>> inform the discussion
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of
>>>>>> next
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send
>>>>>> the conference room link
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line
>>>>>> with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>>>> really improve participation?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to
>>>>>> be done,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same
>>>>>> perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems
>>>>>> unlikely that
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>>>> (which many
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having
>>>>>> some difficulty with
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management
>>>>>> tasks for the group.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss
>>>>>> issues and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to
>>>>>> do that now or do we need
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while
>>>>>> since it had
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the
>>>>>> 2012 ITU
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint
>>>>>> action
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>>>> steering
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had
>>>>>> driven
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too.
>>>>>> There were
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>>>> funding.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>>>> resulted in
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of
>>>>>> rules
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>>>> weren't
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that
>>>>>> the more
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for
>>>>>> that. But I
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to
>>>>>> it as
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>>>> nonprofit
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~'
>>>>>> 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
>>>>>> list:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>> 114D 173B
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>> 114D 173B
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
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>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>> 173B
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>> E9E2
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>>> --
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>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
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>>>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>>
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>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
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>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Thu Jun 27 09:28:26 2019
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:28:26 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] The proposal for closing Bestbits and
 merging with IGC + next steps (was "Follow-on from survey on the future of
 Bestbits: next steps")
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Hello Sheetal,

I concur accordingly and have no objections at all to the proposal so I
have no further inputs.

Poncelet

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 13:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thanks to all those who have inputted so far! It's great to see support
> for the proposal shared earlier this month. This is just a gentle reminder
> to weigh in on the proposal before *July 5th*, which I've recopied in
> italics below.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> *Meeting of IGC & BB participants, June 11th, 2019, RightsCon, Tunis*
>
> *Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>. There was a need
> identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation that
> opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will arise
> from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
> framework should be developed.*
>
>
> *Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
> Committee processes on cybersecurity). *
>
>
> *If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
> outlined above, please share your perspectives by 05 July. Should there be
> no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented after July
> 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far, please do
> get in touch with us.*
>
> *Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC), Milton
> Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter Micek
> (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)*
>
>
> *Agenda followed:*
>
>
>
> *1) Introductions 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed 3)
> Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why organise
> the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be? 4)
> Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement on
> roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps *
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks
>> A better option.
>> Regards
>> Remmy Nweke
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 18:57 Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am writing here on behalf of the thirteen members of IGC and/or
>>> Bestbits which met on June 11, day 0 of RightsCon in Tunis to take forward
>>> our discussion on how to better coordinate civil society efforts (see
>>> agenda & participants at bottom of this email). Please see our proposal
>>> below.
>>>
>>> Following a discussion of the history of coordination efforts from those
>>> who had been involved in the early set up of the IGC, and a discussion of
>>> what is needed to address challenges to information sharing & coordination,
>>> those present agreed that the proposal for combining, or consolidating,
>>> efforts should be taken forward (this was one of the four options suggested
>>> in a survey to Bestbits members earlier this year - see attached). This
>>> discussion also draws on and continues a series of online conversations
>>> facilitated by members of IGC and Bestbits, which you can see a summary of
>>> here: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture. There was a
>>> need identified for more streamlined information sharing and expectation
>>> that opportunities to collaborate around common priorities or issues will
>>> arise from more structured and streamlined information sharing. It was also
>>> agreed that the current IGC Charter could form a basis for a future
>>> document but that it should be revisited and a more lightweight and general
>>> framework should be developed.
>>>
>>> Therefore, the group proposes that those interested in civil society
>>> coordination efforts related to the original vision of the IGC Charter (see
>>> attached), join the IGC and that Bestbits is closed, with an automatic
>>> response instituted for those posting on Bestbits, redirecting them to join
>>> IGC. Within IGC, following this merger, we propose that those interested
>>> form a small drafting group to draft a revised and more lightweight version
>>> of the Charter. Those present also agreed to work towards the organisation
>>> of a day 0 event before the global IGF this year in Berlin, in concert with
>>> German civil society groups. The day 0 event will be dedicated to
>>> finalising the revised Charter and sharing updates on relevant global
>>> processes (the UN High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation & the UN First
>>> Committee processes on cybersecurity).
>>>
>>> If you have strong concerns or if you oppose the merger proposal as
>>> outlined above, please share your perspectives by *05 July*. Should
>>> there be no objections, we suggest the process as outlined is implemented
>>> after July 05. If you have any questions at all about the process so far,
>>> please do get in touch with us.
>>>
>>> Participants: Leena Romppainen (Effi), Gayatri Khandhadai (APC), Pavitra
>>> Ramanujam (APC), Sheetal Kumar (GPD), Anriette Esterhuysen (APC),
>>> Milton Mueller (Georgia Tech), Jamila Venturini (Derechos Digitales), Peter
>>> Micek (Access Now), Rafik Dammak, Bruna Martins dos Santos (Coding Rights),
>>> Nadira Alaraj, Bach Avezdjanov (Columbia Global Freedom of Expression),
>>> Arsene Tungali (Rudi International)
>>>
>>> Agenda followed:
>>> 1) Introductions
>>> 2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed
>>> 3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>> 4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee? Agreement
>>> on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 16:36, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to seeing those of you who can make it to our meeting
>>>> in Tunis tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> If you're attending to come but haven't yet let me know, please drop me
>>>> a line if you can.
>>>>
>>>> Please find the details below:
>>>>
>>>> *Where:* Room DOUGGA on Tuesday, June 11th from 9am-12:30pm
>>>>
>>>> *Why/Aims/intended outcome:*
>>>>
>>>>    -
>>>> *Agreed next steps for organising a day 0 event *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *What/the agenda: *
>>>>
>>>> *1) Introductions (15 minutes)*
>>>>
>>>> *2) Context/background: bringing everyone up to speed (15 minutes)*
>>>>
>>>> *3) Organising a day 0 event: what would we want to get out of it? Why
>>>> organise the event? Can we set outcomes? How ambitious do we want to be?
>>>> (1-1.5 hours)*
>>>> *4) Practicalities of organising the event: steering committee?
>>>> Agreement on roles and responsibilities, further outreach, next steps (45
>>>> minutes) *
>>>>
>>>> Do let me know if you have any questions!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> *Best*
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 10:24, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Following on from my previous email, we will have our meeting to plan
>>>>> the IGF day 0 event on Day 0 of RightsCon. See the details below:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Room Dougga
>>>>>    - June 11, *9am-12:30pm *
>>>>>    - Hôtel LAICO, Ave Mohamed V, Tunis, Tunisia
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't make it but will be at RightsCon and would like to be
>>>>> part of the discussions, let me know as I we can find time to meet
>>>>> before/after the event. I've set up a thread for those who expressed
>>>>> interest in this effort so I can add you to that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope to see many of you soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 11:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your replies. I've also received a few replies
>>>>>> off-thread expressing interest in the effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Bach - thank you for the kind offer! We've secured a space at the
>>>>>> RightsCon venue but that would have been very helpful if not! Will you be
>>>>>> at RightsCon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the way forward:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Please let me know if you are at RightsCon and would like to
>>>>>>    attend that first meeting as there is limited space but of course we'd like
>>>>>>    to accommodate everyone who can attend
>>>>>>    - If you are not at RightsCon and still interested then please do
>>>>>>    get in touch anyway, as we will be keeping everyone updated and you can
>>>>>>    input into the meeting agenda (and maybe even the discussions if we have
>>>>>>    good wifi)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 20:19, Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov <
>>>>>> ba2482 at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Columbia University has a center in Tunis, and I could inquire if we
>>>>>>> could use it for a Day 0 meeting, if it takes place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bach Avezdjanov
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: 212 854 1591
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @ColumbiaGFOE <https://twitter.com/ColumbiaGFOE>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
>>>>>>> <https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subscribe to our Weekly News Letter!
>>>>>>> <http://columbia.us8.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5b024e7a0c16e2779164ac24d&id=67263d095b>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee W McKnight
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:07 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; sivasubramanian muthusamy; Akinremi Peter
>>>>>>> Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance; Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for this. I agree with the Day 0 meeting idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me this feels quite deja vu-ish of the (2nd?) IGF in Hyderabad
>>>>>>> where the Dynamic Coalition on Internet Rights and the DC on Internet
>>>>>>> Principles had a joint meeting to discuss overlaps; we left with a Dynamic
>>>>>>> Coalition on Internet Rights and Principles. Which eventually led to the
>>>>>>> creation and translation of the Charter on Internet Rights and Principles
>>>>>>> among other positive outcomes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I am optimistic an IGC-CSCG (sp?) can move forward out of this;
>>>>>>> ie among IGC's tasks going forward is to help energize also the cross-CS
>>>>>>> coordination right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which has to be done with BestBits 'Get it done' mindset and methods
>>>>>>> embedded; vs IGC's at its worst eternal faculty meeting feel (at times to
>>>>>>> this prof).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net <
>>>>>>> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2019 12:40:53 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Tapani Tarvainen; Sheetal Kumar; sivasubramanian muthusamy;
>>>>>>> Akinremi Peter Taiwo; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt;
>>>>>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org; governance
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the
>>>>>>> future of Bestbits: next steps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following our discussions, and some discussions among some of  those
>>>>>>> of us who attended the last call four weeks ago (notes & participants
>>>>>>> here:  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture), see
>>>>>>> below what some of us propose as a hopefully straightforward plan going
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - IGC and Bestbits list members work together to organise a day
>>>>>>>    0 event at IGF
>>>>>>>    - Volunteers from both lists come together in an informal
>>>>>>>    steering committee to organise the event - you don't have to identify as
>>>>>>>    'Bestbits'/IGC necessarily and can agree how to approach the organisation
>>>>>>>    of the event however they see fit
>>>>>>>    - Members of other lists are invited to join once an informal
>>>>>>>    agenda has been put together
>>>>>>>    - Those who are present at RightsCon and interested in this
>>>>>>>    effort come together to discuss preliminary ideas - to include the idea of
>>>>>>>    focusing the day 0 event on reviving IGC (and many others that have already
>>>>>>>    been proposed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Although after all this to-ing and fro-ing it may sound like we've
>>>>>>> now decided to just organise a meeting again I hope you will agree that the
>>>>>>> discussions had so far, the interest and commitment to global level
>>>>>>> coordination, would be usefully served by collectively putting together an
>>>>>>> agenda that responds to the interests of those committed to these efforts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please provide your views on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 17:30, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for those who joined the call yesterday. Once I have the
>>>>>>> recording I'll send it around. In the meantime, you can see a short summary
>>>>>>> at the top of the etherpad. Apologies for its staccato nature but it should
>>>>>>> provide an overview of what we discussed: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In essence, we discussed the reasons that these discussions about
>>>>>>> civil society coordination have recently re-surfaced and those on the call
>>>>>>> reiterated the commitment to global-level coordination and the need to work
>>>>>>> together in a less fragmented way. We looked at the survey results and
>>>>>>> discussed the fact that although about half of the respondents supported
>>>>>>> exploring a 'merger' with IGC, around half also thought expanding the
>>>>>>> mandate of the CSCG could be an option. However, those on the call
>>>>>>> mentioned that the historical standing of the IGC is important to leverage
>>>>>>> and there is complementary between Bestbits and IGCs mandates. Therefore,
>>>>>>> we shouldn't lose that in whatever we choose to do going forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We discussed that proposing something more concrete to the IGC would
>>>>>>> be helpful in terms of how a 'merger' could work. We were cognizant of the
>>>>>>> limited number of the people on the call, so we agreed to put something
>>>>>>> short together and then to share it with you for your feedback before
>>>>>>> sharing it with IGC. At the moment, we're working on that simple proposal
>>>>>>> to share with you. I'll share it shortly. If anyone else on the call wants
>>>>>>> to chime in with more information please do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have any questions, please do let us know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 14:10, Tapani Tarvainen <
>>>>>>> tapani.tarvainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I couldn't get bluejeans to work for me. I trust someone will
>>>>>>> report on the meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On huhti 10 13:11, Sheetal Kumar (sheetal at gp-digital.org) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > This is just a quick reminder that we'll be meeting in under an
>>>>>>> hour at 1
>>>>>>> > PM UTC (see the link below).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best
>>>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Meeting room details
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>> > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Meeting ID
>>>>>>> > 524 189 381
>>>>>>> > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>> > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>> > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Dear all
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on
>>>>>>> *Wednesday,
>>>>>>> > > April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Best
>>>>>>> > > Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Meeting room details
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > *Meeting URL*
>>>>>>> > > https://bluejeans.com/524189381?src=join_info
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Meeting ID
>>>>>>> > > 524 189 381
>>>>>>> > > Want to dial in from a phone?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Dial one of the following numbers:
>>>>>>> > > +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > > +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > > (see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Connecting from a room system?
>>>>>>> > > Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID &
>>>>>>> passcode
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> > > improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone
>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Suggested agenda
>>>>>>> > > 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of
>>>>>>> what's happened
>>>>>>> > > so far
>>>>>>> > > 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>> > > 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>> > > 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>> > > 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Dear Akinremi,
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the
>>>>>>> participants of
>>>>>>> > >> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> > >> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is
>>>>>>> working,
>>>>>>> > >> then I do not have concerns.
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Thank you.
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>> > >> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>> > >> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org
>>>>>>> mailbox is not
>>>>>>> > >>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net
>>>>>>> mailing-list.
>>>>>>> > >>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so
>>>>>>> as to be
>>>>>>> > >>> able to help.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Regards.
>>>>>>> > >>> Peter
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>>>>>> > >>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits
>>>>>>> list to
>>>>>>> > >>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different
>>>>>>> problem. The
>>>>>>> > >>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is
>>>>>>> managing the
>>>>>>> > >>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>>>>> > >>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>>>>> > >>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be
>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be
>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an
>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>> > >>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the
>>>>>>> group should cease
>>>>>>> > >>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC
>>>>>>> group wants IGC
>>>>>>> > >>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> > >>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are
>>>>>>> referring to.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any
>>>>>>> privacy issue that
>>>>>>> > >>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> > >>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society
>>>>>>> organization in the
>>>>>>> > >>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing
>>>>>>> many hat remains.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> > >>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response,
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly
>>>>>>> the poll
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only
>>>>>>> to the IGC list.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of
>>>>>>> Bestbits" rather than
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society
>>>>>>> coordination, and I know
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The
>>>>>>> conversations have
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the
>>>>>>> current situation
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination
>>>>>>> network), and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil
>>>>>>> society coordination
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which
>>>>>>> gathered a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a
>>>>>>> summary report of
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris
>>>>>>> there was discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do
>>>>>>> that however, it
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and
>>>>>>> agree a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It
>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can
>>>>>>> confirm the date and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and
>>>>>>> contributions so far!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with
>>>>>>> a summary included
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the
>>>>>>> first half
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward
>>>>>>> (45 minutes-1
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC
>>>>>>> founders and other
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate
>>>>>>> call too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to
>>>>>>> find a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in
>>>>>>> finding a way
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the
>>>>>>> widest possible
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions
>>>>>>> on how to proceed,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle
>>>>>>> for a follow up
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would
>>>>>>> be great
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>> If you could fill
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to
>>>>>>> decide next
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank
>>>>>>> you to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views
>>>>>>> if you can,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed
>>>>>>> into the next set
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please
>>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of
>>>>>>> Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well
>>>>>>> as members of IGC, it
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather
>>>>>>> views of all members.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information
>>>>>>> note which
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and
>>>>>>> links to the summaries of
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are
>>>>>>> invited to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a
>>>>>>> timely way, please
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call
>>>>>>> yesterday. For
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the
>>>>>>> list of participants
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways
>>>>>>> forward for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in
>>>>>>> December and the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both
>>>>>>> Bestbits and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their
>>>>>>> objectives,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we
>>>>>>> agreed to circulate a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four
>>>>>>> suggested ways forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested
>>>>>>> that this survey with
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the
>>>>>>> future of the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to
>>>>>>> both lists shortly,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next
>>>>>>> steps is
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*.
>>>>>>> The full
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've
>>>>>>> updated the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <
>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the
>>>>>>> best time
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The
>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are
>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking
>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the
>>>>>>> 11th!
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <
>>>>>>> http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Online Meeting room: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join the Meeting:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bluejeans.com/819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via Room System:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Video Conferencing System: bjn.vc
>>>>>>> -or-199.48.152.152
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting ID : 819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To join via phone :
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1)  Dial:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.888.240.2560 (US Toll Free)
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers)
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2)  Enter Conference ID : 819760256
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that if you call in, your phone number
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear on the Bluejeans room page. We would like to
>>>>>>> record and share the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link with the BestBits network on the mailing list.
>>>>>>> Please let us know if
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do not want the recording to be shared on an
>>>>>>> open mailing list if you
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call in.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and
>>>>>>> IGC lists,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other
>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>> issues faced in
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as
>>>>>>> information sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process
>>>>>>> for decision
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated
>>>>>>> they were available for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits
>>>>>>> member you can join the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is
>>>>>>> just to have a vague idea
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this
>>>>>>> topic, and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives
>>>>>>> and the relevant
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to
>>>>>>> touch base
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way
>>>>>>> forward. The discussions here
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and
>>>>>>> Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second
>>>>>>> call to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and
>>>>>>> issues faced
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of
>>>>>>> lists/establishment
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists
>>>>>>> as information sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call,
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that
>>>>>>> we also reach out to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and
>>>>>>> inform the discussion
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end
>>>>>>> of next
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send
>>>>>>> the conference room link
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care,
>>>>>>> and have a
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line
>>>>>>> with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together
>>>>>>> within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again
>>>>>>> really improve participation?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to
>>>>>>> be done,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people
>>>>>>> who started
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same
>>>>>>> perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems
>>>>>>> unlikely that
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC
>>>>>>> (which many
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having
>>>>>>> some difficulty with
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management
>>>>>>> tasks for the group.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss
>>>>>>> issues and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to
>>>>>>> do that now or do we need
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while
>>>>>>> since it had
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time,
>>>>>>> the 2012 ITU
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on
>>>>>>> joint action
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both
>>>>>>> inside and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer
>>>>>>> steering
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that
>>>>>>> had driven
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too.
>>>>>>> There were
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own
>>>>>>> funding.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability
>>>>>>> resulted in
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set
>>>>>>> of rules
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people
>>>>>>> weren't
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that
>>>>>>> the more
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for
>>>>>>> that. But I
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time
>>>>>>> to it as
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new
>>>>>>> nonprofit
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~'
>>>>>>> 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the
>>>>>>> list:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize
>>>>>>> Economics, 1979
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
>>>>>>> 114D 173B
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> 173B
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
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>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D
>>>>>>> 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>> > >>>>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>> > >>>>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>> Peter Taiwo Akinremi
>>>>>>> > >>> about.me/petertaiwoakinremi
>>>>>>> > >>> <
>>>>>>> https://about.me/petertaiwoakinremi?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603
>>>>>>> > > DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F
>>>>>>> > E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>> >      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>> >      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>> ---
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> --
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>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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From dhanaraj.thakur at webfoundation.org  Wed Jun  5 07:26:04 2019
From: dhanaraj.thakur at webfoundation.org (Dhanaraj Thakur)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 07:26:04 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?JOB_POSTING_-_Research_Manager_=E2=80=93_Gen?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?der_and_Digital_Rights_=28Web_Foundation=29?=
In-Reply-To: <58d8038d-abf1-ed7d-68a8-205c48f38ae7@webfoundation.org>
References: <58d8038d-abf1-ed7d-68a8-205c48f38ae7@webfoundation.org>
Message-ID: <da6a4a59-d6e3-5ad4-5cf5-7b0f3d9a9144@webfoundation.org>

Hi all,

Apologies for cross-posting. Please see details about a new opening in
my research team at the Web Foundation. Feel free to share with
potential candidates and your networks.

https://webfoundation.org/about/jobs/

We’re looking for an experienced Research Manager
<http://webfoundation.org/docs/2019/06/JD-Research-Manager-Gender-and-Digital-Rights.pdf>
to work across our research program, with a specific focus on digital
rights and gender. This role, sitting in a multidisciplinary and
multicultural team, will lead and support the development of world-class
research products for targeted policy and general audiences, drawing on
a range of approaches including feminist and qualitative research methods.

Research is core to the Web Foundation’s advocacy strategy and your work
will help to drive policy change to advance our vision of an open web as
a public good and a basic right for everyone, everywhere.

To apply, please read the full job description
<http://webfoundation.org/docs/2019/06/JD-Research-Manager-Gender-and-Digital-Rights.pdf>
and send your CV and a cover letter to jobs at webfoundation.org, including
‘Research Manager’ in the subject line.

Applications are open until June 21.



thanks,

Dhanaraj


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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Wed Jun  5 15:28:15 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 15:28:15 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Documenting our Feedback on implementation process
 for Christchurch call
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAgLh7g4ss5KAnU7D-s+AJbhqMg5H33t8dJfGV4a53vvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvBwej8U_rEpD=DrWnN513NGoFwbehBQZfKnQCAgwoLx+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1qJvAgLh7g4ss5KAnU7D-s+AJbhqMg5H33t8dJfGV4a53vvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvCea3z60Od1RnDnehgDfQa8oM4BTf=uvdmGiR1oeB_Fpg@mail.gmail.com>

All,

As I mentioned the NZ government is in need of feedback on how to include
the stakeholders in Christchurch Call implementation. In specific, we need
to offer some overarching principles for the rules and procedures that
should be in place to include stakeholders. The text itself is problematic
too, so I suggest we gather tomorrow (6/6/2019) at 12 PM UTC to discuss
these issues and agree on a document we can separately submit about the
process. We have time until the end of the week, it’s not much but I think
it would be crucial to send a separate more detailed document on the
process. It won’t be as detailed as the collective input but we can provide
concrete suggestions and perhaps avoid Christchurch call from becoming
pledge text implemented through a multilateral process.

Here is the information about Blujeans Meeting Room which we will use
tomorrow.

Meeting URL
https://bluejeans.com/208201193?src=join_info

Meeting ID
208 201 193

Want to dial in from a phone?

Dial one of the following numbers:
+1.408.740.7256 (US (San Jose))
+1.408.317.9253 (US (Primary, San Jose))
(see all numbers - https://www.bluejeans.com/premium-numbers)

Enter the meeting ID and passcode followed by #

Connecting from a room system?
Dial: bjn.vc or 199.48.152.152 and enter your meeting ID & passcode
Farzaneh
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Thu Jun  6 17:25:25 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 17:25:25 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Update on Christchruch call
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvB0QxSh5O1e10iRVLX+w5LG+i=_V=XHpMBDkzFpWJiXTA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

We had a meeting today with around six attendees about how to add a page on
processes and future appropriate steps on Christchurch call. Here is the
recording: https://bluejeans.com/s/ck9uO/

We decided to write up an addendum on the process so that the NZ government
can have feedback on the process to work with. The rough version is in the
google doc page 13 and 14. If you want to comment on the addendum, you can
do so within the next 24 hours.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10RadyVQUNu1H5D7x6IJVKbqmaeDeXre0Mk-FFNkIVxs/edit?usp=sharing

(please send your comments to me I will insert them)

The NZ government has decided to create 4 work streams: Global Internet
Forum Counter Terrorism reforms, Algorithm, Crisis and Crisis response.

The following points were raised during our meeting today:
- There is a danger that Christchurch call is going to be advanced through
multilateral process if discussed in multilateral events and its mandate
might go beyond "terrorist content". we need to be mindful of that and
encourage the NZ government to work with the rest of the Internet community
and also if possible prevent the process to become multilateral.
- We don't have the time or resources to have a standalone process for
Christchurchcall  but we can have use InternetNZ Christchurch forum as the
coordination space.
- There will be a UGA meeting in September and Christchurchcall will be
discussed there. (just raising awareness not for the UN to adopt)
- The civil society and other stakeholder groups should be able to
participate on equal footing in the processes for moving CC call forward.
- some aspects of the text of the pledge is not acceptable and should be
discussed during implementation.

Best








Farzaneh
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sat Jun  8 16:48:01 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 16:48:01 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Collective input on Christchurch call submitted
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvC2e4ri7eZ8mTMPTNN_RhZsgFirD9wN5xiEse0K1orf5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvC2e4ri7eZ8mTMPTNN_RhZsgFirD9wN5xiEse0K1orf5A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvA5Q1jzxEuDqeAt3=MefNiaNR3Chb6zy60kOzzezaHNEg@mail.gmail.com>

The collective input on Christchurch call was submitted today.

I sincerely thank all those who attended the calls, participated in
drafting the input and endorsed it. This was an exemplary collective action
and I hope to see future collaborations like this.

We are going to use InternetNZ Christchurchcall coordination space as the
primary space for discussions regarding the Christchurchcall.
https://christchurchcallcoord.internetnz.nz/

In the future we might also create a mailing list if that is more
convenient. You can find related tweets at #christchurchcallvoices

Best regards,


Farzaneh
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sat Jun  8 20:37:06 2019
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:37:06 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Who governs AI globally
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Parminder,

In my opinion AI governance has nothing to do with Internet governance. AI
can be used on the Internet and against the Internet (censoring content
etc) but its governance is separate. This is something we are not clear
about in our discussions on AI and have derailed Internet governance
discussions with unrelated AI governance issues.


But I have an answer to your point. Many of us here from undemocratic
countries could not have participated effectively in multilateral processes
of the UN. Many countries have governments that do not represent them
effectively. UN is not an accountable organization. While any stakeholder
can participate at IG institutions, this is not the case for the UN
processes. Those who oppress us will represent us in the UN processes.
Their purpose is to protect their own existence and political institutions
rather than representing people. Sometimes they are not even aware of the
issues that affect their people. And we cannot fight for inclusion. UN is
for the nation states. They are the decisionmakers there even if they claim
they have also established multistakeholder processes.

I believe the mis-contribution to the civil society advocacy was,
unfortunately, the unnatural divide that was created by civil society
activists among the civil society itself. We were quite effective in WSIS
and other processes and to some extent still are at some IG processes. But
we are becoming more and more microfragmented. The more fragmented our
efforts are, the more we lack collective action, the easier it is for the
more powerful to pick us up one by one and make us ineffective. We can have
as many stand alone and similiarly themed workshops at IGF because we don't
agree with each other on some issues and don't cooperate to draft
proposals, we can have parallel and competing civil society meetings and
not get together. The ability is surely there but is it to the benefit of
civil society, the Internet community and globally connected people? I
think the answer is no!





Farzaneh


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:58 AM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

>
>
> OECD's digital economy committee has developed these AI governance
> principles http://www.oecd.org/going-digital/ai/principles/
>
> And now the World Economic Forum has stepped in to do global governance of
> AI
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613589/the-world-economic-forum-wants-to-develop-global-rules-for-ai/?utm_campaign=the_download.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=73093912&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9gRdOMFU_P4B7Q-HO5n-3dCwcrtYZbneXewQ5B6cKP8_2SWOESFXhaycLcYQwgtWjcbbicSXA3ZsZpMZt9KPEUNYH5Dw&_hsmi=73093912
>
> Maybe, at least at this stage the IG civil society would want to re-assess
> why they fought so bitterly against any such thing potentially being done
> at a UN body.... Where at least all countries are equally represented, and
> big business does not dictate terms openly. . (And had at the same time
> supported the WEF based NetMundial Initiative.)
>
> Interestingly enough, we were then told that the UN can have no role
> because there are countries like China over there. Really! The WEF
> initiative is headed by a USian and a Chinese... Going beyond the OECD
> initiative, it is an attempt to find common ground between the two digital
> biggies, and the emerging two poles of the digital world...
>
> So, we have what many of us have been warning all this multistakeholderism
> is about ...It is a way to subvert democratic institutions and thinking and
> make it more acceptable to have those who are politically and economically
> the strongest to dictate rules to everyone... From democratic governance to
> a market of governance, where what you can do depends on what power you
> bring to the table.
>
> We see this happening right in front of our eyes..
>
> And how bitterly did the civil society reps, and also tech community,
> oppose at the UN working group on enhanced cooperation for international
> public policies (and other forums), in the end, even to just have a day or
> two of annual dedicated meeting at the most innocuous Commission for
> Science and Technology for Development, where developing countries could
> bring up their Internet/ digital governance problems , and could maybe have
> just that small role in shaping global digital governance, including AI
> governance...
>
> But, no, multistakeholderism checks for your political and economic heft
> not your democratic legitimacy.
>
> Now, the developing countries can sit on the outside and wait for the
> richest countries (OECD) and the biggest global businesses (WEF) to develop
> global digital/ AI rules and convey it to them!
>
> Does the Internet governance civil society plan to introspect on this all
> important mis-contribution that it made? Or at least the developing country
> participants here?
>
> parminder
>
>
>
>
>
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From javier at accessnow.org  Sun Jun  9 10:30:44 2019
From: javier at accessnow.org (Javier Pallero)
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 11:30:44 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] RightsCon. Closed meeting MSFT + Civil Society
Message-ID: <CAOKjkF9fpUEDMjD3teW2ANW8TFG47z9WesHXN2k914PD6_jiYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone
 if you happen to be at RightsCon, Microsoft has called for a closed
meeting on Wednesday June 12 between them and Civil Society organizations
at the event.

The idea is to discuss the implementation of the Christchurch Call. If
you're interested in attending please let me know and I will pass on the
details for the meeting.

Cheers!

Javier Pallero
Latam Policy Lead - Access Now

Sent from mobile, pardon my brevity
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