[bestbits] [governance] Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps

Wed Apr 10 08:11:15 EDT 2019

Dear all,

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Looking forward to speaking to you then!

Best
Sheetal.

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 13:39, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all
>
> As promised, please find below the details for meeting us on *Wednesday,
> April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.
>
> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
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> Any civil society stakeholders interested in the discussion around
> improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone relevant.
>
> Suggested agenda
> 1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's happened
> so far
> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <
> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Akinremi,
>>
>> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the participants of
>> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion about
>> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is working,
>> then I do not have concerns.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>
>>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox is not
>>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net mailing-list.
>>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so as to be
>>> able to help.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits list to
>>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different problem. The
>>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is managing the
>>>> Governance lists please?
>>>>
>>>> Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited to
>>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be limited to
>>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an independent
>>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group should cease
>>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC group wants IGC
>>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts on the
>>>>> IGC list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are referring to.
>>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any privacy issue that
>>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society organization in the
>>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many hat remains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response, only
>>>>>> about 8 respondents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly the poll
>>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to the IGC list.
>>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of Bestbits" rather than
>>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in these
>>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society coordination, and I know
>>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The conversations have
>>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current situation
>>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network), and
>>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society coordination
>>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which gathered a
>>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a summary report of
>>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there was discussion
>>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do that however, it
>>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and agree a way
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It would be
>>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm the date and
>>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions so far!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I have
>>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a summary included
>>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first half
>>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward (45 minutes-1
>>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC founders and other
>>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate call too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to find a way
>>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to change
>>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in finding a way
>>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the widest possible
>>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle for a follow up
>>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would be great
>>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to decide next
>>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you to
>>>>>>>>>> those who have responded already.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if you can,
>>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed into the next set
>>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please see a
>>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as members of IGC, it
>>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather views of all members.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note which
>>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links to the summaries of
>>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are invited to
>>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a timely way, please
>>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any
>>>>>>>>>>> questions at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call yesterday. For
>>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the list of participants
>>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways forward for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in December and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both Bestbits and
>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their objectives,
>>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we agreed to circulate a
>>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four suggested ways forward
>>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that this survey with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the future of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to both lists shortly,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next steps is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The full
>>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've updated the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the best time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC lists,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues faced in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of lists/establishment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as information sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've also added the names of those who indicated they were available for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits member you can join the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call without indicating that in the pad, this is just to have a vague idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives and the relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way forward. The discussions here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues faced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in each network
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of lists/establishment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as information sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest only Bestbits members are invited but that we also reach out to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some IGC folks to help provide some background and inform the discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the conference room link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again really improve participation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to be done,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems unlikely that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would make much progress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC (which many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having some difficulty with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management tasks for the group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common voice, but is this the right way to do that now or do we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to devise something different?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while since it had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the 2012 ITU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer steering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had driven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own funding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So whereas the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability resulted in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and processes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people weren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for that. But I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to it as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new nonprofit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -O -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B
>>>>>>>>>>> E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
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*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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