[bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror

Sun Oct 28 22:44:52 EDT 2018

Hmm I can provide a good summary of what Parminder said: it is all the neo
liberals fault.

Fighting with public interest on NCUC website? Well I let others tell a a
history of public interest and its sad fate at ICANN ( which turned in
favor of copyright and trademark instead of protecting foe).

I am sorry, it's a very sad day, let's not make it sadder by starting a
blame game.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:15 PM Carolina Rossini <
carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow! I agree with Parminder! Ah!
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:13 PM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 29/10/18 3:47 AM, ian.peter at ianpeter.com wrote:
>>
>> Very sad that this has happened, Carlos. Lurches to the right seem
>> commonplace these days.
>>
>> Brazil was a great leader as regards multistakeholder internet governance
>> initiatives, and I do hope that all is not lost with this change. Certainly
>> what has been achieved in the past sets a great example and part of history
>> which I hope is not forgotten.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> I dont want to make capital out of unfortunate times, but truth is as
>> important to speak out at such times, if we are not just to make pro forma
>> regrets but to look ahead with vision and purpose, and thus any real
>> hope....
>>
>> Dear Ian, do you really think that a multistakeholder model which
>> culminated in trying to install a World Economic Forum based global
>> Internet Governance regime instead of a UN based one was itself not a lurch
>> to right? That is also history that must not be forgotten, and released
>> from its responsibilities.
>>
>> The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a
>> trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages often using
>> the cover of social liberalism without economic egalitarianism -- where
>> market without political governance was to be the defender of rights! This
>> is a direct result of promotion of an one-sided talk of human rights --
>> only civil and political ones and not social and economic ones, which have
>> openly been flouted even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot
>> ask me for real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many.... Ok,
>> take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of 'public
>> interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of ICANN's)website, to which many
>> CS stalwarts of IG belong. A key leader of CS community has said 'social
>> justice' is a meaningless concept, another that the term 'democracy carries
>> baggage', and when appeals (like at UNESCO's key Paris meeting on IG) were
>> circulated to simply ensure that social and economic rights get mentioned
>> along with civil and public rights in the conf document there wasnt much
>> sympathy on these lists.. And yes, also when all progressive civil society
>> is fighting for a binding treaty on human rights abuses by corporations,
>> key leaders write here why any such thing is a bad idea .... .I can go on
>> and on ...
>>
>> And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of progressive
>> and democratic ideals that the global trans-national elite has brought on
>> us in blind pursuit of their global economic interests (Zizek's 'Clinton
>> not Trump is the problem' precisely captures it).
>>
>> This is the dispossessed reacting against the global neoliberal excesses
>> in the only ways they could think of, or were made available to them,
>> however deleterious the results are finally going to be for them. But lets
>> not look away from what or who is responsible here.....
>>
>> When we seethe  market, the embodiment of un-restrained self-interest, as
>> the institution that will govern us in all areas (which is the definition
>> of neoliberalism) including of rights, welfare, etc, then one can very well
>> expect a Trump and a Bolsanaro to come along and say, well self-interest,
>> fine, this is what it politically is, everyone fending for oneself and
>> one's narrow interests, and avowedly and unabashedly so ...  Trump and
>> Bolsorno are the other side of the same trans-national neo-liberalism of
>> which Internet governance space has been a key, often pioneering arena. It
>> is a local, political response of the justifiably angry and dispossessed,
>> even if a suicidal one... T and B are simply neoliberalism's narrow
>> profession of unbridled self-interest without the spin and false
>> sophisticated sheen that is just there to reflect away deserved criticism
>> -- it is the proverbial chickens coming home to roost.
>>
>> With hope and solidarity
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Carlos Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
>> To: "BestBits List" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>> Sent: 28/10/2018 1:29:02 AM
>> Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
>>
>> Dear colleagues, this article may give you an idea of what might happen
>> in Brazil with the presidential elections tomorrow.
>>
>> Sorry for this, but the situation may be terrifying for anyone who
>> opposes the ultra-right-wing candidate. The article by Pablo Villaça (in
>> English) is an accurate review:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung-correspondents/brazilian-election-2018-bolsonaro
>>
>> The article is also attached in PDF.
>>
>> Bolsonaro threatens to liquidate all NGOs and social movements -- who
>> can choose between prison and exile. Fundamental achievements like our
>> multistakeholder Internet governance system, our Internet Bill of
>> Rights, and many other human rights-related laws are at risk.
>>
>> fraternal regards
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carlos A. Afonso
>> [emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em contrário]
>> [emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
>>
>> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
>> ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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