[bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet Governance : Road to WSIS+20

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Mon Nov 26 21:43:07 EST 2018

Hey Farzi,

Thanks for the response and suggestions. I agree we need to be action
oriented here, and also with the idea of convening a CS relevant IG events
in the upcoming year in order to identify common interests and possible
advocacy areas. - and I guess your suggestion might be shared with the ones
who discussed a CS meeting in RightsCon. This coordination could have
helped us better as a stakeholder group in a politically framed IGF like
this past one.

Having the meeting next week would be good as it would give us time to hear
back from others and also come up with an agenda.

About the CSCG, the composition remains the same - APC, Best Bits, JNC, IGC
and NCSG. (http://internetgov-cs.org/)


Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 00:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>

> Thanks Bruna.
> I think we really need to be action oriented here. Issuing statements
>  does not really yield any result if we dont  have a plan, agreed set of
> tasks, agreed set if values which we can strategize upon. We need to
> identify important IG events coordinate and discuss what we want to do,
> which values we want to bring and what our message is. It does not matter
> if our messages are conflicting. It matters to be present.
> Of course big civil society organizations are not going to pay attention
> when we are too chotic and haphazard in action or missing in action. We
> need to re start coordinating among ourselves. A call every three months, a
> briefing email every month, will get us back on track.
> If Friday this week is not feasible we can have the meeting Friday next
> week. It’s important to have regular exchanges either on this list or
> during online meetings. Im not really trying to create a collective again I
> love individuality, but would be good to coordinate among ourselves and
> know what we are up to, what events are going on and debate issues until
> the next IGF or important  IG event.
> Out of curiosity, who are actually members of CSCG?
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
>> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
>> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
>> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
>> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
>> list. As @Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of
>> our joint contribution
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> is
>> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
>> the meeting if its of interest.
>> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
>> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
>> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
>> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
>> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
>> but I dont have any more details than this.
>> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
>> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
>> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
>> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
>> FOC this week.
>> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
>> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
>>> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
>>> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
>>> next year.
>>> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
>>> we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Certainly
>>>> So lets have a meeting.
>>>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>>>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>>>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
>>>>>> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>>>>>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>>>>>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>>>>>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>>>>>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>>>>>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>>>>>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
>>>>>>> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
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>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
>>>>>>>> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
>>>>>>>> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
>>>>>>>> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil
>>>>>>>> society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering
>>>>>>>> what the outcome was?
>>>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
>>>>>>>> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>>>>>>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>>>>>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis,
>>>>>>>>> took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to
>>>>>>>>> WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>>>>>>>>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>>>>>>>>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>>>>>>>>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>>>>>>>>> Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
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>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
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> Farzaneh

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