From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Thu Nov  1 10:29:01 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:29:01 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Launch of GPD info hub on the ITU
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Dear all

With Plenipot kicking off and as an update to the email I sent last year
launching the ITU Info hub <https://www.gp-digital.org/event/itu-info-hub/>,
I wanted to highlight some of the new resources on the hub which can help
human rights defenders engage.

   - An ongoing blog series (*Regional Perspectives at the ITU*) which
   examines the ITU's regional groupings in depth, and offers informed
   guidance on their likely priorities for this Plenipot. So far, we've
   covered Europe (CEPT)
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/regional-perspectives-at-the-itu-1-europe/>,
Africa
   (ATU)
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/regional-perspectives-at-the-itu-2-africa/>,
   and the Americas (CITEL)
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/regional-perspectives-at-the-itu-3-the-americas/>
   ;
   - Concise *Explainers* on the ITU's work on a range of key
   internet-related policy issues which are likely to come up at Plenipot:
   including cybersecurity
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ITU_Explainers_cybersecurity.pdf>
   , spectrum management
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ITU_Explainers_spectrum.pdf>
   , Digital Object Architecture
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/itu-doa2.pdf>, OTT
   services
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/itu-ott-2.pdf>,
   Development
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/itu-development_explainer.pdf>,
   and IoT
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ITU_IOT2.pdf>;
   - A blog series (*Spotlight on the ITU*) exploring different aspects of
   the ITU – from its history
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/spotlight-on-the-itu-2-a-brief-introduction-to-the-itu/>
   and broader position in the internet governance space, to the specific
   role and importance of Plenipot
   <https://www.gp-digital.org/spotlight-on-the-itu-4-an-introduction-to-plenipot/>
   ;
   - An *interactive ITU calendar* <https://www.gp-digital.org/itu-events/>,
   highlighting the key events which are of relevance to human rights defenders

We hope this is useful and please do share any feedback.

Best
Sheetal.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 at 18:49, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> In case of interest, GPD have just launched an *ITU info hub
> <https://www.gp-digital.org/event/itu-info-hub/>* – bringing together a
> wide range of materials, tools and other resources to support civil society
> engagement in the International Telecommunication Union which we'll be
> adding to between now and the next Plenipotentiary (Oct/Nov 2018).
>
> Link here: https://www.gp-digital.org/event/itu-info-hub/
>
> These resources include:
>
>    - A *blog series *setting out information about the ITU, how it works,
>    the issues being discussed and their impact on human rights, and how to
>    engage;
>    - A *calendar and forum map* highlighting key dates and events at (and
>    around) the ITU;
>    - A *series of ITU explainers*, which serve as accessible
>    introductions to some of the technical subjects that are being discussed at
>    the ITU; and
>    - *Useful links* to other relevant websites and information sources.
>
> We've also set up a dedicated ITU mailing list. Just email
> richard at gp-digital.org to be added using the subject line ‘ITU mailing
> list’, and we’ll add you. And also do feel free to get in touch with any
> other questions you might have about about our work with the ITU, or
> suggestions of events to add to the calendar.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> ---
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From alex.comninos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 06:23:32 2018
From: alex.comninos at gmail.com (Alex Comninos)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 13:23:32 +0200
Subject: [bestbits] Tech for Good & Evil: Please Help Collect Resources
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Hi All, 

Perhaps a recent publication of mine, FABRICS: Emerging AI Readiness (https://vous.ai/FABRICS-Emerging-AI-Readiness-Comninos-Konzett-First-Edition-2018-LQ.pdf), which looks at algorithmic/systems transparency of AI and automated systems and the right to explanation may be of use.

Kind regards, 
Alex

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> On 01 Nov 2018, at 18:41, Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Could you help me collect any and all info that may be available on the use of technology for good and evil? 
> 
> I'm looking bibliographies, syllabi, media resources, and any other materials you may be aware of. 
> 
> I'm looking for seminal and other readings, disciplinary or multidisciplinary readings, country-specific or cross-cultural readings.
> 
> Below is a list of the topics that I have identified thus far. If I'm missing any others or you believe there's a better way of organizing them, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Yosem
> Accountability, Corruption, Openness, and Transparency (e.g., Open Data, Freedom of Information - FOI)
> Activism, Protests, and Movements (e.g., Occupy, Anonymous, Hacktivism)
> Agriculture, Farming, and Food Security (e.g., eAgri, Fishing, Mariculture, Aquaponics, Aquaculture)
> Censorship, Repression, and Freedom (e.g., Freedom of Expression - FoE, Free Speech, NetFreedom, Right to Information - RTI)
> Conflict, Disasters, and Resilience (e.g., Crisis Mapping, Robotics, Cyber Attacks/Defense, Cyber War, Harassment, Hate Crimes)
> Construction, Housing, and Real Estate (e.g., Smart Homes, Internet of Things)
> Democracy, Politics, Elections, and Voting (e.g., Netroots, Tea Party, eVoting)
> Development (e.g., Information and Communication Technologies for Development - ICT4D, Tech for Development - Tech4Dev, Global Development - GlobalDev)
> Economics (e.g., Participatory Economy, Peer-to-Peer Economy, Commons, Unemployment, Job Creation/Destruction, Consumer Rights)
> Education (e.g., Information and Communication Technologies for Education - ICT4E, Open Education, eLearning, MOOCs)
> Ethics (e.g., how the design and use values of technology determine whether they're used for good or evil)
> Energy and Power (e.g., Microgrids)
> Entrepreneurship (e.g., Social Entrepreneurship - socent, Social Innovation)
> Environment (e.g., Brownfields, Landfills, Superfund Sites, Climate Change, and Land, Water, and Air Preservation)
> Finance (e.g., Microfinance, FinTech, Blockchain, Cryptocurrencies, Participatory Budgeting, Crowdfunding)
> Governance (e.g., eGovernance - eGov, Open Governance - OpenGov, Governance 2.0 - gov20, Internet Governance Forum, Civic Tech)
> Health (e.g., eHealth, mHealth, Telemedicine)
> Human rights
> Inequality & Bias (e.g., Digital Divide, Cost of Living, Discrimination, Harassment)
> Manufacturing (e.g., Additive Technologies, 3D Printing, Do-It-Yourself - DIY, Robotics, Open Innovation)
> Media (e.g., Journalism, Social Media)
> Organizing and Organizations (e.g., Nonprofits, Community-Based Organizations, Cooperatives, Labor Unions)
> Physical Spaces and Locations (e.g., Libraries, Coworking Spaces, Makerspaces, Hackerspaces, Fab Labs, Tool Sharing Libraries, Smart Cities, Mapping)
> Policy and Law (e.g., Policy Innovations, Legal Innovations)
> Privacy (e.g., Rules, Regulations, Laws, Frameworks)
> Security, Physical or Cyber (e.g., Cybersecurity, Internet of Things, Sexual Harassment and/or Violence, Security by Design)
> Social Science (e.g., Impact of Technology on Society)
> Transportation and Supply Chain on Land, Water, and Air (e.g., Hyperloop, Autonomous Vehicles, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, Drones, Smart Roads)
> Volunteering (e.g., Crowdsourcing, Participatory Mapping)
> Water Security (e.g., Watersheds, Water Purification)
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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 08:52:54 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 08:52:54 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Paris Peace Forum
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Hey folks,

Who from this list is confirmed to attend the Paris Peace Forum?

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From mike.oghia at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 11:48:25 2018
From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 17:48:25 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] We Need to Fix the News Media, Not Just Social Media
 series
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Hi Gus, all:

First, please forgive my somewhat belated reply. Second, thank you so much
for raising this critical subject concerning Internet governance. For the
past nine months, I've been the advisor on Internet governance for the
Global Forum on Media Development (GFMD) – a global network of 190
journalism support and media development organization. At IGF 2017, GFMD,
the Center for International Media Assistance (CIMA), ARTICLE 19, and
International Media Support (IMS) co-convened a working group meeting
focusing on issues that intersect both media development and Internet
governance, which led to this outcome: an issue paper
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hMclf0hz2PXa_VhOl7w2iRhFpvi-NZ0yeY2mJCN6QBA/edit?usp=sharing>
examining cross-cutting issues, where overlap between the two communities
occur, and recommendations.

This year, we are co-organizing a second edition, the Media Development and
Internet Governance Symposium 2018 (register here
<https://www.eventbrite.com/e/media-development-and-internet-governance-symposium-2018-tickets-51481544686>),
which will take place at the IGF venue from 14:00-18:00 on 12 November. We
cordially invite you to attend, and encourage any of your other colleagues
from Public Knowledge to join as well if this is an issue you'd like to
continue to explore in 2019. In case anyone else from this list is
interested, please register ASAP.

Again, thank you for addressing the issue more holistically.

Best,
-Michael



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:30 AM Gus Rossi <gus at publicknowledge.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> At PK we've been doing some thinking and writing about how to fix the news
> media, not just social media.
>
> We believe that focusing blame Google and Facebook for the decline of
> in-depth news reporting and print journalism ignores the real and
> long-standing problems that lie at the heart of our troubled relationship
> with corporate media. Insisting that these companies should fund existing
> corporate media, or that we should solve the problem by allowing even more
> consolidation, would be a disaster for democracy.
>
> From that starting point, we build:
>
> Part 1:
> https://www.publicknowledge.org/news-blog/blogs/part-v-we-need-to-fix-the-news-media-not-just-social-media-1
>
> Part 2:
> https://www.publicknowledge.org/news-blog/blogs/part-v-fix-media-not-social-media-part-2
>
> Part 3:
> https://www.publicknowledge.org/news-blog/blogs/part-v-we-need-to-fix-the-news-media-not-just-social-media-part-3
>
> We hope the above contribute to our ongoing and collective conversation on
> platform regulation.
>
> Best,
>
> Gus
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From parminder at itforchange.net  Mon Nov  5 12:19:58 2018
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 22:49:58 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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Hi David

Sorry for the delay, was busy. My responses are below ...

On 30/10/18 8:31 AM, David Cake wrote:
> snip
>
>
> 	Thinking of it as left/right is simplistic. 

Ian called it a lurch to the right, and I just followed up to ask --
since this is an IG discussion list -- whether trying to take the
epicentre of global IG to the WEF was not a lurch to the right? You dont
think it is a fair question?

> Authoritarian governments come in both left and right varieties.

They absolutely do.... Left -- or starting as left -- has in fact much
more than an equal share here.


>  The UN has proved to be very good at providing a way for authoritarian governments, such as the Saudi and PRC regimes, to have strong international influence. 
> 	The UN system has the Saudis as active, influential member of the Human Rights Council - do you think that Internet Governance would be better off if regimes like KSA were more influential? 
> 	Following the UN system is to empower anti-democratic states, and thus weaken civil society. Why do you think that is leftist? 

Why would I say the UN is leftist? Not sure how you are applying this
terminology here . As for propping Saudi regimes -- dont tell me you
dont know who really props the Saudi regime... Ok ,let me give a cue...
It is the country that sits at the top of the global governance of the
Internet, both formal kinds like the ICANN system, and informal kinds,
like the private governance run by its global corporations. BTW, just
the last month, Trump in his typically boorish way said that Saudi
regime would not exist but for the US, and this was one of the rare
moments of Trump speaking what is considerably true (with all respect to
the Saudi people).

So, my question is, why do you oppose the role of the UN in global IG
just bec Saudi regime is one of about 190 members of the UN, and by turn
participates in its bodies, but seem to have no opinion on the fact the
global IG is today largely run by a country who fully props and keeps
alive that regime (which will quite well survive without the UN but not
without the US)...

At least at the UN there is some logic for Saudi regime's participation.
It is like, say, in India (as well many other democratic countries),
there are people with criminal records in the parliament, but for that I
do not oppose the institution of parliament itself but would like to see
how at the electoral level in the districts such a selection or election
does not take place..... But US's propping of the regime you seem to
have great problem with is for the most narrow and selfish reasons, to
get oil supplies, bec Saudi's the biggest buyers of US arms, and one of
the biggest investors inside the US,  and so on.... When during the IANA
transition, there was a demand at least to get immunity for ICANN from
US jurisdiction (the one that props saudi regime), at least under its
own immunity laws, I did not hear you , or other UN haters here, at all
give any opinion, much less support.....

Politics is an art of the possible, in choosing between the US and the
UN to lead or anchor global IG (or, well, the WEF), my choice is
clear... What is yours? (Pl dont give me any bottom-up fokllore, lets
stay in an adults discussion, I mean lets stay real)

> 	Or to put it another way - why are you still simplistically equating the UN system with ‘the left’ or ‘democracy’ after all these years, when the arguments that that is a simplistic and problematic position have been made again and again, and never really answered?

I answered above, as I have often and always answered... To which answer
I am eager to hear your response ... In fact, what you and others have
never answered is how US, or global corporate, leadership of global IG
is better than the UN's? Would you care to answer it now?

>> The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages often using the cover of social liberalism without economic egalitarianism -- where market without political governance was to be the defender of rights!
> 	And you won’t find many defenders of neoliberalism here - but there is some value in defending actual liberalism, such as valuing democracy over authoritarian states.


Absolutely so. Real liberalism is one the greatest achievements of human
civilisation (I am currently reading the brilliant 'The liberal hour' by
JK Galbraith) . And yes  democracy has to be valued over, and saved
from, its political suppression in authoritarianism, as well as its
economic suppression in neoliberalism. (There are people here who
opposed putting the world 'democracy' in a UNESCO IG related declaration
in 2015 claiming that it 'carries baggage'!


>> This is a direct result of promotion of an one-sided talk of human rights -- only civil and political ones and not social and economic ones, which have openly been flouted even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot ask me for real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many….
>> Ok, take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of 'public interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of ICANN's)website, to which many CS stalwarts of IG belong.
> 	Indeed, because the concept of public interest has been coopted within ICANN to justify policies that have no real connection to the public interest, such as expansion of trademark interests. The PICS (Public Interest Commitment System) has been gravely abused to enforce policies like a globally protected trademark list that have been rejected through community policy processes. In other words, NCUC has doubts about the use of public interest arguments because they have been used to justify the sort of policies I expect you would oppose. 
> 	It is fair to say that NCUC is divided over the question of whether the public interest can be defined in a useful manner that is meaningfully defined yet limits its potential for this form of abuse. But I don’t think you would be in disagreement over the problematic use of public interest arguments. 

People have misused the concept of democracy, in fact many despots do
so..... we do not therefore junk or question the very term or concept of
'democracy' but question how it is implemented or distorted...
Similarly, 'public interest' is often mis-used, but in response one does
not critique or junk the term 'public interest' but question its use or
distortion, etc. My problem is that NCUC ridiculed the term 'public
interest' on its website... To ridicule 'public interest', is to
ridicule democracy.


>
>> And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of progressive and democratic ideals that the global trans-national elite has brought on us in blind pursuit of their global economic interests (Zizek's 'Clinton not Trump is the problem' precisely captures it). 
> 	And that you find neoliberalism implicitly more problematic than authoritarianism is consistent with your positions in IG, and I will continue to find authoritarianism the bigger enemy. 

Would you care to back your accusation please. I insist. Thanks.

Meanwhile, let me tell what my position is: suppression of civil and
political rights is much worse than denial of social and economic
rights, and therefore authoritarianism much worse than market
fundamentalism or neoliberalism.  And unlike civil society free lancers,
I work full time with a CS organisation (IT for Change) and global
networks like Just Net Coalition, Our World is Not for Sale, and a few
others... And the positions of all these are very well explained in many
documents publicly available on their websites.. So, perhaps you will
like to educate yourself on these positions before making nasty
allegations. I hate to be making defences of such a kind, but I have
often said on lists like ISOC that for instance the social credit system
of China, the perfect embodiment of digital governmentality, is the
single biggest threat in the world right now....

> Which isn’t to say that we shouldn’t push away from neoliberalism back towards more liberal democratic ideas - but that is precisely why I support governance mechanisms in which civil society has a strong voice, because it allows us to have a voice in policy so it is not simply dominated by commercial and (early lobbied) government voices.

That same multistakeholder system that stood silent when people proposed
that ICANN be given jurisdictional immunity under US's own international
organisations immunity act, and had not the guts to speak up in front of
the master!? Or the one that happily tried to transport global IG's
focal point to the WEF vis the NetMundial initiative? It is a joke..

You want to know where civil society has voice... there is something
called participatory democracy, a much older concept that
multi-stakeholderism conveniently upstaged in the IG space. It has a
rich history of both theory and practice.Going through a few pages of it
will easily tell you what is wrong with IG's MSism..

best, parminder


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>
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From parminder at itforchange.net  Tue Nov  6 00:38:25 2018
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:08:25 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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This connects to my below email and therefore posting it...

Iran to be choked by cutting if from global financial grids, at the whim
and fancy of the US President

https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1450521/swift-suspends-iran-banks

and hear the threat

"I promise you that doing business with Iran in defiance of our
sanctions will ultimately be a much more painful business decision than
pulling out of Iran and being connected to Iran entirely," says the US
Secretary of State ...
https://www.firstpost.com/business/us-warns-of-severe-swift-penalties-for-firms-continuing-sanctionable-commercial-transactions-with-iran-5509241.html

Simply bec though democrats under Obama were fine with getting along
with Iran, Trump is not, and so it is not even a bi-partisan US
decision, but then Iran is to be suffocated by de-linking it from global
financial grids.

The question for the IG-ians is: Why cant or wont the US do the same for
the Internet, its DNS and routing systems? That isnt much more drastic
than throwing a country off global financial grids .

Would those who have assiduously promoted and curated the US centred and
controlled global IG model explain, if indeed they think they owe any
explanation to anyone at all!

Or they can keep singing their UN-is-the-most-evil-tunes,

Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate
multilateral/ UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why
should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that
famous saying, 'First they came for the...... '

parminder



On 05/11/18 10:49 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> Sorry for the delay, was busy. My responses are below ...
>
> On 30/10/18 8:31 AM, David Cake wrote:
>> snip
>>
>>
>> 	Thinking of it as left/right is simplistic. 
>
> Ian called it a lurch to the right, and I just followed up to ask --
> since this is an IG discussion list -- whether trying to take the
> epicentre of global IG to the WEF was not a lurch to the right? You
> dont think it is a fair question?
>
>> Authoritarian governments come in both left and right varieties.
>
> They absolutely do.... Left -- or starting as left -- has in fact much
> more than an equal share here.
>
>
>>  The UN has proved to be very good at providing a way for authoritarian governments, such as the Saudi and PRC regimes, to have strong international influence. 
>> 	The UN system has the Saudis as active, influential member of the Human Rights Council - do you think that Internet Governance would be better off if regimes like KSA were more influential? 
>> 	Following the UN system is to empower anti-democratic states, and thus weaken civil society. Why do you think that is leftist? 
>
> Why would I say the UN is leftist? Not sure how you are applying this
> terminology here . As for propping Saudi regimes -- dont tell me you
> dont know who really props the Saudi regime... Ok ,let me give a
> cue... It is the country that sits at the top of the global governance
> of the Internet, both formal kinds like the ICANN system, and informal
> kinds, like the private governance run by its global corporations.
> BTW, just the last month, Trump in his typically boorish way said that
> Saudi regime would not exist but for the US, and this was one of the
> rare moments of Trump speaking what is considerably true (with all
> respect to the Saudi people).
>
> So, my question is, why do you oppose the role of the UN in global IG
> just bec Saudi regime is one of about 190 members of the UN, and by
> turn participates in its bodies, but seem to have no opinion on the
> fact the global IG is today largely run by a country who fully props
> and keeps alive that regime (which will quite well survive without the
> UN but not without the US)...
>
> At least at the UN there is some logic for Saudi regime's
> participation. It is like, say, in India (as well many other
> democratic countries), there are people with criminal records in the
> parliament, but for that I do not oppose the institution of parliament
> itself but would like to see how at the electoral level in the
> districts such a selection or election does not take place..... But
> US's propping of the regime you seem to have great problem with is for
> the most narrow and selfish reasons, to get oil supplies, bec Saudi's
> the biggest buyers of US arms, and one of the biggest investors inside
> the US,  and so on.... When during the IANA transition, there was a
> demand at least to get immunity for ICANN from US jurisdiction (the
> one that props saudi regime), at least under its own immunity laws, I
> did not hear you , or other UN haters here, at all give any opinion,
> much less support.....
>
> Politics is an art of the possible, in choosing between the US and the
> UN to lead or anchor global IG (or, well, the WEF), my choice is
> clear... What is yours? (Pl dont give me any bottom-up fokllore, lets
> stay in an adults discussion, I mean lets stay real)
>
>> 	Or to put it another way - why are you still simplistically equating the UN system with ‘the left’ or ‘democracy’ after all these years, when the arguments that that is a simplistic and problematic position have been made again and again, and never really answered?
>
> I answered above, as I have often and always answered... To which
> answer I am eager to hear your response ... In fact, what you and
> others have never answered is how US, or global corporate, leadership
> of global IG is better than the UN's? Would you care to answer it now?
>
>>> The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages often using the cover of social liberalism without economic egalitarianism -- where market without political governance was to be the defender of rights!
>> 	And you won’t find many defenders of neoliberalism here - but there is some value in defending actual liberalism, such as valuing democracy over authoritarian states.
>
>
> Absolutely so. Real liberalism is one the greatest achievements of
> human civilisation (I am currently reading the brilliant 'The liberal
> hour' by JK Galbraith) . And yes  democracy has to be valued over, and
> saved from, its political suppression in authoritarianism, as well as
> its economic suppression in neoliberalism. (There are people here who
> opposed putting the world 'democracy' in a UNESCO IG related
> declaration in 2015 claiming that it 'carries baggage'!
>
>
>>> This is a direct result of promotion of an one-sided talk of human rights -- only civil and political ones and not social and economic ones, which have openly been flouted even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot ask me for real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many….
>>> Ok, take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of 'public interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of ICANN's)website, to which many CS stalwarts of IG belong.
>> 	Indeed, because the concept of public interest has been coopted within ICANN to justify policies that have no real connection to the public interest, such as expansion of trademark interests. The PICS (Public Interest Commitment System) has been gravely abused to enforce policies like a globally protected trademark list that have been rejected through community policy processes. In other words, NCUC has doubts about the use of public interest arguments because they have been used to justify the sort of policies I expect you would oppose. 
>> 	It is fair to say that NCUC is divided over the question of whether the public interest can be defined in a useful manner that is meaningfully defined yet limits its potential for this form of abuse. But I don’t think you would be in disagreement over the problematic use of public interest arguments. 
>
> People have misused the concept of democracy, in fact many despots do
> so..... we do not therefore junk or question the very term or concept
> of 'democracy' but question how it is implemented or distorted...
> Similarly, 'public interest' is often mis-used, but in response one
> does not critique or junk the term 'public interest' but question its
> use or distortion, etc. My problem is that NCUC ridiculed the term
> 'public interest' on its website... To ridicule 'public interest', is
> to ridicule democracy.
>
>
>>
>>> And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of progressive and democratic ideals that the global trans-national elite has brought on us in blind pursuit of their global economic interests (Zizek's 'Clinton not Trump is the problem' precisely captures it). 
>> 	And that you find neoliberalism implicitly more problematic than authoritarianism is consistent with your positions in IG, and I will continue to find authoritarianism the bigger enemy. 
>
> Would you care to back your accusation please. I insist. Thanks.
>
> Meanwhile, let me tell what my position is: suppression of civil and
> political rights is much worse than denial of social and economic
> rights, and therefore authoritarianism much worse than market
> fundamentalism or neoliberalism.  And unlike civil society free
> lancers, I work full time with a CS organisation (IT for Change) and
> global networks like Just Net Coalition, Our World is Not for Sale,
> and a few others... And the positions of all these are very well
> explained in many documents publicly available on their websites.. So,
> perhaps you will like to educate yourself on these positions before
> making nasty allegations. I hate to be making defences of such a kind,
> but I have often said on lists like ISOC that for instance the social
> credit system of China, the perfect embodiment of digital
> governmentality, is the single biggest threat in the world right now....
>
>> Which isn’t to say that we shouldn’t push away from neoliberalism back towards more liberal democratic ideas - but that is precisely why I support governance mechanisms in which civil society has a strong voice, because it allows us to have a voice in policy so it is not simply dominated by commercial and (early lobbied) government voices.
>
> That same multistakeholder system that stood silent when people
> proposed that ICANN be given jurisdictional immunity under US's own
> international organisations immunity act, and had not the guts to
> speak up in front of the master!? Or the one that happily tried to
> transport global IG's focal point to the WEF vis the NetMundial
> initiative? It is a joke..
>
> You want to know where civil society has voice... there is something
> called participatory democracy, a much older concept that
> multi-stakeholderism conveniently upstaged in the IG space. It has a
> rich history of both theory and practice.Going through a few pages of
> it will easily tell you what is wrong with IG's MSism..
>
> best, parminder
>
>
>>  
>>
>> 	Regards
>>
>> 	David
>>
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Swift was sanctioned in Iran during Obama time.

Beloved UN imposed some of the most severe sanctions on Iran.

It was the civil society/noncommercials that brought the voice of people
and issue of sanctions to ICANN and made concrete recommendations. Until
then, no one even knew what was going on. Even the governments of
sanctioned countries were not aware of sanctions. (issue of sanctions were
brought forward through a process some were so keen on bashing because it
did not help them with their idealistic notions of Internet governance,
caring about people was not at stake at that time).

And then:

<<But why should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran>>

The sentence above is a very simplistic way of provocation. So I  choose to
ignore it.








Farzaneh


On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

> This connects to my below email and therefore posting it...
>
> Iran to be choked by cutting if from global financial grids, at the whim
> and fancy of the US President
>
> https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1450521/swift-suspends-iran-banks
>
> and hear the threat
>
> "I promise you that doing business with Iran in defiance of our sanctions
> will ultimately be a much more painful business decision than pulling out
> of Iran and being connected to Iran entirely," says the US Secretary of
> State ...
> https://www.firstpost.com/business/us-warns-of-severe-swift-penalties-for-firms-continuing-sanctionable-commercial-transactions-with-iran-5509241.html
>
> Simply bec though democrats under Obama were fine with getting along with
> Iran, Trump is not, and so it is not even a bi-partisan US decision, but
> then Iran is to be suffocated by de-linking it from global financial grids.
>
> The question for the IG-ians is: Why cant or wont the US do the same for
> the Internet, its DNS and routing systems? That isnt much more drastic than
> throwing a country off global financial grids .
>
> Would those who have assiduously promoted and curated the US centred and
> controlled global IG model explain, if indeed they think they owe any
> explanation to anyone at all!
>
> Or they can keep singing their UN-is-the-most-evil-tunes,
>
> Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate
> multilateral/ UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why
> should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that
> famous saying, 'First they came for the...... '
> parminder
>
>
>
> On 05/11/18 10:49 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> Sorry for the delay, was busy. My responses are below ...
> On 30/10/18 8:31 AM, David Cake wrote:
>
> snip
>
>
> 	Thinking of it as left/right is simplistic.
>
> Ian called it a lurch to the right, and I just followed up to ask -- since
> this is an IG discussion list -- whether trying to take the epicentre of
> global IG to the WEF was not a lurch to the right? You dont think it is a
> fair question?
>
> Authoritarian governments come in both left and right varieties.
>
> They absolutely do.... Left -- or starting as left -- has in fact much
> more than an equal share here.
>
>
>  The UN has proved to be very good at providing a way for authoritarian governments, such as the Saudi and PRC regimes, to have strong international influence.
> 	The UN system has the Saudis as active, influential member of the Human Rights Council - do you think that Internet Governance would be better off if regimes like KSA were more influential?
> 	Following the UN system is to empower anti-democratic states, and thus weaken civil society. Why do you think that is leftist?
>
> Why would I say the UN is leftist? Not sure how you are applying this
> terminology here . As for propping Saudi regimes -- dont tell me you dont
> know who really props the Saudi regime... Ok ,let me give a cue... It is
> the country that sits at the top of the global governance of the Internet,
> both formal kinds like the ICANN system, and informal kinds, like the
> private governance run by its global corporations. BTW, just the last
> month, Trump in his typically boorish way said that Saudi regime would not
> exist but for the US, and this was one of the rare moments of Trump
> speaking what is considerably true (with all respect to the Saudi people).
>
> So, my question is, why do you oppose the role of the UN in global IG just
> bec Saudi regime is one of about 190 members of the UN, and by turn
> participates in its bodies, but seem to have no opinion on the fact the
> global IG is today largely run by a country who fully props and keeps alive
> that regime (which will quite well survive without the UN but not without
> the US)...
>
> At least at the UN there is some logic for Saudi regime's participation.
> It is like, say, in India (as well many other democratic countries), there
> are people with criminal records in the parliament, but for that I do not
> oppose the institution of parliament itself but would like to see how at
> the electoral level in the districts such a selection or election does not
> take place..... But US's propping of the regime you seem to have great
> problem with is for the most narrow and selfish reasons, to get oil
> supplies, bec Saudi's the biggest buyers of US arms, and one of the biggest
> investors inside the US,  and so on.... When during the IANA transition,
> there was a demand at least to get immunity for ICANN from US jurisdiction
> (the one that props saudi regime), at least under its own immunity laws, I
> did not hear you , or other UN haters here, at all give any opinion, much
> less support.....
>
> Politics is an art of the possible, in choosing between the US and the UN
> to lead or anchor global IG (or, well, the WEF), my choice is clear... What
> is yours? (Pl dont give me any bottom-up fokllore, lets stay in an adults
> discussion, I mean lets stay real)
>
> 	Or to put it another way - why are you still simplistically equating the UN system with ‘the left’ or ‘democracy’ after all these years, when the arguments that that is a simplistic and problematic position have been made again and again, and never really answered?
>
> I answered above, as I have often and always answered... To which answer I
> am eager to hear your response ... In fact, what you and others have never
> answered is how US, or global corporate, leadership of global IG is better
> than the UN's? Would you care to answer it now?
>
> The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages often using the cover of social liberalism without economic egalitarianism -- where market without political governance was to be the defender of rights!
>
> 	And you won’t find many defenders of neoliberalism here - but there is some value in defending actual liberalism, such as valuing democracy over authoritarian states.
>
>
> Absolutely so. Real liberalism is one the greatest achievements of human
> civilisation (I am currently reading the brilliant 'The liberal hour' by JK
> Galbraith) . And yes  democracy has to be valued over, and saved from, its
> political suppression in authoritarianism, as well as its economic
> suppression in neoliberalism. (There are people here who opposed putting
> the world 'democracy' in a UNESCO IG related declaration in 2015 claiming
> that it 'carries baggage'!
>
>
> This is a direct result of promotion of an one-sided talk of human rights -- only civil and political ones and not social and economic ones, which have openly been flouted even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot ask me for real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many….
>
> Ok, take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of 'public interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of ICANN's)website, to which many CS stalwarts of IG belong.
>
> 	Indeed, because the concept of public interest has been coopted within ICANN to justify policies that have no real connection to the public interest, such as expansion of trademark interests. The PICS (Public Interest Commitment System) has been gravely abused to enforce policies like a globally protected trademark list that have been rejected through community policy processes. In other words, NCUC has doubts about the use of public interest arguments because they have been used to justify the sort of policies I expect you would oppose.
> 	It is fair to say that NCUC is divided over the question of whether the public interest can be defined in a useful manner that is meaningfully defined yet limits its potential for this form of abuse. But I don’t think you would be in disagreement over the problematic use of public interest arguments.
>
> People have misused the concept of democracy, in fact many despots do
> so..... we do not therefore junk or question the very term or concept of
> 'democracy' but question how it is implemented or distorted... Similarly,
> 'public interest' is often mis-used, but in response one does not critique
> or junk the term 'public interest' but question its use or distortion, etc.
> My problem is that NCUC ridiculed the term 'public interest' on its
> website... To ridicule 'public interest', is to ridicule democracy.
>
>
>
> And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of progressive and democratic ideals that the global trans-national elite has brought on us in blind pursuit of their global economic interests (Zizek's 'Clinton not Trump is the problem' precisely captures it).
>
> 	And that you find neoliberalism implicitly more problematic than authoritarianism is consistent with your positions in IG, and I will continue to find authoritarianism the bigger enemy.
>
> Would you care to back your accusation please. I insist. Thanks.
>
> Meanwhile, let me tell what my position is: suppression of civil and
> political rights is much worse than denial of social and economic rights,
> and therefore authoritarianism much worse than market fundamentalism or
> neoliberalism.  And unlike civil society free lancers, I work full time
> with a CS organisation (IT for Change) and global networks like Just Net
> Coalition, Our World is Not for Sale, and a few others... And the positions
> of all these are very well explained in many documents publicly available
> on their websites.. So, perhaps you will like to educate yourself on these
> positions before making nasty allegations. I hate to be making defences of
> such a kind, but I have often said on lists like ISOC that for instance the
> social credit system of China, the perfect embodiment of digital
> governmentality, is the single biggest threat in the world right now....
>
> Which isn’t to say that we shouldn’t push away from neoliberalism back towards more liberal democratic ideas - but that is precisely why I support governance mechanisms in which civil society has a strong voice, because it allows us to have a voice in policy so it is not simply dominated by commercial and (early lobbied) government voices.
>
> That same multistakeholder system that stood silent when people proposed
> that ICANN be given jurisdictional immunity under US's own international
> organisations immunity act, and had not the guts to speak up in front of
> the master!? Or the one that happily tried to transport global IG's focal
> point to the WEF vis the NetMundial initiative? It is a joke..
>
> You want to know where civil society has voice... there is something
> called participatory democracy, a much older concept that
> multi-stakeholderism conveniently upstaged in the IG space. It has a rich
> history of both theory and practice.Going through a few pages of it will
> easily tell you what is wrong with IG's MSism..
>
> best, parminder
>
>
>
>
> 	Regards
>
> 	David
>
>
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From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 01:01:45 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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Correction:
<Even the governments of sanctioned countries were not aware of how
sanctions affected the DNS and their people>

Farzaneh


On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:59 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Swift was sanctioned in Iran during Obama time.
>
> Beloved UN imposed some of the most severe sanctions on Iran.
>
> It was the civil society/noncommercials that brought the voice of people
> and issue of sanctions to ICANN and made concrete recommendations. Until
> then, no one even knew what was going on. Even the governments of
> sanctioned countries were not aware of sanctions. (issue of sanctions were
> brought forward through a process some were so keen on bashing because it
> did not help them with their idealistic notions of Internet governance,
> caring about people was not at stake at that time).
>
> And then:
>
> <<But why should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran>>
>
> The sentence above is a very simplistic way of provocation. So I  choose
> to ignore it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> wrote:
>
>> This connects to my below email and therefore posting it...
>>
>> Iran to be choked by cutting if from global financial grids, at the whim
>> and fancy of the US President
>>
>> https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1450521/swift-suspends-iran-banks
>>
>> and hear the threat
>>
>> "I promise you that doing business with Iran in defiance of our sanctions
>> will ultimately be a much more painful business decision than pulling out
>> of Iran and being connected to Iran entirely," says the US Secretary of
>> State ...
>> https://www.firstpost.com/business/us-warns-of-severe-swift-penalties-for-firms-continuing-sanctionable-commercial-transactions-with-iran-5509241.html
>>
>> Simply bec though democrats under Obama were fine with getting along with
>> Iran, Trump is not, and so it is not even a bi-partisan US decision, but
>> then Iran is to be suffocated by de-linking it from global financial grids.
>>
>> The question for the IG-ians is: Why cant or wont the US do the same for
>> the Internet, its DNS and routing systems? That isnt much more drastic than
>> throwing a country off global financial grids .
>>
>> Would those who have assiduously promoted and curated the US centred and
>> controlled global IG model explain, if indeed they think they owe any
>> explanation to anyone at all!
>>
>> Or they can keep singing their UN-is-the-most-evil-tunes,
>>
>> Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate
>> multilateral/ UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why
>> should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that
>> famous saying, 'First they came for the...... '
>> parminder
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/11/18 10:49 PM, parminder wrote:
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> Sorry for the delay, was busy. My responses are below ...
>> On 30/10/18 8:31 AM, David Cake wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>> 	Thinking of it as left/right is simplistic.
>>
>> Ian called it a lurch to the right, and I just followed up to ask --
>> since this is an IG discussion list -- whether trying to take the epicentre
>> of global IG to the WEF was not a lurch to the right? You dont think it is
>> a fair question?
>>
>> Authoritarian governments come in both left and right varieties.
>>
>> They absolutely do.... Left -- or starting as left -- has in fact much
>> more than an equal share here.
>>
>>
>>  The UN has proved to be very good at providing a way for authoritarian governments, such as the Saudi and PRC regimes, to have strong international influence.
>> 	The UN system has the Saudis as active, influential member of the Human Rights Council - do you think that Internet Governance would be better off if regimes like KSA were more influential?
>> 	Following the UN system is to empower anti-democratic states, and thus weaken civil society. Why do you think that is leftist?
>>
>> Why would I say the UN is leftist? Not sure how you are applying this
>> terminology here . As for propping Saudi regimes -- dont tell me you dont
>> know who really props the Saudi regime... Ok ,let me give a cue... It is
>> the country that sits at the top of the global governance of the Internet,
>> both formal kinds like the ICANN system, and informal kinds, like the
>> private governance run by its global corporations. BTW, just the last
>> month, Trump in his typically boorish way said that Saudi regime would not
>> exist but for the US, and this was one of the rare moments of Trump
>> speaking what is considerably true (with all respect to the Saudi people).
>>
>> So, my question is, why do you oppose the role of the UN in global IG
>> just bec Saudi regime is one of about 190 members of the UN, and by turn
>> participates in its bodies, but seem to have no opinion on the fact the
>> global IG is today largely run by a country who fully props and keeps alive
>> that regime (which will quite well survive without the UN but not without
>> the US)...
>>
>> At least at the UN there is some logic for Saudi regime's participation.
>> It is like, say, in India (as well many other democratic countries), there
>> are people with criminal records in the parliament, but for that I do not
>> oppose the institution of parliament itself but would like to see how at
>> the electoral level in the districts such a selection or election does not
>> take place..... But US's propping of the regime you seem to have great
>> problem with is for the most narrow and selfish reasons, to get oil
>> supplies, bec Saudi's the biggest buyers of US arms, and one of the biggest
>> investors inside the US,  and so on.... When during the IANA transition,
>> there was a demand at least to get immunity for ICANN from US jurisdiction
>> (the one that props saudi regime), at least under its own immunity laws, I
>> did not hear you , or other UN haters here, at all give any opinion, much
>> less support.....
>>
>> Politics is an art of the possible, in choosing between the US and the UN
>> to lead or anchor global IG (or, well, the WEF), my choice is clear... What
>> is yours? (Pl dont give me any bottom-up fokllore, lets stay in an adults
>> discussion, I mean lets stay real)
>>
>> 	Or to put it another way - why are you still simplistically equating the UN system with ‘the left’ or ‘democracy’ after all these years, when the arguments that that is a simplistic and problematic position have been made again and again, and never really answered?
>>
>> I answered above, as I have often and always answered... To which answer
>> I am eager to hear your response ... In fact, what you and others have
>> never answered is how US, or global corporate, leadership of global IG is
>> better than the UN's? Would you care to answer it now?
>>
>> The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages often using the cover of social liberalism without economic egalitarianism -- where market without political governance was to be the defender of rights!
>>
>> 	And you won’t find many defenders of neoliberalism here - but there is some value in defending actual liberalism, such as valuing democracy over authoritarian states.
>>
>>
>> Absolutely so. Real liberalism is one the greatest achievements of human
>> civilisation (I am currently reading the brilliant 'The liberal hour' by JK
>> Galbraith) . And yes  democracy has to be valued over, and saved from, its
>> political suppression in authoritarianism, as well as its economic
>> suppression in neoliberalism. (There are people here who opposed putting
>> the world 'democracy' in a UNESCO IG related declaration in 2015 claiming
>> that it 'carries baggage'!
>>
>>
>> This is a direct result of promotion of an one-sided talk of human rights -- only civil and political ones and not social and economic ones, which have openly been flouted even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot ask me for real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many….
>>
>> Ok, take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of 'public interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of ICANN's)website, to which many CS stalwarts of IG belong.
>>
>> 	Indeed, because the concept of public interest has been coopted within ICANN to justify policies that have no real connection to the public interest, such as expansion of trademark interests. The PICS (Public Interest Commitment System) has been gravely abused to enforce policies like a globally protected trademark list that have been rejected through community policy processes. In other words, NCUC has doubts about the use of public interest arguments because they have been used to justify the sort of policies I expect you would oppose.
>> 	It is fair to say that NCUC is divided over the question of whether the public interest can be defined in a useful manner that is meaningfully defined yet limits its potential for this form of abuse. But I don’t think you would be in disagreement over the problematic use of public interest arguments.
>>
>> People have misused the concept of democracy, in fact many despots do
>> so..... we do not therefore junk or question the very term or concept of
>> 'democracy' but question how it is implemented or distorted... Similarly,
>> 'public interest' is often mis-used, but in response one does not critique
>> or junk the term 'public interest' but question its use or distortion, etc.
>> My problem is that NCUC ridiculed the term 'public interest' on its
>> website... To ridicule 'public interest', is to ridicule democracy.
>>
>>
>>
>> And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of progressive and democratic ideals that the global trans-national elite has brought on us in blind pursuit of their global economic interests (Zizek's 'Clinton not Trump is the problem' precisely captures it).
>>
>> 	And that you find neoliberalism implicitly more problematic than authoritarianism is consistent with your positions in IG, and I will continue to find authoritarianism the bigger enemy.
>>
>> Would you care to back your accusation please. I insist. Thanks.
>>
>> Meanwhile, let me tell what my position is: suppression of civil and
>> political rights is much worse than denial of social and economic rights,
>> and therefore authoritarianism much worse than market fundamentalism or
>> neoliberalism.  And unlike civil society free lancers, I work full time
>> with a CS organisation (IT for Change) and global networks like Just Net
>> Coalition, Our World is Not for Sale, and a few others... And the positions
>> of all these are very well explained in many documents publicly available
>> on their websites.. So, perhaps you will like to educate yourself on these
>> positions before making nasty allegations. I hate to be making defences of
>> such a kind, but I have often said on lists like ISOC that for instance the
>> social credit system of China, the perfect embodiment of digital
>> governmentality, is the single biggest threat in the world right now....
>>
>> Which isn’t to say that we shouldn’t push away from neoliberalism back towards more liberal democratic ideas - but that is precisely why I support governance mechanisms in which civil society has a strong voice, because it allows us to have a voice in policy so it is not simply dominated by commercial and (early lobbied) government voices.
>>
>> That same multistakeholder system that stood silent when people proposed
>> that ICANN be given jurisdictional immunity under US's own international
>> organisations immunity act, and had not the guts to speak up in front of
>> the master!? Or the one that happily tried to transport global IG's focal
>> point to the WEF vis the NetMundial initiative? It is a joke..
>>
>> You want to know where civil society has voice... there is something
>> called participatory democracy, a much older concept that
>> multi-stakeholderism conveniently upstaged in the IG space. It has a rich
>> history of both theory and practice.Going through a few pages of it will
>> easily tell you what is wrong with IG's MSism..
>>
>> best, parminder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 	Regards
>>
>> 	David
>>
>>
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From david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu  Tue Nov  6 11:35:54 2018
From: david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu (david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:35:54 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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[interleaved, below]

> On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:59 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> <<But why should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran>>
> 
> The sentence above is a very simplistic way of provocation. So I  choose to ignore it. 
> 
> Farzaneh


Hmmm … seems the key part was not included in the quote above:

> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
> ... But you all [know] that famous saying, 'First they came for the......
> 
> parminder

Of course the whole point of this apocryphal line:  Those who might change outcomes do – indeed – ignore the warning signs, until too late, for them, too (and for everyone) …

David

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From bzs at theworld.com  Tue Nov  6 14:17:28 2018
From: bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:17:28 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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On November 6, 2018 at 11:08 parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) wrote:
 > Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate multilateral/
 > UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why should people  here
 > protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that famous saying, 'First they
 > came for the...... '
 > 
 > parminder

There's something startling about referring to a phrase from Niemoller
which is generally associated with the Nazi's extermination of Jews in
defense of Iran's govt which has an enormous amount of Jewish blood on
its hands and wears it proudly. And oceans of Arab blood for that
matter (they do materially support Assad in Syria.)

I know, key in the usual nihilistic blather because I suppose one can
always defend any murderous regime by merely making reference to some
other govt one has criticisms of and declaring it all to be in some
sort of sociopathic balance so "fair".

Mere financial sanctions against Iran is indicative of a very civil
and civilized treatment of that govt's decades of projected
ruthlessness responsible for the destruction and dissipation of
millions of lives not least of which the Iranian people.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu  Tue Nov  6 14:42:06 2018
From: david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu (david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:42:06 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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Oceans of blood, all over the place. Yemen, anyone? _Millions_ at the edge. Brought to us by the Iranians’ sworn (blood) enemy, SA, with US armaments. Or, Vietnam, a million dead, just at the hands of the US … for which it got its a.. kicked. Or, the list goes on, truly endlessly. Bad guys all over.

Therefore – especially – reason to face off bullies early on, before they get truly beyond the pale. The thrust of the Niemoller. In my view anyway.

To do what we may, to damp the cycle of violence. And especially to staunch bullies, everywhere.

David


> On Nov 6, 2018, at 2:17 PM, bzs at theworld.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On November 6, 2018 at 11:08 parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) wrote:
>> Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate multilateral/
>> UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why should people  here
>> protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that famous saying, 'First they
>> came for the...... '
>> 
>> parminder
> 
> There's something startling about referring to a phrase from Niemoller
> which is generally associated with the Nazi's extermination of Jews in
> defense of Iran's govt which has an enormous amount of Jewish blood on
> its hands and wears it proudly. And oceans of Arab blood for that
> matter (they do materially support Assad in Syria.)
> 
> I know, key in the usual nihilistic blather because I suppose one can
> always defend any murderous regime by merely making reference to some
> other govt one has criticisms of and declaring it all to be in some
> sort of sociopathic balance so "fair".
> 
> Mere financial sanctions against Iran is indicative of a very civil
> and civilized treatment of that govt's decades of projected
> ruthlessness responsible for the destruction and dissipation of
> millions of lives not least of which the Iranian people.
> 
> -- 
>        -Barry Shein
> 
> Software Tool & Die    | bzs at TheWorld.com             | http://www.TheWorld.com
> Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD       | 800-THE-WRLD
> The World: Since 1989  | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
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From ycompanys at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 12:41:47 2018
From: ycompanys at gmail.com (Yosem Companys)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:41:47 -0700
Subject: [bestbits] Tech for Good & Evil: Please Help Collect Resources
Message-ID: <CANhci9FNpP6B4ugKyU3-VRCLjmSfu_BvdixZh=-H02R6gvrjGw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Could you help me collect any and all info that may be available on the use
of technology for good and evil?

I'm looking bibliographies, syllabi, media resources, and any other
materials you may be aware of.

I'm looking for seminal and other readings, disciplinary or
multidisciplinary readings, country-specific or cross-cultural readings.

Below is a list of the topics that I have identified thus far. If I'm
missing any others or you believe there's a better way of organizing them,
please let me know.

Thanks,
Yosem

   - Accountability, Corruption, Openness, and Transparency (e.g., Open
   Data, Freedom of Information - FOI)
   - Activism, Protests, and Movements (e.g., Occupy, Anonymous, Hacktivism)
   - Agriculture, Farming, and Food Security (e.g., eAgri, Fishing,
   Mariculture, Aquaponics, Aquaculture)
   - Censorship, Repression, and Freedom (e.g., Freedom of Expression -
   FoE, Free Speech, NetFreedom, Right to Information - RTI)
   - Conflict, Disasters, and Resilience (e.g., Crisis Mapping, Robotics,
   Cyber Attacks/Defense, Cyber War, Harassment, Hate Crimes)
   - Construction, Housing, and Real Estate (e.g., Smart Homes, Internet of
   Things)
   - Democracy, Politics, Elections, and Voting (e.g., Netroots, Tea Party,
   eVoting)
   - Development (e.g., Information and Communication Technologies for
   Development - ICT4D, Tech for Development - Tech4Dev, Global Development -
   GlobalDev)
   - Economics (e.g., Participatory Economy, Peer-to-Peer Economy, Commons,
   Unemployment, Job Creation/Destruction, Consumer Rights)
   - Education (e.g., Information and Communication Technologies for
   Education - ICT4E, Open Education, eLearning, MOOCs)
   - Ethics (e.g., how the design and use values of technology determine
   whether they're used for good or evil)
   - Energy and Power (e.g., Microgrids)
   - Entrepreneurship (e.g., Social Entrepreneurship - socent, Social
   Innovation)
   - Environment (e.g., Brownfields, Landfills, Superfund Sites, Climate
   Change, and Land, Water, and Air Preservation)
   - Finance (e.g., Microfinance, FinTech, Blockchain, Cryptocurrencies,
   Participatory Budgeting, Crowdfunding)
   - Governance (e.g., eGovernance - eGov, Open Governance - OpenGov,
   Governance 2.0 - gov20, Internet Governance Forum, Civic Tech)
   - Health (e.g., eHealth, mHealth, Telemedicine)
   - Human rights
   - Inequality & Bias (e.g., Digital Divide, Cost of Living,
   Discrimination, Harassment)
   - Manufacturing (e.g., Additive Technologies, 3D Printing,
   Do-It-Yourself - DIY, Robotics, Open Innovation)
   - Media (e.g., Journalism, Social Media)
   - Organizing and Organizations (e.g., Nonprofits, Community-Based
   Organizations, Cooperatives, Labor Unions)
   - Physical Spaces and Locations (e.g., Libraries, Coworking Spaces,
   Makerspaces, Hackerspaces, Fab Labs, Tool Sharing Libraries, Smart Cities,
   Mapping)
   - Policy and Law (e.g., Policy Innovations, Legal Innovations)
   - Privacy (e.g., Rules, Regulations, Laws, Frameworks)
   - Security, Physical or Cyber (e.g., Cybersecurity, Internet of Things,
   Sexual Harassment and/or Violence, Security by Design)
   - Social Science (e.g., Impact of Technology on Society)
   - Transportation and Supply Chain on Land, Water, and Air (e.g.,
   Hyperloop, Autonomous Vehicles, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, Drones, Smart
   Roads)
   - Volunteering (e.g., Crowdsourcing, Participatory Mapping)
   - Water Security (e.g., Watersheds, Water Purification)
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 14:52:18 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:52:18 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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 That saying does not apply here. The author says:
<<But why should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all
that famous saying, 'First they came for the......>>

1. I didn't want to step into the trap of announcing that I am Iranian (it
is known to many)  hence I care about the issue. Because the logic of if
you are not from somewhere you don't care about their issues is just flawed
and purely nationalistic. Yes I might know the situation better but that
does not mean every Iranian equally cares about it.

2. We as a community at NCSG and ICANN did not sit and watch for sanctions
to be applied to DNS. We brought the issue to the table and fought for it
to be resolved. It was not liked by some because it did not fit their
ideology and it was not revolutionary. And Iran was not the only affected
country.







Farzaneh


On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:36 AM <david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu> wrote:

> [interleaved, below]
>
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:59 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> <<But why should people  here protest, they aren't from Iran>>
>
> The sentence above is a very simplistic way of provocation. So I  choose
> to ignore it.
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
> Hmmm … seems the key part was not included in the quote above:
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:38 AM parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
> wrote:
>
>> ... But you all [know] that famous saying, 'First they came for the......
>> parminder
>>
>
> Of course the whole point of this apocryphal line:  Those who might change
> outcomes do – indeed – ignore the warning signs, until too late, for them,
> too (and for everyone) …
>
> David
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From bzs at TheWorld.com  Tue Nov  6 15:22:00 2018
From: bzs at TheWorld.com (bzs at TheWorld.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 15:22:00 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror
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On November 6, 2018 at 14:42 david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu (david_allen_ab63 at post.harvard.edu) wrote:
 > Oceans of blood, all over the place. Yemen, anyone? _Millions_ at the edge. Brought to us by the Iranians’ sworn (blood) enemy, SA, with US armaments. Or, Vietnam, a million dead, just at the hands of the US … for which it got its a.. kicked. Or, the list goes on, truly endlessly. Bad guys all over.

At least the US populace took to the streets by the millions, and
relentlessly, in opposition to the Vietnam war. And the draft
protesters many of whom faced prison time for refusing to go to that
war, etc. The govt reacted by labeling them traitors and "communists"
and often destroying the lives of opposition leaders and others, their
protests weren't without consequence and risk.

Nixon wasn't thrown out of office over that dumb burglary cover-up
(tho that merited it), it was his mishandling of that war which he
swore would be over swiftly when he first ran in 1968 but was still
unresolved when he was tossed out of office in 1974...almost 60,000 US
boys dead, many conscripted, for basically nothing gained, plus as you
note over a million Vietnamese and a horrific collapse of order in
Southeast Asia.

And his predecessor, LBJ, who withdrew his candidacy in 1968 after
losing a major primary (NH) to the anti-war Eugene McCarthy.

It was far from perfect but some credit (to those who opposed the war)
where credit is due.

 > 
 > Therefore – especially – reason to face off bullies early on, before they get truly beyond the pale. The thrust of the Niemoller. In my view anyway.
 > 
 > To do what we may, to damp the cycle of violence. And especially to staunch bullies, everywhere.

There is nothing in history more deadly than tolerating a govt one
should not have tolerated.

 > 
 > David
 > 
 > 
 > > On Nov 6, 2018, at 2:17 PM, bzs at theworld.com wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > > On November 6, 2018 at 11:08 parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) wrote:
 > >> Well, if SWIFT system had been under a appropriate and legitimate multilateral/
 > >> UN system, this atrocity would have been avoided.  But why should people  here
 > >> protest, they aren't from Iran . But you all that famous saying, 'First they
 > >> came for the...... '
 > >> 
 > >> parminder
 > > 
 > > There's something startling about referring to a phrase from Niemoller
 > > which is generally associated with the Nazi's extermination of Jews in
 > > defense of Iran's govt which has an enormous amount of Jewish blood on
 > > its hands and wears it proudly. And oceans of Arab blood for that
 > > matter (they do materially support Assad in Syria.)
 > > 
 > > I know, key in the usual nihilistic blather because I suppose one can
 > > always defend any murderous regime by merely making reference to some
 > > other govt one has criticisms of and declaring it all to be in some
 > > sort of sociopathic balance so "fair".
 > > 
 > > Mere financial sanctions against Iran is indicative of a very civil
 > > and civilized treatment of that govt's decades of projected
 > > ruthlessness responsible for the destruction and dissipation of
 > > millions of lives not least of which the Iranian people.
 > > 
 > > -- 
 > >        -Barry Shein
 > > 
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From rguerra at privaterra.org  Wed Nov  7 10:33:30 2018
From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 10:33:30 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Paris Peace Forum
In-Reply-To: <CAK-FJAemMBXN0ZUKZm0hkY+1odXO2GSvdRaDo97jOTM5cxX1jg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK-FJAemMBXN0ZUKZm0hkY+1odXO2GSvdRaDo97jOTM5cxX1jg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <936E0C39-E2D5-4793-826D-F11F57592019@privaterra.org>

Carolina,

I’ve registered for both the Paris Peace Forum and the GovtTech summit 
that is taking place in parallel with the IGF. Details, including 
registration for the GovtTech summit is below:

http://govtechsummit.eu/speakers/

Looking forward to see you and other colleagues from BestBits next week!

regards,

Robert

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Cel/Tel +1 416 893 0377
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Email: rguerra at privaterra.org
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On 5 Nov 2018, at 8:52, Carolina Rossini wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Who from this list is confirmed to attend the Paris Peace Forum?
>
> C
> -- 
>
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From collin at article19.org  Fri Nov  9 07:16:09 2018
From: collin at article19.org (Collin Kurre)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:16:09 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCecM_uH1VOMSn7abccu7QtcPhAV1duGJBrf1_XAtSZ5RxKhA@mail.gmail.com> <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org>

Hi Seetal,

Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.

Thanks for organizing,
Collin

--
Collin Kurre
ARTICLE 19




> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ginger 
> 
> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation  <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process. 
> 
> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those interested and following the panel are getting together informally to discuss our inputs into the consultation. 
> 
> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
> 
> Best
> Sheetal.
> 
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello all...
> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
> Best regards,
> Ginger
> ______________________________
> 
> 
> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
> 
> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
> DiploFoundation
> 
> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
> www.diplomacy.edu <http://www.diplomacy.edu/> 
> 
>  <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>
> 
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> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Sheetal Kumar
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  | 
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Fri Nov  9 07:20:37 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 12:20:37 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
In-Reply-To: <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org>
References: <CALCecM_uH1VOMSn7abccu7QtcPhAV1duGJBrf1_XAtSZ5RxKhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com> <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org>
Message-ID: <CAK78muRFs2O3uKBrCbrymPEkUjeWhDvrAMzQEJ+nMnZZJwA0Cw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Collin,

Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
are available on the Sunday to attend.

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

Best
Sheetal.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:

> Hi Seetal,
>
> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>
> Thanks for organizing,
> Collin
>
> --
> Collin Kurre
> ARTICLE 19
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ginger
>
> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
> process.
>
> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>
> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all...
>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>> Best regards,
>> Ginger
>>
>> *______________________________*
>>
>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>
>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>> DiploFoundation
>>
>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>> www.diplomacy.edu
>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From leena.romppainen at effi.org  Fri Nov  9 09:54:08 2018
From: leena.romppainen at effi.org (Leena Romppainen)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:54:08 +0200
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muRFs2O3uKBrCbrymPEkUjeWhDvrAMzQEJ+nMnZZJwA0Cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALCecM_uH1VOMSn7abccu7QtcPhAV1duGJBrf1_XAtSZ5RxKhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com>
 <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org>
 <CAK78muRFs2O3uKBrCbrymPEkUjeWhDvrAMzQEJ+nMnZZJwA0Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <85028cca-0c8e-be09-3449-f60dcc76958b@effi.org>

Hi Sheetal

A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.

Cheers,

Leena


On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
> Hi Collin,
>
> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues
> who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org
> <mailto:collin at article19.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Seetal,
>
>     Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from
>     ARTICLE 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested
>     in contributing to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>
>     Thanks for organizing,
>     Collin
>
>     --
>     Collin Kurre
>     ARTICLE 19
>
>
>
>
>>     On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar
>>     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Ginger
>>
>>     As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits'
>>     meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the
>>     Sunday afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the
>>     High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
>>     <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process.
>>
>>     I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups
>>     that organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back
>>     and those interested and following the panel are getting together
>>     informally to discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>
>>     If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you
>>     can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>
>>     Best
>>     Sheetal.
>>
>>     On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello all...
>>         Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I
>>         know it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed
>>         schedule, but I'm hoping we get together. I haven't seen
>>         anything, so please repeat the info if I missed it. Hoping to
>>         see many of you there!
>>         Best regards,
>>         Ginger
>>
>>         *______________________________*
>>
>>
>>         *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>
>>         IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>         DiploFoundation
>>
>>         WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>         www.diplomacy.edu <http://www.diplomacy.edu/> 
>>
>>         //<http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>//
>>
>>         *//*
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>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     *
>>     *
>>     *
>>     *
>>     *Sheetal Kumar*
>>     Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>     Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>     T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From 6.internet at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 10:00:04 2018
From: 6.internet at gmail.com (sivasubramanian muthusamy)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:30:04 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
In-Reply-To: <85028cca-0c8e-be09-3449-f60dcc76958b@effi.org>
References: <CALCecM_uH1VOMSn7abccu7QtcPhAV1duGJBrf1_XAtSZ5RxKhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com>
 <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org> <CAK78muRFs2O3uKBrCbrymPEkUjeWhDvrAMzQEJ+nMnZZJwA0Cw@mail.gmail.com>
 <85028cca-0c8e-be09-3449-f60dcc76958b@effi.org>
Message-ID: <CAKsgsGwT_br3_gDy7T5=op6W-ZGhb38m8SMcJbA6aLMOMnjQ4g@mail.gmail.com>

I wish to join if the schedule does not clash. Please include my name.

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M
Internet Society India Chennai

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 8:24 PM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org
wrote:

> Hi Sheetal
>
> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are flying
> in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not make it.
> Please send me the info and we'll see.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leena
>
>
> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>
> Hi Collin,
>
> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Seetal,
>>
>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>
>> Thanks for organizing,
>> Collin
>>
>> --
>> Collin Kurre
>> ARTICLE 19
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ginger
>>
>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
>> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>> process.
>>
>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>
>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
>> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all...
>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
>>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
>>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
>>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ginger
>>>
>>> *______________________________*
>>>
>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>
>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>> DiploFoundation
>>>
>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 10:00:18 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 10:00:18 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
In-Reply-To: <85028cca-0c8e-be09-3449-f60dcc76958b@effi.org>
References: <CALCecM_uH1VOMSn7abccu7QtcPhAV1duGJBrf1_XAtSZ5RxKhA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTq0nBQU-K9+A8jNHHVYmzU9WsAL5PP0TOKvoEyAGYRaA@mail.gmail.com>
 <A2754F19-00B9-4C3B-8103-FEBEC44C7104@article19.org> <CAK78muRFs2O3uKBrCbrymPEkUjeWhDvrAMzQEJ+nMnZZJwA0Cw@mail.gmail.com>
 <85028cca-0c8e-be09-3449-f60dcc76958b@effi.org>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvCe+D4mBD7=+g56v_vn66N6x2M0zTwDXht+JB9w2_P82Q@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.

We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these
events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure whether I
would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
They can be shorter and not a full day.

Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some of
us could not make it or thought they could not.



Farzaneh


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org>
wrote:

> Hi Sheetal
>
> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are flying
> in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not make it.
> Please send me the info and we'll see.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leena
>
>
> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>
> Hi Collin,
>
> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Seetal,
>>
>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>
>> Thanks for organizing,
>> Collin
>>
>> --
>> Collin Kurre
>> ARTICLE 19
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ginger
>>
>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
>> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>> process.
>>
>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>
>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
>> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all...
>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
>>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
>>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
>>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ginger
>>>
>>> *______________________________*
>>>
>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>
>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>> DiploFoundation
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
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From collin at article19.org  Fri Nov  9 10:54:36 2018
From: collin at article19.org (Collin Kurre)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:54:36 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.

Best,
Collin

--
Collin Kurre
ARTICLE 19




> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
> 
> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help. 
> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events. They can be shorter and not a full day. 
> 
> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some of us could not make it or thought they could not.  
> 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org <mailto:leena.romppainen at effi.org>> wrote:
> Hi Sheetal
> 
> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
> Cheers,
> 
> Leena
> 
> 
> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>> Hi Collin, 
>> 
>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>> 
>> Looking forward to seeing you soon! 
>> 
>> Best
>> Sheetal. 
>> 
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org <mailto:collin at article19.org>> wrote:
>> Hi Seetal,
>> 
>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>> 
>> Thanks for organizing,
>> Collin
>> 
>> --
>> Collin Kurre
>> ARTICLE 19
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ginger 
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation  <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process. 
>>> 
>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those interested and following the panel are getting together informally to discuss our inputs into the consultation. 
>>> 
>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hello all...
>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ginger
>>> ______________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
>>> 
>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>> DiploFoundation
>>> 
>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>> www.diplomacy.edu <http://www.diplomacy.edu/> 
>>> 
>>>  <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>
>>> 
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>>> -- 
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>>> 
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>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> Sheetal Kumar
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From mike.oghia at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 10:56:40 2018
From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:56:40 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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As do I

Best,
-Michael



On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:

> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>
> Best,
> Collin
>
> --
> Collin Kurre
> ARTICLE 19
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>
> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these
> events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure whether
> I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
> They can be shorter and not a full day.
>
> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some of
> us could not make it or thought they could not.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sheetal
>>
>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Leena
>>
>>
>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>
>> Hi Collin,
>>
>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
>> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>
>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>> Collin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Collin Kurre
>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ginger
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
>>> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>>> process.
>>>
>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>
>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
>>> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all...
>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
>>>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
>>>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
>>>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ginger
>>>>
>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>
>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>
>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>
>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>>
>> --
>>
>>
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>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From jeremy at malcolm.id.au  Thu Nov  1 13:33:10 2018
From: jeremy at malcolm.id.au (Jeremy Malcolm)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:33:10 -0700
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Regrettably this will be the first global IGF meeting that I have ever
missed. However, I am going to be represented by proxy by a colleague Dr
Craig Harper who is giving a Lightning Talk about the new organization
that I lead, Prostasia Foundation. We are the first child protection
organization that specifically focuses on the intersection between child
online protection and civil liberties, and are critical about placing
too much responsibility over child protection upon private Internet
platforms (while also supporting platforms to make better decisions):

https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/internet-platforms-sexual-content-and-child-protection

If anyone who is interested to attend this session could volunteer as
rapporteur/notetaker, I would be very grateful if you would let me know
off-list.


On 10/31/18 6:50 AM, Lucas Anjos wrote:
> Dear Sheetal,
>
> Us from IRIS (Institute for Research on Internet and Society - Brasil)
> would love to join!
>
> :)
>
> <http://irisbh.com.br/>
>
> *Lucas Anjos*
> Scientific Advisor | IRIS <http://irisbh.com.br/>
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-anjos/> | Twitter
> <http://www.twitter.com/me_misanthropic> | Lattes
> <http://lattes.cnpq.br/6223739836948293>
> +55 31 99592 0566
>
>
>
> Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 11:24, Gus Rossi <gus at publicknowledge.org
> <mailto:gus at publicknowledge.org>> escreveu:
>
>     Hi Sheetal,
>
>     PK is going to be in Paris for the IGF and we would be interested
>     in participating in such meeting.
>
>     Thanks!
>     ----
>
>     # 	# 	#
>     # 	• 	#
>     # 	# 	#
>
>     	
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>     Global Policy Director
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>
>     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:51 PM Sheetal Kumar
>     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Ginger
>
>         As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits'
>         meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the
>         Sunday afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into
>         the High Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
>         <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process.
>
>         I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the
>         groups that organise the civil society coordination meeting a
>         while back and those interested and following the panel are
>         getting together informally to discuss our inputs into the
>         consultation.
>
>         If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as
>         you can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>
>         Best
>         Sheetal.
>
>         On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com
>         <mailto:gpaque at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hello all...
>             Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in
>             Paris? I know it's difficult with no day zero and a
>             compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get together. I
>             haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>             missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>             Best regards,
>             Ginger
>
>             *______________________________*
>
>             *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>
>             IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>             DiploFoundation
>
>             WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>             www.diplomacy.edu <http://www.diplomacy.edu/> 
>
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>
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>         *
>         *
>         *
>         *Sheetal Kumar*
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Fri Nov  9 11:01:45 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:01:45 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Hi Sivasubramanian M

Nice to hear from you!

Here is the pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/o1OgjY2peJ1X-keep

If you can add your name to the list of attendees that would be great!
You'll find the location and details there too. We're meeting from 4-7 on
Sunday.

Safe travels to Paris and see you soon.

Do let me know should you have any questions

Best
Sheetal.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:00, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I wish to join if the schedule does not clash. Please include my name.
>
> Thank you
> Sivasubramanian M
> Internet Society India Chennai
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 8:24 PM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sheetal
>>
>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Leena
>>
>>
>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>
>> Hi Collin,
>>
>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
>> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>
>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>> Collin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Collin Kurre
>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ginger
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
>>> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>>> process.
>>>
>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>
>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
>>> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all...
>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
>>>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
>>>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
>>>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ginger
>>>>
>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>
>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>
>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>
>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>     bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>>
>>
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Fri Nov  9 11:05:23 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:05:23 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring more
opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of Rightscon,
would be good!

I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
meeting ahead of IGF.

It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can make
it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you on
Sunday.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:

> As do I
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
>> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>>
>> Best,
>> Collin
>>
>> --
>> Collin Kurre
>> ARTICLE 19
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
>> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>>
>> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
>> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these
>> events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure
>> whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
>> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
>> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
>> They can be shorter and not a full day.
>>
>> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some
>> of us could not make it or thought they could not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <
>> leena.romppainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sheetal
>>>
>>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Leena
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Collin,
>>>
>>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues
>>> who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>>
>>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>>>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>>>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>>> Collin
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ginger
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>>>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>>>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
>>>> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>>
>>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can
>>>> as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all...
>>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know
>>>>> it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping
>>>>> we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>>>>> missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Ginger
>>>>>
>>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>>
>>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>>
>>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
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>>>
>>>
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From jeremy at malcolm.id.au  Fri Nov  9 11:54:25 2018
From: jeremy at malcolm.id.au (Jeremy Malcolm)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 08:54:25 -0800
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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On 11/9/18 7:00 AM, farzaneh badii wrote:

> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS
> gathering this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>
> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did
> not happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of
> these events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not
> sure whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut
> short didn't help. 
> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon
> or similar events. They can be shorter and not a full day. 
>
> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because
> some of us could not make it or thought they could not. 

To add to this, the bestbits.net domain name and website is available
for use for coordination. It has been paid for for five years but is
lying idle, and just needs someone else to take it up again. It won't be
me because I have moved on to focus on my new nonprofit, Prostasia
Foundation, but I am happy to take a limited role in transferring
control to others. At one point there was a new Best Bits steering
committee that had planned to revitalize it, but this didn't come to
pass and their term has now lapsed.

-- 
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From twetzling at stiftung-nv.de  Fri Nov  9 12:05:47 2018
From: twetzling at stiftung-nv.de (Thorsten Wetzling I Stiftung Neue Verantwortung)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 18:05:47 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] [Publication]  Upping the Ante on Bulk Surveillance: An
 International Compendium of Good Legal Safeguards and Oversight Innovations
Message-ID: <166f96fd31e.10bd5002f157207.3553033117486991794@stiftung-nv.de>

Maybe of interest to some of you? 
Kind regards, 
Thorsten and Kilian

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One may, therefore, assume that the practice of bulk communications surveillance is here to stay. If that is the case, then it is high time to subject national legal frameworks and their corresponding oversight systems to a comparative review and to identify good practices. In an attempt to fill a gap, Kilian Vieth and I have compared legal safeguards and oversight practices in 13 different democracies. Our compendium (PDF),

<https://www.stiftung-nv.de/en/publication/upping-ante-bulk-surveillance-international-compendium-good-legal-safeguards-and>

commissioned by the Heinrich Böll Foundation, and published yesterday, features 64 promising examples, that, we believe, increase the legitimacy and effectiveness of bulk surveillance governance.

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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 13:24:18 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:24:18 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Hey folks,

Happy to discuss having this on Day 0-1 or even 0 before *RightsCon, as
suggested by some of you below. *Many of you are already engaged in various
things that usually happen on Day 0 of RC, so I would be cautious here.

Should we set a meeting during IGF or a call after IGF to sync on that?
Would would like to join the initial brainstorming? This community would
also need to figure out funding.

And as many of you know, we have opened the call for proposals, with some
new formats there, too. I am amazed to see we received almost 50 in just a
couple of days! Wow! So much energy.

If you have seen it yet, check the call here.
https://www.rightscon.org/rightscon-tunis-call-for-proposals/

Hugs,

Carolina

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On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:05 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring more
> opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of Rightscon,
> would be good!
>
> I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
> discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
> points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
> Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
> traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
> meeting ahead of IGF.
>
> It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can
> make it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you
> on Sunday.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As do I
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
>>> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Collin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Collin Kurre
>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
>>> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>>>
>>> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
>>> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these
>>> events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure
>>> whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
>>> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
>>> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
>>> They can be shorter and not a full day.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some
>>> of us could not make it or thought they could not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <
>>> leena.romppainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sheetal
>>>>
>>>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>>>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>>>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Leena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Collin,
>>>>
>>>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues
>>>> who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
>>>>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
>>>>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>>>> Collin
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ginger
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
>>>>> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
>>>>> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on
>>>>> Digital Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can
>>>>> as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all...
>>>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know
>>>>>> it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping
>>>>>> we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>>>>>> missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Ginger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>>
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> --
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>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
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> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From raquino at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 14:04:41 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 20:04:41 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Hi

We can try to get a bilateral meeting room but may be small

There is also the Digital Grassroots booth, a good meetup point

Em sex, 9 de nov de 2018 19:24, Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com
escreveu:

> Hey folks,
>
> Happy to discuss having this on Day 0-1 or even 0 before *RightsCon, as
> suggested by some of you below. *Many of you are already engaged in
> various things that usually happen on Day 0 of RC, so I would be cautious
> here.
>
> Should we set a meeting during IGF or a call after IGF to sync on that?
> Would would like to join the initial brainstorming? This community would
> also need to figure out funding.
>
> And as many of you know, we have opened the call for proposals, with some
> new formats there, too. I am amazed to see we received almost 50 in just a
> couple of days! Wow! So much energy.
>
> If you have seen it yet, check the call here.
> https://www.rightscon.org/rightscon-tunis-call-for-proposals/
>
> Hugs,
>
> Carolina
>
> *Carolina Rossini*
> RightsCon Director | rightscon.org <http://www.rightscon.org/>
> Access Now | *accessnow.org <http://accessnow.org/>*
> +1 6176979389 <+1%206176979389>
> @carolinarossini
>
> 0xE1F9 6D5E BAE8 4A93
>
> * *Join* the RightsCon <https://www.rightscon.org/> community - get
> updates via the RightsCon Rundown <https://www.rightscon.org/rundown/>
> * *Subscribe* to the Access Now Express
> <https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up>, our weekly newsletter on
> digital rights
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:05 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring more
>> opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of Rightscon,
>> would be good!
>>
>> I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
>> discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
>> points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
>> Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
>> traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
>> meeting ahead of IGF.
>>
>> It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can
>> make it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you
>> on Sunday.
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As do I
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
>>>> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Collin
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
>>>> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>>>>
>>>> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
>>>> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of
>>>> these events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not
>>>> sure whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't
>>>>  help.
>>>> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
>>>> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
>>>> They can be shorter and not a full day.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some
>>>> of us could not make it or thought they could not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <
>>>> leena.romppainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sheetal
>>>>>
>>>>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>>>>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>>>>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Leena
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Collin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues
>>>>> who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE
>>>>>> 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing
>>>>>> to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>>>>> Collin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ginger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits'
>>>>>> meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday
>>>>>> afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High
>>>>>> Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
>>>>>> <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>>>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>>>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>>>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can
>>>>>> as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all...
>>>>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know
>>>>>>> it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping
>>>>>>> we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>>>>>>> missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Ginger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>     bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>     http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>
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>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>
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>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Nov  9 15:16:09 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:16:09 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Thanks Renata. Good idea
. Perhaps during lunch time? IGP has a booth too but booths look rather
small this time at igf

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:10 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> We can try to get a bilateral meeting room but may be small
>
> There is also the Digital Grassroots booth, a good meetup point
>
> Em sex, 9 de nov de 2018 19:24, Carolina Rossini <
> carolina.rossini at gmail.com escreveu:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Happy to discuss having this on Day 0-1 or even 0 before *RightsCon, as
>> suggested by some of you below. *Many of you are already engaged in
>> various things that usually happen on Day 0 of RC, so I would be cautious
>> here.
>>
>> Should we set a meeting during IGF or a call after IGF to sync on that?
>> Would would like to join the initial brainstorming? This community would
>> also need to figure out funding.
>>
>> And as many of you know, we have opened the call for proposals, with some
>> new formats there, too. I am amazed to see we received almost 50 in just a
>> couple of days! Wow! So much energy.
>>
>> If you have seen it yet, check the call here.
>> https://www.rightscon.org/rightscon-tunis-call-for-proposals/
>>
>> Hugs,
>>
>> Carolina
>>
>> *Carolina Rossini*
>> RightsCon Director | rightscon.org <http://www.rightscon.org/>
>> Access Now | *accessnow.org <http://accessnow.org/>*
>> +1 6176979389 <+1%206176979389>
>> @carolinarossini
>>
>> 0xE1F9 6D5E BAE8 4A93
>>
>> * *Join* the RightsCon <https://www.rightscon.org/> community - get
>> updates via the RightsCon Rundown <https://www.rightscon.org/rundown/>
>> * *Subscribe* to the Access Now Express
>> <https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up>, our weekly newsletter on
>> digital rights
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:05 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring
>>> more opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of
>>> Rightscon, would be good!
>>>
>>> I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
>>> discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
>>> points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
>>> Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
>>> traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
>>> meeting ahead of IGF.
>>>
>>> It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can
>>> make it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you
>>> on Sunday.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As do I
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
>>>>> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Collin
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS
>>>>> gathering this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did
>>>>> not happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of
>>>>> these events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not
>>>>> sure whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't
>>>>>  help.
>>>>> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we
>>>>> can shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or
>>>>> similar events. They can be shorter and not a full day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because
>>>>> some of us could not make it or thought they could not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <
>>>>> leena.romppainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sheetal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>>>>>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>>>>>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Collin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues
>>>>>> who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE
>>>>>>> 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing
>>>>>>> to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>>>>>> Collin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ginger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits'
>>>>>>> meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday
>>>>>>> afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High
>>>>>>> Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
>>>>>>> <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
>>>>>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>>>>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>>>>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you
>>>>>>> can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all...
>>>>>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know
>>>>>>>> it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping
>>>>>>>> we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>>>>>>>> missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Ginger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>>>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
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>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>> --
>>
>> *Carolina Rossini *
>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
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From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:05:49 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Speaking of IGF

Entry via Av de Suffren 125

Place de Fontenoy for VIPs

How's badging at PPF?


Em sex, 9 de nov de 2018 21:16, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
escreveu:

> Thanks Renata. Good idea
> . Perhaps during lunch time? IGP has a booth too but booths look rather
> small this time at igf
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:10 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> We can try to get a bilateral meeting room but may be small
>>
>> There is also the Digital Grassroots booth, a good meetup point
>>
>> Em sex, 9 de nov de 2018 19:24, Carolina Rossini <
>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com escreveu:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Happy to discuss having this on Day 0-1 or even 0 before *RightsCon, as
>>> suggested by some of you below. *Many of you are already engaged in
>>> various things that usually happen on Day 0 of RC, so I would be cautious
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Should we set a meeting during IGF or a call after IGF to sync on that?
>>> Would would like to join the initial brainstorming? This community would
>>> also need to figure out funding.
>>>
>>> And as many of you know, we have opened the call for proposals, with
>>> some new formats there, too. I am amazed to see we received almost 50 in
>>> just a couple of days! Wow! So much energy.
>>>
>>> If you have seen it yet, check the call here.
>>> https://www.rightscon.org/rightscon-tunis-call-for-proposals/
>>>
>>> Hugs,
>>>
>>> Carolina
>>>
>>> *Carolina Rossini*
>>> RightsCon Director | rightscon.org <http://www.rightscon.org/>
>>> Access Now | *accessnow.org <http://accessnow.org/>*
>>> +1 6176979389 <+1%206176979389>
>>> @carolinarossini
>>>
>>> 0xE1F9 6D5E BAE8 4A93
>>>
>>> * *Join* the RightsCon <https://www.rightscon.org/> community - get
>>> updates via the RightsCon Rundown <https://www.rightscon.org/rundown/>
>>> * *Subscribe* to the Access Now Express
>>> <https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up>, our weekly newsletter on
>>> digital rights
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:05 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring
>>>> more opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of
>>>> Rightscon, would be good!
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
>>>> discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
>>>> points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
>>>> Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
>>>> traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
>>>> meeting ahead of IGF.
>>>>
>>>> It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can
>>>> make it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you
>>>> on Sunday.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As do I
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
>>>>>> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Collin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS
>>>>>> gathering this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did
>>>>>> not happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of
>>>>>> these events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not
>>>>>> sure whether I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't
>>>>>>  help.
>>>>>> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we
>>>>>> can shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or
>>>>>> similar events. They can be shorter and not a full day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because
>>>>>> some of us could not make it or thought they could not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <
>>>>>> leena.romppainen at effi.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sheetal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are
>>>>>>> flying in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not
>>>>>>> make it. Please send me the info and we'll see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Collin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in
>>>>>>> colleagues who are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Seetal,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE
>>>>>>>> 19 present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing
>>>>>>>> to a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for organizing,
>>>>>>>> Collin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Collin Kurre
>>>>>>>> ARTICLE 19
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ginger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits'
>>>>>>>> meeting this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday
>>>>>>>> afternoon (time & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High
>>>>>>>> Level Panel on Digital Cooperation
>>>>>>>> <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC) process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups
>>>>>>>> that organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
>>>>>>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
>>>>>>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you
>>>>>>>> can as I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all...
>>>>>>>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know
>>>>>>>>> it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping
>>>>>>>>> we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I
>>>>>>>>> missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Ginger
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *______________________________*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>>>>>>>> DiploFoundation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>>>>>>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>>>>>>> * <http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses>*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>>     bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>>>>     http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2
>>>>>>> 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>     bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
>>>> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
>>>> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Carolina Rossini *
>>> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
>>> PGP ID:  0xEC81015C
>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
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> Farzaneh
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From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:06:24 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing
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As Steering Committee of BestBits (though on health leave since April), I
can help forward your choice

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 1:41 PM
Subject: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing

Dear CS MAG members,

Could I kindly ask you to suggest a Civil Society Youth speaker for the
closing ceremony (not a professional youth person).

I would be grateful if you could send me a name by Monday Evening.

Best regards

Chengetai
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 12:07:27 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:07:27 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing
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I'm also letting you know of my suggestion

"I'd like to suggest 1 name for the opening as time is upon us

Viviane Vinagre

vivianegvinagre at gmail.com

A law student in her 20s who attended IGF2015 in her city, João
Pessoa, Paraíba, Brazil. Ever since then Viviane has engaged with the
community and changed her life altogether. She has participated in the
Brazil IGF and in parallel events, involved herself in internet policy
issues relative to her region such as the dot-Amazon debate, and just
last year she did an internship in Canada researching gender and
internet governance. Got to be a speaker of her own session just like
the PM of Canada and other high-level panelists at the International
Gender Forum.

She is part of Youth IGF Brazil, YCIG, LACNIC/LACNOG participant, and
follows the activities of all the 5 groups of Civil Society part ot
the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG - Bestbits, IGC, APC, NCSG,
JustNet Coalition). She is also an enrolled member of the majority of
these groups.

I believe it is important to keep alive the spirit of engaging with
the IGF and how that can be a life-changer.

I also think it would be nice to involve CSCG on choosing the closing
speaker, if no objection by MAG members from CS"

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 6:06 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
wrote:

> As Steering Committee of BestBits (though on health leave since April), I
> can help forward your choice
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>
> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 1:41 PM
> Subject: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing
>
> Dear CS MAG members,
>
> Could I kindly ask you to suggest a Civil Society Youth speaker for the
> closing ceremony (not a professional youth person).
>
> I would be grateful if you could send me a name by Monday Evening.
>
> Best regards
>
> Chengetai
>
>
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From LB at lucabelli.net  Thu Nov  1 15:53:23 2018
From: LB at lucabelli.net (LB at lucabelli.net)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:53:23 -0700
Subject: [bestbits] CyberBRICS Fellowship Programme
Message-ID: <20181101125323.2700328f4bbfc197480209526f2a1375.dafcacecf7.mailapi@email07.godaddy.com>

 Dear colleagues, (apologies for cross-posting) 
  
 It is a great pleasure to announce the first CyberBRICS Fellowship Programme to be hosted at FGV Law School, Rio de Janeiro. 
  
 The programme will offer five remunerated fellowships, from February to July 2019, at FGV DIREITO RIO, to support selected scholars having relevant experience in data protection and cybersecurity frameworks in at least one of the BRICS countries.
  
 The full Call for Applications is available at  https://internet-governance.fgv.br/call-applications-cyberbrics-fellowship-programme  
  
 The CyberBRICS Project is the result of 2 years of consultations with a wide range of  partners and stakeholders, including  a dedicated IGF workshop, in 2017; consultations with the Brazilian Foreign Affairs Ministry, the China International Publishing Group and the Open Society Foundations; and extensive exchanges with CyberBRICS partners.*
  
 The CyberBRICS fellows will be selected by a commission formed by Prof Luca Belli, from FGV DIREITO RIO (Brazil), Prof Alexey Ivanov, from the Higher School of Economics (Russia), Ms Elonnai Hickok, from the Centre for Internet and Society (India), Prof Shen Yi, from Fudan University (China), and Prof Alison Gillwald, from the Nelson Mandela School of Public Governance University of Cape Town (South Africa).
  
 Over a six month period, selected fellows will receive a monthly salary comprised between USD 2.200 and 2.500 (see item 5 of the Call) and will be expected to be based in Rio de Janeiro, where they will have a dedicated office within the FGV main building, in 190 praia de Botafogo.  
  
 Besides the fellowship programme, we are also building a Network of CyberBRICS Associated Scholars, allowing scholars interested in CyberBRICS activities and having relevant experience in the fields explored by the project to cooperate with us. Should you be interested in this latter opportunity, please feel free to send me a personal email.
   
 Please feel free to share this message thought your networks.
 Kind regards 
 Luca
 
 *The CyberBRICS Project was developed thanks to inputs from the Higher School of Economics and the Center for New Media and Society (Russia); the Centre for Internet and Society (India); the University of Hong Kong and the Fudan University (China); and Research ICT Africa and the University of Cape Town (South Africa). 
  
  
     
   Luca Belli, PhD
 Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation
 +55 21 3799 5763 t at 1lucabelli
 Praia de Botafogo, 190 13&ordm; andar
 Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro, RJ - CEP: 22250-900
  luca.belli at fgv.br
 internet-governance.fgv.br 
       
  
 
 
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 12:18:13 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:18:13 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] Meeting with USG Liu of UNDESA
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR07MB35021E2F71DFE3EDB4F46FEB9DC70@VI1PR07MB3502.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi

Please DM any comment you would like to convey

Should there be a BB position, share here to see if SC members agree

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 12:48 PM
Subject: [IGFmaglist] Meeting with USG Liu of UNDESA
To: MAG-public <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>


Dear All,

We will have a MAG meeting at 1:30 -2:30pm on 12 November in room 4.

The USG will be giving out certificates of appreciation to the outgoing MAG
members during this meeting.
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From ayden at ferdeline.com  Sat Nov 10 12:19:08 2018
From: ayden at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 17:19:08 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018
 closing
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Hi Renata,

I'd like to express my interest in speaking.

Many thanks,
Ayden Férdeline

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:06, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:

> As Steering Committee of BestBits (though on health leave since April), I can help forward your choice
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>
> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 1:41 PM
> Subject: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing
>
> Dear CS MAG members,
>
> Could I kindly ask you to suggest a Civil Society Youth speaker for the closing ceremony (not a professional youth person).
>
> I would be grateful if you could send me a name by Monday Evening.
>
> Best regards
>
> Chengetai
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 12:23:49 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 18:23:49 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018
 closing
In-Reply-To: <gcAof_I7X6OTxTMLWE9nM7SqbsQ9yDqGhx6veYgUYXDz9fohE1Nd5bPJncoIA0eNW8NO0kgZ2oNEmnCxDAgfnTSftRrqA37zppv-N6ocerI=@ferdeline.com>
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Fwded


On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 6:19 PM Ayden Férdeline <ayden at ferdeline.com wrote:

> Hi Renata,
>
> I'd like to express my interest in speaking.
>
> Many thanks,
> Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:06, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As Steering Committee of BestBits (though on health leave since April), I
> can help forward your choice
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Chengetai Masango* <chengetai.masango at un.org>
> Date: Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 1:41 PM
> Subject: Civil Society Youth speaker for the IGF2018 closing
>
>
> Dear CS MAG members,
>
> Could I kindly ask you to suggest a Civil Society Youth speaker for the
> closing ceremony (not a professional youth person).
>
> I would be grateful if you could send me a name by Monday Evening.
>
> Best regards
>
> Chengetai
>
>
>
>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Nov 10 20:26:54 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 02:26:54 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups
Message-ID: <CAMokdMwU3PEWNzZYSrSSNa-eAg5SwsY6zjqy9ZaYjj3aWAcEYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups

Bilateral rooms are small so please RSVP and wait confirmation

Room: S.376 - UNESCO

Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018

RSVP
https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=MnJvZDY5M29nZ280MTNjcjk0djlkb3BnOHYgcmFxdWlub0Bt&tmsrc=raquino%40gmail.com

From raquino at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 06:12:17 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:12:17 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMwU3PEWNzZYSrSSNa-eAg5SwsY6zjqy9ZaYjj3aWAcEYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMokdMyxn1eKTE0G0G1+kigX_yChyR=rGoC0bCb-c4GwGrZS6A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all

If the calendar link doesn't allow RSVP-ing please just dm raquino at gmail.com

Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 02:26, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
escreveu:

> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>
> Bilateral rooms are small so please RSVP and wait confirmation
>
> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>
> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>
> RSVP
>
> https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=MnJvZDY5M29nZ280MTNjcjk0djlkb3BnOHYgcmFxdWlub0Bt&tmsrc=raquino%40gmail.com
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From joaocbrant at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 06:16:11 2018
From: joaocbrant at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_Brant?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:16:11 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMyxn1eKTE0G0G1+kigX_yChyR=rGoC0bCb-c4GwGrZS6A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAP40hFG9P+1igHPARYUS0KPXTp+Fd4Y8SDjRgvJsv7g2YRV1rg@mail.gmail.com>

What time will that be, Renata?

Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 12:12, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
escreveu:

> Dear all
>
> If the calendar link doesn't allow RSVP-ing please just dm
> raquino at gmail.com
>
> Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 02:26, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>
>> Bilateral rooms are small so please RSVP and wait confirmation
>>
>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>
>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>
>> RSVP
>>
>> https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=MnJvZDY5M29nZ280MTNjcjk0djlkb3BnOHYgcmFxdWlub0Bt&tmsrc=raquino%40gmail.com
>>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 06:24:17 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:24:17 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups
In-Reply-To: <CAP40hFG9P+1igHPARYUS0KPXTp+Fd4Y8SDjRgvJsv7g2YRV1rg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMokdMyCwzqghdOrMnC_-24KmnM+96XnveEYyA+N_8=5D+CoeA@mail.gmail.com>

Meeting time is

12nov

7:30pm-8:30pm

Sorry for not including that

Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 12:16, João Brant <joaocbrant at gmail.com escreveu:

> What time will that be, Renata?
>
> Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 12:12, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
> escreveu:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> If the calendar link doesn't allow RSVP-ing please just dm
>> raquino at gmail.com
>>
>> Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 02:26, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>>
>>> Bilateral rooms are small so please RSVP and wait confirmation
>>>
>>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>>
>>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>>
>>> RSVP
>>>
>>> https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=MnJvZDY5M29nZ280MTNjcjk0djlkb3BnOHYgcmFxdWlub0Bt&tmsrc=raquino%40gmail.com
>>>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 11:15:57 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:15:57 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Thank you Esther it is good to know CS id welcome to meetups at the booth

Thanks Digra team!

Em dom, 11 de nov de 2018 16:58, Esther Mwema <
esther.m at digitalgrassroots.org escreveu:

> This is fantastic. You are all welcome to Digital Grassroots booth if you
> need a small place to meet. CC'd Noha who is on location.
>
>
> ---- On Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:04:41 +0200 *Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com <raquino at gmail.com>>* wrote ----
>
> Hi
>
> We can try to get a bilateral meeting room but may be small
>
> There is also the Digital Grassroots booth, a good meetup point
>
> Em sex, 9 de nov de 2018 19:24, Carolina Rossini <
> carolina.rossini at gmail.com escreveu:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Happy to discuss having this on Day 0-1 or even 0 before *RightsCon, as
> suggested by some of you below. *Many of you are already engaged in
> various things that usually happen on Day 0 of RC, so I would be cautious
> here.
>
> Should we set a meeting during IGF or a call after IGF to sync on that?
> Would would like to join the initial brainstorming? This community would
> also need to figure out funding.
>
> And as many of you know, we have opened the call for proposals, with some
> new formats there, too. I am amazed to see we received almost 50 in just a
> couple of days! Wow! So much energy.
>
> If you have seen it yet, check the call here.
> https://www.rightscon.org/rightscon-tunis-call-for-proposals/
>
> Hugs,
>
> Carolina
>
> *Carolina Rossini*
> RightsCon Director | rightscon.org <http://www.rightscon.org/>
> Access Now | *accessnow.org <http://accessnow.org/>*
> +1 6176979389
> @carolinarossini
>
> 0xE1F9 6D5E BAE8 4A93
>
> * *Join* the RightsCon <https://www.rightscon.org/> community - get
> updates via the RightsCon Rundown <https://www.rightscon.org/rundown/>
> * *Subscribe* to the Access Now Express
> <https://www.accessnow.org/campaign/#sign-up>, our weekly newsletter on
> digital rights
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 5:05 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for bringing this up Farzaneh, and for the insight. Exploring more
> opportunities for civil society coordination, including ahead of Rightscon,
> would be good!
>
> I just wanted to clarify that the meeting on Sunday which has been
> discussed on this thread is a half day evening event focused on identifying
> points of commonality for input into the UN Secretary General's High Level
> Panel on Digital Cooperation. As such, it won't be following the format
> traditionally followed for the 'Bestbits' or 'civil society coordination'
> meeting ahead of IGF.
>
> It's great that there's been so much interest in it! For those who can
> make it and have confirmed their attendance, we look forward to seeing you
> on Sunday.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 15:57, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As do I
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:54 PM Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that insight, Farzaneh. I support exploring the idea of
> organizing a civil society pre-event ahead of RightsCon.
>
> Best,
> Collin
>
> --
> Collin Kurre
> ARTICLE 19
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering
> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>
> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not
> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these
> events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure whether
> I would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can
> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar events.
> They can be shorter and not a full day.
>
> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some of
> us could not make it or thought they could not.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sheetal
>
> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are flying
> in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not make it.
> Please send me the info and we'll see.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leena
>
>
> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>
> Hi Collin,
>
> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who
> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Seetal,
>
> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19
> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to
> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>
> Thanks for organizing,
> Collin
>
> --
> Collin Kurre
>
> ARTICLE 19
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ginger
>
> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting
> this year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time
> & location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital
> Cooperation <http://www.un.org/en/digital-cooperation-panel/>(HLPDC)
> process.
>
> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that
> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those
> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to
> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>
> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as
> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all...
> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's
> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get
> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed
> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
> Best regards,
> Ginger
>
> *______________________________*
>
> *Ginger (Virginia) Paque*
>
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> DiploFoundation
>
> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
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>
>
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> --
>
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
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> --
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>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
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From jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org  Sun Nov 11 21:57:53 2018
From: jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?B?SmVhbiBGLiBRdcOpcmFsdA==?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 03:57:53 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Good points there.

I'd support a pre-event for RightsCon.

How i was myself unable to make it (I'm still on my way to Paris) i 
appreciate the effort on organizing the meeting.

Cheers
Jean

On November 9, 2018 16:01:01 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to tell you why we are not having an organized CS gathering 
> this year so that you can prevent it from happening next year.
>
>
> We used to have a civil society day arranged before the IGF. It did not 
> happen this time because Jeremy (the initiator and cornerstone of these 
> events)decided not to participate in this year and I was not sure whether I 
> would make it either. Also IGF being cut short didn't help.
>
> We need a better approach for civil society pre-events. Perhaps we can 
> shift the civil society meeting to pre-events for RightsCon or similar 
> events. They can be shorter and not a full day.
>
>
> Anyhow, I think we should not drop the ball like this year because some of 
> us could not make it or thought they could not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Leena Romppainen <leena.romppainen at effi.org> 
> wrote:
> Hi Sheetal
> A group from Electronic Frontier Finland will be around, but we are flying 
> in on Sunday so depending on time and place we might or might not make it. 
> Please send me the info and we'll see.
> Cheers,
> Leena
>
> On 09/11/2018 14.20, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>> Hi Collin,
>>
>>
>>
>> Great! I'll add you to the thread and then you can loop in colleagues who 
>> are available on the Sunday to attend.
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you soon!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 at 12:16, Collin Kurre <collin at article19.org> wrote:
>> Hi Seetal,
>>
>> Chiming in to say that there will be quite a few folks from ARTICLE 19 
>> present in Paris, and we would definitely be interested in contributing to 
>> a civil society coordination meeting on Sunday.
>>
>> Thanks for organizing,
>> Collin
>>
>> --
>> Collin Kurre
>>
>> ARTICLE 19
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ginger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there isn't a joint civil society/'Bestbits' meeting this 
>>> year. However, a few of us are gathering on the Sunday afternoon (time & 
>>> location TBC) to discuss inputs into the High Level Panel on Digital 
>>> Cooperation (HLPDC) process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had floated focusing the meeting on the HLPDC with the groups that 
>>> organise the civil society coordination meeting a while back and those 
>>> interested and following the panel are getting together informally to 
>>> discuss our inputs into the consultation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If that's of interest to anyone please let me know as soon as you can as 
>>> I'll confirm the room sometime this week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 19:06, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all...
>>> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's 
>>> difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get 
>>> together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed 
>>> it. Hoping to see many of you there!
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ginger
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
>>>
>>> IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
>>> DiploFoundation
>>>
>>> WMO | 7bis, Avenue de la Paix | 1202 Geneva - Switzerland
>>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sheetal Kumar
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sheetal Kumar
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 11 23:20:03 2018
From: amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com (Amrita)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:50:03 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] Read about  the IG Events & Policy developments in
 October, 2018 from the Indian Perspective
Message-ID: <010001d47a3e$ffb24060$ff16c120$@com>

Hi,

 

Apologies for cross posting.

 

For those who may be interested, read the CCAOI October Newsletter for
curated updates on policies and events related to IG  from the Indian
perspective:

http://www.ccaoi.in/UI/links/fwnewsletter/CCAOI%20Newsletter%20October%20201
8.pdf

 

 

Regards,

 

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From gpaque at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 13:38:54 2018
From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:38:54 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] HLP-DC Online update Monday November 5th
Message-ID: <CALCecM9gkwwNxi-8BEe5hkbq8tWcxDWaeCBn8JTTL=qVLOPTjg@mail.gmail.com>

*In case you would like to follow the HLP-DC updates, with an opportunity
to comment or ask questions:*

The UN Secretary-General’s High-level Panel on Digital Cooperation
Secretariat will host a “First Monday Meeting” on 5 November 2018 to
provide an update from the past month, and an overview of upcoming
activities.

In addition, you are invited to join an interactive discussion around the
topic in focus for this month: digital cooperation in inclusive development
and capacity building.

This month’s meeting will be addressed by Dr. Jovan Kurbalija, Co-Executive
Director, and Anoush Tatevossian, Head of Communications, of the
Secretariat.

Register to join the First Monday meeting on 5 November 2018, at 9am EST /
3pm CET / 10pm CST:
https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/onstage/g.php?MTID=e99a92bbf28283eb3f30bf2674fbc1f1f

For more information about the High-level Panel on Digital Cooperation,
visit: www.digitalcooperation.org


HLP-DC Update Monday November 5th

*______________________________*

*Ginger (Virginia) Paque*

IG and E-diplomacy Programmes | Research Associate
DiploFoundation

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From maryant.fernandez-perez at edri.org  Mon Nov 12 10:18:28 2018
From: maryant.fernandez-perez at edri.org (Maryant Fernandez Perez)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:18:28 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Job alert: EDRi is hiring a Senior Policy Advisor
Message-ID: <20c6bdda-e3ae-66b6-a3fa-500d17dff36a@edri.org>

(apologies for cross-posting)

European Digital Rights (EDRi) is looking for a talented and dedicated
Senior Policy Advisor to join EDRi's team in Brussels. This is a unique
opportunity to be part of a growing and well-respected NGO that is
making a real difference in the defence and promotion of online rights
and freedoms in Europe and beyond. The deadline to apply is 2 December
2018.

This full-time, permanent position is to be filled as soon as possible.

We would appreciate if you could share this job alert as widely as possible.
You can find more details at
https://edri.org/job-alert-edri-is-looking-for-a-senior-policy-advisor/

Best,
Maryant

-- 
Maryant Fernandez Perez 
Senior Policy Advisor
European Digital Rights
https://edri.org
@edri | @maryantfp
Tel: +3222742570
12 Rue Belliard, 1040 Brussels
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From sylvia at apnic.net  Mon Nov 12 10:39:32 2018
From: sylvia at apnic.net (Sylvia Cadena)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 15:39:32 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Seed Alliance Awards invitation / Nov 13 13:30 salle IX,
 please join us!
Message-ID: <CB57C1DE-DE75-4DCB-8603-B6A33DD09401@apnic.net>

Dear colleagues,

Hope you can join us tomorrow at Salle IX at 13:30 for the Seed Alliance Awards. The invitation is attached. There will be wine and sweet canapes afterwards.

FRIDA, FIRE and ISIF Asia are the grant and awards programs for the Regional Internet Registries (LACNIC, AFRINIC and APNIC), supporting Internet for Development across the Global South.

The winners on Community Networks and Gender Empowerment projects from Latin America and the Caribbean, Africa and Asia Pacific will be presented at the ceremony.

The Gender Empowerment awards will be presented by our funding partner IDRC and the Community Networks awards will be presented by our funding partner Internet Society.

Warm regards,

Sylvia

---------

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From raquino at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 11:16:44 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:16:44 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30
 IGF Paris
Message-ID: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>

Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris

Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups

Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places

Room: S.376 - UNESCO

7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)

Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018

@renataaquino
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Mon Nov 12 12:17:38 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 17:17:38 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK78muTgb7Vnj1A73S1FPgoMs-J=q6H2euHVUk83=pfEwqAYxw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Renata for organising! I'll be there and will try my best to
survive until 8:30 :)

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 16:17, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>
> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>
> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>
> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>
> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>
> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>
> @renataaquino
>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 13:41:58 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:41:58 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muTgb7Vnj1A73S1FPgoMs-J=q6H2euHVUk83=pfEwqAYxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTgb7Vnj1A73S1FPgoMs-J=q6H2euHVUk83=pfEwqAYxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMokdMz+07B9+q1S5vFz0U5akE5PTTFXW7BVuF_9aNDh96W8xw@mail.gmail.com>

Survival is a challenge
We are transmitting already
http://twitter.com/renataaquino

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:17 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Renata for organising! I'll be there and will try my best to survive until 8:30 :)
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 16:17, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>>
>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>
>> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>>
>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>
>> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>>
>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>
>> @renataaquino
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
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>
> --
>
>
> Sheetal Kumar
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603 DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>

From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 17:51:43 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 23:51:43 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMz+07B9+q1S5vFz0U5akE5PTTFXW7BVuF_9aNDh96W8xw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK78muTgb7Vnj1A73S1FPgoMs-J=q6H2euHVUk83=pfEwqAYxw@mail.gmail.com> <CAMokdMz+07B9+q1S5vFz0U5akE5PTTFXW7BVuF_9aNDh96W8xw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvDLUVGFDtgfdjis+EU-0epFZ5Hi5RXiDKh9rvaX3TSBFw@mail.gmail.com>

Renata
Sorry I can't make it at that time. I will catch up with the group at
another time.

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 7:42 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Survival is a challenge
> We are transmitting already
> http://twitter.com/renataaquino
>
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:17 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Renata for organising! I'll be there and will try my best to
> survive until 8:30 :)
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 16:17, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
> >>
> >> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
> >> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
> >>
> >> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
> >>
> >> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
> >>
> >> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
> >>
> >> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
> >>
> >> @renataaquino
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Sheetal Kumar
> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
> > T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
> > PGP ID: E592EFBBEAB1CF31  | PGP Fingerprint: F5D5 114D 173B E9E2 0603
> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
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From jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org  Tue Nov 13 03:04:13 2018
From: jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?B?SmVhbiBGLiBRdcOpcmFsdA==?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:04:13 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
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Hi everyone.

Following up what we discussed last night about engaging Youth IGF, could 
we designate someone per area/region/continent? The task would be to ease 
up a bit the onboarding.

I could take care of linking with Agita from Indonesia whom, for all i 
know, kinda represents ASEAN.

Cheers.



On November 12, 2018 17:17:09 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>
>
> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>
> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>
> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>
>
> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>
> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>
>
> @renataaquino
>
>
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From sylvia at apnic.net  Tue Nov 13 03:53:37 2018
From: sylvia at apnic.net (Sylvia Cadena)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:53:37 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Seed Alliance Awards invitation / Nov 13 13:30 salle
 IX, please join us!
In-Reply-To: <CB57C1DE-DE75-4DCB-8603-B6A33DD09401@apnic.net>
References: <CB57C1DE-DE75-4DCB-8603-B6A33DD09401@apnic.net>
Message-ID: <D8552316-98EB-439D-9FDC-985151401578@apnic.net>

Sorry… wrong room number on the text below but info was correct on the invitation. Thanks for spotting it!



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From: "sylvia at apnic.net" <sylvia at apnic.net>
Date: Monday, 12 November 2018 at 4:39 pm
To: Bestbits <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
Subject: Seed Alliance Awards invitation / Nov 13 13:30 salle IX, please join us!

Dear colleagues,

Hope you can join us tomorrow at Salle IX at 13:30 for the Seed Alliance Awards. The invitation is attached. There will be wine and sweet canapes afterwards.

FRIDA, FIRE and ISIF Asia are the grant and awards programs for the Regional Internet Registries (LACNIC, AFRINIC and APNIC), supporting Internet for Development across the Global South.

The winners on Community Networks and Gender Empowerment projects from Latin America and the Caribbean, Africa and Asia Pacific will be presented at the ceremony.

The Gender Empowerment awards will be presented by our funding partner IDRC and the Community Networks awards will be presented by our funding partner Internet Society.

Warm regards,

Sylvia

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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Nov 13 06:19:04 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:19:04 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <1670c196c60.2824.705b097764579b2584e3d1b2b46a90a4@theiofoundation.org>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <1670c196c60.2824.705b097764579b2584e3d1b2b46a90a4@theiofoundation.org>
Message-ID: <CAK78muQNios+6O_3SSjJGLhCgjL2ywURiSveCQWPdfaLuS4ZKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Thanks for sharing this output from the meeting, Jean!

Two things seemed to come out of our brief meeting yesterday 1) that we
need to host elections for Bestbits steering committee members as both
terms have expired and 2) that we should organise a coordination meeting
just before large-scale global events in the community - such as before
RightsCon and we also shared the idea of coordinating a meeting before IFF
too (contingent on reaching out to the organisers and that being possible
of course)! The point was also made, as Jean has pointed out, that we
should involve the Youth IGF more in our efforts including any coordination
meetings

What does everyone think about this? And what would you like such a meeting
to focus on?

@Renata/Jean/others who were there - was there anything I missed?

Best
Sheetal.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:05, Jean F. Quéralt <jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org>
wrote:

>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Following up what we discussed last night about engaging Youth IGF, could
> we designate someone per area/region/continent? The task would be to ease
> up a bit the onboarding.
>
> I could take care of linking with Agita from Indonesia whom, for all i
> know, kinda represents ASEAN.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> On November 12, 2018 17:17:09 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>>
>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>
>> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>>
>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>
>> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>>
>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>
>> @renataaquino
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
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From JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org  Tue Nov 13 09:04:00 2018
From: JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean_F=2E_Qu=C3=A9ralt?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:04:00 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <CAK78muQNios+6O_3SSjJGLhCgjL2ywURiSveCQWPdfaLuS4ZKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <1670c196c60.2824.705b097764579b2584e3d1b2b46a90a4@theiofoundation.org> <CAK78muQNios+6O_3SSjJGLhCgjL2ywURiSveCQWPdfaLuS4ZKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACuyrh9L04Cs0Ah4jaS-uhA3mde8ShPUm7DrqX+_sDT=Vm3-TQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Sheetal (and everyone).

A couple of mentions:
- It wasn't me who suggested bringing Youth IGF, it was Renata. I proposed
after that we onboard them by "areas" so that we can distribute that work
across members and possibly make it face to face. I volunteer for ASEAN
reps for Youth IGF.
- We also mentioned to try to dig the relevant documents that will help get
a general picture about Best Bits and the CS involvement in IGF and other
places where we might be losing representation. Diagrams, statuses,
whatever allows us to explain to newcomers (I am one) a general overview of
things and also help in the Youth IGF onboarding.

As per IFF, I am happy to coordinate with them too. If I get green light
I'll try to arrange for a visit in Valencia as I'll be in Alicante from
Saturday (that's barely 200Km and on my way down and up from France).

Thanks for everyone who attended yesterday, BTW. And thx Renata for the
patience :-)

Cheers.



On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:19 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for sharing this output from the meeting, Jean!
>
> Two things seemed to come out of our brief meeting yesterday 1) that we
> need to host elections for Bestbits steering committee members as both
> terms have expired and 2) that we should organise a coordination meeting
> just before large-scale global events in the community - such as before
> RightsCon and we also shared the idea of coordinating a meeting before IFF
> too (contingent on reaching out to the organisers and that being possible
> of course)! The point was also made, as Jean has pointed out, that we
> should involve the Youth IGF more in our efforts including any coordination
> meetings
>
> What does everyone think about this? And what would you like such a
> meeting to focus on?
>
> @Renata/Jean/others who were there - was there anything I missed?
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:05, Jean F. Quéralt <
> jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> Following up what we discussed last night about engaging Youth IGF, could
>> we designate someone per area/region/continent? The task would be to ease
>> up a bit the onboarding.
>>
>> I could take care of linking with Agita from Indonesia whom, for all i
>> know, kinda represents ASEAN.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>> On November 12, 2018 17:17:09 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>>>
>>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>>
>>> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>>>
>>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>>
>>> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>>>
>>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>>
>>> @renataaquino
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
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>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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> DD7F E592 EFBB EAB1 CF31|
>
>

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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 15:15:40 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:15:40 -0400
Subject: [bestbits] Web Summit - Lisbon
Message-ID: <CAK-FJAfSa1h194rgVowjZhR8anaxw9KfvF_Txpn0GTam3pFxaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Is anybody from this list going to the Web Summit in Lisbon next week? I
will be there.

LMK.

Tks!
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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Tue Nov 13 09:16:35 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:16:35 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
In-Reply-To: <CACuyrh9L04Cs0Ah4jaS-uhA3mde8ShPUm7DrqX+_sDT=Vm3-TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwWU-3XefJxNDnxUJjDYG7r+pych85=RQQrj41ipunb6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <1670c196c60.2824.705b097764579b2584e3d1b2b46a90a4@theiofoundation.org>
 <CAK78muQNios+6O_3SSjJGLhCgjL2ywURiSveCQWPdfaLuS4ZKQ@mail.gmail.com> <CACuyrh9L04Cs0Ah4jaS-uhA3mde8ShPUm7DrqX+_sDT=Vm3-TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV3mDxU9269Fdt8uPn+a5ovi_ME_C=asLYRZ33QCkzweJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

Thank you very much for the report on the session, are there more
consistent notes about the meeting? I was also not able to attend due to an
agenda clash.

I am also aware that there was some sort of discussion around MAG
Nominations and would like to ask if anyone would care to share a few notes
on this specific point ? CSCG as a group has already send previous
communications to the MAG on this subject and it would be good for us to
coordinate and not replicate efforts.

best,
Bruna

Em ter, 13 de nov de 2018 às 12:05, Jean F. Quéralt <
JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org> escreveu:

> Hi, Sheetal (and everyone).
>
> A couple of mentions:
> - It wasn't me who suggested bringing Youth IGF, it was Renata. I proposed
> after that we onboard them by "areas" so that we can distribute that work
> across members and possibly make it face to face. I volunteer for ASEAN
> reps for Youth IGF.
> - We also mentioned to try to dig the relevant documents that will help
> get a general picture about Best Bits and the CS involvement in IGF and
> other places where we might be losing representation. Diagrams, statuses,
> whatever allows us to explain to newcomers (I am one) a general overview of
> things and also help in the Youth IGF onboarding.
>
> As per IFF, I am happy to coordinate with them too. If I get green light
> I'll try to arrange for a visit in Valencia as I'll be in Alicante from
> Saturday (that's barely 200Km and on my way down and up from France).
>
> Thanks for everyone who attended yesterday, BTW. And thx Renata for the
> patience :-)
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:19 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this output from the meeting, Jean!
>>
>> Two things seemed to come out of our brief meeting yesterday 1) that we
>> need to host elections for Bestbits steering committee members as both
>> terms have expired and 2) that we should organise a coordination meeting
>> just before large-scale global events in the community - such as before
>> RightsCon and we also shared the idea of coordinating a meeting before IFF
>> too (contingent on reaching out to the organisers and that being possible
>> of course)! The point was also made, as Jean has pointed out, that we
>> should involve the Youth IGF more in our efforts including any coordination
>> meetings
>>
>> What does everyone think about this? And what would you like such a
>> meeting to focus on?
>>
>> @Renata/Jean/others who were there - was there anything I missed?
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:05, Jean F. Quéralt <
>> jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> Following up what we discussed last night about engaging Youth IGF,
>>> could we designate someone per area/region/continent? The task would be to
>>> ease up a bit the onboarding.
>>>
>>> I could take care of linking with Agita from Indonesia whom, for all i
>>> know, kinda represents ASEAN.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On November 12, 2018 17:17:09 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>>>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>>>
>>>> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>>>>
>>>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>>>
>>>> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>>>>
>>>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>>>
>>>> @renataaquino
>>>>
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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From alex at privacyinternational.org  Wed Nov 14 06:54:29 2018
From: alex at privacyinternational.org (Alexandrine Pirlot de Corbion)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 11:54:29 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Opportunity at PI - We are recruiting a M&E and Learning
 Officer
Message-ID: <65A0C0E8-21C6-470F-9D5C-181BF74F6C46@privacyinternational.org>

Hi!

Privacy International has an opening for a M&E and Learning Officer to join our team.

Monitoring & Evaluation and Learning Officer
+ Location: London, United Kingdom
+ Job Description: The Monitoring & Evaluation and Learning Officer will play a leading role in the design and delivery of monitoring, evaluation and learning strategy for PI’s new multi-year strategic plan from 2019 onwards which will include developing a culture of collective ownership for M&E. Working primarily in support of PI’s engagement with national partners in the Privacy International Network, this role will focus on providing support and capacity development to a multi-year and multi-partner project on the impact of data intensive systems on human rights, and in particular on the right to privacy.
+ Full description and application process: https://privacyinternational.org/type-resource/opportunities  <https://privacyinternational.org/type-resource/opportunities>

Please feel free to share this opportunity! Thank you very much.

Best,

Alexandrine

Ms. Alexandrine Pirlot de Corbion

Lead - Global Programme
Privacy International
62 Britton Street
London, EC1M 5UY
United Kingdom

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From raquino at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 10:42:40 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:42:40 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] list of 2019 MAG members
Message-ID: <CAMokdMxn3MbX8TvEPhH8=5a5kYrPoWQ4h11+seHS94BjfH2YMg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all

Please find here the list of 2019 MAG members

https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2019-members

Best,

Renata

From raquino at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 10:46:50 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:46:50 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups -
 19:30 IGF Paris
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Dear Sheetal, Jean and others

Thank for being in the meeting and contributing to this thread.
It is great that Sheetal announced that we need to start the process of
renewing the Bestbits Steering Committee

This committee can be formed as a group up to 10 members, including the
CSCG Bestbits representatives.

I will come back to the SC with a proposal for a nomination timeline and
voting process.

Thank you

Renata





On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for the report on the session, are there more
> consistent notes about the meeting? I was also not able to attend due to an
> agenda clash.
>
> I am also aware that there was some sort of discussion around MAG
> Nominations and would like to ask if anyone would care to share a few notes
> on this specific point ? CSCG as a group has already send previous
> communications to the MAG on this subject and it would be good for us to
> coordinate and not replicate efforts.
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
> Em ter, 13 de nov de 2018 às 12:05, Jean F. Quéralt <
> JFQueralt at theiofoundation.org> escreveu:
>
>> Hi, Sheetal (and everyone).
>>
>> A couple of mentions:
>> - It wasn't me who suggested bringing Youth IGF, it was Renata. I
>> proposed after that we onboard them by "areas" so that we can distribute
>> that work across members and possibly make it face to face. I volunteer for
>> ASEAN reps for Youth IGF.
>> - We also mentioned to try to dig the relevant documents that will help
>> get a general picture about Best Bits and the CS involvement in IGF and
>> other places where we might be losing representation. Diagrams, statuses,
>> whatever allows us to explain to newcomers (I am one) a general overview of
>> things and also help in the Youth IGF onboarding.
>>
>> As per IFF, I am happy to coordinate with them too. If I get green light
>> I'll try to arrange for a visit in Valencia as I'll be in Alicante from
>> Saturday (that's barely 200Km and on my way down and up from France).
>>
>> Thanks for everyone who attended yesterday, BTW. And thx Renata for the
>> patience :-)
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:19 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this output from the meeting, Jean!
>>>
>>> Two things seemed to come out of our brief meeting yesterday 1) that we
>>> need to host elections for Bestbits steering committee members as both
>>> terms have expired and 2) that we should organise a coordination meeting
>>> just before large-scale global events in the community - such as before
>>> RightsCon and we also shared the idea of coordinating a meeting before IFF
>>> too (contingent on reaching out to the organisers and that being possible
>>> of course)! The point was also made, as Jean has pointed out, that we
>>> should involve the Youth IGF more in our efforts including any coordination
>>> meetings
>>>
>>> What does everyone think about this? And what would you like such a
>>> meeting to focus on?
>>>
>>> @Renata/Jean/others who were there - was there anything I missed?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 09:05, Jean F. Quéralt <
>>> jfqueralt at theiofoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Following up what we discussed last night about engaging Youth IGF,
>>>> could we designate someone per area/region/continent? The task would be to
>>>> ease up a bit the onboarding.
>>>>
>>>> I could take care of linking with Agita from Indonesia whom, for all i
>>>> know, kinda represents ASEAN.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On November 12, 2018 17:17:09 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reminder: Civil Society Meeting - CSCG groups - 19:30 IGF Paris
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone I have managed to book a room for a Civil Society Meeting
>>>>> and I'm publicizing this in CSCG groups
>>>>>
>>>>> Bilateral rooms are small but I have managed to book enough places
>>>>>
>>>>> Room: S.376 - UNESCO
>>>>>
>>>>> 7:30pm-8:30pm (UTC+1)
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Monday, Nov 12, 2018
>>>>>
>>>>> @renataaquino
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: @@@Name]
>> JEAN F. QUÉRALT
>>
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>
>
> --
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>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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From raquino at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 10:49:33 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:49:33 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Meeting - other details
Message-ID: <CAMokdMwx6eowrYqHy-53dKCfzMWjue4yQt=2ZQ+FiHk+aGDR-A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

As for other crucial details of the Civil Society Meeting held at
IGF2018, would be great indeed to have more meetings at IFF and
Rightscon (should organizers agree).

As outgoing BB SC Member, I can volunter on collaborating remotely on
whatever is needed.

I believe the SC can bring up to the list their intentions to
collaborate should the opportunity surface

Thanks

From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Sat Nov 17 08:47:07 2018
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Arsene TUNGALI (Yahoo)" (via bestbits Mailing List)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 13:47:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] list of 2019 MAG members
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMxn3MbX8TvEPhH8=5a5kYrPoWQ4h11+seHS94BjfH2YMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMxn3MbX8TvEPhH8=5a5kYrPoWQ4h11+seHS94BjfH2YMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1934895788.3420443.1542462427252@mail.yahoo.com>

Congratulations to all CS members selected!


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 5:42 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all

Please find here the list of 2019 MAG members

https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/mag-2019-members

Best,

Renata
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From juliananbc at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 18:26:10 2018
From: juliananbc at gmail.com (Juliana Novaes)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 21:26:10 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] Creating Networks - A Youth Observatory Project
Message-ID: <CACMWLS8fz=Z1r2GjjbKZU-DggWMB4n8DKfuW0-wZP3SOjD3hBA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, my name is Juliana Novaes and I'm a member of the Youth SIG of ISOC.
The Youth Observatory is currently developing a project to map initiatives
involving youth and communication and information technologies.

In order to do this, we are collecting information on ICT organizations and
initiatives that have projects that include young people. So, if you are
familiar with any initiative of this sort, I kindly ask you to access our
website and fill our form.

https://creandoredes.youthsig.org/en/

If you have any questions, comments, concerns, please don't hesitate to
contact me.



Best Regards,



*Juliana Novaes*
Youth Observatory
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From joly at punkcast.com  Sat Nov 17 20:33:44 2018
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 20:33:44 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Creating Networks - A Youth Observatory Project
In-Reply-To: <CACMWLS8fz=Z1r2GjjbKZU-DggWMB4n8DKfuW0-wZP3SOjD3hBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACMWLS8fz=Z1r2GjjbKZU-DggWMB4n8DKfuW0-wZP3SOjD3hBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM9VJk2EpasEeX+GLyELozu=1=FrD2e3Xxhw8=gPuuUgabgYyA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Juliana,

Is this just Latin America, or worldwide?

joly

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:26 PM Juliana Novaes <juliananbc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, my name is Juliana Novaes and I'm a member of the Youth SIG of ISOC.
> The Youth Observatory is currently developing a project to map initiatives
> involving youth and communication and information technologies.
>
> In order to do this, we are collecting information on ICT organizations
> and initiatives that have projects that include young people. So, if you
> are familiar with any initiative of this sort, I kindly ask you to access
> our website and fill our form.
>
> https://creandoredes.youthsig.org/en/
>
> If you have any questions, comments, concerns, please don't hesitate to
> contact me.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> *Juliana Novaes*
> Youth Observatory
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
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From juliananbc at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 07:57:44 2018
From: juliananbc at gmail.com (Juliana Novaes)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 11:57:44 -0100
Subject: [bestbits] Creating Networks - A Youth Observatory Project
In-Reply-To: <CAM9VJk2EpasEeX+GLyELozu=1=FrD2e3Xxhw8=gPuuUgabgYyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACMWLS8fz=Z1r2GjjbKZU-DggWMB4n8DKfuW0-wZP3SOjD3hBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM9VJk2EpasEeX+GLyELozu=1=FrD2e3Xxhw8=gPuuUgabgYyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACMWLS-=rwtJ8jn2Gob1vD3fCYYkJTVus+pvd-WBgfmYJg8YrA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Joly.

The second part of the project, after the mapping is done, will be webinars
and workshops to connect similar initiatives.

This part will be focused on Latin America, since most of our members live
in the region and for budget reasons.

However, the mapping is worldwide, so we are collecting information on
initiatives everywhere.



Best Regards,


Juliana Novaes
Youth Observatory

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 00:34 Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:

> Hi Juliana,
>
> Is this just Latin America, or worldwide?
>
> joly
>
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:26 PM Juliana Novaes <juliananbc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, my name is Juliana Novaes and I'm a member of the Youth SIG of
>> ISOC.
>> The Youth Observatory is currently developing a project to map
>> initiatives involving youth and communication and information technologies.
>>
>> In order to do this, we are collecting information on ICT organizations
>> and initiatives that have projects that include young people. So, if you
>> are familiar with any initiative of this sort, I kindly ask you to access
>> our website and fill our form.
>>
>> https://creandoredes.youthsig.org/en/
>>
>> If you have any questions, comments, concerns, please don't hesitate to
>> contact me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Juliana Novaes*
>> Youth Observatory
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
>
>
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From abkarmassar at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 16:01:29 2018
From: abkarmassar at gmail.com (Abakar Oumar Massar)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 22:01:29 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Creating Networks - A Youth Observatory Project
In-Reply-To: <CACMWLS-=rwtJ8jn2Gob1vD3fCYYkJTVus+pvd-WBgfmYJg8YrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACMWLS8fz=Z1r2GjjbKZU-DggWMB4n8DKfuW0-wZP3SOjD3hBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM9VJk2EpasEeX+GLyELozu=1=FrD2e3Xxhw8=gPuuUgabgYyA@mail.gmail.com> <CACMWLS-=rwtJ8jn2Gob1vD3fCYYkJTVus+pvd-WBgfmYJg8YrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEp2OPK=rsCok0mrZsuyq3FiQoVX=XnZncm29+wWbHGD+3sQcA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all
Like you said the project was for Latino American people. So we wishe them
all the best.

في الأحد، ١٨ نوفمبر، ٢٠١٨ ١٣:٥٨ Juliana Novaes <juliananbc at gmail.com> كتب:

> Hi, Joly.
>
> The second part of the project, after the mapping is done, will be
> webinars and workshops to connect similar initiatives.
>
> This part will be focused on Latin America, since most of our members live
> in the region and for budget reasons.
>
> However, the mapping is worldwide, so we are collecting information on
> initiatives everywhere.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Juliana Novaes
> Youth Observatory
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 00:34 Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Juliana,
>>
>> Is this just Latin America, or worldwide?
>>
>> joly
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:26 PM Juliana Novaes <juliananbc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, my name is Juliana Novaes and I'm a member of the Youth SIG of
>>> ISOC.
>>> The Youth Observatory is currently developing a project to map
>>> initiatives involving youth and communication and information technologies.
>>>
>>> In order to do this, we are collecting information on ICT organizations
>>> and initiatives that have projects that include young people. So, if you
>>> are familiar with any initiative of this sort, I kindly ask you to access
>>> our website and fill our form.
>>>
>>> https://creandoredes.youthsig.org/en/
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, comments, concerns, please don't hesitate to
>>> contact me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Juliana Novaes*
>>> Youth Observatory
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From nnenna75 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 15:59:31 2018
From: nnenna75 at gmail.com (Nnenna Nwakanma)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 19:59:31 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Web Summit - Lisbon
In-Reply-To: <CAK-FJAfSa1h194rgVowjZhR8anaxw9KfvF_Txpn0GTam3pFxaA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK-FJAfSa1h194rgVowjZhR8anaxw9KfvF_Txpn0GTam3pFxaA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADFgh13ShDdmzactFPQP8mDOkRagEaarvMup5B9G-yk+59u3SA@mail.gmail.com>

I am.

Nnenna

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:16 PM Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Is anybody from this list going to the Web Summit in Lisbon next week? I
> will be there.
>
> LMK.
>
> Tks!
> --
>
> *Carolina Rossini *
> + 1 (617) 697 9389 | skype: carolrossini | @carolinarossini
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From ycompanys at gmail.com  Sun Nov 18 22:17:51 2018
From: ycompanys at gmail.com (Yosem Companys)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 19:17:51 -0800
Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?University_of_Washington=E2=80=99s_Allen_Sch?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?ool_Seeking_New_PhD_Students_for_Research_in_Universal_Internet?=
 =?UTF-8?Q?_Access_and_Community_Networking?=
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References: <mailman.178.1542596119.1554.change@change.washington.edu>
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From: Kurtis Heimerl <kheimerl at cs.washington.edu>

Apologies for the wide posting but I feel like these lists have the
kind of people we're looking for! Feel free to forward on if there are
other communities that could be interested.

*****

The ICTD Research Group at the University of Washington’s Allen School
of Computer Science and Engineering (http://ictd.cs.washington.edu/)
is seeking qualified students, both from the US and abroad, with an
interest in universal internet access and community networking to
apply to the PhD program in computer networking. The ICTD group, led
by Professors Kurtis Heimerl and Richard Anderson, has long worked on
the problems of Universal Internet Access internationally, with
deployments and projects in both the rural Philippines (in partnership
with the University of the Philippines) and Indonesia (in partnership
with Ob Anggen). As our research shifts to wide-area LTE networks and
the infrastructure of repair, we want to find more motivated and
passionate students with interest and capacity in the space. There is
a particular interest in students with personal experience with hard
connectivity problems.

If interested, please visit the UWCSE admissions page
(https://www.cs.washington.edu/academics/phd). All students admitted
to the Allen School Ph.D. program are guaranteed funding for 3 years
in the form of a research assistantship, teaching assistantship or
fellowship. All or most of the cost of tuition is covered by the
assistantship or fellowship. If you have any questions, please direct
them to Professor Kurtis Heimerl <kheimerl at cs.washington.edu>.

A little about the University of Washington’s Allen School of Computer
Science and Engineering: Consistently ranked among the top computer
science programs in the world, the Paul G. Allen School of Computer
Science & Engineering educates tomorrow's innovators and engages in
research that advances core and emerging areas of the field. We also
lead a broad range of multi-disciplinary initiatives that demonstrate
the transformative power of computing and are nationally recognized
for our success in promoting diversity. We are located in the
spectacular Paul G. Allen Center for Computer Science & Engineering at
the heart of the University of Washington campus in Seattle — a center
of innovation in software, life sciences, global health, aerospace,
and many other fields — where Allen School faculty, students, and
alumni are making an impact and changing the world.

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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 12:37:19 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:37:19 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Data and Elections in Brazil 2018: Personal data
 and political influence in preparation for the Brazilian elections of 2018
 - A report by Coding Rights
In-Reply-To: <c3b34110a55830ba5ab2fd59e08f35ae@codingrights.org>
References: <c3b34110a55830ba5ab2fd59e08f35ae@codingrights.org>
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <brunasantos at codingrights.org>
Date: seg, 19 de nov de 2018 às 15:32
Subject: Data and Elections in Brazil 2018: Personal data and political
influence in preparation for the Brazilian elections of 2018 - A report by
Coding Rights
To: Bruna mrtns <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>


Dear all,

Coding Rights just launched its most recent research - Personal data and
political influence in preparation for the Brazilian elections of 2018 -
on the brazilian elections and the use of personal data as a tool for
political influence in this scenario. To try to understand part of this
process, we have tried to investigate the role of personal data in
political marketing strategies.

When it comes to Political Advertising online, in a context of low data
protection such as the brazilian one, the lack of comprehensive
legislation around the collection and use of personal data added to the
reception of the new rules around political advertisement online creates
an environment conducive to the current situation of rampant attacks on
social networks, misinformation and political polarization.

During the conduction of the research, digital campaigns strategists
were interviewed and reinforced the understanding that the data industry
involves public databases, such as the one used for the provision of
public policies and large telecommunications and credit score companies
- such as Vivo and Serasa Experian respectively. Data such as our
telephone numbers and email are used indiscriminately by political
parties, campaign strategists or anyone who wants to buy our data

These and other findings are in the report “Personal data and political
influence in preparation for the Brazilian elections of 2018”, a country
study of a global project conducted by Tactical Tech Collective, that
can be found here: https://www.codingrights.org/dataelections


Best,
-- 
BRUNA MARTINS DOS SANTOS
Advocacy Strategist
@CodingRights

radarlegislativo.org a project by _Coding Rights

[1]
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From mike.oghia at gmail.com  Fri Nov 23 07:37:04 2018
From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 13:37:04 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] GFMD releases statement on inclusion of journalists and
 news media
Message-ID: <CAMCMt7q10Ye7bRNKeDe6jH8Ui2y4Vr8OoWz3nm8GVe1SStVybg@mail.gmail.com>

(Apologies for cross-posting)

Dear all,

In light of our participation in the IGF last week, the Global Forum for
Media Development (GFMD) released a statement
<https://gfmd.info/gfmd-calls-for-broader-inclusion-of-journalists-in-internet-governance/>
today calling
on the global Internet governance community to recognise the need for
broader inclusion of journalism and the news media community within the IGF
and wider Internet governance ecosystem. It also encourages the journalism
support and media development community to be more engaged in Internet
governance bodies and processes.

By issuing this statement, we seek to promote the spirit of
multi-stakeholder cooperation while communicating our willingness to work
collaboratively to address some of the most pressing digital, democratic,
and informational challenges.

In remarks included in the statement, GFMD Executive Director Mira
Milosevic said:

*“We recognise that the journalism support and media development community
> is in a prime position to add its expertise and insight to Internet
> governance discussions. Connecting these two communities is critical for
> making sure that quality journalism and news media issues are considered in
> the Internet governance debates and processes and ultimately secure a
> viable space in the digital marketplace of ideas.”*


The statement accompanies the launch last Monday during the second annual
Media Development and Internet Governance Symposium of an issue paper
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hMclf0hz2PXa_VhOl7w2iRhFpvi-NZ0yeY2mJCN6QBA/edit?usp=sharing>
on
journalism, news media, and Internet governance that GFMD collaboratively
wrote with several of our members and partners across the journalism
support and media development community. We encourage all stakeholders to
read it and offer comments, feedback, and ideas for collaboration.

Please direct all correspondence to: moghia at gfmd.info

Best,
-Michael
__________________

Michael J. Oghia | Advocacy & engagement manager
Global Forum for Media Development (GFMD)
moghia at gfmd.info | https://gfmd.info | @MediaGFMD
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From 6.Internet at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 10:30:44 2018
From: 6.Internet at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:00:44 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society in Internet Governance : Road to WSIS+20
Message-ID: <CAHyAo0H-Xo6AVZGa4LbGki1Q72Lww9ZEQnEeRRx7hGOryqiUGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello

The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis, took
shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to WSIS+10.
Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the interactions in the
list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a reduced level. What
is it that needs to be done by lead participants from around the world to
strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in Internet Governance?

-- 
Sivasubramanian M
India.

Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 19:16:17 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 22:16:17 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Dear all,

Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:

On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
list. As @Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of
our joint
contribution
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
is
now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
the meeting if its of interest.

Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
but I dont have any more details than this.

I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely
use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can
better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two
weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC
this week.

Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.

Best,
Bruna





Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:

> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a week
> or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could also
> follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for next
> year.
>
> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
> we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Certainly
>>
>> So lets have a meeting.
>>
>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>
>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there
>>>> might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>>>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>>>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>>>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>>>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>>>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>>>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
>>>>> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
>>>>> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>>>> ____
>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>>>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>>>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>>>>>
>>>>> *2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>
>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
>>>>> (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>>>
>>>>> *NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>>>>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>>>>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>>>>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>>>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet Governance
>>>>>> Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil society event
>>>>>> this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday though, I am not
>>>>>> sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil
>>>>>> society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering
>>>>>> what the outcome was?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
>>>>>> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>>>>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>>>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis,
>>>>>>> took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to
>>>>>>> WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>>>>>>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>>>>>>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>>>>>>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>>>>>>> Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>
>>> ---
> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
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Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 21:19:05 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:19:05 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Thanks Bruna.

I think we really need to be action oriented here. Issuing statements  does
not really yield any result if we dont  have a plan, agreed set of tasks,
agreed set if values which we can strategize upon. We need to identify
important IG events coordinate and discuss what we want to do, which values
we want to bring and what our message is. It does not matter if our
messages are conflicting. It matters to be present.
Of course big civil society organizations are not going to pay attention
when we are too chotic and haphazard in action or missing in action. We
need to re start coordinating among ourselves. A call every three months, a
briefing email every month, will get us back on track.

If Friday this week is not feasible we can have the meeting Friday next
week. It’s important to have regular exchanges either on this list or
during online meetings. Im not really trying to create a collective again I
love individuality, but would be good to coordinate among ourselves and
know what we are up to, what events are going on and debate issues until
the next IGF or important  IG event.

Out of curiosity, who are actually members of CSCG?

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>
> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
> list. As @Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of
> our joint contribution
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> is
> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
> the meeting if its of interest.
>
> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
> but I dont have any more details than this.
>
> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely
> use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can
> better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two
> weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC
> this week.
>
> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
>
>
>
>
> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>
>> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
>> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
>> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
>> next year.
>>
>> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
>> we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly
>>>
>>> So lets have a meeting.
>>>
>>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>>
>>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there
>>>>> might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>>>>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>>>>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>>>>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>>>>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>>>>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>>>>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
>>>>>> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
>>>>>> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>>>>> ____
>>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>>>>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>>>>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
>>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
>>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
>>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>>>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
>>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>*
>>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
>>>>>> (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)*
>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>>>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>>>>>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>>>>>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>>>>>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>>>>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>>>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
>>>>>>> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
>>>>>>> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
>>>>>>> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil
>>>>>>> society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering
>>>>>>> what the outcome was?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
>>>>>>> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>>>>>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>>>>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis,
>>>>>>>> took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to
>>>>>>>> WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>>>>>>>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>>>>>>>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>>>>>>>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>>>>>>>> Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>
>>>> ---
>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
>
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From yannis at registry.asia  Mon Nov 26 21:31:49 2018
From: yannis at registry.asia (Yannis Li)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:31:49 +0800
Subject: [bestbits] APrIGF 2019 - Call for Thematic Suggestions [Deadline:
 16 Dec 2018]
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Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum 2019
Far Eastern University, Vladivostok, Russia
July 16 - 19 

Open Call for Thematic Suggestions 
Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF) Vladivostok 2018 is going to be held at Far Eastern University from 16-19 July, hosted by the Coordination Center for TLD RU.

The MSG would like to invite the Asia Pacific community to all contribute your thoughts and topic of interests in shaping the overarching theme and respective sub-themes for the upcoming 2019 meeting. 

Thematic Suggestions Survey Link: http://igf.asia/2019themes <http://igf.asia/2019themes> 
Please submit your suggestions by the deadline 16 December 2018, 23:59UTC.

For registration, please visit http://2019.aprigf.asia <http://2019.aprigf.asia/>

For any enquiries, kindly contact the secretariat at sec at aprigf.asia <mailto:sec at aprigf.asia>.

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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Mon Nov 26 21:43:07 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 00:43:07 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Hey Farzi,

Thanks for the response and suggestions. I agree we need to be action
oriented here, and also with the idea of convening a CS relevant IG events
in the upcoming year in order to identify common interests and possible
advocacy areas. - and I guess your suggestion might be shared with the ones
who discussed a CS meeting in RightsCon. This coordination could have
helped us better as a stakeholder group in a politically framed IGF like
this past one.

Having the meeting next week would be good as it would give us time to hear
back from others and also come up with an agenda.

About the CSCG, the composition remains the same - APC, Best Bits, JNC, IGC
and NCSG. (http://internetgov-cs.org/)

Best,
Bruna

Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 00:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we really need to be action oriented here. Issuing statements
>  does not really yield any result if we dont  have a plan, agreed set of
> tasks, agreed set if values which we can strategize upon. We need to
> identify important IG events coordinate and discuss what we want to do,
> which values we want to bring and what our message is. It does not matter
> if our messages are conflicting. It matters to be present.
> Of course big civil society organizations are not going to pay attention
> when we are too chotic and haphazard in action or missing in action. We
> need to re start coordinating among ourselves. A call every three months, a
> briefing email every month, will get us back on track.
>
> If Friday this week is not feasible we can have the meeting Friday next
> week. It’s important to have regular exchanges either on this list or
> during online meetings. Im not really trying to create a collective again I
> love individuality, but would be good to coordinate among ourselves and
> know what we are up to, what events are going on and debate issues until
> the next IGF or important  IG event.
>
> Out of curiosity, who are actually members of CSCG?
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>>
>> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
>> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
>> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
>> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
>> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
>> list. As @Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of
>> our joint contribution
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> is
>> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
>> the meeting if its of interest.
>>
>> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
>> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
>> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
>> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
>> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
>> but I dont have any more details than this.
>>
>> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
>> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
>> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
>> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
>> FOC this week.
>>
>> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
>> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>
>>> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
>>> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
>>> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
>>> we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Certainly
>>>>
>>>> So lets have a meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>>>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>>>
>>>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>>>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
>>>>>> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>>>>>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>>>>>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>>>>>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>>>>>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>>>>>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>>>>>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
>>>>>>> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
>>>>>>> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>>>>>> ____
>>>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>>>>>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng>, NaijaAgroNet
>>>>>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng>)
>>>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
>>>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
>>>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
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>>>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
>>>>>>> (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>>>>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
>>>>>>>> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
>>>>>>>> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
>>>>>>>> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil
>>>>>>>> society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering
>>>>>>>> what the outcome was?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
>>>>>>>> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>>>>>>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>>>>>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis,
>>>>>>>>> took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to
>>>>>>>>> WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>>>>>>>>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>>>>>>>>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>>>>>>>>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>>>>>>>>> Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
>>
> --
> Farzaneh
>


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From dave at davecake.net  Tue Nov 27 05:32:54 2018
From: dave at davecake.net (David Cake)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:32:54 +0800
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil Society in Internet Governance :
 Road to WSIS+20
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NCSG is represented on the CSCG by Robin Gross and myself. I am quite surprised to find that a meeting was held under the name of the CSCG - it is literally the first I have heard of it. 

David 

> On 27 Nov 2018, at 10:19 am, farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List) <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bruna. 
> 
> I think we really need to be action oriented here. Issuing statements  does not really yield any result if we dont  have a plan, agreed set of tasks, agreed set if values which we can strategize upon. We need to identify important IG events coordinate and discuss what we want to do, which values we want to bring and what our message is. It does not matter if our messages are conflicting. It matters to be present. 
> Of course big civil society organizations are not going to pay attention when we are too chotic and haphazard in action or missing in action. We need to re start coordinating among ourselves. A call every three months, a briefing email every month, will get us back on track. 
> 
> If Friday this week is not feasible we can have the meeting Friday next week. It’s important to have regular exchanges either on this list or during online meetings. Im not really trying to create a collective again I love individuality, but would be good to coordinate among ourselves and know what we are up to, what events are going on and debate issues until the next IGF or important  IG event. 
> 
> Out of curiosity, who are actually members of CSCG? 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear all, 
> 
> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting: 
> 
> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same list. As @Michael Oghia <mailto:mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> is now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about the meeting if its of interest. 
> 
> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process - but I dont have any more details than this. 
> 
> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC this week. 
> 
> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them. 
> 
> Best, 
> Bruna 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> escreveu:
> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for next year.
> 
> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> we're putting together is still open for comments too.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Certainly
> 
> So lets have a meeting. 
> 
> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC? 
> 
> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting information. We need to set up an agenda until then. 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com <mailto:mike.oghia at gmail.com>> wrote:
> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the problem. 
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues, should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between. 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better. Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
> ____
> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,  
> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, 
> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
> (DigitalSENSE Business News <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS <http://www.itrealms.com.ng/>, NaijaAgroNet <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng/>)
> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>  <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E>
> 
> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/> 
> JOIN us!!
> 
> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination. 
> 
> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering what the outcome was? 
> 
> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora. 
> 
> Best 
> Farzaneh 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>> wrote:
> 
> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org> <governance at lists.igcaucus.org <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>
> 
> 
> Hello
> 
> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in Internet Governance?
> 
> -- 
> Sivasubramanian M
> India.
> 
> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sivasubramanian M
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From mike.oghia at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 05:39:49 2018
From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:39:49 +0200
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Civil Society in Internet Governance :
 Road to WSIS+20
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I wasn't there at the meeting, but from what I understand based on the
emails sent during the IGF, it was for CSCG *groups*, not a formal CSCG
meeting per se. I'm under the impression it was meant to gather civil
society groups together for a quick meeting. Renata organised it, so she
can probably give more information about what exactly it was / was meant to
be.

Best,
-Michael



On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:33 PM David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:

> NCSG is represented on the CSCG by Robin Gross and myself. I am quite
> surprised to find that a meeting was held under the name of the CSCG - it
> is literally the first I have heard of it.
>
> David
>
> On 27 Nov 2018, at 10:19 am, farzaneh badii (via governance Mailing List) <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we really need to be action oriented here. Issuing statements
>  does not really yield any result if we dont  have a plan, agreed set of
> tasks, agreed set if values which we can strategize upon. We need to
> identify important IG events coordinate and discuss what we want to do,
> which values we want to bring and what our message is. It does not matter
> if our messages are conflicting. It matters to be present.
> Of course big civil society organizations are not going to pay attention
> when we are too chotic and haphazard in action or missing in action. We
> need to re start coordinating among ourselves. A call every three months, a
> briefing email every month, will get us back on track.
>
> If Friday this week is not feasible we can have the meeting Friday next
> week. It’s important to have regular exchanges either on this list or
> during online meetings. Im not really trying to create a collective again I
> love individuality, but would be good to coordinate among ourselves and
> know what we are up to, what events are going on and debate issues until
> the next IGF or important  IG event.
>
> Out of curiosity, who are actually members of CSCG?
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>>
>> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
>> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
>> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
>> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
>> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
>> list. As @Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> mentioned, the draft of
>> our joint contribution
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b> is
>> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
>> the meeting if its of interest.
>>
>> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
>> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
>> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
>> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
>> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
>> but I dont have any more details than this.
>>
>> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
>> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
>> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
>> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
>> FOC this week.
>>
>> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
>> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>
>>> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
>>> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
>>> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16bAUExfzYbL1VS5PMtwjnPUrRnZIYizk6CVPoA930xo/edit?ts=5bf5797b>
>>>  we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Certainly
>>>>
>>>> So lets have a meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>>>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>>>
>>>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>>>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
>>>>>> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>>>>>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>>>>>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>>>>>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>>>>>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>>>>>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>>>>>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
>>>>>>> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
>>>>>>> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>>>>>> ____
>>>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [*Multiple-award winning medium*]
>>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News
>>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews>; ITREALMS
>>>>>>> <http://www.itrealms.com.ng/>, NaijaAgroNet
>>>>>>> <http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng/>)
>>>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
>>>>>>> Oshodi-Lagos
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/>*
>>>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
>>>>>>> (ACSIS <http://www.acsis-scasi.org/en/>)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>>>>>>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>>>>>>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>>>>>>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>>>>>>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>>>>>>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
>>>>>>>> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
>>>>>>>> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
>>>>>>>> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil
>>>>>>>> society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering
>>>>>>>> what the outcome was?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
>>>>>>>> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>>>>>>>>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>>>>>>>>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis,
>>>>>>>>> took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to
>>>>>>>>> WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>>>>>>>>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>>>>>>>>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>>>>>>>>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>>>>>>>>> Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>
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>>
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>> @boomartins
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From raquino at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 06:27:23 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:27:23 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Dear Bruna

No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.

No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
know of this meeting.

Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.

As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
rather limited group.

Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
have some sort of periodical check.

That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
time

A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee

Best,

Renata


On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
<bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>
> On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about the meeting if its of interest.
>
> Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process - but I dont have any more details than this.
>
> I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC this week.
>
> Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
>
>
>
>
> Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>
>> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for next year.
>>
>> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Certainly
>>>
>>> So lets have a meeting.
>>>
>>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>>
>>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues, should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better. Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>>>>> ____
>>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
>>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
>>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering what the outcome was?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in Internet Governance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>> India.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>
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>
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>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 06:50:08 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:50:08 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] IGF MAG members transition meeting
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Dear all

There will be an IGF MAG members transition meeting in the beginning of dec.

As outgoing Civil Society MAG member, I'd welcome your suggestions to
the new MAG.

Some are returning and most of them are on Bestbits so I guess they
can also join in your suggestions or questions.

Best,

Renata

From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 08:44:15 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:44:15 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Dear Renata,

Thanks for your comments and concerns, Renata, which as you know we take
seriously.

I am sorry if I misunderstood, but I recall two threads mentioning "CS
Meeting -  CSCG groups"
<http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00051.html>, but that
might have been me reading too much into it. And, as I said, I was not able
to attend the meeting, hence my lack of information what was discussed
there. But thanks for clarifying that.

Please note that the idea of the meeting and the discussion of the HLPDC
process was discussed in the bestbits list
<http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00023.html>. Important
to mention that the HLPDC meeting was organized between the ones who
demonstrated interest in following the discussions and the contribution was
an outcome of the meeting itself. Luckily we were also joined by the
Panel's Secretariat, as Jovan Kurbalija was kind enough to attend our
meeting and sort some doubts we had about the panel.

We nevertheless apologize if you feel this wasn’t done properly or with
adequate notice.

Best,
Bruna

Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 09:28, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Dear Bruna
>
> No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
> the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
> internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.
>
> No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
> know of this meeting.
>
> Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
> were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.
>
> As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
> identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
> with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
> rather limited group.
>
> Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
> governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
> have some sort of periodical check.
>
> That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
> once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
> time
>
> A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
> >
> > On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
> list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is
> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
> the meeting if its of interest.
> >
> > Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
> but I dont have any more details than this.
> >
> > I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
> FOC this week.
> >
> > Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
> >>
> >> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
> next year.
> >>
> >> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together is
> still open for comments too.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Certainly
> >>>
> >>> So lets have a meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
> >>>
> >>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Farzaneh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> -Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The
> earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better.
> Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
> >>>>>> ____
> >>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
> >>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
> >>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
> >>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
> >>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
> Oshodi-Lagos
> >>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
> >>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
> >>>>>> JOIN us!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
> (ACSIS)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a
> civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was
> wondering what the outcome was?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in
> 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>> Farzaneh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hello
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS
> Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading
> to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
> Internet Governance?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
> >>>>>>>> India.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> >>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> >>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> >>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sivasubramanian M
> >>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> >>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
> >> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >
> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> > @boomartins
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
> >      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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From raquino at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 08:50:31 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:50:31 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Dear Bruna

We invited CSCG groups. Bestbits has 2 reps at CSCG.
To say that the meeting was done "in the name of CSCG" is wrong.

Good that you invited Secretariat but this has nothing to do with the
composition of CSCG.

Once more, recognizing civil society members of any other groups
(HLPDC or others) is lacking at CSCG.

Best,

Renata

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:44 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos
<bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Renata,
>
> Thanks for your comments and concerns, Renata, which as you know we take seriously.
>
> I am sorry if I misunderstood, but I recall two threads mentioning "CS Meeting -  CSCG groups", but that might have been me reading too much into it. And, as I said, I was not able to attend the meeting, hence my lack of information what was discussed there. But thanks for clarifying that.
>
> Please note that the idea of the meeting and the discussion of the HLPDC process was discussed in the bestbits list. Important to mention that the HLPDC meeting was organized between the ones who demonstrated interest in following the discussions and the contribution was an outcome of the meeting itself. Luckily we were also joined by the Panel's Secretariat, as Jovan Kurbalija was kind enough to attend our meeting and sort some doubts we had about the panel.
>
> We nevertheless apologize if you feel this wasn’t done properly or with adequate notice.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
> Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 09:28, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> Dear Bruna
>>
>> No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
>> the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
>> internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.
>>
>> No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
>> know of this meeting.
>>
>> Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
>> were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.
>>
>> As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
>> identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
>> with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
>> rather limited group.
>>
>> Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
>> governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
>> have some sort of periodical check.
>>
>> That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
>> once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
>> time
>>
>> A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>> >
>> > On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about the meeting if its of interest.
>> >
>> > Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process - but I dont have any more details than this.
>> >
>> > I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC this week.
>> >
>> > Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Bruna
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for next year.
>> >>
>> >> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Certainly
>> >>>
>> >>> So lets have a meeting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>> >>>
>> >>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Farzaneh
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> -Michael
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues, should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better. Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>> >>>>>> ____
>> >>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>> >>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>> >>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
>> >>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
>> >>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>> >>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>> >>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>> >>>>>> JOIN us!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering what the outcome was?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Best
>> >>>>>>> Farzaneh
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hello
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in Internet Governance?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>>>>> India.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ---
>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> >>>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ---
>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> >>>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ---
>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> >>>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---
>> >>>>> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> >>>>> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> To unsubscribe: <mailto:igc-unsubscribe at lists.riseup.net>
>> >> List help: <https://riseup.net/lists>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> > @boomartins
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>> >      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>> >      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>
>
>
> --
> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins

From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 08:54:38 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:54:38 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Hi folks,

I talked to a couple of people during IGF, but e did not have a formal
meeting. There is clearly interest and a feeling that “something is
missing”. Let’s put that energy to work. :-)))

RightsCon has open doors to a coordination meeting and we have private
spaces planned to accommodate those.

I will send a separate email with a doodle poll for a call and happy to
move from there. Or does anybody else wants to take the reins?

P.s the call for proposals is open and the deadline is December 14th!
Anyone is welcome to submit a proposal there, too! As Michael said, let’s
not sit around and wait for “leaders”. ;-)

Hugs,

C

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:44 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Renata,
>
> Thanks for your comments and concerns, Renata, which as you know we take
> seriously.
>
> I am sorry if I misunderstood, but I recall two threads mentioning "CS
> Meeting -  CSCG groups"
> <http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00051.html>, but that
> might have been me reading too much into it. And, as I said, I was not able
> to attend the meeting, hence my lack of information what was discussed
> there. But thanks for clarifying that.
>
> Please note that the idea of the meeting and the discussion of the HLPDC
> process was discussed in the bestbits list
> <http://lists.bestbits.net/arc/bestbits/2018-11/msg00023.html>. Important
> to mention that the HLPDC meeting was organized between the ones who
> demonstrated interest in following the discussions and the contribution was
> an outcome of the meeting itself. Luckily we were also joined by the
> Panel's Secretariat, as Jovan Kurbalija was kind enough to attend our
> meeting and sort some doubts we had about the panel.
>
> We nevertheless apologize if you feel this wasn’t done properly or with
> adequate notice.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
> Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 09:28, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
> raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Dear Bruna
>>
>> No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
>> the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
>> internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.
>>
>> No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
>> know of this meeting.
>>
>> Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
>> were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.
>>
>> As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
>> identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
>> with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
>> rather limited group.
>>
>> Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
>> governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
>> have some sort of periodical check.
>>
>> That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
>> once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
>> time
>>
>> A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>> >
>> > On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on
>> Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to
>> the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the
>> meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past
>> discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same
>> list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is
>> now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about
>> the meeting if its of interest.
>> >
>> > Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was
>> organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt
>> organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From
>> what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to
>> discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process -
>> but I dont have any more details than this.
>> >
>> > I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could
>> definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so
>> we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date
>> in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the
>> FOC this week.
>> >
>> > Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be
>> possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Bruna
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a
>> week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could
>> also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for
>> next year.
>> >>
>> >> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together
>> is still open for comments too.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <
>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Certainly
>> >>>
>> >>> So lets have a meeting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the
>> meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>> >>>
>> >>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting
>> information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Farzaneh
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <
>> mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the
>> problem.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> -Michael
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina,
>> there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I
>> understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have
>> been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an
>> disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues,
>> should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some
>> activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next
>> available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call.
>> The earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the
>> better. Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>> >>>>>> ____
>> >>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>> >>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>> >>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
>> >>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
>> >>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction,
>> Oshodi-Lagos
>> >>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>> >>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>> >>>>>> JOIN us!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society
>> (ACSIS)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>> attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is
>> intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not
>> accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not
>> the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this
>> document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other
>> person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet
>> Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil
>> society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday
>> though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a
>> civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was
>> wondering what the outcome was?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do
>> in 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Best
>> >>>>>>> Farzaneh
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>,
>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits
>> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hello
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS
>> Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading
>> to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the
>> interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a
>> reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from
>> around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in
>> Internet Governance?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>>>>> India.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ---
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>> >>>>> Please send all replies to 6.Internet at gmail.com
>> >>>>>
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> > @boomartins
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From raquino at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 09:05:22 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:05:22 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fwd: Civil Society in Internet
 Governance : Road to WSIS+20
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Hi Carolina

Thanks for the availability of the space at Rightscon.
However, as we know, most of civil society from LAC and AP won't be
able to self-fund for Tunisia so again a degree of exclusion is
expected.
(Yes, I know Rightscon has travel support but a limited amount).

Some of the group that met during IGF was to contact you to help
organize that meeting. Would be great to hear periodically about how
is that going and try and maximize inclusion (live tweeting volunteers
maybe)

As for the call, BB SC colleagues can weigh in. As outgoing, I hope
the successors or candidates to succcession come forward for it.

I've always found that it is easier when everybody realizes there are
no reins to take but a lot of work to do and not enough people to do
it. So a contribution counts much more than a complaint.

Best,

Renata


On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:54 AM Carolina Rossini
<carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I talked to a couple of people during IGF, but e did not have a formal meeting. There is clearly interest and a feeling that “something is missing”. Let’s put that energy to work. :-)))
>
> RightsCon has open doors to a coordination meeting and we have private spaces planned to accommodate those.
>
> I will send a separate email with a doodle poll for a call and happy to move from there. Or does anybody else wants to take the reins?
>
> P.s the call for proposals is open and the deadline is December 14th! Anyone is welcome to submit a proposal there, too! As Michael said, let’s not sit around and wait for “leaders”. ;-)
>
> Hugs,
>
> C
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:44 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Renata,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments and concerns, Renata, which as you know we take seriously.
>>
>> I am sorry if I misunderstood, but I recall two threads mentioning "CS Meeting -  CSCG groups", but that might have been me reading too much into it. And, as I said, I was not able to attend the meeting, hence my lack of information what was discussed there. But thanks for clarifying that.
>>
>> Please note that the idea of the meeting and the discussion of the HLPDC process was discussed in the bestbits list. Important to mention that the HLPDC meeting was organized between the ones who demonstrated interest in following the discussions and the contribution was an outcome of the meeting itself. Luckily we were also joined by the Panel's Secretariat, as Jovan Kurbalija was kind enough to attend our meeting and sort some doubts we had about the panel.
>>
>> We nevertheless apologize if you feel this wasn’t done properly or with adequate notice.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> Em ter, 27 de nov de 2018 às 09:28, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Dear Bruna
>>>
>>> No one said a meeting was organized under the name of CSCG. The aim of
>>> the meeting was to discuss more civil society participation in
>>> internet governance spaces including but not exclusively CSCG.
>>>
>>> No one discussed this input of HLPDC. I believe mostly did not even
>>> know of this meeting.
>>>
>>> Should you have invited the HLPDC Civil Society and Secretariat, who
>>> were at IGF, perhaps some strides could already have been made.
>>>
>>> As it was so clearly pointed out by Jean, some of us (me) have
>>> identified that the current composition of CSCG is less than ideal -
>>> with NCSG, APC, JustNet, Bestbits, and Internet Governance Caucus - a
>>> rather limited group.
>>>
>>> Other groups, esp. Youth, should be part of Civil Society in internet
>>> governance and the legitimacy of the groups already admitted should
>>> have some sort of periodical check.
>>>
>>> That being said, as outgoing Bestbits Steering Committee member, we'll
>>> once more get our ducks in a row for (re)election etc. as there is
>>> time
>>>
>>> A meeting would best profit from reps of the new Committee
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Renata
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:16 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > Just a quick clarification on the Civil Society Meeting:
>>> >
>>> > On sunday afternoon some of us met to discuss the High-Level Panel on Digital Cooperation and the feasibility of a Civil Society joint input to the open consultation the panel has issued. If I am not mistaken, the meeting was announced on the Best Bits list and was the result of a past discussion around the organization of a Civil Society Meeting on the same list. As @Michael Oghia mentioned, the draft of our joint contribution is now open for comments and we would be happy to send you guys a report about the meeting if its of interest.
>>> >
>>> > Other than that, I am also aware that another Civil Society Meeting was organized during the IGF (under the name of the CSCG although it wasnt organized by the committee), but I was not able to attend this one. From what I gathered from the lists, this second meeting was dedicated to discussing the Secretariat appointments to the MAG and also the process - but I dont have any more details than this.
>>> >
>>> > I would also not oppose the idea of an online meeting, we could definitely use more coordination and I can suggest the idea to CSCG just so we can better coordinate between the groups. Aiming for next week or a date in two weeks time would also be better as some of us might be attending the FOC this week.
>>> >
>>> > Last but not least, if we are to organize such meeting, what would be possible agenda items - maybe MAG and HLPDC could be some of them.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Bruna
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Em seg, 26 de nov de 2018 às 19:11, "Michael J. Oghia" <governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:
>>> >>
>>> >> Works for me, though there is also merit in postponing the call for a week or two to give people more time to commit to a full agenda. We could also follow-up with Sheetal and Carolina to see how we can strategize for next year.
>>> >>
>>> >> As a reminder too, the joint HLDPC submission we're putting together is still open for comments too.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> -Michael
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Certainly
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So lets have a meeting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Normally 12 UTC is a good time for the globe. How about we have the meeting this Friday 30 Nov, at 12.00 UTC?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you agree, I will send a calendar invite with the online meeting information. We need to set up an agenda until then.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Farzaneh
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:53 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> IMO, waiting around for "leaders" to do something is part of the problem.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>> -Michael
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:13 PM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thank you Farzaneh for mentioning the efforts taken by Carolina, there might have been informal get togethers or a Dinner, but as far as I understand there was no formal CS event during Day0 this year. Would have been of value to the IGF if it happened. @Deirdre  If there was an disagreement between CS participants once or twice, on one or more issues, should we characterize it as a division?  May we what we need is some activity, some positive discussion, a face to face meeting at the next available opportunity, and a skype call or two in between.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:31 PM Remmy Nweke <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Valid points Farzaneh, our coordination deserve a wake up call. The earlier we start thinking about the questions raised by Siva, the better. Hope our coordinators call meeting soon.
>>> >>>>>> ____
>>> >>>>>> REMMY NWEKE, mNGE,
>>> >>>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>> >>>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
>>> >>>>>> (DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)
>>> >>>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>> >>>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
>>> >>>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> 2019 Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable
>>> >>>>>> JOIN us!!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> *Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> NPOC FC Rep @ICANN Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG)
>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:53 PM farzaneh badii <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Siva, this is a very good question. the Internet Governance Caucus network is almost inactive, we did not do any civil society event this year before IGF ( I think there was one on Sunday though, I am not sure) but all in all we need better coordination.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I think Carolina and others had a meeting to discuss having a civil society pre-event of civil society at RightsCon during IGF, was wondering what the outcome was?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> We can also do an online meeting and discuss what we need to do in 2019 to be more active and effective in IG fora.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Best
>>> >>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM Sivasubramanian M <governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Bits bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>> The IG Civil Society was formed during WSIS Geneva and WSIS Tunis, took shape and was relatively active in the first 10 years leading to WSIS+10. Though individual leaders remain committed as ever, the interactions in the list, and during face to face opportunities, are at a reduced level. What is it that needs to be done by lead participants from around the world to strengthen and expand Civil Society participation in Internet Governance?
>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>> India.
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>>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 09:23:50 2018
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:23:50 -0200
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting - thinking 2019
 ahead.
Message-ID: <CADAEEV0bD_uBkDRCCy9n3BoHOnWnHwohiuCdfjNE5ubaVSagrw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a
Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had
to meet while in Paris.

I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)

For that I have set up this doodle
<https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time slots on
the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to suggest
agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time of your
preference - *and also to share it widely*.

Best,
-- 
*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 10:17:16 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:17:16 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Civil Society Coordination Meeting - thinking 2019
 ahead.
In-Reply-To: <CADAEEV0bD_uBkDRCCy9n3BoHOnWnHwohiuCdfjNE5ubaVSagrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADAEEV0bD_uBkDRCCy9n3BoHOnWnHwohiuCdfjNE5ubaVSagrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK-FJAeJBRoAU++POcwgm4TwGtFvYDVh2cXb3VgwNDp6hq2E2w@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Bruna! Filled. :-)

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:24 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Some of us discussed in both the Best Bits and IGC list the need for a
> Civil Society coordination meeting in light of the few opportunities we had
> to meet while in Paris.
>
> I believe the idea for this meeting would be for us to discuss Civil
> Society participation and steps forward, as well as identifying a CS
> Calendar for 2019 and possible areas of collective advocacy. (and a
> possible meeting previous to RightsCon, next june)
>
> For that I have set up this doodle
> <https://doodle.com/poll/23z58b8qz4mnn3gm> - with suggested time slots on
> the 6 and 7 or the 13th and 14th of december.  Please feel free to suggest
> agenda items and also to answer the thread with the date and time of your
> preference - *and also to share it widely*.
>
> Best,
> --
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
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From carolina.rossini at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 14:52:36 2018
From: carolina.rossini at gmail.com (Carolina Rossini)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:52:36 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] !!! RightsCon Tunis: Tickets now on sale!!!! <3
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Message-ID: <CAK-FJAffWtC5-9-jZecAm3UtchBu9epQ2yJdcDUGo7qNSbW+zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Carolina,

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(June 11-14, 2019)!*

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From gpaque at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 10:27:54 2018
From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:27:54 -0600
Subject: [bestbits] HLP-DC Virtual Town Hall Meeting Monday 3 December
In-Reply-To: <CAHXEJG1LBRimEfe1kiS7HmGhusBnPYQRk5aRFm-wLc58UZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D5AFCA09-5658-4C92-AED4-67723CAE49AD@diplomacy.edu> <CAHXEJG1LBRimEfe1kiS7HmGhusBnPYQRk5aRFm-wLc58UZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHXEJG1Zp+AX1_9LnaKg5A63WuJ+cWvvPCmAQ5jgD5LBCfrQuQ@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, best, Ginger


Virtual Town Hall -
First Monday of the Month

Updates from IGF, our Digital China tour & more

Date: Monday 3 December 2018
Time: 13:00 UTC | 8:00 New York | 14:00 Geneva | 18: 30 New Delhi | 21:00
Beijing
Registration link: http://bit.ly/2r8b428

This week, there was Cyber Monday...

Next week, it’s “Digital Monday” with the High-level Panel on Digital
Cooperation.

Join us via WebEx for updates and a discussion on:

   - Updates from the Internet Governance Forum 2018, the Panel’s recent
   visit to China, and upcoming engagement activities
   - Interactive discussion around topics in focus for this month: digital
   cooperation in the context of data, digital trust and security


Moderated by Dr. Jovan Kurbalija, Co-Executive Director of the Secretariat

https://digitalcooperation.org/
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From alex.comninos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  5 06:20:49 2018
From: alex.comninos at gmail.com (Alex Comninos)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 13:20:49 +0200
Subject: [bestbits] CS meeting at IGF Paris?
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Dear Ginger,

I am interested in the HLDC / CS event, could you please add me to the list.

Kind regards, 
Alex
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I am transitioning to a new email address: hello at alex.africa

> On 29 Oct 2018, at 21:05, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all...
> Are there plans for a BB or CS meeting at the IGF in Paris? I know it's difficult with no day zero and a compressed schedule, but I'm hoping we get together. I haven't seen anything, so please repeat the info if I missed it. Hoping to see many of you there!
> Best regards,
> Ginger
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> 
> 
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