[bestbits] [governance] Fw: [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Sat Jan 20 10:33:55 EST 2018


Rather than continuing to speculate should we not write to Lynn, listing
our concerns and asking for her explanation?
Deirdre

On 20 January 2018 at 11:10, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Saturday 20 January 2018 04:56 PM, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku wrote:
>
> Can the invitation letter be seen by others? It's possible for the
> invitation to be just for Lynn (because she has adequate credentials to
> deserve personal invitation), but she sees an opportunity in it to make
> some presentations on behalf of IGF. That's what I suspect from the
> clause:
>
>  "I/the IGF have been invited..."
>
> That's IMO also why it looks like MAG was bypassed.
>
> If the invitation is personal, Lynn has every right and all it takes to
> attend the forum and do all the roles she had outlined, but any
> ideas/opinions/arguments she will present and any incidents are strictly
> hers.
>
>
> Yes Chris, it will be good to know, but do note that the email also talk
> about some "two way collaboration between the WEF and IGF" .... this
> doesn't look personal to me at all!  , parminder
>
>
> It doesn't (and can't) follow that because she's MAG chair she'll be
> representing MAG or IGF. If the invitation letter is specifically to IGF
> MAG Chair, then she's entltled to answer the invitation on that capacity,
> after properly informing the constituency. She may or may not seek anyone's
> inputs to what she'll say or do. However, an invitation letter to IGF
> certainly requires a process of determining the person or delegation to
> represent IGF in word and action.
>
> I strongly think it's important for Lynn to explain her use of the forward
> slash between "I" and "the IGF".  Is the invitation letter ambiguous (not
> clear about who's invited)?
>
> CPU
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 4:14 AM, "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday 19 January 2018 11:23 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
> On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>
> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
> you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
> is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
> declaring....
>
>
> I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not that I
> think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an official way
> at other international institutions. On the contrary, I strongly believe
> that it should be able to do so,
>
>
> That might be one view, but it was not ever proposed nor agreed to by,
> lets use the term, "IGF community". This is always the problem with so
> called or claimed "open and flexible process", they get captured by whoever
> can expend the most resources. Norms and structures then can accordingly
> work to ensure fairness and equity, the values that should be central to
> progressive civil society
>
> .... parminder
>
>
> and the fact that it hasn't been able to effectively deliver messages to
> other institutions has been one of its chief failings. I also don't blame
> Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
>
> But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF (and
> IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally institutionalised in some
> way, so that there is accountability and legitimacy. It shouldn't just be
> casually announced that "I/the IGF have been invited...", as if the
> distinction is immaterial.
>
> I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's that, in my
> reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG has engineered this,
> but rather that it's been done in a way that deliberately bypassed the MAG,
> because the MAG is so dysfunctional that it stands in the way of the
> evolution of the IGF, in this and other respects, and Lynn knows this.
>
> But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG needs to
> be overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and bypassed. I support
> Parminder's call for the CS members of the MAG to hold it accountable here
> and to call for the institution of a proper, transparent and accountable
> process for the appointment of formal institutional liaisons between the
> IGF and other bodies.
>
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