From amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com  Tue Jan  2 00:08:22 2018
From: amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com (Amrita)
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 10:38:22 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] Internet Governance Developments in December
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Hi,

Wishing you a happy and prosperous 2018!

For those who are interested, you can read about Internet Governance Events
& Policy Developments in December, from the Indian Perspective, curated by
CCAOI  using this
<http://www.ccaoi.in/UI/links/fwnewsletter/CCAOI%20Newsletter%20December%202
017.pdf> link.  

Regards,

Amrita Choudhury

Director CCAOI 

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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Thu Jan 18 07:49:51 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:49:51 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] New podcast series on the big questions facing the
 digital environment
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Dear all,

The latest episode of In Beta, "*Should the tech giants of Silicon Valley
be broken up?*" is out. Please find more information about it below:




*In 1982, the Bell telecommunications monopoly in the US was broken up
after a landmark antitrust suit, ushering in a wave of innovation and
competition.Today, companies like Alphabet and Facebook are capturing an
unprecedented – and increasing – share of the world’s attention. Should we
be thinking about breaking them up, too? In episode 8 of GPD's flagship
podcast series, In beta, GPD's Executive Director Charles Bradley poses
this question to Gene Kimmelman of Public Knowledge.*

You can listen to it here:
https://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-8-should-the-tech-giants-of-silicon-valley-be-broken-up/

Best
Sheetal.

On 8 November 2017 at 15:50, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Just a heads up that the latest In beta – with GPD's Lead Strategist
> Matthew Shears & Gaus of FIRST and Panasonic, who recently joined us for
> our cybersecurity policy lab – is now out: https://www.gp-digital.or
> g/multimedia/in-beta-episode-7-can-stakeholders-find-
> common-ground-on-cybersecurity/
>
> Happy listening and please share with anyone who might be interested.
>
> Best
> Sheetal.
>
> On 29 September 2017 at 11:49, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> After a brief August hiatus, In beta is back. In the new episode, we talk
>> to Emma Llanso of CDT about the evolving role of intermediaries in
>> regulating online content.
>>
>> Listen here:https://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-
>> 6-who-gets-to-decide-when-content-is-removed/
>>
>>
>> <https://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-6-who-gets-to-decide-when-content-is-removed/>
>> As ever we welcome your feedback!
>>
>>
>> <https://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-6-who-gets-to-decide-when-content-is-removed/>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>>
>> On 4 July 2017 at 19:04, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Just to let you know that episode five of our In beta podcast is now
>>> live
>>> <http://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-5-is-civil-society-in-the-global-south-sustainable/>.
>>> In this episode, we examine questions of civil society sustainability in
>>> the global South with three voices from civil society and the donor
>>> community: Julie Broome, director of the Ariadne donor network; Andrew
>>> Puddephatt, executive chair of GPD’s advisory board; and Khilen Nathwani of
>>> the Kays Foundation.
>>>
>>> Listen to it here: http://www.gp-digital.or
>>> g/multimedia/in-beta-episode-5-is-civil-society-in-the-globa
>>> l-south-sustainable/
>>>
>>> And explore the In beta series here: https://soundcloud.com/in_beta
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Sheetal.
>>>
>>> On 11 May 2017 at 17:00, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Just in case it's of interest, episode 4 of our new podcast series
>>>> *In beta* is now live: https://soundcloud.com/i
>>>> n_beta/are-we-missing-the-bigger-picture-behind-network-disruptions-ep4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This episode, recorded at the Internet Freedom Forum in Lagos, Nigeria,
>>>> looks at the bigger picture behind network disruptions (or internet
>>>> shutdowns as they're more commonly known), with contributions from Deji
>>>> Olukotun from Access Now, Julie Owono from Internet San Frontiers and
>>>> Arthur Gwagwa from Strathmore University and the Open Technology Fund.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the positive feedback on the series so far. As ever please
>>>> feel free to share with anyone who might be interested; and let me know if
>>>> you have any questions about the series, or would like to be involved.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Best -
>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>
>>>> On 5 April 2017 at 14:28, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In case of interest, episode 3 of this series *In beta* is now live:
>>>>> http://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-3
>>>>> -can-a-business-be-a-human-rights-defender/
>>>>>
>>>>> *In the latest episode, GPD’s Executive Director interviews Michael
>>>>> Samway, former Vice-President and Deputy General Counsel for Yahoo! and
>>>>> current adjunct professor at Georgetown University, posing the question:
>>>>> can a business be a human rights defender?*
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the positive feedback on the series so far. As ever please
>>>>> feel free to share with anyone who might be interested!
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 March 2017 at 13:12, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In case of interest, just a heads up that episode 2 of this series *In
>>>>>> beta* is now live: https://soundcloud.com/i
>>>>>> n_beta/in-beta-episode-2-how-should-human-rights-defenders-a
>>>>>> pproach-cybercrime
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In it, we ask, "how should human rights defenders approach
>>>>>> cybercrime"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As ever please feel free to share with anyone who might be
>>>>>> interested!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 February 2017 at 21:38, Mishi Choudhary <
>>>>>> mishi at softwarefreedom.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Sheetal. Great effort! Podcast is one of my favorite content
>>>>>>> consumption tool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/22/2017 12:36 PM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > /[with apologies for cross-posting]/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I am writing to share a just launched a new podcast series
>>>>>>> > <http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast-
>>>>>>> series-in-beta/>
>>>>>>> > – called *In beta* – which will examine some of the biggest
>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>> > facing the digital policy environment.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Our aim in creating the series is to create an informal space for
>>>>>>> > critical discussion and debate on a range of issues, cutting across
>>>>>>> > traditional policy silos. More details on the series concept and
>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>> > are available
>>>>>>> > here: http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast-s
>>>>>>> eries-in-beta/
>>>>>>> > <http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast-
>>>>>>> series-in-beta/>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The series will be hosted by GPD's executive director, Charles
>>>>>>> Bradley.
>>>>>>> > In the first episode of the series – available now, here
>>>>>>> > <http://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-1-is-p
>>>>>>> olicymaking-stuck-in-the-19th-century/>
>>>>>>> > – he interviews GovLab co-founder Stefaan Verhulst, asking the
>>>>>>> question:
>>>>>>> > *'Is policymaking stuck in the 19th century?'*
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > We'd love to know what you think about the episode and the series
>>>>>>> > concept more generally. We're planning to record many more
>>>>>>> podcasts over
>>>>>>> > the coming months, and are open to ideas – so if you'd like to
>>>>>>> suggest a
>>>>>>> > guest, a topic or a question to discuss, drop an email to
>>>>>>> > charles at gp-digital.org <mailto:charles at gp-digital.org>.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any questions.
>>>>>>> We'd
>>>>>>> > also be hugely grateful if you could share this on your networks
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> > channels – and if you have any other ideas for how we could get
>>>>>>> the word
>>>>>>> > out, please let us know.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > For reference, the links for sharing are:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >   * *Blog post introducing the series and
>>>>>>> >     episode*: http://www.gp-digital.org/news
>>>>>>> /introducing-our-new-podcast-series-in-beta/
>>>>>>> >     <http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast
>>>>>>> -series-in-beta/>
>>>>>>> >   * *The episode
>>>>>>> >     itself*: http://www.gp-digital.org/mult
>>>>>>> imedia/in-beta-episode-1-is-policymaking-stuck-in-the-19th-century/
>>>>>>> >     <http://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-1-is-
>>>>>>> policymaking-stuck-in-the-19th-century/>
>>>>>>> >   * *GPD's Soundcloud
>>>>>>> >     page*: https://soundcloud.com/globalpartnersdigital
>>>>>>> >     <https://soundcloud.com/globalpartnersdigital>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > *Suggested tweets: *
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > A new podcast series, In beta, examines the big questions facing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > digital environment. Find out
>>>>>>> > more: http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast-s
>>>>>>> eries-in-beta/
>>>>>>> > <http://www.gp-digital.org/news/introducing-our-new-podcast-
>>>>>>> series-in-beta/>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Is policymaking stuck in the 19th century? A new podcast with
>>>>>>> > @CBradleyTweets and @sverhulst explores the
>>>>>>> > question: http://www.gp-digital.org/mult
>>>>>>> imedia/in-beta-episode-1-is-policymaking-stuck-in-the-19th-century/
>>>>>>> > <http://www.gp-digital.org/multimedia/in-beta-episode-1-is-p
>>>>>>> olicymaking-stuck-in-the-19th-century/>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best!
>>>>>>> > Sheetal.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > *
>>>>>>> > *
>>>>>>> > *
>>>>>>> > *
>>>>>>> > *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> > Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> > Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>> > T: +44 (0)203 818 3258 0337| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Warm Regards
>>>>>>> Mishi Choudhary, Esq.
>>>>>>> Legal Director
>>>>>>> Software Freedom Law Center
>>>>>>> 1995 Broadway Floor 17| New York, NY-10023
>>>>>>> Direct: +1-212-461-1912| Main: +1-212-461-1901| Fax: +1-212-580-0898
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258 0337| M: +44 (0)7739569514
>>>>>> <+44%207739%20569514>  |
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258 0337| M: +44 (0)7739569514
>>>>> <+44%207739%20569514>  |
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258 0337| M: +44 (0)7739569514
>>>> <+44%207739%20569514>  |
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258 0337| M: +44 (0)7739569514 <+44%207739%20569514>
>>>   |
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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> --
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>
> *Sheetal Kumar*
> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Fri Jan 19 07:35:06 2018
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:35:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?Fw=3A_=5BIgfregionals=5D_Fw=3A_=5BIGFmaglist?=
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Dear All, 
Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might be interested for you.
Best Regards
Imran Ahmed Shah



----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch>
 To: "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org> 
 Sent: Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
 Subject: [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
   
Dear Colleagues,
Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
Best regards,
Anja



-----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
From: "Lynn St.Amour" 
Sent by: "Igfmaglist" 
Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”

Dear colleagues,

I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is: "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And, there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles

In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF) meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).   

As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable, inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate progress around six shared global outcomes:

1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography, gender or income) can access and use the internet
2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable digital transformation
3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the transnational nature of digital connectivity
4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity
5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that enhance their social and economic well being
6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens

James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.   

I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the sessions:
- Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
- BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session 
- Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation

There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/

Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.

Very much look forward to your contributions, 

Best,
Lynn


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From parminder at itforchange.net  Fri Jan 19 08:11:39 2018
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
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I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? ..
That is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
declaring.... 

IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive
beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO
have been criticised (see for instance
http://www.twn.my/title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that
when the WEF centric Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was
invited to join it, but a view was taken that the IGF is not a
substantive agency/ organisation to represent any substantive view etc
to be a part of such an initiative.... So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF
now, and "representing the IGF" ...... MAG is a program management
committee, and it has no role beyond organising the IGF. This has been
clarified many time.... (In fact even when some of us wanted to give a
more substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG WG on IGF
improvements, some of those who are now associated with representing the
IGF opposed such a role.)

MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way.

I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS
members of the MAG to explain this to me.

thanks, parminder


On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits
Mailing List) wrote:
> Dear All,
> Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the
> IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where
> the theme of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured
> World”. Might be interested for you.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch>
> *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
> *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum -
> Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing
> the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anja
>
>
>
> -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> From: "Lynn St.Amour"
> Sent by: "Igfmaglist"
> Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
> Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a
> Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in
> the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the
> theme is: "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note:
> There is a guide on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:
>  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/  
>  And, there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues,
> including an interesting interactive map available through the first
> panel here:
> https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles
>
> In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I
> (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF)
> meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their
> “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and
> Networks as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in
> relevant areas (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs,
> DCs, etc.   In addition, for several years there has been a two-way
> collaboration between the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF
> Policy Options for Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).  
>
> As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to
> Co-Chair the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital
> Economy and Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened
> annually during the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per
> the WEF this initiative provides an opportunity to develop a shared
> vision for a sustainable, inclusive, and trustworthy digital future
> and priorities for collaborative action.   In particular, the
> initiative seeks to align and accelerate progress around six shared
> global outcomes:
>
> 1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in
> geography, gender or income) can access and use the internet
> 2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and
> civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a
> sustainable digital transformation
> 3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional,
> national policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal
> with the transnational nature of digital connectivity
> 4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All
> individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to
> vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity
> 5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access
> and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that
> enhance their social and economic well being
> 6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy:
> Individuals and institutions can share data in ways that create social
> and economic value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens
>
> James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair,
> and together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at
> Davos this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are
> aligned and that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.  
>
> I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and
> will be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some
> of the sessions:
> - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
> - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session
> - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation
>
> There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to
> share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for
> social media info., etc.
> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/
>
> Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG
> and MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking
>  the secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and
> to note this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest
> distribution possible.
>
> Very much look forward to your contributions,
>
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
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From David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu  Fri Jan 19 09:02:49 2018
From: David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu (David Allen)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 09:02:49 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
Message-ID: <BA26BDB7-0BB7-4D6F-BA0A-811A7EBE5FE2@post.harvard.edu>

I strongly second Parminder.

Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced member of this community who could contribute to WEF appearing there on her own right. But, invoking her position as chair of the IGF management group, the MAG, violates all that has been hammered out over long years. As Parminder forthrightly notes.

Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF mission – to be a neutral clearinghouse for what are sometimes radically opposed views. True neutrality requires being utterly faithful to process of evenhandedness, so ensuring diametrically opposed views feel equally comfortable in the dialogue – so, NOT taking a position.

Not to mention the violation of structural arrangements.

David


----- Original Message -----
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To:<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
Subject:Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag




I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent, you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even declaring.... 

IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO have been criticised (see for instance http://www.twn.my/title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that when the WEF centric Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was invited to join it, but a view was taken that the IGF is not a substantive agency/ organisation to represent any substantive view etc to be a part of such an initiative.... So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF now, and "representing the IGF" ...... MAG is a program management committee, and it has no role beyond organising the IGF. This has been clarified many time.... (In fact even when some of us wanted to give a more substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG WG on IGF improvements, some of those who are now associated with representing the IGF opposed such a role.) 

MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way. 

I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS members of the MAG to explain this to me. 

thanks, parminder 


On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List) wrote:
Dear All, 
Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might be interested for you.

Best Regards

Imran Ahmed Shah



----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch>
To: "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org> 
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
Subject: [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”

Dear Colleagues,

Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.

Best regards,

Anja



-----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
From: "Lynn St.Amour" 
Sent by: "Igfmaglist" 
Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”

Dear colleagues,

I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is: "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And, there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles

In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF) meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).   

As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable, inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate progress around six shared global outcomes:

1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography, gender or income) can access and use the internet
2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable digital transformation
3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the transnational nature of digital connectivity
4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity
5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that enhance their social and economic well being
6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens

James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.   

I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the sessions:
- Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
- BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session 
- Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation

There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/

Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.

Very much look forward to your contributions, 

Best,
Lynn


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From raquino at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 09:55:23 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:55:23 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
In-Reply-To: <BA26BDB7-0BB7-4D6F-BA0A-811A7EBE5FE2@post.harvard.edu>
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Dear all

This is an outreach action for IGF, same as in other events such as WSIS.
I do not see how the IGF is modified by anything that goes on in WEF, they
are different spaces, with different purposes.
The IGF activities are open to all who wish to participate and propose
investigative partnerships, dialogues.
Those involved with the IGF have to integrate in the dialogues the
communities, to listen as many voices as possible and bring them to be
represented in outcomes.
For that, outreach is done.

(This is a personal opinion)

Best,

Renata


On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM, David Allen <
David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu> wrote:

> I strongly second Parminder.
>
> Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced member of this community
> who could contribute to WEF appearing there on her own right. But, invoking
> her position as chair of the IGF management group, the MAG, violates all
> that has been hammered out over long years. As Parminder forthrightly notes.
>
> Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF mission – to be a
> neutral clearinghouse for what are sometimes radically opposed views. True
> neutrality requires being utterly faithful to process of evenhandedness, so
> ensuring diametrically opposed views feel equally comfortable in the
> dialogue – so, NOT taking a position.
>
> Not to mention the violation of structural arrangements.
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>  "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
>
> To:
> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> Cc:
>
> Sent:
> Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
> Subject:
> Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>
>
>
> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
> you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
> is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
> declaring....
>
> IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive
> beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO have
> been criticised (see for instance http://www.twn.my/
> title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that when the WEF centric
> Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was invited to join it, but a view
> was taken that the IGF is not a substantive agency/ organisation to
> represent any substantive view etc to be a part of such an initiative....
> So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF now, and "representing the IGF" ......
> MAG is a program management committee, and it has no role beyond organising
> the IGF. This has been clarified many time.... (In fact even when some of
> us wanted to give a more substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG WG on
> IGF improvements, some of those who are now associated with representing
> the IGF opposed such a role.)
>
> MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way.
>
> I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS members
> of the MAG to explain this to me.
>
> thanks, parminder
>
> On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing
> List) wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF
> at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme
> of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might be
> interested for you.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> *From:* Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch> <AGENGO at unog.ch>
> *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
> *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos
> 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the
> IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anja
>
>
>
> -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org> <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> From: "Lynn St.Amour"
> Sent by: "Igfmaglist"
> Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
> Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared
> Future in a Fractured World”
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the
> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is:
> "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide
> on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:  https://www.weforum.org/
> agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And, there is an ongoing
> stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive
> map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/
> system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-
> and-society/articles
>
> In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as
> IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF)
> meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their
> “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks
> as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas
> (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In
> addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between
> the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for
> Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).
>
> As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair
> the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and
> Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the
> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative
> provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable,
> inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative
> action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate
> progress around six shared global outcomes:
>
> 1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography,
> gender or income) can access and use the internet
> 2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil
> society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable
> digital transformation
> 3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national
> policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the
> transnational nature of digital connectivity
> 4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals,
> institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by
> increasing digital connectivity
> 5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access and
> use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that enhance
> their social and economic well being
> 6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals
> and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic
> value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens
>
> James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and
> together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos
> this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and
> that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.
>
> I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will
> be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the
> sessions:
> - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
> - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session
> - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation
>
> There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to
> share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social
> media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-
> davos-2018/
>
> Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and
> MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the
> secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note
> this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.
>
> Very much look forward to your contributions,
>
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
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From parminder at itforchange.net  Fri Jan 19 12:44:22 2018
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:14:22 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
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Hi Renata

From jmalcolm at eff.org  Fri Jan 19 12:53:28 2018
From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 09:53:28 -0800
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On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>
> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself
> at other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you
> represent, you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what
> basis? .. That is a mission creep which has been done without
> consulting or even declaring....
>

I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not that
I think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an official
way at other international institutions. On the contrary, I strongly
believe that it should be able to do so, and the fact that it hasn't
been able to effectively deliver messages to other institutions has been
one of its chief failings. I also don't blame Lynn St Amour for wanting
to do this.

But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF (and
IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally institutionalised in some
way, so that there is accountability and legitimacy. It shouldn't just
be casually announced that "I/the IGF have been invited...", as if the
distinction is immaterial.

I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's that, in my
reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG has engineered this,
but rather that it's been done in a way that deliberately bypassed the
MAG, because the MAG is so dysfunctional that it stands in the way of
the evolution of the IGF, in this and other respects, and Lynn knows this.

But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG needs to
be overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and bypassed. I support
Parminder's call for the CS members of the MAG to hold it accountable
here and to call for the institution of a proper, transparent and
accountable process for the appointment of formal institutional liaisons
between the IGF and other bodies.

-- 
Jeremy Malcolm
Senior Global Policy Analyst
Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://eff.org
jmalcolm at eff.org

Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161

:: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::

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From seth.p.johnson at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 14:13:00 2018
From: seth.p.johnson at gmail.com (Seth Johnson)
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+1

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
> On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>
> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent, you
> also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That is a
> mission creep which has been done without consulting or even declaring....
>
>
> I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not that I
> think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an official way at
> other international institutions. On the contrary, I strongly believe that
> it should be able to do so, and the fact that it hasn't been able to
> effectively deliver messages to other institutions has been one of its chief
> failings. I also don't blame Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
>
> But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF (and IETF,
> ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally institutionalised in some way, so
> that there is accountability and legitimacy. It shouldn't just be casually
> announced that "I/the IGF have been invited...", as if the distinction is
> immaterial.
>
> I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's that, in my
> reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG has engineered this, but
> rather that it's been done in a way that deliberately bypassed the MAG,
> because the MAG is so dysfunctional that it stands in the way of the
> evolution of the IGF, in this and other respects, and Lynn knows this.
>
> But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG needs to be
> overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and bypassed. I support
> Parminder's call for the CS members of the MAG to hold it accountable here
> and to call for the institution of a proper, transparent and accountable
> process for the appointment of formal institutional liaisons between the IGF
> and other bodies.
>
> --
> Jeremy Malcolm
> Senior Global Policy Analyst
> Electronic Frontier Foundation
> https://eff.org
> jmalcolm at eff.org
>
> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161
>
> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::
>
> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt
> PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122

From parminder at itforchange.net  Fri Jan 19 22:13:58 2018
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 08:43:58 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?Fw=3A_=5BIgfregionals=5D_Fw=3A_=5BIGFmag?=
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On Friday 19 January 2018 11:23 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>>
>> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself
>> at other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you
>> represent, you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on
>> what basis? .. That is a mission creep which has been done without
>> consulting or even declaring....
>>
>
> I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not
> that I think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an
> official way at other international institutions. On the contrary, I
> strongly believe that it should be able to do so, 

That might be one view, but it was not ever proposed nor agreed to by,
lets use the term, "IGF community". This is always the problem with so
called or claimed "open and flexible process", they get captured by
whoever can expend the most resources. Norms and structures then can
accordingly work to ensure fairness and equity, the values that should
be central to progressive civil society

.... parminder


> and the fact that it hasn't been able to effectively deliver messages
> to other institutions has been one of its chief failings. I also don't
> blame Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
>
> But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF (and
> IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally institutionalised in
> some way, so that there is accountability and legitimacy. It shouldn't
> just be casually announced that "I/the IGF have been invited...", as
> if the distinction is immaterial.
>
> I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's that, in
> my reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG has engineered
> this, but rather that it's been done in a way that deliberately
> bypassed the MAG, because the MAG is so dysfunctional that it stands
> in the way of the evolution of the IGF, in this and other respects,
> and Lynn knows this.
>
> But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG needs
> to be overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and bypassed. I
> support Parminder's call for the CS members of the MAG to hold it
> accountable here and to call for the institution of a proper,
> transparent and accountable process for the appointment of formal
> institutional liaisons between the IGF and other bodies.
> -- 
> Jeremy Malcolm
> Senior Global Policy Analyst
> Electronic Frontier Foundation
> https://eff.org
> jmalcolm at eff.org
>
> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161
>
> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::
>
> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt
> PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122

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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Sat Jan 20 00:57:23 2018
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 05:57:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] =?UTF-8?Q?Fw=3A_=5BIgfregionals=5D_Fw=3A_=5BIGFmag?=
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I also strongly agreed with Jeremy point of view and way forward. 

Regards 

Imran
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 19/1/18, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [bestbits] Fw: [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
 To: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
 Date: Friday, 19 January, 2018, 22:53
 
 
     On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
 
     
       I really did not know that IGF
 had its own
           agency to represent itself at other forums. Whom
 does it
           really represent? Because when you represent, you
 also speak
           for. For whom does the it speak, and on what
 basis? .. That is
           a mission creep which has been done without
 consulting or even
           declaring.... 
 
         
     
     
 
     I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does
 happen). Not
     that I think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be
 represented in an
     official way at other international institutions. On the
 contrary, I
     strongly believe that it should be able to do so, and
 the fact that
     it hasn't been able to effectively deliver messages
 to other
     institutions has been one of its chief failings. I also
 don't blame
     Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
 
     
 
     But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between
 IGF and WEF
     (and IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally
 institutionalised
     in some way, so that there is accountability and
 legitimacy. It
     shouldn't just be casually announced that
 "I/the IGF have been
     invited...", as if the distinction is
 immaterial.
 
     
 
     I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and
 that's that,
     in my reading of what has happened, it's not that
 the MAG has
     engineered this, but rather that it's been done in a
 way that
     deliberately bypassed the MAG, because the MAG is so
 dysfunctional
     that it stands in the way of the evolution of the IGF,
 in this and
     other respects, and Lynn knows this.
 
     
 
     But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this
 means the MAG
     needs to be overhauled, not that it needs to be
 minimized and
     bypassed. I support Parminder's call for the CS
 members of the MAG
     to hold it accountable here and to call for the
 institution of a
     proper, transparent and accountable process for the
 appointment of
     formal institutional liaisons between the IGF and other
 bodies.
 
     -- 
 Jeremy Malcolm
 Senior Global Policy Analyst
 Electronic Frontier Foundation
 https://eff.org
 jmalcolm at eff.org
 
 Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161
 
 :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::
 
 Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt
 PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A
 EDDF 1122
   

From yannis at registry.asia  Tue Jan  2 12:18:54 2018
From: yannis at registry.asia (Yannis Li)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 01:18:54 +0800
Subject: [bestbits] Open Call for Local Host of APrIGF & Youth IGF 2019
 (Deadline: 10 Feb)
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The Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF) is an annual regional event of the global Internet Governance Forum (IGF) process, and serves as a platform for discussion, exchange and collaboration of Internet Governance issues in the Asia Pacific region.
The MSG is now calling for proposals to host the APrIGF and yIGF 2019! We welcome any interested organizations in the Asia Pacific region to submit their proposals.

Inspire your local community with the diverse workshop discussions and enhance the development of Internet Governance together. Host our 2019 conference and welcome the 400+ stakeholders to your city now!

Submission Deadline: 10 Feb 2018
RFP Guidelines (Updated 13 Dec 2017): Download Here <http://aprigf.asia/documents/APrIGF_Request%20for%20Proposals_for_2019.pdf>
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Please kindly submit your proposal to msg at aprigf.asia <mailto:msg at aprigf.asia>.

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From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:40:02 +0530
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On Saturday 20 January 2018 04:56 PM, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku wrote:
> Can the invitation letter be seen by others? It's possible for the
> invitation to be just for Lynn (because she has adequate credentials
> to deserve personal invitation), but she sees an opportunity in it to
> make some presentations on behalf of IGF. That's what I suspect from
> the clause: 
>
>      "I/the IGF have been invited..."
>
> That's IMO also why it looks like MAG was bypassed.
>
> If the invitation is personal, Lynn has every right and all it takes
> to attend the forum and do all the roles she had outlined, but any
> ideas/opinions/arguments she will present and any incidents are
> strictly hers.

Yes Chris, it will be good to know, but do note that the email also talk
about some "two way collaboration between the WEF and IGF" .... this
doesn't look personal to me at all!  , parminder


> It doesn't (and can't) follow that because she's MAG chair she'll be
> representing MAG or IGF. If the invitation letter is specifically to
> IGF MAG Chair, then she's entltled to answer the invitation on that
> capacity, after properly informing the constituency. She may or may
> not seek anyone's inputs to what she'll say or do. However, an
> invitation letter to IGF certainly requires a process of determining
> the person or delegation to represent IGF in word and action. 
>
> I strongly think it's important for Lynn to explain her use of the
> forward slash between "I" and "the IGF".  Is the invitation letter
> ambiguous (not clear about who's invited)?
>
> CPU 
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 4:14 AM, "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Friday 19 January 2018 11:23 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>     On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>>>
>>>     I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent
>>>     itself at other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because
>>>     when you represent, you also speak for. For whom does the it
>>>     speak, and on what basis? .. That is a mission creep which has
>>>     been done without consulting or even declaring....
>>>
>>
>>     I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen).
>>     Not that I think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented
>>     in an official way at other international institutions. On the
>>     contrary, I strongly believe that it should be able to do so, 
>
>     That might be one view, but it was not ever proposed nor agreed to
>     by, lets use the term, "IGF community". This is always the problem
>     with so called or claimed "open and flexible process", they get
>     captured by whoever can expend the most resources. Norms and
>     structures then can accordingly work to ensure fairness and
>     equity, the values that should be central to progressive civil society
>
>     .... parminder
>
>
>>     and the fact that it hasn't been able to effectively deliver
>>     messages to other institutions has been one of its chief
>>     failings. I also don't blame Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
>>
>>     But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF
>>     (and IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally
>>     institutionalised in some way, so that there is accountability
>>     and legitimacy. It shouldn't just be casually announced that
>>     "I/the IGF have been invited...", as if the distinction is
>>     immaterial.
>>
>>     I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's
>>     that, in my reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG
>>     has engineered this, but rather that it's been done in a way that
>>     deliberately bypassed the MAG, because the MAG is so
>>     dysfunctional that it stands in the way of the evolution of the
>>     IGF, in this and other respects, and Lynn knows this.
>>
>>     But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG
>>     needs to be overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and
>>     bypassed. I support Parminder's call for the CS members of the
>>     MAG to hold it accountable here and to call for the institution
>>     of a proper, transparent and accountable process for the
>>     appointment of formal institutional liaisons between the IGF and
>>     other bodies.
>>     -- 
>>     Jeremy Malcolm
>>     Senior Global Policy Analyst
>>     Electronic Frontier Foundation
>>     https://eff.org
>>     jmalcolm at eff.org <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>
>>
>>     Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161
>>
>>     :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::
>>
>>     Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt
>>     <https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt>
>>     PGP fingerprint: 75D2 4C0D 35EA EA2F 8CA8 8F79 4911 EC4A EDDF 1122
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From williams.deirdre at gmail.com  Sat Jan 20 10:33:55 2018
From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 11:33:55 -0400
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Rather than continuing to speculate should we not write to Lynn, listing
our concerns and asking for her explanation?
Deirdre

On 20 January 2018 at 11:10, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

>
>
> On Saturday 20 January 2018 04:56 PM, Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku wrote:
>
> Can the invitation letter be seen by others? It's possible for the
> invitation to be just for Lynn (because she has adequate credentials to
> deserve personal invitation), but she sees an opportunity in it to make
> some presentations on behalf of IGF. That's what I suspect from the
> clause:
>
>  "I/the IGF have been invited..."
>
> That's IMO also why it looks like MAG was bypassed.
>
> If the invitation is personal, Lynn has every right and all it takes to
> attend the forum and do all the roles she had outlined, but any
> ideas/opinions/arguments she will present and any incidents are strictly
> hers.
>
>
> Yes Chris, it will be good to know, but do note that the email also talk
> about some "two way collaboration between the WEF and IGF" .... this
> doesn't look personal to me at all!  , parminder
>
>
> It doesn't (and can't) follow that because she's MAG chair she'll be
> representing MAG or IGF. If the invitation letter is specifically to IGF
> MAG Chair, then she's entltled to answer the invitation on that capacity,
> after properly informing the constituency. She may or may not seek anyone's
> inputs to what she'll say or do. However, an invitation letter to IGF
> certainly requires a process of determining the person or delegation to
> represent IGF in word and action.
>
> I strongly think it's important for Lynn to explain her use of the forward
> slash between "I" and "the IGF".  Is the invitation letter ambiguous (not
> clear about who's invited)?
>
> CPU
>
> On Jan 20, 2018 4:14 AM, "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday 19 January 2018 11:23 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
> On 19/1/18 5:11 am, parminder wrote:
>
> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
> you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
> is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
> declaring....
>
>
> I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not that I
> think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an official way
> at other international institutions. On the contrary, I strongly believe
> that it should be able to do so,
>
>
> That might be one view, but it was not ever proposed nor agreed to by,
> lets use the term, "IGF community". This is always the problem with so
> called or claimed "open and flexible process", they get captured by whoever
> can expend the most resources. Norms and structures then can accordingly
> work to ensure fairness and equity, the values that should be central to
> progressive civil society
>
> .... parminder
>
>
> and the fact that it hasn't been able to effectively deliver messages to
> other institutions has been one of its chief failings. I also don't blame
> Lynn St Amour for wanting to do this.
>
> But this is not the way to do it! The liaison between IGF and WEF (and
> IETF, ICANN, OECD, WTO...) should be formally institutionalised in some
> way, so that there is accountability and legitimacy. It shouldn't just be
> casually announced that "I/the IGF have been invited...", as if the
> distinction is immaterial.
>
> I do disagree in one minor respect with Parminder and that's that, in my
> reading of what has happened, it's not that the MAG has engineered this,
> but rather that it's been done in a way that deliberately bypassed the MAG,
> because the MAG is so dysfunctional that it stands in the way of the
> evolution of the IGF, in this and other respects, and Lynn knows this.
>
> But that doesn't make it right. If anything, this means the MAG needs to
> be overhauled, not that it needs to be minimized and bypassed. I support
> Parminder's call for the CS members of the MAG to hold it accountable here
> and to call for the institution of a proper, transparent and accountable
> process for the appointment of formal institutional liaisons between the
> IGF and other bodies.
>
> --
> Jeremy Malcolm
> Senior Global Policy Analyst
> Electronic Frontier Foundationhttps://eff.orgjmalcolm at eff.org
>
> Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161 <(415)%20436-9333>
>
> :: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::
>
> Public key: https://www.eff.org/files/2016/11/27/key_jmalcolm.txt
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Jan 20 18:24:06 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:24:06 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
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Hi

Parminder >>>From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair
and members letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific
meetings attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations,
etc and encouraging wider participation from new groups...

Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be involved, why are
the outcomes of the IGF important.

Not the 1st year a MAG Chair goes to WEF and other MAG members participate
on it too.

Other MAG members have also participated in World Social Forum and other
venues.

As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil Society only. She
came from the technical community but as MAG Chair outreaches to all
stakeholders to be involved in IGF, as there should be a balance of
stakeholders participating.

On Chris question if this is an invite to MAG Chair only - yes and it is
the opening of a space to IGF. We should ask for more spaces for IGF and
more invites, more stakeholder dialogue and not less.

On Deirdre's suggestion of communicating with MAG Chair, it is a very valid
suggestion. The MAG list is open archives. Once an announcement is posted
there, it is public, whether or not forwarded to other lists.

I am sure that Lynn would welcome your suggestions as IGF community and IGF
itself has a Taking Stock process announced on the 1st page receiving
contributions until 11feb.

Best,

Renata




On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
wrote:

>
> Hi Renata
>
> From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members
> letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings
> attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and
> encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>
> I do not understand from IGF outreach, from what I understand about the
> IGF, for MAG chair to go to policy or related forums, representing IGF, and
> speaking on substantive policy issues, which one cannot do without giving
> specific views. However, if this is your view of IGF outreach as a MAG
> member, I will like to discuss, and contest, it.
>
> As you would notice from the email from MAG chair, she mentions about
> speaking, by all indications as IGF MAG chair, and representing the IGF, at
> substantive sessions, and indeed chairing co-chairing an WEF initiative....
> Further, i see mention of "two collaboration between the WEG and IGF's
> major policy initiatives ".... I had no idea any such collaboration
> existed. Can MAG members confirm it....
>
> Also, pl confirm if these are considered IGF outreach activities, and
> legitimate roles for the IGF and some people representing them. I request a
> clear response.
>
> And who funds participation and other aspects of these activities, the
> IGF, ( i know that is very unlikely) , private funds of the involved
> people, or the WEF BECAUSE it is the IGF, and co-branding helps? Again,
> please provide this specific information.
>
> Lastly, has the IGF and its MAG ever considered doing outreach to, say,
> the World Social Forum, the WEF equivalent civil society space, or these
> outreaches are only for the big business venues....
>
> Thanks, parminder
>
> On Friday 19 January 2018 08:25 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> This is an outreach action for IGF, same as in other events such as WSIS.
> I do not see how the IGF is modified by anything that goes on in WEF, they
> are different spaces, with different purposes.
> The IGF activities are open to all who wish to participate and propose
> investigative partnerships, dialogues.
> Those involved with the IGF have to integrate in the dialogues the
> communities, to listen as many voices as possible and bring them to be
> represented in outcomes.
> For that, outreach is done.
>
> (This is a personal opinion)
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.
> harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> I strongly second Parminder.
>>
>> Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced member of this community
>> who could contribute to WEF appearing there on her own right. But, invoking
>> her position as chair of the IGF management group, the MAG, violates all
>> that has been hammered out over long years. As Parminder forthrightly notes.
>>
>> Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF mission – to be a
>> neutral clearinghouse for what are sometimes radically opposed views. True
>> neutrality requires being utterly faithful to process of evenhandedness, so
>> ensuring diametrically opposed views feel equally comfortable in the
>> dialogue – so, NOT taking a position.
>>
>> Not to mention the violation of structural arrangements.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>>  "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>
>> To:
>> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>> Cc:
>>
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
>> Subject:
>> Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>
>>
>>
>> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
>> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
>> you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
>> is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
>> declaring....
>>
>> IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive
>> beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO have
>> been criticised (see for instance http://www.twn.my/tit
>> le2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that when the WEF centric
>> Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was invited to join it, but a view
>> was taken that the IGF is not a substantive agency/ organisation to
>> represent any substantive view etc to be a part of such an initiative....
>> So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF now, and "representing the IGF" ......
>> MAG is a program management committee, and it has no role beyond organising
>> the IGF. This has been clarified many time.... (In fact even when some of
>> us wanted to give a more substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG WG on
>> IGF improvements, some of those who are now associated with representing
>> the IGF opposed such a role.)
>>
>> MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way.
>>
>> I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS members
>> of the MAG to explain this to me.
>>
>> thanks, parminder
>>
>> On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits
>> Mailing List) wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>> Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF
>> at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme
>> of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might be
>> interested for you.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> *From:* Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch> <AGENGO at unog.ch>
>> *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
>> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
>> *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos
>> 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the
>> IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Anja
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
>> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org> <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>> From: "Lynn St.Amour"
>> Sent by: "Igfmaglist"
>> Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a
>> Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the
>> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is:
>> "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide
>> on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:
>> https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And,
>> there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues, including an
>> interesting interactive map available through the first panel here:
>> https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the
>> -future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles
>>
>> In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as
>> IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF)
>> meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their
>> “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks
>> as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas
>> (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In
>> addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between
>> the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for
>> Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).
>>
>> As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair
>> the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and
>> Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the
>> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative
>> provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable,
>> inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative
>> action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate
>> progress around six shared global outcomes:
>>
>> 1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography,
>> gender or income) can access and use the internet
>> 2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil
>> society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable
>> digital transformation
>> 3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national
>> policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the
>> transnational nature of digital connectivity
>> 4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals,
>> institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by
>> increasing digital connectivity
>> 5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access
>> and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that
>> enhance their social and economic well being
>> 6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals
>> and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic
>> value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens
>>
>> James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and
>> together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos
>> this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and
>> that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.
>>
>> I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will
>> be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the
>> sessions:
>> - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
>> - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session
>> - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation
>>
>> There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to
>> share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social
>> media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-da
>> vos-2018/
>>
>> Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and
>> MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the
>> secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note
>> this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.
>>
>> Very much look forward to your contributions,
>>
>> Best,
>> Lynn
>>
>>
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From David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu  Sun Jan 21 09:55:39 2018
From: David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu (David Allen)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:55:39 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
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Excerpted –

Parminder wrote:

From ayden at ferdeline.com  Sun Jan 21 11:27:15 2018
From: ayden at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:27:15 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
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Hi, all-

Without commenting on any of the previous messages, I just thought I'd share this post that I saw on AccessNow's webpage today. It seems they will be at Davos bringing a civil society perspective to some of the issues that many of us on this mailing list care about. It seems possible to provide input into the ideas and priorities that AccessNow will be taking to the leaders in Davos:

https://www.accessnow.org/help-shape-message-will-take-leaders-world-economic-forum

Kind regards,

Ayden Férdeline
[linkedin.com/in/ferdeline](http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline)

-------- Original Message --------
On 21 January 2018 2:55 PM, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Excerpted –
>
> Parminder wrote:
>
>> From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>
> Renata then says:
>
>> Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be involved, why are the outcomes of the IGF important.
>
> As Parminder has previously pointed out, a great deal more than this is mooted to occur.  As such, the above is not – yet – responsive.
>
> Renata:
>
>> As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil Society only.
>
> Again, this does not address all the posts about "representation" and appropriate procedure.
>
> More generally, tone can sometimes convey more even than text.
>
> Put most gently:  The essence is to know, and convey by tone, that those in responsible positions serve the constituency – not the other way around.  (Rather than dismissive 'proclamations,') a seeking for consensus, thoughtfully, gently, is the mark of actual, potentially respected leadership.
>
> David
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>>  "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino at gmail.com>
>>
>> To:
>> "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
>> Cc:
>> "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>> Sent:
>> Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:24:06 -0300
>> Subject:
>> Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Parminder >>>From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>>
>> Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be involved, why are the outcomes of the IGF important.
>>
>> Not the 1st year a MAG Chair goes to WEF and other MAG members participate on it too.
>>
>> Other MAG members have also participated in World Social Forum and other venues.
>>
>> As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil Society only. She came from the technical community but as MAG Chair outreaches to all stakeholders to be involved in IGF, as there should be a balance of stakeholders participating.
>>
>> On Chris question if this is an invite to MAG Chair only - yes and it is the opening of a space to IGF. We should ask for more spaces for IGF and more invites, more stakeholder dialogue and not less.
>>
>> On Deirdre's suggestion of communicating with MAG Chair, it is a very valid suggestion. The MAG list is open archives. Once an announcement is posted there, it is public, whether or not forwarded to other lists.
>>
>> I am sure that Lynn would welcome your suggestions as IGF community and IGF itself has a Taking Stock process announced on the 1st page receiving contributions until 11feb.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Renata
>>>
>>> From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>>>
>>> I do not understand from IGF outreach, from what I understand about the IGF, for MAG chair to go to policy or related forums, representing IGF, and speaking on substantive policy issues, which one cannot do without giving specific views. However, if this is your view of IGF outreach as a MAG member, I will like to discuss, and contest, it.
>>>
>>> As you would notice from the email from MAG chair, she mentions about speaking, by all indications as IGF MAG chair, and representing the IGF, at substantive sessions, and indeed chairing co-chairing an WEF initiative.... Further, i see mention of "two collaboration between the WEG and IGF's major policy initiatives ".... I had no idea any such collaboration existed. Can MAG members confirm it....
>>>
>>> Also, pl confirm if these are considered IGF outreach activities, and legitimate roles for the IGF and some people representing them. I request a clear response.
>>>
>>> And who funds participation and other aspects of these activities, the IGF, ( i know that is very unlikely) , private funds of the involved people, or the WEF BECAUSE it is the IGF, and co-branding helps? Again, please provide this specific information.
>>>
>>> Lastly, has the IGF and its MAG ever considered doing outreach to, say, the World Social Forum, the WEF equivalent civil society space, or these outreaches are only for the big business venues....
>>>
>>> Thanks, parminder
>>>
>>> On Friday 19 January 2018 08:25 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>> This is an outreach action for IGF, same as in other events such as WSIS.
>>>> I do not see how the IGF is modified by anything that goes on in WEF, they are different spaces, with different purposes.
>>>> The IGF activities are open to all who wish to participate and propose investigative partnerships, dialogues.
>>>> Those involved with the IGF have to integrate in the dialogues the communities, to listen as many voices as possible and bring them to be represented in outcomes.
>>>> For that, outreach is done.
>>>>
>>>> (This is a personal opinion)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Renata
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I strongly second Parminder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced member of this community who could contribute to WEF appearing there on her own right. But, invoking her position as chair of the IGF management group, the MAG, violates all that has been hammered out over long years. As Parminder forthrightly notes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF mission – to be a neutral clearinghouse for what are sometimes radically opposed views. True neutrality requires being utterly faithful to process of evenhandedness, so ensuring diametrically opposed views feel equally comfortable in the dialogue – so, NOT taking a position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention the violation of structural arrangements.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>   "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>  <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>>  Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>>  Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent, you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even declaring....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO have been criticised (see for instance http://www.twn.my/title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that when the WEF centric Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was invited to join it, but a view was taken that the IGF is not a substantive agency/ organisation to represent any substantive view etc to be a part of such an initiative.... So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF now, and "representing the IGF" ...... MAG is a program management committee, and it has no role beyond organising the IGF. This has been clarified many time.... (In fact even when some of us wanted to give a more substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG WG on IGF improvements, some of those who are now associated with representing the IGF opposed such a role.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS members of the MAG to explain this to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks, parminder
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>> Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might be interested for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Anja GENGO [<AGENGO at unog.ch>](mailto:AGENGO at unog.ch)
>>>>>>> To: ["igfregionals at intgovforum.org"](mailto:igfregionals at intgovforum.org) [<igfregionals at intgovforum.org>](mailto:igfregionals at intgovforum.org)
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
>>>>>>> Subject: [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anja
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
>>>>>>> To: IGF Maglist [<Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>](mailto:Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org)
>>>>>>> From: "Lynn St.Amour"
>>>>>>> Sent by: "Igfmaglist"
>>>>>>> Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is: "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And, there is an ongoing stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF) meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable, inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate progress around six shared global outcomes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography, gender or income) can access and use the internet
>>>>>>> 2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a sustainable digital transformation
>>>>>>> 3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the transnational nature of digital connectivity
>>>>>>> 4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity
>>>>>>> 5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that enhance their social and economic well being
>>>>>>> 6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the sessions:
>>>>>>> - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
>>>>>>> - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session
>>>>>>> - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very much look forward to your contributions,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Sun Jan 21 12:19:35 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:19:35 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
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Hi all

There is a follow-up message by Lynn to this discussion over here

http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/2018-January/013483.html

Best,

Renata


On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Ayden Férdeline <ayden at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi, all-
>
> Without commenting on any of the previous messages, I just thought I'd
> share this post that I saw on AccessNow's webpage today. It seems they will
> be at Davos bringing a civil society perspective to some of the issues that
> many of us on this mailing list care about. It seems possible to provide
> input into the ideas and priorities that AccessNow will be taking to the
> leaders in Davos:
>
> https://www.accessnow.org/help-shape-message-will-take-
> leaders-world-economic-forum
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 21 January 2018 2:55 PM, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Excerpted –
>
> Parminder wrote:
>
> From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members
> letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings
> attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and
> encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>
>
> Renata then says:
>
> Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be involved, why are
> the outcomes of the IGF important.
>
>
> As Parminder has previously pointed out, a great deal more than this is
> mooted to occur.  As such, the above is not – yet – responsive.
>
> Renata:
>
> As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil Society only.
>
>
> Again, this does not address all the posts about "representation" and
> appropriate procedure.
>
>
> More generally, tone can sometimes convey more even than text.
>
> Put most gently:  The essence is to know, and convey by tone, that those
> in responsible positions serve the constituency – not the other way around.
>  (Rather than dismissive 'proclamations,') a seeking for consensus,
> thoughtfully, gently, is the mark of actual, potentially respected
> leadership.
>
> David
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>  "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino at gmail.com>
>
> To:
> "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
> Cc:
> "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent:
> Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:24:06 -0300
> Subject:
> Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>
>
> Hi
>
> Parminder >>>From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair
> and members letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific
> meetings attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations,
> etc and encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>
> Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be involved, why are
> the outcomes of the IGF important.
>
> Not the 1st year a MAG Chair goes to WEF and other MAG members participate
> on it too.
>
> Other MAG members have also participated in World Social Forum and other
> venues.
>
> As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil Society only. She
> came from the technical community but as MAG Chair outreaches to all
> stakeholders to be involved in IGF, as there should be a balance of
> stakeholders participating.
>
> On Chris question if this is an invite to MAG Chair only - yes and it is
> the opening of a space to IGF. We should ask for more spaces for IGF and
> more invites, more stakeholder dialogue and not less.
>
> On Deirdre's suggestion of communicating with MAG Chair, it is a very
> valid suggestion. The MAG list is open archives. Once an announcement is
> posted there, it is public, whether or not forwarded to other lists.
>
> I am sure that Lynn would welcome your suggestions as IGF community and
> IGF itself has a Taking Stock process announced on the 1st page receiving
> contributions until 11feb.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Renata
>>
>> From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair and members
>> letting know other stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings
>> attended for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and
>> encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>>
>> I do not understand from IGF outreach, from what I understand about the
>> IGF, for MAG chair to go to policy or related forums, representing IGF, and
>> speaking on substantive policy issues, which one cannot do without giving
>> specific views. However, if this is your view of IGF outreach as a MAG
>> member, I will like to discuss, and contest, it.
>>
>> As you would notice from the email from MAG chair, she mentions about
>> speaking, by all indications as IGF MAG chair, and representing the IGF, at
>> substantive sessions, and indeed chairing co-chairing an WEF initiative....
>> Further, i see mention of "two collaboration between the WEG and IGF's
>> major policy initiatives ".... I had no idea any such collaboration
>> existed. Can MAG members confirm it....
>>
>> Also, pl confirm if these are considered IGF outreach activities, and
>> legitimate roles for the IGF and some people representing them. I request a
>> clear response.
>>
>> And who funds participation and other aspects of these activities, the
>> IGF, ( i know that is very unlikely) , private funds of the involved
>> people, or the WEF BECAUSE it is the IGF, and co-branding helps? Again,
>> please provide this specific information.
>>
>> Lastly, has the IGF and its MAG ever considered doing outreach to, say,
>> the World Social Forum, the WEF equivalent civil society space, or these
>> outreaches are only for the big business venues....
>>
>> Thanks, parminder
>>
>> On Friday 19 January 2018 08:25 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> This is an outreach action for IGF, same as in other events such as WSIS.
>> I do not see how the IGF is modified by anything that goes on in WEF,
>> they are different spaces, with different purposes.
>> The IGF activities are open to all who wish to participate and propose
>> investigative partnerships, dialogues.
>> Those involved with the IGF have to integrate in the dialogues the
>> communities, to listen as many voices as possible and bring them to be
>> represented in outcomes.
>> For that, outreach is done.
>>
>> (This is a personal opinion)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.
>> harvard.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I strongly second Parminder.
>>>
>>> Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced member of this
>>> community who could contribute to WEF appearing there on her own right.
>>> But, invoking her position as chair of the IGF management group, the MAG,
>>> violates all that has been hammered out over long years. As Parminder
>>> forthrightly notes.
>>>
>>> Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF mission – to be a
>>> neutral clearinghouse for what are sometimes radically opposed views. True
>>> neutrality requires being utterly faithful to process of evenhandedness, so
>>> ensuring diametrically opposed views feel equally comfortable in the
>>> dialogue – so, NOT taking a position.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the violation of structural arrangements.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:
>>>   "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>>
>>> To:
>>>  <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Sent:
>>>  Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
>>> Subject:
>>>  Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I really did not know that IGF had its own agency to represent itself at
>>> other forums. Whom does it really represent? Because when you represent,
>>> you also speak for. For whom does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
>>> is a mission creep which has been done without consulting or even
>>> declaring....
>>>
>>> IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which has a certain substantive
>>> beinghood ..... Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs with WTO have
>>> been criticised (see for instance http://www.twn.my/
>>> title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm ). I remember that when the WEF
>>> centric Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was invited to join it,
>>> but a view was taken that the IGF is not a substantive agency/ organisation
>>> to represent any substantive view etc to be a part of such an
>>> initiative.... So, why is "the IGF" going to WEF now, and "representing the
>>> IGF" ...... MAG is a program management committee, and it has no role
>>> beyond organising the IGF. This has been clarified many time.... (In fact
>>> even when some of us wanted to give a more substantive role to the IGF, as
>>> part of CSTG WG on IGF improvements, some of those who are now associated
>>> with representing the IGF opposed such a role.)
>>>
>>> MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way.
>>>
>>> I dont accept such a representational role. I will request the CS
>>> members of the MAG to explain this to me.
>>>
>>> thanks, parminder
>>>
>>> On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits
>>> Mailing List) wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Just to share an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the IGF
>>> at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, where the theme
>>> of the year is "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”. Might
>>> be interested for you.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> *From:* Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch> <AGENGO at unog.ch>
>>> *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org" <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
>>> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
>>> *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos
>>> 2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> Please see below an announcement from the MAG Chair on representing the
>>> IGF at the 2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Anja
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
>>> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>> <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>> From: "Lynn St.Amour"
>>> Sent by: "Igfmaglist"
>>> Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
>>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a
>>> Shared Future in a Fractured World”
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> I am writing to you as I/the IGF have been invited to participate in the
>>> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.   This year the theme is:
>>> "Creating a Shared Future in a Fractured World”.    Note: There is a guide
>>> on how to follow/“participate” in Davos here:  https://www.weforum.org/
>>> agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/    And, there is an ongoing
>>> stream of content on digital issues, including an interesting interactive
>>> map available through the first panel here: https://www.weforum.org/
>>> system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-
>>> and-society/articles
>>>
>>> In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB facilitators, some DCs, and I
>>> (as IGF MAG Chair) participated in various World Economic Forum (WEF)
>>> meetings/conference calls.   Many were connected to Access and their
>>> “Internet For All” projects, but others were connected to IoT, and Networks
>>> as Platforms, to name only a few.    WEF activities in relevant areas
>>> (where we were aware of them) were flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In
>>> addition, for several years there has been a two-way collaboration between
>>> the WEF and the IGF major policy initiative (IGF Policy Options for
>>> Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s)).
>>>
>>> As mentioned during previous MAG meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair
>>> the Stewardship Board for a WEF Initiative called “Digital Economy and
>>> Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board is convened annually during the
>>> World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  Per the WEF this initiative
>>> provides an opportunity to develop a shared vision for a sustainable,
>>> inclusive, and trustworthy digital future and priorities for collaborative
>>> action.   In particular, the initiative seeks to align and accelerate
>>> progress around six shared global outcomes:
>>>
>>> 1.     Access & Adoption: All people (without differences in geography,
>>> gender or income) can access and use the internet
>>> 2.     Responsible Digital Transformation: Business, government and
>>> civil society leaders act responsibly and competently to usher in a
>>> sustainable digital transformation
>>> 3.     Fit for purpose, informed governance: Global, regional, national
>>> policies are informed by evidence and well-equipped to deal with the
>>> transnational nature of digital connectivity
>>> 4.     Secure & resilient people, processes & practices: All
>>> individuals, institutions and infrastructure are resilient to
>>> vulnerabilities created by increasing digital connectivity
>>> 5.     Robust, interoperable digital Identities: All people can access
>>> and use integrated, inclusive, trusted digital identity regimes that
>>> enhance their social and economic well being
>>> 6.     Benefits from data sharing while respecting privacy: Individuals
>>> and institutions can share data in ways that create social and economic
>>> value while respecting the privacy of fellow digital citizens
>>>
>>> James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and
>>> together, we will be facilitating the Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos
>>> this year.   To the extent that there are activities that are aligned and
>>> that you wish to highlight we would welcome hearing them.
>>>
>>> I am also moderating or speaking at various panels during Davos and will
>>> be reflecting IGF activities, value, values and principles.  Some of the
>>> sessions:
>>> - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
>>> - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All session
>>> - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of Innovation
>>>
>>> There are many common topics of interest and everyone is encouraged to
>>> share view points/submit questions, so please see the link below for social
>>> media info., etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-
>>> davos-2018/
>>>
>>> Note: I am sending this note to last years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and
>>> MAG Chair are not yet formally constituted).  I am also asking  the
>>> secretariat to forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB, etc. and to note
>>> this on the IGF website in order to get the broadest distribution possible.
>>>
>>> Very much look forward to your contributions,
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:20:36 +0530
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On Sunday 21 January 2018 10:49 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
> Hi all 
>
> There is a follow-up message by Lynn to this discussion over here
>
> http://intgovforum.org/pipermail/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org/2018-January/013483.html


So, the use of "I/ IGF has been invited" was incorrect.... There is no
invitation to the IGF.......

She could also clarify what she meant by "two way collaboration between
the WEF and IGF" as mentioned in the previous email..... Could this
important clarification also be got. thanks... parmider
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Ayden Férdeline <ayden at ferdeline.com
> <mailto:ayden at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi, all-
>
>     Without commenting on any of the previous messages, I just thought
>     I'd share this post that I saw on AccessNow's webpage today. It
>     seems they will be at Davos bringing a civil society perspective
>     to some of the issues that many of us on this mailing list care
>     about. It seems possible to provide input into the ideas and
>     priorities that AccessNow will be taking to the leaders in Davos:
>
>     https://www.accessnow.org/help-shape-message-will-take-leaders-world-economic-forum
>     <https://www.accessnow.org/help-shape-message-will-take-leaders-world-economic-forum>
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Ayden Férdeline
>     linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     On 21 January 2018 2:55 PM, David Allen
>     <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu
>     <mailto:David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>>     Excerpted –
>>
>>     Parminder wrote:
>>
>>         From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG chair
>>         and members letting know other stakeholders, including
>>         perhaps at specific meetings attended for this purpose, the
>>         nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and encouraging wider
>>         participation from new groups...
>>
>>
>>     Renata then says:
>>
>>         Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be
>>         involved, why are the outcomes of the IGF important. 
>>
>>
>>     As Parminder has previously pointed out, a great deal more than
>>     this is mooted to occur.  As such, the above is not – yet –
>>     responsive.
>>
>>     Renata:
>>
>>         As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil
>>         Society only.
>>
>>
>>     Again, this does not address all the posts about "representation"
>>     and appropriate procedure.
>>
>>
>>     More generally, tone can sometimes convey more even than text.
>>
>>     Put most gently:  The essence is to know, and convey by tone,
>>     that those in responsible positions serve the constituency – not
>>     the other way around.  (Rather than dismissive 'proclamations,')
>>     a seeking for consensus, thoughtfully, gently, is the mark of
>>     actual, potentially respected leadership.
>>
>>     David
>>
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         From:
>>          "Renata Aquino Ribeiro" <raquino at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>>
>>
>>         To:
>>         "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net
>>         <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>>
>>         Cc:
>>         "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>         <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>&gt &lt"
>>         <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>         <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>,
>>         <governance at lists.riseup.net
>>         <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net>>
>>         Sent:
>>         Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:24:06 -0300
>>         Subject:
>>         Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>
>>
>>         Hi 
>>
>>         Parminder >>>From outreach action for IGF I normally
>>         understand MAG chair and members letting know other
>>         stakeholders, including perhaps at specific meetings attended
>>         for this purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc
>>         and encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>>
>>         Exactly what the WEF will hear: What is the IGF, why be
>>         involved, why are the outcomes of the IGF important. 
>>
>>         Not the 1st year a MAG Chair goes to WEF and other MAG
>>         members participate on it too. 
>>
>>         Other MAG members have also participated in World Social
>>         Forum and other venues. 
>>
>>         As a reminder: the MAG Chair is not representing Civil
>>         Society only. She came from the technical community but as
>>         MAG Chair outreaches to all stakeholders to be involved in
>>         IGF, as there should be a balance of stakeholders participating.
>>
>>         On Chris question if this is an invite to MAG Chair only -
>>         yes and it is the opening of a space to IGF. We should ask
>>         for more spaces for IGF and more invites, more stakeholder
>>         dialogue and not less.
>>
>>         On Deirdre's suggestion of communicating with MAG Chair, it
>>         is a very valid suggestion. The MAG list is open archives.
>>         Once an announcement is posted there, it is public, whether
>>         or not forwarded to other lists. 
>>
>>         I am sure that Lynn would welcome your suggestions as IGF
>>         community and IGF itself has a Taking Stock process announced
>>         on the 1st page receiving contributions until 11feb.
>>
>>         Best,
>>
>>         Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM,
>>         parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>>         <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>             Hi Renata
>>
>>             From outreach action for IGF I normally understand MAG
>>             chair and members letting know other stakeholders,
>>             including perhaps at specific meetings attended for this
>>             purpose, the nature of IGF, its deliberations, etc and
>>             encouraging wider participation from new groups...
>>
>>             I do not understand from IGF outreach, from what I
>>             understand about the IGF, for MAG chair to go to policy
>>             or related forums, representing IGF, and speaking on
>>             substantive policy issues, which one cannot do without
>>             giving specific views. However, if this is your view of
>>             IGF outreach as a MAG member, I will like to discuss, and
>>             contest, it. 
>>
>>             As you would notice from the email from MAG chair, she
>>             mentions about speaking, by all indications as IGF MAG
>>             chair, and representing the IGF, at substantive sessions,
>>             and indeed chairing co-chairing an WEF initiative....
>>             Further, i see mention of "two collaboration between the
>>             WEG and IGF's major policy initiatives ".... I had no
>>             idea any such collaboration existed. Can MAG members
>>             confirm it....
>>
>>             Also, pl confirm if these are considered IGF outreach
>>             activities, and legitimate roles for the IGF and some
>>             people representing them. I request a clear response.
>>
>>             And who funds participation and other aspects of these
>>             activities, the IGF, ( i know that is very unlikely) ,
>>             private funds of the involved people, or the WEF BECAUSE
>>             it is the IGF, and co-branding helps? Again, please
>>             provide this specific information.
>>
>>             Lastly, has the IGF and its MAG ever considered doing
>>             outreach to, say, the World Social Forum, the WEF
>>             equivalent civil society space, or these outreaches are
>>             only for the big business venues.... 
>>
>>             Thanks, parminder 
>>
>>
>>             On Friday 19 January 2018 08:25 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Dear all
>>
>>                 This is an outreach action for IGF, same as in other
>>                 events such as WSIS. 
>>                 I do not see how the IGF is modified by anything that
>>                 goes on in WEF, they are different spaces, with
>>                 different purposes. 
>>                 The IGF activities are open to all who wish to
>>                 participate and propose investigative partnerships,
>>                 dialogues. 
>>                 Those involved with the IGF have to integrate in the
>>                 dialogues the communities, to listen as many voices
>>                 as possible and bring them to be represented in
>>                 outcomes. 
>>                 For that, outreach is done.  
>>
>>                 (This is a personal opinion)
>>
>>                 Best,
>>
>>                 Renata
>>
>>
>>                 On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM, David
>>                 Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu
>>                 <mailto:David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>                     I strongly second Parminder.
>>
>>                     Lynn St.Amour is a highly qualified, experienced
>>                     member of this community who could contribute to
>>                     WEF appearing there on her own right. But,
>>                     invoking her position as chair of the IGF
>>                     management group, the MAG, violates all that has
>>                     been hammered out over long years. As Parminder
>>                     forthrightly notes.
>>
>>                     Most importantly perhaps, that can damage the IGF
>>                     mission – to be a neutral clearinghouse for what
>>                     are sometimes radically opposed views. True
>>                     neutrality requires being utterly faithful to
>>                     process of evenhandedness, so ensuring
>>                     diametrically opposed views feel equally
>>                     comfortable in the dialogue – so, NOT taking a
>>                     position.
>>
>>                     Not to mention the violation of structural
>>                     arrangements.
>>
>>                     David
>>
>>
>>                         ----- Original Message -----
>>                         From:
>>                           "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net
>>                         <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>>
>>                          
>>                         To:
>>                          <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
>>                         <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>
>>                         Cc:
>>                          
>>                         Sent:
>>                          Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:41:39 +0530
>>                         Subject:
>>                          Fw:_[Igfregionals]_Fw:_[IGFmag
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I really did not know that IGF had its own
>>                         agency to represent itself at other forums.
>>                         Whom does it really represent? Because when
>>                         you represent, you also speak for. For whom
>>                         does the it speak, and on what basis? .. That
>>                         is a mission creep which has been done
>>                         without consulting or even declaring.... 
>>
>>                         IGF is not even an agency like the WTO which
>>                         has a certain substantive beinghood .....
>>                         Even WTO's going to WEF and making programs
>>                         with WTO have been criticised (see for
>>                         instance http://www.twn.my/title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm
>>                         <http://www.twn.my/title2/wto.info/2017/ti171233.htm> ).
>>                         I remember that when the WEF centric
>>                         Netmundial Initiative was formed the IGF was
>>                         invited to join it, but a view was taken that
>>                         the IGF is not a substantive agency/
>>                         organisation to represent any substantive
>>                         view etc to be a part of such an
>>                         initiative.... So, why is "the IGF" going to
>>                         WEF now, and "representing the IGF" ......
>>                         MAG is a program management committee, and it
>>                         has no role beyond organising the IGF. This
>>                         has been clarified many time.... (In fact
>>                         even when some of us wanted to give a more
>>                         substantive role to the IGF, as part of CSTG
>>                         WG on IGF improvements, some of those who are
>>                         now associated with representing the IGF
>>                         opposed such a role.) 
>>
>>                         MAG Chair DOES NOT represent the IGF in any way. 
>>
>>                         I dont accept such a representational role. I
>>                         will request the CS members of the MAG to
>>                         explain this to me. 
>>
>>                         thanks, parminder 
>>
>>
>>                         On Friday 19 January 2018 06:05 PM, Imran
>>                         Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List) wrote:
>>
>>                             Dear All, 
>>                             Just to share an announcement from the
>>                             MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the
>>                             2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting
>>                             in Davos, where the theme of the year
>>                             is "Creating a Shared Future in a
>>                             Fractured World”. Might be interested for
>>                             you.
>>
>>                             Best Regards
>>
>>                             Imran Ahmed Shah
>>
>>
>>                             ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>                             *From:* Anja GENGO <AGENGO at unog.ch>
>>                             <mailto:AGENGO at unog.ch>
>>                             *To:* "igfregionals at intgovforum.org"
>>                             <mailto:igfregionals at intgovforum.org> <igfregionals at intgovforum.org>
>>                             <mailto:igfregionals at intgovforum.org> 
>>                             *Sent:* Friday, 19 January 2018, 17:06
>>                             *Subject:* [Igfregionals] Fw:
>>                             [IGFmaglist] World Economic Forum - Davos
>>                             2018 "Creating a Shared Future in a
>>                             Fractured World”
>>
>>
>>                             Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>                             Please see below an announcement from the
>>                             MAG Chair on representing the IGF at the
>>                             2018 World Economic Forum Annual Meeting
>>                             in Davos.
>>
>>                             Best regards,
>>
>>                             Anja
>>
>>
>>                             -----Forwarded by Anja GENGO/UNOG/GVA/UNO
>>                             on 01/19/2018 01:00PM -----
>>                             To: IGF
>>                             Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>                             <mailto:Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>                             From: "Lynn St.Amour" 
>>                             Sent by: "Igfmaglist" 
>>                             Date: 01/18/2018 08:50PM
>>                             Subject: [IGFmaglist] World Economic
>>                             Forum - Davos 2018 "Creating a Shared
>>                             Future in a Fractured World”
>>
>>                             Dear colleagues,
>>
>>                             I am writing to you as I/the IGF have
>>                             been invited to participate in the World
>>                             Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.  
>>                             This year the theme is: "Creating a
>>                             Shared Future in a Fractured World”.  
>>                              Note: There is a guide on how to
>>                             follow/“participate” in Davos here:
>>                              https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/
>>                             <https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/>  
>>                              And, there is an ongoing stream of
>>                             content on digital issues, including an
>>                             interesting interactive map available
>>                             through the first panel
>>                             here: https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles
>>                             <https://www.weforum.org/system-initiatives/shaping-the-future-of-digital-economy-and-society/articles>
>>
>>                             In 2017,  the IGF Secretariat, the CENB
>>                             facilitators, some DCs, and I (as IGF MAG
>>                             Chair) participated in various World
>>                             Economic Forum (WEF) meetings/conference
>>                             calls.   Many were connected to Access
>>                             and their “Internet For All” projects,
>>                             but others were connected to IoT, and
>>                             Networks as Platforms, to name only a
>>                             few.    WEF activities in relevant areas
>>                             (where we were aware of them) were
>>                             flagged to the NRIs, DCs, etc.   In
>>                             addition, for several years there has
>>                             been a two-way collaboration between the
>>                             WEF and the IGF major policy initiative
>>                             (IGF Policy Options for Connecting and
>>                             Enabling the Next Billion(s)).   
>>
>>                             As mentioned during previous MAG
>>                             meetings,  I was also asked to Co-Chair
>>                             the Stewardship Board for a WEF
>>                             Initiative called “Digital Economy and
>>                             Society” (DES).    This Stewardship Board
>>                             is convened annually during the World
>>                             Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos. 
>>                             Per the WEF this initiative provides an
>>                             opportunity to develop a shared vision
>>                             for a sustainable, inclusive, and
>>                             trustworthy digital future and priorities
>>                             for collaborative action.   In
>>                             particular, the initiative seeks to align
>>                             and accelerate progress around six shared
>>                             global outcomes:
>>
>>                             1.     Access & Adoption: All people
>>                             (without differences in geography, gender
>>                             or income) can access and use the internet
>>                             2.     Responsible Digital
>>                             Transformation: Business, government and
>>                             civil society leaders act responsibly and
>>                             competently to usher in a sustainable
>>                             digital transformation
>>                             3.     Fit for purpose, informed
>>                             governance: Global, regional, national
>>                             policies are informed by evidence and
>>                             well-equipped to deal with the
>>                             transnational nature of digital connectivity
>>                             4.     Secure & resilient people,
>>                             processes & practices: All individuals,
>>                             institutions and infrastructure are
>>                             resilient to vulnerabilities created by
>>                             increasing digital connectivity
>>                             5.     Robust, interoperable digital
>>                             Identities: All people can access and use
>>                             integrated, inclusive, trusted digital
>>                             identity regimes that enhance their
>>                             social and economic well being
>>                             6.     Benefits from data sharing while
>>                             respecting privacy: Individuals and
>>                             institutions can share data in ways that
>>                             create social and economic value while
>>                             respecting the privacy of fellow digital
>>                             citizens
>>
>>                             James Smith, President & CEO, Thomson
>>                             Reuters is the other Co-Chair, and
>>                             together, we will be facilitating the
>>                             Stewardship Board Meeting at Davos this
>>                             year.   To the extent that there are
>>                             activities that are aligned and that you
>>                             wish to highlight we would welcome
>>                             hearing them.   
>>
>>                             I am also moderating or speaking at
>>                             various panels during Davos and will be
>>                             reflecting IGF activities, value, values
>>                             and principles.  Some of the sessions:
>>                             - Strategic Outlook: Digital Economy
>>                             - BroadBand Commission - Internet For All
>>                             session 
>>                             - Trustworthy Data: The Foundation of
>>                             Innovation
>>
>>                             There are many common topics of interest
>>                             and everyone is encouraged to share view
>>                             points/submit questions, so please see
>>                             the link below for social media info.,
>>                             etc. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/
>>                             <https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/12/how-to-follow-davos-2018/>
>>
>>                             Note: I am sending this note to last
>>                             years MAG (noting the 2018 MAG and MAG
>>                             Chair are not yet formally constituted). 
>>                             I am also asking  the secretariat to
>>                             forward this note to the NRIs, DCs, CENB,
>>                             etc. and to note this on the IGF website
>>                             in order to get the broadest distribution
>>                             possible.
>>
>>                             Very much look forward to your
>>                             contributions, 
>>
>>                             Best,
>>                             Lynn
>>
>>
>>                             _______________________________________________
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From joly at punkcast.com  Mon Jan 22 13:56:15 2018
From: joly at punkcast.com (Joly MacFie)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:56:15 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] WEBCAST TODAY: Visions of the Internet from Delhi,
 Wuzhen, Geneva, and Everywhere Else @isocdc
Message-ID: <CAM9VJk2iAiYfD7GFtZtA+V2T9pQdBO_XM7b=LtQErW6aP0n7=A@mail.gmail.com>

Those familiar with ISOC-DC events will know that they are not simply panel
events, but involve a lot of lively back-and-forth between all involved.
How they are going to cover all three of these conferences in the limited
time available I've no idea.  4pm!


​​
​

[image: livestream] <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/visions/>On *Monday
January 22 2018* at *4pm* ET the *Greater Washington DC Chapter of the
Internet Society <http://isoc-dc.org/> *(ISOC-DC) presents* Visions of the
Internet from Delhi, Wuzhen, Geneva, and Everywhere Else
<https://isoc-dc.org/visions-internet-delhi-wuzhen-geneva-everywhere-else/>* at
the *Microsoft Innovation & Policy Center
<https://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/venue/microsoft-office-innovation-policy-center-washington-d-c/>
*in
Washington DC. The Chapter will review the proceedings of three recent
major Internet policy conferences, the *Internet Governance Forum
<https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-geneva-switzerland-18-21-december>*
in
Geneva, the *Global Conference on Cyber Space <https://gccs2017.in/>* (GCCS)
in New Delhi, India, and the *World Internet Conference
<http://www.wuzhenwic.org/>* in Wuzhen, China. Special guests are *Robert
Kahn* – Chairman, CEO, and President of the Corporation for National
Research Initiatives, and *Robert L. Strayer*, Deputy Assistant Secretary
for Cyber and International Communications and Information Policy, U.S.
State Department. The event will webcast live on the* Internet Society
Livestream Channel <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/visions>*
and the*ISOC-DC
YouTube Channel <https://www.youtube.com/ISOCDC>*







*What: Visions of the Internet from Delhi, Wuzhen, Geneva, and Everywhere
Else
<https://isoc-dc.org/visions-internet-delhi-wuzhen-geneva-everywhere-else/>Where:
Microsoft
Innovation & Policy Center
<https://enterprise.microsoft.com/en-us/venue/microsoft-office-innovation-policy-center-washington-d-c/>
in
Washington DCWhen: Monday January 22 2018 4pm-5:30pm EST | 21:00-22:30
UTCProgram: https://bit.ly/2DYv90u
<https://bit.ly/2DYv90u>Livestream:
https://livestream.com/internetsociety/visions
<https://livestream.com/internetsociety/visions>YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/ISOCDC
<https://www.youtube.com/ISOCDC>Twitter: @isocdc
<https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=isocdc&src=typd>*

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From st.amour at bluewin.ch  Sat Jan 20 18:23:54 2018
From: st.amour at bluewin.ch (Lynn St.Amour)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 18:23:54 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Fwd: Invitation for Ms Lynn St Amour
References: <EDC92A71-88C8-4C2C-A66C-65DDC706FB2B@bluewin.ch>
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Dear colleagues,

I understand there have been some questions re my participation in the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting.  The invitation I received is below, and I hope this helps clarify the status of my participation.  If not, please let me know.  

While my invitation was not specific to the IGF, I do believe it is important to promote it wherever possible and appropriate.  This is not speaking for the IGF or on behalf of the IGF, but about the IGF - what it is, what it does, why it is important, to encourage participation/support, etc.     Apologies if my phrasing  "I/IGF" was confusing.  It was meant only in this context.

By way of background, I have participated in 6 or 7 World Economic Forum Annual Meetings (Davos), a summer World Economic Forum Davos meeting, several Global Agenda Council meetings, and in many initiatives over the years.   I also served on a Global Agenda Council on the Future of the Internet for several years.   

Happy to respond to any additional questions.

Lynn


> Annual Meeting 2018
> 
> 	
> Davos-Klosters, Switzerland 23-26 January
> 
> 
> Dear Ms St Amour, 
> 
> We are pleased to invite you to the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2018, taking place in Davos-Klosters, Switzerland. You have been invited to participate in the Annual Meeting from 23 to 26 January in your capacity on the System Initiative Stewardship Board.
> 
> The Annual Meeting brings together a global multistakeholder community that is committed to improving the state of the world through public-private cooperation and to shaping the global, regional and industry agendas. The "Spirit of Davos" - the willingness of participants to engage in informal, constructive and practical dialogue - is a quintessential element of this meeting. 
> 
> We particularly want to draw your attention to the Stewardship Board related sessions you are invited to. You will be able to review these invitation(s) and confirm your participation on your personalized event webpage upon registration. 
> 
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From jmalcolm at eff.org  Mon Jan 22 14:56:11 2018
From: jmalcolm at eff.org (Jeremy Malcolm)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 11:56:11 -0800
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On 19/1/18 7:13 pm, parminder wrote:
>
> On Friday 19 January 2018 11:23 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>
>> I actually agree with Parminder on this (yes, it does happen). Not
>> that I think that the IGF shouldn't be able to be represented in an
>> official way at other international institutions. On the contrary, I
>> strongly believe that it should be able to do so, 
>
> That might be one view, but it was not ever proposed nor agreed to by,
> lets use the term, "IGF community".

"The mandate of the Forum is to: ...

(b) Facilitate discourse between bodies dealing with different
cross-cutting international public policies regarding the Internet and
discuss issues that do not fall within the scope of any existing body. ...

(c) Interface with appropriate intergovernmental organizations and other
institutions on matters under their purview. ...

(g) Identify emerging issues, bring them to the attention of the
relevant bodies and the general public, and, where appropriate, make
recommendations."

-- 
Jeremy Malcolm
Senior Global Policy Analyst
Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://eff.org
jmalcolm at eff.org

Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161

:: Defending Your Rights in the Digital World ::

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From ba2482 at columbia.edu  Thu Jan  4 14:20:51 2018
From: ba2482 at columbia.edu (Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 19:20:51 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Reminder: The 2018 Global Freedom of Expression Prize
 Nominations!
Message-ID: <5183966D3F6476479B01A9D26C321B4A015E2AD253@EXPRODMBX01.ais.columbia.edu>

Dear All,

Happy New Year!

I want to remind you that the deadline to nominate legal decisions and legal services for the 2018 Global Freedom of Expression Prizes<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/updates/2017/10/2018-global-freedom-expression-prize-nominations-open/> is fast approaching. But there is still time for you to submit a nomination by January 31st.

Issues such as fake news, online harassment, content regulation, and social media manipulation are dominating discussion over  freedom of expression landscape. This community could highlight model case law or legal arguments to deal with these and other concerns by submitting a nomination for the Prizes. Of course, nominations that deal with offline expression are also welcome.

Anyone can submit a nomination by filling out a Nominations Form<https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GFoEAward2018>. The form is also available en español<https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GFoEPremio2018>.
The nominees are reviewed on the basis of significance of impact on freedom of expression and information, sound legal reasoning, and a global understanding of freedom of expression, including through references to international, regional and non-jurisdictional standards, laws, policies, or jurisprudence. Preference shall be given to decisions and legal service rendered in the last 24 months, although older ones may also be considered. Nominees from around the world are eligible.
General Information about the Prizes could be found HERE<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/prizes/>
Please let me know if you have any questions, and I hope that you could share this message with others in your networks.

Thank you,

Bach Avezdjanov
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Phone: 212 854 1591
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From: Bakhtiyor Avezdjanov
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:10 PM
To: 'bestbits at lists.bestbits.net'
Subject: The 2018 Global Freedom of Expression Prize Nominations

Dear All,

I am delighted to announce a call for nominations for the 2018 Global Freedom of Expression Prizes<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/updates/2017/10/2018-global-freedom-expression-prize-nominations-open/>, which celebrate judicial decisions and legal services around the world that strengthen freedom of expression by promoting international standards. We feel that at a time when freedom of expression is threatened globally, there is a particular need to celebrate victories in defense of this fundamental right. The nominations maybe for decisions or legal services that touch on offline and online expression. In fact, the 2016 Prize for the Best Legal Service<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/prizewinners2016/> went to Turkish lawyers who successfully argued in front of the European Convention on Human Rights that banning access to entire websites amounts to censorship.

Anyone can nominate court decisions or a legal services from around the world that have had a recognizable impact on freedom of expression by filling out a Nominations Form<https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GFoEAward2018>. The form is also available en español<https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/GFoEPremio2018>.
The nominees are reviewed on the basis of significance of impact on freedom of expression and information, sound legal reasoning, and a global understanding of freedom of expression, including through references to international, regional and non-jurisdictional standards, laws, policies, or jurisprudence. Preference shall be given to decisions and legal service rendered in the last 24 months, although older ones may also be considered. We are inviting nominations from jurists, academics, and non-governmental organizations actively engaged in protecting freedom of expression.  Nominees from around the world are eligible.
The Nominations Announcement could be found HERE<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/updates/2017/10/2018-global-freedom-expression-prize-nominations-open/>
General Information about the Prizes could be found HERE<https://globalfreedomofexpression.columbia.edu/prizes/>
Please nominate or share this announcement with your networks!

Thank you!
Bach Avezdjanov
Program Officer, Columbia Global Freedom of Expression
Email: ba2482 at columbia.edu<mailto:ba2482 at columbia.edu>
Phone: 212 854 1591
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From luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 22:39:24 2018
From: luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ver=C3=B3nica_Arroyo?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:39:24 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] The Youth Observatory sends a letter in support of
 ICANNWiki work
Message-ID: <CAMkq76GDDTN5KCZEpGmpigD_faW0XjRznKg-N0i5YeHCyqQkNw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear people,

We, the members of the Youth Observatory SIG of ISOC, are activately
working for participating on the internet building process. As part of the
young people engaged on the internet debates we kindly ask you to consider
the following arguments supporting the work of ICANNWiki.

Our members have been actively engaged in editing the platform despite
having any direct involvement with ICANN.

ICANNWiki gives us remote access to a process of consolidating and building
confidence to keep track of the developments in the field of Internet
governance and DNS policy.

For us, the Wiki plays an important and innovative role in many aspects of
Youth Engagement and Capacity Building on Internet. We believe that cutting
ICANNWiki's funding will have a significant negative impact on ICANN and on
the Internet Governance community.

Please, see the full open letter here (​http://www.obdjuv.org/
activity/news/a-letter-in-support-of-icannwiki​)

P.S. The letter is available in English, Spanish and Portuguese, please
click on the flag to select the language.

Best,

*Verónica Arroyo*
*Vice President*
*Youth Observatory*
@veroluiza
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From raquino at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 10:19:56 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 12:19:56 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] The Youth Observatory sends a letter in support of
 ICANNWiki work
In-Reply-To: <CAMkq76GDDTN5KCZEpGmpigD_faW0XjRznKg-N0i5YeHCyqQkNw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMkq76GDDTN5KCZEpGmpigD_faW0XjRznKg-N0i5YeHCyqQkNw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMokdMyW3odq=ZUag0PhFK9Yu23xE7SEFBEOF2aqBtCMYVbOww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Veronica

Thanks for bringing us the Youth SIG letter.

I find it interesting that this brings up also an important question which
is the management of community resources.

Even though ICANNWiki only sponsored by ICANN, not in its bylaws or
anything like that, it amassed a great number of collaborations from
community members knowledge, over the years. An organization which is
mainly driven by volunteers.

It seems to me the organization has a role as "guardian" of that knowledge
too, which it has been doing acting as a supporter.

So this brings up a question not only related to ICANN but the preservation
of institutional memory and volunteer work.

I do hope the SIG Youth letter is heard and this situation has the best
solution possible.

Best,

Renata






On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Verónica Arroyo <
luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear people,
>
> We, the members of the Youth Observatory SIG of ISOC, are activately
> working for participating on the internet building process. As part of the
> young people engaged on the internet debates we kindly ask you to consider
> the following arguments supporting the work of ICANNWiki.
>
> Our members have been actively engaged in editing the platform despite
> having any direct involvement with ICANN.
>
> ICANNWiki gives us remote access to a process of consolidating and
> building confidence to keep track of the developments in the field of
> Internet governance and DNS policy.
>
> For us, the Wiki plays an important and innovative role in many aspects of
> Youth Engagement and Capacity Building on Internet. We believe that cutting
> ICANNWiki's funding will have a significant negative impact on ICANN and on
> the Internet Governance community.
>
> Please, see the full open letter here (​http://www.obdjuv.org/activi
> ty/news/a-letter-in-support-of-icannwiki​)
>
> P.S. The letter is available in English, Spanish and Portuguese, please
> click on the flag to select the language.
>
> Best,
>
> *Verónica Arroyo*
> *Vice President*
> *Youth Observatory*
> @veroluiza
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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From luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 13:36:36 2018
From: luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ver=C3=B3nica_Arroyo?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:36:36 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] The Youth Observatory sends a letter in support of
 ICANNWiki work
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMyW3odq=ZUag0PhFK9Yu23xE7SEFBEOF2aqBtCMYVbOww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMkq76GDDTN5KCZEpGmpigD_faW0XjRznKg-N0i5YeHCyqQkNw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMokdMyW3odq=ZUag0PhFK9Yu23xE7SEFBEOF2aqBtCMYVbOww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMkq76Fwd+7zdkq7fDFR-vMNZ_72N7N9K1Ve8asQVN_p0FKCuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Renata,

Yes, I agree with you. ICANN Wiki is doing a lot for our community and for
the new generations.

Please everyone feel free to share it, so our voice can be heard.

Thank you,

*Verónica Arroyo*
*Vice President*
*Youth Observatory*
@veroluiza

2018-01-23 10:19 GMT-05:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:

> Hi Veronica
>
> Thanks for bringing us the Youth SIG letter.
>
> I find it interesting that this brings up also an important question which
> is the management of community resources.
>
> Even though ICANNWiki only sponsored by ICANN, not in its bylaws or
> anything like that, it amassed a great number of collaborations from
> community members knowledge, over the years. An organization which is
> mainly driven by volunteers.
>
> It seems to me the organization has a role as "guardian" of that knowledge
> too, which it has been doing acting as a supporter.
>
> So this brings up a question not only related to ICANN but the
> preservation of institutional memory and volunteer work.
>
> I do hope the SIG Youth letter is heard and this situation has the best
> solution possible.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Verónica Arroyo <
> luisaveronicaarroyo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear people,
>>
>> We, the members of the Youth Observatory SIG of ISOC, are activately
>> working for participating on the internet building process. As part of the
>> young people engaged on the internet debates we kindly ask you to consider
>> the following arguments supporting the work of ICANNWiki.
>>
>> Our members have been actively engaged in editing the platform despite
>> having any direct involvement with ICANN.
>>
>> ICANNWiki gives us remote access to a process of consolidating and
>> building confidence to keep track of the developments in the field of
>> Internet governance and DNS policy.
>>
>> For us, the Wiki plays an important and innovative role in many aspects
>> of Youth Engagement and Capacity Building on Internet. We believe that
>> cutting ICANNWiki's funding will have a significant negative impact on
>> ICANN and on the Internet Governance community.
>>
>> Please, see the full open letter here (​http://www.obdjuv.org/activi
>> ty/news/a-letter-in-support-of-icannwiki​)
>>
>> P.S. The letter is available in English, Spanish and Portuguese, please
>> click on the flag to select the language.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> *Verónica Arroyo*
>> *Vice President*
>> *Youth Observatory*
>> @veroluiza
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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From milton at gatech.edu  Thu Jan 25 11:39:20 2018
From: milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 16:39:20 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] ICANN's Whois and the GDPR: change coming?
Message-ID: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

This article about the impending clash between GDPR and ICANN’s Whois service, may be of interest to this group
https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/25/looming-battle-gdpr-purpose-whois-icann/

Dr. Milton L Mueller
Professor, School of Public Policy<http://spp.gatech.edu/>
Georgia Institute of Technology
Internet Governance Project
http://internetgovernance.org/


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From lists at digitaldissidents.org  Fri Jan 26 06:23:30 2018
From: lists at digitaldissidents.org (Niels ten Oever)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 12:23:30 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] ICANN's Whois and the GDPR: change coming?
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <20180126112330.GD2152@mir>

Thanks a lot for this analysis Milton, it is apt and to the point, and above all, made me smile. 

Niels

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 04:39:20PM +0000, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
> This article about the impending clash between GDPR and ICANN’s Whois service, may be of interest to this group
> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/25/looming-battle-gdpr-purpose-whois-icann/
> 
> Dr. Milton L Mueller
> Professor, School of Public Policy<http://spp.gatech.edu/>
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Internet Governance Project
> http://internetgovernance.org/
> 
> 

> ____________________________________________________________
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-- 

Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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From avri at acm.org  Fri Jan 26 08:54:15 2018
From: avri at acm.org (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 08:54:15 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] ICANN's Whois and the GDPR: change coming?
In-Reply-To: <20180126112330.GD2152@mir>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
 <20180126112330.GD2152@mir>
Message-ID: <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org>

Hi,

It is good to see some academia/civil society response to the proposals.
 Most of the comments so far seem to be from the business community.

avri

On 26-Jan-18 06:23, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Thanks a lot for this analysis Milton, it is apt and to the point, and above all, made me smile. 
> 
> Niels
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 04:39:20PM +0000, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>> This article about the impending clash between GDPR and ICANN’s Whois service, may be of interest to this group
>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/25/looming-battle-gdpr-purpose-whois-icann/
>>
>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>> Professor, School of Public Policy<http://spp.gatech.edu/>
>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>> Internet Governance Project
>> http://internetgovernance.org/
>>
>>
> 
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
> 
> 

From avri at acm.org  Fri Jan 26 14:09:53 2018
From: avri at acm.org (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:09:53 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] ICANN's Whois and the GDPR: change coming?
In-Reply-To: <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
 <20180126112330.GD2152@mir> <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org>
Message-ID: <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>

Hi,

I was reminded that I should say something about how to submit comments:

comments on the models should be sent to: gdpr at icann.org. (Details on
the blog  at
https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update-seeking-community-feedback-on-proposed-compliance-models).

And I guess Milton's weren't really comments, but a blog since I do not
think they have been submitted to gdpr at icann.org.

Hope they are.

avri


On 26-Jan-18 08:54, avri doria wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It is good to see some academia/civil society response to the proposals.
>  Most of the comments so far seem to be from the business community.
> 
> avri
> 
> On 26-Jan-18 06:23, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> Thanks a lot for this analysis Milton, it is apt and to the point, and above all, made me smile. 
>>
>> Niels
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 04:39:20PM +0000, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>> This article about the impending clash between GDPR and ICANN’s Whois service, may be of interest to this group
>>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/25/looming-battle-gdpr-purpose-whois-icann/
>>>
>>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>>> Professor, School of Public Policy<http://spp.gatech.edu/>
>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>> Internet Governance Project
>>> http://internetgovernance.org/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
>>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:
>>>      http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:
>>      bestbits at lists.bestbits.net.
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From ian.peter at ianpeter.com  Sat Jan 27 02:39:39 2018
From: ian.peter at ianpeter.com (Ian Peter)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:39:39 +1100
Subject: [bestbits] George Soros comments on Google and Facebook at Davos
In-Reply-To: <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> <20180126112330.GD2152@mir> <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org> <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>
Message-ID: <27CEA0ED6B2D454086C10E46227C5BED@LAPTOP93L8QKEK>

Well worth a read. After a few paragraphs dealing with other substantive 
issues, Soros hones in on the monopolistic powers of Google and Facebook and 
the threats they pose.  He doesn't mince words - and he doesn't 
underestimate the societal impacts of what is going on.

Ian Peter



https://www.georgesoros.com/2018/01/25/remarks-delivered-at-the-world-economic-forum/


From parminder at itforchange.net  Sat Jan 27 03:50:10 2018
From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:20:10 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] [JNC - Forum] George Soros comments on Google and
 Facebook at Davos
In-Reply-To: <27CEA0ED6B2D454086C10E46227C5BED@LAPTOP93L8QKEK>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
 <20180126112330.GD2152@mir> <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org>
 <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>
 <27CEA0ED6B2D454086C10E46227C5BED@LAPTOP93L8QKEK>
Message-ID: <70d787dd-ffa7-f298-142c-8884ab8d227b@itforchange.net>



On Saturday 27 January 2018 01:09 PM, Ian Peter wrote:
> Well worth a read. After a few paragraphs dealing with other
> substantive issues, Soros hones in on the monopolistic powers of
> Google and Facebook and the threats they pose.  He doesn't mince words

Yes, he doesn't mince words, but unfortunately those who need to be the
real watchdogs, the sectoral or IG civil society, does.... and that is
the biggest problem... There is big funding in CS from the same
monopolistic powers, and revolving doors with them too... And if one
speaks up, there are enough direct and subtle ways to shut her/him up...
Hope one day the IG CS will really look back upon itself, introspect and
begin doing what its legitimate role is... Ian, as a respected IG CS
elder, I'd invite you to begin this exercise, and many of us will
cooperate all we can...

In the below quote from Soros's speech, he compares digital monopolies
with oil companies -- but lets ask ourselves, can in the environment (or
any other social) movement the civil society have the same cosy
relationship as the IG CS has with these exploitative digital
companies.... But that precise question is most unmentionable, even when
everyone knows it is just about emperor's clothes that everyone really
knows fully well about, and the corridors are agog with whispers. There
could even be repercussions on me for saying this again -- I am already
imagining some. ....

QUOTE

    Companies earn their profits by exploiting their environment. Mining
    and oil companies exploit the physical environment; social media
    companies exploit the social environment. This is particularly
    nefarious because social media companies influence how people think
    and behave without them even being aware of it. This has
    far-reaching adverse consequences on the functioning of democracy,
    particularly on the integrity of elections.

    QUOTE ENDS

And then he says;

    They claim they are merely distributing information. But the fact
    that they are near- monopoly distributors makes them public
    utilities and should subject them to more stringent regulations,
    aimed at preserving competition, innovation, and fair and open
    universal access.


QUOTE ENDS

Well, it so happens that Just Net Coalition said the same thing exactly
4 years back, in its founding principles
<https://justnetcoalition.org/delhi-declaration> .... But the dominant
CS was all tch tch . (No matter that most progressive groups from most
other areas of global CS joined in.... )  They wont touch that kind of
thing with a barge pole.... Most did not collaborate, and till today
JNC, while it does a lot of work, it is all voluntary, and with not a
single paisa of funding .... This is "structure" my dear....

And hold on, JNC also seem not been able to get even one guy into IGF
MAG, even when one or more have always been forwarded as a nominee for
CSCG. Often JNC nominee is the only one refused.. Bad guys JNC folks
are, right! And then people will clap at Soros's bold speech ,and then
conveniently go back to their works...

Sorry for the cynicism, my critique is also entirely structural, merrily
and happily made, and no personal offence to anyone please....

parminder
> - and he doesn't underestimate the societal impacts of what is going on.
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>
> https://www.georgesoros.com/2018/01/25/remarks-delivered-at-the-world-economic-forum/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Forum mailing list
> Forum at justnetcoalition.org
> http://mail.justnetcoalition.org/listinfo/forum

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From raquino at gmail.com  Sat Jan 27 10:00:27 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 12:00:27 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] Hack the Terra (Hack the Earth) 2018 Giving back -
 Barcelona
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 22:52:54 +0100
From: maxigas <maxigas at anargeek.net>
Subject: [hackademia] Hack the Terra (Hack the Earth) 2018 Giving back
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Hack the Terra (Hack the Earth) 2018 Giving back hacking to the poble

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Hello! We are very happy to inform you that the next 30th and 31st of
March and the 1st of April we held our annual event about technology and
feminisms in Calafou, Hackeja la Terra. This year we want to dedicate
the event to local empowerment, disobedience and popular autonomy.
We want to explore the possibilities offered by free software and
hardware technologies to the rebellion of the earth, of the streets. We
want, in short, that the Hackeja la Terra be an occasion to meet us
again, to continue weaving networks, to create passageways, open roads
and break walls, while we build bridges between activist circles and
between activists and society in general.
We invite you to think critically and practically the current political
moment with workshops, talks and debates. We believe that all this can
not be done if it is not from the local and popular level. Therefore, in
this edition we bring the hack back to people, where it emerged from and
where we believe it is now more necessary than ever.

Throughout February we will confirm activities and publish the info on
our website

Hack the Terra (Hack the Earth) 2018
30 and 31 March and 1 April in Calafou, Vallbona d'Anoia

If you already have clear that this year you do not miss it, please
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From roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca  Thu Jan  4 18:57:50 2018
From: roberta.lentz at mcgill.ca (Becky Lentz)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 18:57:50 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] ICA Pre-conference: Media and Governance in Latin
 America
Message-ID: <D6742973.77698%roberta.lentz@mcgill.ca>




>CALL FOR PAPERS
>
>We are very pleased to announce that the call for papers for the
>official ICA Preconference MediaandGovernancein Latin America *is now
>open*.
>
>*ICA Pre-Conference Media and Governance in Latin America: **Towards a
>Plurality of Voices*
>
>24 May 2018 (Prague, Czech Republic)
>
>68^th Annual International Conference Association (ICA)
>
>*Description:*
>
>The purpose of this pre-conference is to promote an intellectual
>exchange on the way the media interact with social, political, symbolic
>and technological changes in Latin America. More precisely, this
>preconference will analyze the role of the media in enabling the
>expression of a plurality of voices in the region. This ability is
>conditioned by existing communicational and structural legacies; by
>naturalized interactions between social political actors and
>institutions; by media policies and journalistic routines, as well as by
>the impact of digital and technological developments. We welcome
>submissions that explore innovative theoretical and methodological
>approaches to the role of the media in promoting pluralism.
>
>The conference will explore the relationship between media and
>governance from a range of fields in social sciences and humanities,
>such as journalism studies, political communication, global
>communication, digital media, LGBT studies, political science, of
>discourse analysis, among others. We are interested in presentations
>that address, but are not limited to, the following topics:
>
>€ *Theories and Methods: *To which extent can comparative studies
>reinvigorate academic debates beyond the region? How can scholars build
>stronger theoretical and methodological tools for overcoming the ³case
>study² fixation? What are the similarities and differences between the
>study of media and governance in Latin America and in the Global South?
>How can Latin American scholarship contribute to de-westernize media
>studies?
>
>€ *Media Systems, Pluralism, and Good Governance: *Are current media
>systems in the region fostering or hindering the expression of a
>plurality of voices? What is the relationship between media, governance
>and the promotion of a plural debate? How are the news media interacting
>with the state, the private sector, civil society and the public for the
>promotion of a plural debate? What is the role of the media in
>overcoming pervasive phenomena that hinder good governance, such as
>censorship, clientelism, populism, or the concentration of media
>ownership?
>
>€ *Media and Political Representation: *What journalistic practices and
>organizational dynamics favor the inclusion of a plurality of voices in
>Latin America? How are the news media addressing topics that affect good
>governance in the region, such as violence, inequality, or corruption?
>To which extent are digital communication platforms incorporating
>previously marginalized themes (such as racial, gender and class-based
>inequality) and actors (indigenous communities, women, LGBT minorities)?
>Whose voices are more visible when it comes to fostering more inclusive
>media policies?
>
>€ *Communication for Social Change: *What impact are agents of change,
>such as civil society groups, having in the media visibility of a range
>of voices and issues? How are online and offline digital platforms being
>used for giving voice and empowering previously marginalized
>communities? What is the impact of digital technologies and Internet
>access on social inequality, and how is the informational gap being
>addressed in the region?
>
>*Goals:*
>
>The main purpose of this pre-conference is to promote an intellectual
>debate on the role of the news media in the promotion of good governance
>in Latin America. By bringing together senior scholars and young
>researchers, this initiative seeks to provide a space of exchange about
>the theoretical and methodological relevance of current debates. This
>pre-conference aims to address academic debates in the field of global
>media, media and development, and the de-westernization of media
>studies. We are sure that it will provide a forum of exchange for
>scholars from all over the world, and will provide them the opportunity
>to discuss theoretical and methodological approaches, country-based case
>studies, comparative projects and academic collaborations in a
>multi-disciplinary setting.
>
>*Keynote Speakers:*
>
>*Silvio Waisbord *(George Washington University, United States).
>
>*Rafael Obregón *(Communication for Development Section, UNICEF, United
>States).
>
>*Florencia Enghel *(Stockholm University, Sweden).
>
>*Martín Becerra *(Universidad Nacional de Quilmes, Argentina).
>
>*Submission Process and attendance:*
>
>The abstracts (350 words max) should be emailed to
>*conference.mediagovla at gmail.com
><mailto:conference.mediagovla at gmail.com> *by *January 30th*, 2018.
>Authors will be informed of acceptance/rejection decisions no later than
>February 10th, 2018. Accepted abstracts will be posted to the
>preconference website in advance. Authors are expected to attend the
>preconference and present in person.
>
>Full papers of accepted abstracts that the author(s) wishes to be
>considered for publication should be submitted by 30th April, 2018 at:
>*conference.mediagovla at gmail.com
><mailto:conference.mediagovla at gmail.com>*. Paper submission details will
>be provided at a later date. Following the preconference, selected
>papers will be invited to contribute to a peer-reviewed thematically
>arranged volume to be submitted to an international publisher.
>
>Please direct questions on submissions or any aspect of the preconference
>to
>
>*conference.mediagovla at gmail.com <mailto:conference.mediagovla at gmail.com>*
>
>For more information, please visit the official website:
>
>*https://conferences.leeds.ac.uk/mgla2018
><https://conferences.leeds.ac.uk/mgla2018/>*
>
>*Special note: *
>
>The cycle of conferences ŒMedia and Governance in Latin America¹ was
>created in 2014. The three editions of 'Media and Governance' have
>brought together over one hundred researchers in digital media, citizen
>media, investigative journalism and democratization. The conference has
>built a strong network of debate and has led to meaningful research
>collaborations. Furthermore, it has enhanced the role of British
>universities as a meeting ground for academics based in Europe and the
>Americas.
>
>*Organizers:*
>
>Ximena Orchard (Universidad Alberto Hurtado, Chile).
>
>Sara Garcia Santamaría (University of Sheffield, United Kingdom).
>
>J.A. Brambila (University of Leeds, United Kingdom).
>
>Jairo Lugo-Ocando (University of Leeds, United Kingdom).
>
>*Institutional allies:*
>
>School of Media and Communication, University of Leeds, United Kingdom.
>
>Departamento de Periodismo, Universidad Alberto Hurtado, Chile





From willi.uebelherr at riseup.net  Sat Jan 27 16:09:54 2018
From: willi.uebelherr at riseup.net (willi uebelherr)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:09:54 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] George Soros comments on Google and Facebook at
 Davos
In-Reply-To: <27CEA0ED6B2D454086C10E46227C5BED@LAPTOP93L8QKEK>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
 <20180126112330.GD2152@mir> <3ede5d60-f2ea-9949-938c-5cc401fb8b43@acm.org>
 <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>
 <27CEA0ED6B2D454086C10E46227C5BED@LAPTOP93L8QKEK>
Message-ID: <473dc35d-1bf5-181d-e8c4-2de931c79774@riseup.net>

Am 27/1/2018 um 04:39 schrieb Ian Peter:
> Well worth a read. After a few paragraphs dealing with other substantive 
> issues, Soros hones in on the monopolistic powers of Google and Facebook 
> and the threats they pose.  He doesn't mince words - and he doesn't 
> underestimate the societal impacts of what is going on.
> 
> Ian Peter
> 
> https://www.georgesoros.com/2018/01/25/remarks-delivered-at-the-world-economic-forum/ 

Dear Ian,

this text is a big nonsense. George Sorros don't understand the play of 
monopolities.

The background for the establishment of monopols in the sphere of 
telecommunication is the strong activities over all years for 
privatisation. And all state structures do that. Not only from the USA.

The only way to make telecommunication as an open space for free 
information flows ist to bring this under control of the societies. And 
based on the definition for InterNet, the Inter-connection of local 
Net-works, the communities stay on the first position. Not private or 
state instances.

But this perspective George Sorros don't like.

many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay

From raquino at gmail.com  Sun Jan 28 12:40:46 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:40:46 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] ICANN's Whois and the GDPR: change coming?
In-Reply-To: <4c1a31d5-6e98-e76a-943b-54fb904f6118@acm.org>
References: <CY1PR0701MB12745B58AAFF988B6CBC5F0DA1E10@CY1PR0701MB1274.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMokdMzGA_KVfaEeqmYCTUn0fSJ2wb1Ni__X5MCp=bfQUTvjLg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I will agree that the participation of business in commenting about
this has been somewhat overwhelming.

While there is no definition yet of what could be in the details of
GDPR compliance (the layered model), it is possible to observe that
some actors (like IP industry) may continue to voice strongly their
wishes.

On the point of leaving data accessible by law enforcement, it is
impossible not to see how badly this will fare up in the Global South.
Believing law enforcement will always have good intentions and will do
the best to its citizens can truly be something straight out of an
outer space utopia, European based or not.

Best,

Renata


On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:09 PM, avri doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was reminded that I should say something about how to submit comments:
>
> comments on the models should be sent to: gdpr at icann.org. (Details on
> the blog  at
> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-update-seeking-community-feedback-on-proposed-compliance-models).
>
> And I guess Milton's weren't really comments, but a blog since I do not
> think they have been submitted to gdpr at icann.org.
>
> Hope they are.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 26-Jan-18 08:54, avri doria wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is good to see some academia/civil society response to the proposals.
>>  Most of the comments so far seem to be from the business community.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 26-Jan-18 06:23, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>> Thanks a lot for this analysis Milton, it is apt and to the point, and above all, made me smile.
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 04:39:20PM +0000, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>>> This article about the impending clash between GDPR and ICANN’s Whois service, may be of interest to this group
>>>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/25/looming-battle-gdpr-purpose-whois-icann/
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>>>> Professor, School of Public Policy<http://spp.gatech.edu/>
>>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>>> Internet Governance Project
>>>> http://internetgovernance.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 09:41:54 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:41:54 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] Video: Lynn St Armour at WEF
Message-ID: <CAMokdMzaU-4tjOiw7=w3yVJ=cZukkPPkTdpoNvOgnt3tear6Rw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all

Watch here the video of Lynn St. Armour, IGF MAG Chair and long time
WEF participant:

https://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2018/sessions/a0Wb000000AlIZ7EAN

Best,

Renata

From raquino at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 09:59:09 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:59:09 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] Video: Lynn St Armour at WEF
In-Reply-To: <CAMokdMzaU-4tjOiw7=w3yVJ=cZukkPPkTdpoNvOgnt3tear6Rw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMzaU-4tjOiw7=w3yVJ=cZukkPPkTdpoNvOgnt3tear6Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMokdMyy6nh6VgJpp2m_Kk9n8C0D+ZnzU38pU5upkBaqK9JQdw@mail.gmail.com>

Btw, it is a panel on Digital Economy, w/ several participants

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
<raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all
>
> Watch here the video of Lynn St. Armour, IGF MAG Chair and long time
> WEF participant:
>
> https://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2018/sessions/a0Wb000000AlIZ7EAN
>
> Best,
>
> Renata

From nigidaad at gmail.com  Tue Jan 30 02:29:54 2018
From: nigidaad at gmail.com (Nighat Dad)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 12:29:54 +0500
Subject: [bestbits] DRF's 2017 report
Message-ID: <CAEjRXG9UYvALwFaJXGE2Tkyser6FvOxHo+6Vf2tRNJOmO5jAwg@mail.gmail.com>

Apologies for cross posting

Dear all,

I hope you're well, and are having a wonderful new year.

A month into the new year, and all of us at Digital Rights Foundation are
already buried in tons of work in countering issues pertaining to digital
rights in Pakistan and beyond. And as the supporters of the Digital Rights
Foundation, I believe that I have a responsibility to update you about our
activities so we could all move together in working for better digital
rights conditions in 2018.

My team compiled this very colourful and precise Year in Review 2017 report
to give you the summary of what all we did the past year. The report will
take you through multiple activities of DRF that includes the overview of
the Cyber Harassment Helpline's progress and the number of cases that it
has received, along with the stats on the people we reached through the
many events that we organised and attended.

The Year in Review also lists the reports that we have launched, and the
recommendations focusing on issues related to online gender based violence
and data protection and privacy to national and international bodies that
DRF submitted.

It gives me immense gratification to present the DRF Year in Review 2017:
https://digitalrightsfoundation.pk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Year-
in-Review-2017.pdf

It wouldn't have been possible without each one of you and your support.
The trust that you as our partners, stakeholders and well-wishers, have put
in us is irreplaceable, and on behalf of my whole team of DRF, I thank you
for believing in us and for always lifting us up. We know the fight is not
going to be easy, but by supporting each other, we are certain that we'll
overcome every challenge that comes our way. And I hope that you will
continue to support us in the new year and the many new years to come,
because it's you that make DRF what it is today - a small organisation
striving to make a change larger than itself.

Here's to new challenges, new solutions, and a very happy new year!

In solidarity,
Nighat Dad and the team of Digital Rights Foundation
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From bestbits at lists.bestbits.net  Tue Jan 30 09:13:18 2018
From: bestbits at lists.bestbits.net (Imran Ahmed Shah (via bestbits Mailing List))
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bestbits] DRF's 2017 report
In-Reply-To: <CAEjRXG9UYvALwFaJXGE2Tkyser6FvOxHo+6Vf2tRNJOmO5jAwg@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Nighat Dad,
Excellent work, Appreciable
Best Regards
Imran Ahmed Shah
on behalf of Internet Governance Forum of Pakistan&Urdu Internet Society
      From: Nighat Dad <nigidaad at gmail.com>
 To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2018, 12:30
 Subject: [bestbits] DRF's 2017 report
   
Apologies for cross posting 
Dear all,
I hope you're well, and are having a wonderful new year.
A month into the new year, and all of us at Digital Rights Foundation are already buried in tons of work in countering issues pertaining to digital rights in Pakistan and beyond. And as the supporters of the Digital Rights Foundation, I believe that I have a responsibility to update you about our activities so we could all move together in working for better digital rights conditions in 2018.
My team compiled this very colourful and precise Year in Review 2017 report to give you the summary of what all we did the past year. The report will take you through multiple activities of DRF that includes the overview of the Cyber Harassment Helpline's progress and the number of cases that it has received, along with the stats on the people we reached through the many events that we organised and attended.
The Year in Review also lists the reports that we have launched, and the recommendations focusing on issues related to online gender based violence and data protection and privacy to national and international bodies that DRF submitted.
It gives me immense gratification to present the DRF Year in Review 2017: https:// digitalrightsfoundation.pk/wp- content/uploads/2018/01/Year- in-Review-2017.pdf
It wouldn't have been possible without each one of you and your support. The trust that you as our partners, stakeholders and well-wishers, have put in us is irreplaceable, and on behalf of my whole team of DRF, I thank you for believing in us and for always lifting us up. We know the fight is not going to be easy, but by supporting each other, we are certain that we'll overcome every challenge that comes our way. And I hope that you will continue to support us in the new year and the many new years to come, because it's you that make DRF what it is today - a small organisation striving to make a change larger than itself.
Here's to new challenges, new solutions, and a very happy new year!
In solidarity,Nighat Dad and the team of Digital Rights Foundation
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From sheetal at gp-digital.org  Tue Jan 30 13:24:39 2018
From: sheetal at gp-digital.org (Sheetal Kumar)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 18:24:39 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Call for expression of interest: ICDPPC 40th Conference
 Advisory Board
Message-ID: <CAK78muQ6do_w5--pvREDuTBT8SBnoxTj9sDRhgorgz9=HG5+7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

[With apologies for cross-posting] - in case of interest please find below
information regarding an advisory board position which will assist the
organisers of the International Conference of Data Protection Commissioners
(ICDPPC) <https://icdppc.org/>with preparations for the upcoming edition of
the Conference
<https://icdppc.org/news-events/forthcoming-conference-updates/> this year.

I previously shared a joint civil society letter to the organisers of the
Conference and canvassed signatures on this list (prior to the 39th edition
of the Conference in Hong Kong). Thanks to everyone who added their
support. The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) issued a direct
response in December 2017 and it can be found by following the link
provided here:
https://www.europa-nu.nl/id/vkkb6v79c1z3/nieuws/open_letter_to_the_global_civil_society?ctx=vhsih95vppua&tab=0

Best
Sheetal.
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*The European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) will co-host the 40th
edition of the International Conference of Data Protection Commissioners
(ICDPPC) in Brussels from 22-26 October. They are seeking someone from a
civil society organisation based in a non-WEOG region
<http://www.un.org/depts/DGACM/RegionalGroups.shtml> to sit on an advisory
board for the upcoming ICDPPC. The description of the role requires that
the person:*

   - *Be able to dedicate time to liaison and communication with the
      organizers of ICDPPC (EDPS, CNIL, Bulgarian DPA) *
      - *Knowledge about data protection and privacy (and/or currently
      working for a digital rights NGO that also covers these topics)*

* - Ideally be available to attend the Conference in Brussels in October
      (22-26) - Be available to dedicate at least an hour per week to the role
      (and possibly more on an ad-hoc basis) from February-end of the
Conference
      (October 26) *

* Anyone interested in applying should send an email stating their interest
and a short summary of their background, their organisation, their work on
data protection and their knowledge of the tasks at hand to
sheetal at gp-digital.org <sheetal at gp-digital.org> and fanny at accessnow.org
<fanny at accessnow.org> by COB 02 February. All names will be forwarded to
the EDPS for consideration.*


-- 
*Sheetal Kumar*
Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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From parminder.js at gmail.com  Sat Jan 27 03:47:12 2018
From: parminder.js at gmail.com (parminder)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:17:12 +0530
Subject: [bestbits] [JNC - Forum] George Soros comments on Google and
 Facebook at Davos
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Message-ID: <0bf1c785-aba9-0173-a572-b5aa7fb3f542@gmail.com>



On Saturday 27 January 2018 01:09 PM, Ian Peter wrote:
> Well worth a read. After a few paragraphs dealing with other
> substantive issues, Soros hones in on the monopolistic powers of
> Google and Facebook and the threats they pose.  He doesn't mince words

Yes, he doesn't mince words, but unfortunately those who need to be the
real watchdogs, the sectoral or IG civil society, does.... and that is
the biggest problem... There is big funding in CS from the same
monopolistic powers, and revolving doors with them too... And if one
speaks up, there are enough direct and subtle ways to shut her/him up...
Hope one day the IG CS will really look back upon itself, introspect and
begin doing what its legitimate role is... Ian, as a respected IG CS
elder, I'd invite you to begin this exercise, and many of us will
cooperate all we can...

In the below quote from Soros's speech, he compares digital monopolies
with oil companies -- but lets ask ourselves, can in the environment (or
any other social) movement the civil society have the same cosy
relationship as the IG CS has with these exploitative digital
companies.... But that precise question is most unmentionable, even when
everyone knows it is just about emperor's clothes that everyone really
knows fully well about, and the corridors are agog with whispers. There
could even be repercussions on me for saying this again -- I am already
imagining some. ....

QUOTE

    Companies earn their profits by exploiting their environment. Mining
    and oil companies exploit the physical environment; social media
    companies exploit the social environment. This is particularly
    nefarious because social media companies influence how people think
    and behave without them even being aware of it. This has
    far-reaching adverse consequences on the functioning of democracy,
    particularly on the integrity of elections.

    QUOTE ENDS

And then he says;

    They claim they are merely distributing information. But the fact
    that they are near- monopoly distributors makes them public
    utilities and should subject them to more stringent regulations,
    aimed at preserving competition, innovation, and fair and open
    universal access.


QUOTE ENDS

Well, it so happens that Just Net Coalition said the same thing exactly
4 years back, in its founding principles
<https://justnetcoalition.org/delhi-declaration> .... But the dominant
CS was all tch tch . (No matter that most progressive groups from most
other areas of global CS joined in.... )  They wont touch that kind of
thing with a barge pole.... Most did not collaborate, and till today
JNC, while it does a lot of work, it is all voluntary, and with not a
single paisa of funding .... This is "structure" my dear....

And hold on, JNC also seem not been able to get even one guy into IGF
MAG, even when one or more have always been forwarded as a nominee for
CSCG. Often JNC nominee is the only one refused.. Bad guys JNC folks
are, right! And then people will clap at Soros's bold speech ,and then
conveniently go back to their works...

Sorry for the cynicism, my critique is also entirely structural, merrily
and happily made, and no personal offence to anyone please....

parminder



> - and he doesn't underestimate the societal impacts of what is going on.
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>
> https://www.georgesoros.com/2018/01/25/remarks-delivered-at-the-world-economic-forum/
>
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From bzs at theworld.com  Wed Jan 31 17:56:31 2018
From: bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:56:31 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] [governance] [JNC - Forum] George Soros comments on
 Google and Facebook at Davos
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On January 31, 2018 at 18:38 milton at gatech.edu (Mueller, Milton L) wrote:
 >...
 >
 > Civil society groups on the left often fantasize that they will be the ones
 > doing the regulating when they establish forms of centralized control. Got news
 > for you: you will be standing in line behind a lot of other people. The agenda
 > may not play out the way you expect. Before you call for these forms of
 > regulation, let’s see some real economic analysis of how these industries are
 > organized, and perhaps also some signs of effective and well-informed
 > participation in existing forms of multistakeholder internet governance, where
 > at least the environment is open to our participation.

+7B

I once had the pleasure of spending an evening with a Minister of
Information of a let's say not very democratic country.

He was a very nice and interesting person.

Eventually I asked him why freedom of the press was non-existent in
his country?

He told me how I didn't understand, a false news article -- by which
he meant publicly upsetting -- could cause rioting in the streets and
many could die or be injured.

I suggested that may be because you have trained your people that such
"false" news is not possible because you censor it carefully so they
believe everything they read. You have created a huge and
self-defeating vulnerability for yourself.

This was quite a few years ago, his country no longer exists.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

Software Tool & Die    | bzs at TheWorld.com             | http://www.TheWorld.com
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From judith at jhellerstein.com  Fri Jan  5 12:46:48 2018
From: judith at jhellerstein.com (Judith Hellerstein)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 12:46:48 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] Digital Preservation Event in D.C. with Vint Cerf
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References: <63620CE5-1AE1-4FBE-90C4-B91E4ACC1137@isoc-ny.org>
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From mehwish at article19.org  Fri Jan  5 13:23:46 2018
From: mehwish at article19.org (Mehwish Ansari)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:23:46 -0500
Subject: [bestbits] New Briefing Series: Navigating the ITU
Message-ID: <e1add99e-256e-0fff-6fa0-5d683cc0e280@article19.org>

Hi everyone,

I'm writing to introduce ARTICLE 19's new briefing series, /Navigating
the ITU. /We hope that it'll serve as an informative resource for civil
society--both newcomers and old hats--that are interested in engaging in
this space. You can read the first installment in our series,
/Navigating the ITU: Four Routes for Civil Society Engagement/
<https://www.article19.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2018.01.04-Ways-to-Engage-Mini-Brief-FINAL-VERSION.pdf>.
Please feel free to get in touch if you have any questions!

Best,
Mehwish

-- 
Mehwish Ansari
Digital Programme

ARTICLE 19
www.article19.org

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From wisdom.dk at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 14:51:19 2018
From: wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Wisdom Donkor)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 19:51:19 +0000
Subject: [bestbits] Digital Preservation Event in D.C. with Vint Cerf
In-Reply-To: <fb4873e3-9980-efaf-502a-1b42bee9315f@jhellerstein.com>
References: <63620CE5-1AE1-4FBE-90C4-B91E4ACC1137@isoc-ny.org> <fb4873e3-9980-efaf-502a-1b42bee9315f@jhellerstein.com>
Message-ID: <CAAU+vPHPRNR-9n+kZqrL4fky_7npKbp-bHO9UUHyrpcjTBU5=g@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Judith, thanks very much for the information.

On Friday, January 5, 2018, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I thought this might of interest to you. If you are in DC you are welcome
> to join us personally otherwise please tune into our remote viewing of it.
> Please join us in person or online for an invigorating and informative
> conversation, by RSVP-ing here
> <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/digital-preservation-policy-challenges-with-vint-cerf-tickets-41793714124>
> .
> Best,
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
> Hellerstein & Associates
> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
> E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com   Website: www.jhellerstein.com
> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/
> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> We’re excited to announce two upcoming events that may be of interest to
> you:
>
> ISOC-NY, with the support of Google, has embarked on a new project to
> explore and define Digital Preservation principles, protocols, and
> practices. Our program will commence with two events:
>
>    - *January 12th, 12pm - 2:00pm at Google DC — focusing on policy*
>    - *February 5th, 5:30 - 7:30pm at Google NYC — focusing on business /
>    financial motives*
>
> Both events will feature keynotes from Vint Cerf, Chief Internet
> Evangelist for Google.
> This first event is presented in partnership with the Greater Washington
> DC Internet Society Chapter <http://isoc-dc.org/> (ISOC-DC). It focuses
> on the policy aspects of digital preservation: Is there a role for
> regulators? Should there be global standards? Should those standards be
> patent-free? There is much to talk about!
> While in-person participation is recommended, the session will be
> livestreamed via the following channels
>
>    - https://livestream.com/internetsociety
>    <https://livestream.com/internetsociety/isocnydp>
>    - https://www.facebook.com/isocny/
>    - https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/
>
> Remote participation via Twitter: @isocny + #digitalpreservation
> <http://bit.ly/isocnydp>
> Please join us in person or online for an invigorating and informative
> conversation, by RSVP-ing here
> <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/digital-preservation-policy-challenges-with-vint-cerf-tickets-41793714124>
> .
>
> Thanks!
>
> *— *
> Shuli Hallak
> *Executive Director*
> Internet Society - New York Chapter
> http://isoc-ny.org
>
> +1.917.891.1520 | shuli at isoc-ny.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Member, ITAG Member
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From mariliamaciel at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 11:41:00 2018
From: mariliamaciel at gmail.com (Marilia Maciel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:41:00 +0100
Subject: [bestbits] Global Commission call for research proposals - deadline
 19 Jan
Message-ID: <CACpVkK1=k30VnD6uPvWnKhmzEPj4uDPVkceD7xufvS77LjJ3sA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

The Global Commission on the Stability of Cyberspace (GCSC)
<https://cyberstability.org> launched its second request for research
proposals <https://cyberstability.org/news/gcsc-request-for-proposals/>
(RFP) on the following 4 topics:



   1. Adaptations to Enhance the Stability of Cyberspace;
   2. Impact of Technological Developments;
   3. Beyond the UN GGE;
   4. Defining Offensive Cyber Capabilities.


More details about modalities, how to apply and financial compensation can
be found in the RFP
<https://cyberstability.org/news/gcsc-request-for-proposals/>. However, if
you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact me. The
deadline for applications is *January 19. *



The GCSC aims to foster the development of norms and policy coherence that
will strengthen the security and stability of cyberspace. In November, the
GCSC issued a call <https://cyberstability.org/research/call-to-protect/>
to all stakeholders to protect the public core of the Internet,
safeguarding the general availability and integrity of the Internet.


In addition, the GCSC has 4 research advisory groups, organised in mailing
lists <https://cyberstability.org/about/> open to the participation of all
interested. These lists are dedicated to discuss legal, technical and
governance aspects that concern the stability of cyberspace. Newcomers are
more than welcome.


All the best regards,

Marilia
Research Deputy Chair of the Advisory Group on Internet Governance
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From raquino at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 16:08:05 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:08:05 -0300
Subject: [bestbits] IGF Community Public Consultation - Taking Stock
Message-ID: <CAMokdMzsO817Vv7RHHYBxCfHD=oYqD_4N_+1OGiBYkOm7YZN5w@mail.gmail.com>

https://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-community-public-consultation-call-for-inputs-taking-stock-of-the-2017-work-programme-0

IGF Community Public Consultation: Call for Inputs - Taking stock of
the 2017 work programme and 12th IGF and suggestions for 2018 and 13th
IGF

All IGF stakeholders are invited to submit inputs to the IGF
Secretariat related to the following questions:

A) Taking stock of 2017 programming, preparatory process, community
intersessional activities and the 12th annual IGF: What worked well?
What worked not so well?

B) Suggestions for improvements in 2018? (programming, preparatory
processes, community intersessional activities and improvements for
13th annual meeting)

All inputs should be sent to takingstock_at_intgovforum_dot_org by 11
February 2018. Submissions will be uploaded to the IGF website and
made public.

In keeping with previous years, the Secretariat will produce a
synthesis paper of all contributions received by the deadline, which
will serve as an input to the 1st face-to-face Open Consultations and
MAG Meeting of the 2018 IGF preparatory process.