[bestbits] [governance] Fwd: [JNC - Forum] US-China digital cold war is well and truly under-way

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Mon Apr 30 04:14:00 EDT 2018

On Monday 30 April 2018 01:16 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> So what do you propose, introducing a narrow and slanted Chinese POV
> (which does rather smack of propaganda) as some sort of balance?

Suresh, I have not ever responded to your emails for many many years now
bec our exchanges have tended not to go very well... But in the interest
of seeking a new beginning for these IG civil society spaces, I'd make
an exception.

No, I do not propose introducing any "narrow and slanted Chinese POV" to
try and balance.... BTW, the referred article which you say smacks of
propaganda comes from Milton Mueller led IGP's (Internet Governance
Project) website, and there have been similar articles on that website,
and  I understand it is within overall IGP's policy direction.... I do
not think anyone can plausibly characterise IGP's policy orientation as
being of promoting Chinese propaganda!

On the other hand, as my note below characterising China as one of the
global digital power seeking to dominate the world shows, I am equally
critical of China's digital imperial tendencies.. For instance I wrote
this oped on China's global e-commerce ambitions
And a few  hours back forwarded to another elist this article as a major
horror in the making

What I propose is developing and implementing a genuinely global public
interest oriented strategy, with a marked partiality towards the weaker
and disadvantaged groups (as civil society should always take) -- and in
this regard to recognise and discard the habitual pro US-led western
powers and big business aligned stands that global civil society in IG
has become accustomed to take...

> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:05 PM +0530, "parminder"
> <parminder at itforchange.net <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>     And it is not old history at all....
>     Just now I see this call by OECD for a global dialogue on AI 
>     https://www.oecd-forum.org/users/42484-douglas-frantz/posts/21562-artificial-intelligence-why-a-global-dialogue-is-critical
>     But reading on one realises that with a global dialogue, OECD
>     means not a UN based one, where are countries are equal, but an
>     OECD led dialogue...  (which IG civil society has customarily
>     cheered and participated in, while condemning any possible UN process)
>     One squirms to hear so many calls now-a-days for global dialogues,
>     rules and agreements, just as an example, Wired carries one such
>     all today "Data protection standards need to be global
>     <https://www.wired.com/story/data-protection-standards-need-to-be-global>"
>     ... There are others on AI, and so on...
>     But wait a minute, was it not just this January of 2018, that the
>     UN WG on Enhanced Cooperation (on International Internet-related
>     polices) closed without a report because not only the western
>     countries and the big business but also the Internet community and
>     much of IG civil society could not agree there really were
>     Internet/ digital governance issues that needed global addressing
>     (other than perhaps as they were already being addressed by the
>     OECD, World Economic Forum and the such)....
>     And the only comment one heard was from Milton at the IGP cheering
>     the failure of the WG on enhanced cooperation! Not another word on
>     the subject by anyone...
>     Is there any global civil society in any other area which is so
>     bereft of ideas, imagination, forward-looking proposals, much less
>     of accountability and progressive notions like working for the
>     weakest, social justice, economic rights, and so on.... Could we
>     yet reassemble and take up our responsibilities...
>     parminder
>     On Monday 30 April 2018 12:50 PM, parminder wrote:
>>     I hardly ever post to these lists now-a-days, because rarely are
>>     substantive issues posted here in any case, but thought of
>>     forwarding this because this refers to my - by now, favourite :)
>>     - issue of pointing to the culpability of civil society actors in
>>     the IG space over the last one decade or so in being partisan to
>>     narrow US led western interests and having considerably forgotten
>>     to promote global public interest, and the interests of the
>>     weakest sections, groups and countries. And, as often happens in
>>     the mid to long term, such partisanship is no longer serving even
>>     western interests that well.
>>     My posting and engagement on this issue are aimed at proposing
>>     and promoting an effort at a collective rethink and
>>     re-orientation among the IG civil society about its politics and
>>     role, as we enter a digital society where Internet or digital
>>     governance is one of the most important political subjects.
>>     parminder
>>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>     Subject: 	[JNC - Forum] US-China digital cold war is well and
>>     truly under-way
>>     Date: 	Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:34:50 +0530
>>     From: 	parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>
>>     Reply-To: 	Internet governance related discussions
>>     <forum at justnetcoalition.org>
>>     To: 	Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org <forum at justnetcoalition.org>
>>     As in the earlier times, cold war alignments were determined by,
>>     or determined, where a country acquired its armaments from, in
>>     the digital cold war there is going to be a similar schism in
>>     terms of whose digital security equipment you finally trust and
>>     buy, as everything gets underpinned by the 'digital'.... Coupled
>>     with the  "digital security" based polarisation will be data
>>     flows polarisation -- EU is determining adequacy tests about
>>     where its data can flow to, the new US CLOUD Act is determining
>>     adequacy test about which countries can access data residing in
>>     the US for regulatory and law enforcement purposes.....
>>     We were headed towards such a polarisation when, over the last
>>     decade or so, we rejected global institutions and agreements for
>>     Internet and digital governance... What is significant is the
>>     role that civil society groups played in such rejection, and thus
>>     must share the blame of the oncoming digital polarisation which
>>     leaves all countries that are not the US and China at the abject
>>     mercy of these digital super powers ... parminder
>>     internetgovernance.org
>>     <https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/04/29/a-chinese-perspective-on-the-growing-high-tech-cold-war/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+internetgovernance%2FabwE+%28IGP+Blog%29>
>>       A Chinese Perspective on the Growing High-Tech Cold War
>>     by Jinhe Liu
>>     9-12 minutes
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     In Chinese online discussions, many people are using the
>>     expression “one sword throat-slashing strike.” [一剑封喉] This
>>     forbidding term refers to the United States’ seven-year export
>>     ban on China’s second-largest telecom supplier, ZTE
>>     <https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2018/04/secretary-ross-announces-activation-zte-denial-order-response-repeated>,
>>     which threatens its very existence and has put the company “in a
>>     state of shock.
>>     <http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us-government-ban-extremely-unfair-vows-fight-its-rights>”
>>     In the Chinese language, the “one sword throat-slashing strike”
>>     means that in battle a master swiftly strikes a death blow before
>>     the victim has a chance to resist. Chinese use of this idiom with
>>     high frequency in the context of the Sino-US trade war shows that
>>     there is both a feeling of helplessness and a fighting atmosphere
>>     dispersing though the Chinese society.
>>     In January this year, the United States blocked Chinese tech
>>     company Alibaba’s acquisition of American remittance company
>>     MoneyGram; also in the name of national security it forced AT&T
>>     to end cooperation with Huawei. At the same time, the Trump
>>     administration ordered high tariffs on imported steel and
>>     aluminum and threatened several rounds of tariffs on China. On
>>     March 22nd, Trump signed the presidential memorandum and
>>     announced the Section 301 investigation of China, which was
>>     widely regarded as the focus of the outbreak of trade disputes
>>     between China and the United States. In April 16th, the United
>>     States launched its “throat-slashing strike” on ZTE. While some
>>     analysts are still discussing whether a Sino-US trade war will
>>     happen, on the other side of the Pacific the war fire has already
>>     begun to burn, as a sense of economic conflict develops between
>>     the two largest economies in the world. The /New York Times
>>     Chinese version/characterized the Sino-US dispute over technology
>>     and trade as a “New Cold War Era
>>     <https://cn.nytimes.com/business/20180326/trump-china-tariffs-tech-cold-war/>.”
>>     After the news of the US sanctions on ZTE came on April 16, all
>>     of China is engaged in a big discussion of this event. A large
>>     number of articles about it emerge in the mainstream media and
>>     social media platforms every day. The strength of the reaction
>>     have probably exceeded the expectations of American society, and
>>     even China’s own. On the whole, Chinese society has discovered
>>     that its high-tech industry is weak and unable to resist the US
>>     punch, especially because of its dependence on US semiconductors.
>>     It has been pointed out that none of the 20 top semiconductor
>>     companies in the world is in mainland China (see the table below,
>>     which shows only the top 10). Civil society, academia, industry,
>>     and even the government are contemplating the fragility of
>>     China’s industrial development and trying to provide effective
>>     solutions. The fact that ZTE violated American law has not been
>>     evaded in China. But China fears  that just as a few days ago
>>     America launched a precise strike against Syria, the United
>>     States is now launching an accurate and fatal strike to Chinese
>>     national enterprises.
>>     After ZTE’s violation of the embargo two years ago, it has paid
>>      892 million US dollars for its mistakes and has reached a
>>     settlement agreement with the US government. Because this strong
>>     penalty against ZTE was closely followed by the fierce Sino-US
>>     tariff war, Chinese people do not believe that America’s main
>>     concern is just ZTE’s violation of the sanctions. According to
>>     the /Wall Street Journal/, the US Trade Representative Office
>>     (USTR) is considering actions against the business of Alibaba
>>     Cloud
>>     <https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-is-examining-ways-to-retaliate-against-chinese-restrictions-on-u-s-tech-companies-1523910784?>in
>>     the US. A US congressional report
>>     <https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/Interos_Supply%20Chain%20Vulnerabilities%20from%20China%20in%20U.S.%20Federal%20ICT.pdf>also
>>     accuses other Chinese companies, such as Huawei and Lenovo, of
>>     facilitating commercial espionage. The latest news shows that the
>>     US Justice Department has launched an investigation
>>     <https://www.wsj.com/articles/huawei-under-criminal-investigation-over-iran-sanctions-1524663728>into
>>     whether Huawei breaks the Iran embargo. This series of actions
>>     make the Chinese worry that ZTE is just the first step in a
>>     bigger war.
>>     Americans may not realize that these actions can be
>>     counterproductive. They provoke nationalistic sentiment in
>>     Chinese society. In history, whenever China has encountered
>>     damaging and perceived unfair treatment from outside, there was
>>     always a strong nationalistic reaction. Signs of this familiar
>>     pattern are appearing again. On April 6, China’s central news
>>     agency used very tough words and phrases after the extra tariff
>>     on China’s $100 billion exports to the US was announced, such as
>>     “the Chinese will struggle resolutely! And do not blame us for
>>     not having forewarned you!” [勿谓言之不预!] These words are
>>     generally used for the announcement of a war in Chinese
>>     diplomatic rhetoric. The ZTE chairman said that “we have the
>>     support of 1.3 billion (Chinese) people, and we have the ability
>>     and determination to tide over this difficulty,” after Hou
>>     Weigui, the founder of ZTE, retired and at 76 years old, rushed
>>     to the United States to plead but without any fruit, which
>>     aroused huge empathy by a picture
>>     <https://m.21jingji.com/article/20180419/herald/2778441bb91bbbe0189f188b09405445.html>spread
>>     widely in WeChat, the biggest social media in China . Then ZTE
>>     further issued a statement
>>     <http://www.zte.com.cn/global/about/press-center/news/201804CZY/20180420-1>that
>>     the sanction was “unacceptable.” Subsequently, a spokesman for
>>     China’s Ministry of Commerce also made a strong statement, saying
>>     that China is “ready to take necessary measures to safeguard the
>>     legitimate rights and interests of Chinese enterprises.” Chinese
>>     netizens even began to discuss whether the country should take
>>     corresponding measures on Apple, widely quoting an article in
>>     Forbes
>>     <https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2018/04/18/study-what-if-china-bans-apple-to-retaliate-for-u-s-sanctions-against-huawei-zte/#49d1bf0b1e5d>which
>>     suggests that if China retaliates against Apple, it will cause
>>     massive layoffs and crash in its stock price.
>>     The US moves have also encouraged high-level political leaders in
>>     China to push for abandoning American products and developing
>>     their own high-tech industries. Chinese President Xi Jinping
>>     stressed on April 21stthat “core technology is the pillar of the
>>     country” at the national network security and information
>>     conference. And the Premier Li Keqiang also spoke at the
>>     Executive meeting of the State Council to promote a national
>>     innovation system aiming at science and technology development.
>>     In fact, Chinese are concerned not only about the economic losses
>>     of the US sanctions, but also about inadequate self-protection,
>>     and, what is more, about the future of international trade.
>>     In a more profound context, these actions of China and the United
>>     States are not only solutions to the trade deficit, but an
>>     abandonment of globalization. Since the end of the US-Soviet Cold
>>     War, the world entered a golden age of “neoliberal”
>>     globalization. International trade promoted the growth of the
>>     world economy. According to the statistics of the World Bank
>>     <https://www.wto.org/english/res_e/statis_e/wts2017_e/WTO_Chapter_03_e.pdf>,
>>     whereas the average growth rate of world trade in goods was 1.5
>>     times that of the world’s GDP since the end of World War II, and
>>     in the 1990s trade grew more than twice as fast as GDP. Trade
>>     exchanges between China and the United States have brought great
>>     benefits to both sides. The low-cost manufacturing industry in
>>     China provides a continuous supply for the high consumption
>>     society of the United States. The huge demand and advanced
>>     industrial technology of the United States have brought a strong
>>     pull to the Chinese economy. While the order of economic
>>     globalization was established by the United States, it is now the
>>     United States who destroys it. Today’s trading system is so
>>     closely intertwined that it is not all beneficial for the US to
>>     undermine the order it built. The share prices of ZTE’s U.S.
>>     suppliers fell on the news of the ZTE ban. Research by Brookings
>>     <https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/04/09/how-chinas-tariffs-could-affect-u-s-workers-and-industries/>also
>>     points out that China’s proposed tariffs would affect about 2.1
>>     million jobs spread across 2,783 US counties.
>>     The damage wrought to the Sino-US economy and the global economy
>>     by a trade war will be huge, but it is even more worrying that
>>     the global free trade order is being disrupted. On the Boao Asia
>>     Forum on April 10th, Xi Jinping announced further opening up
>>     <https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/business/xi-jinping-china-trade-boao.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=D31A11675F599E1C6551FFB29003BCA7&gwt=pay>of
>>     the Chinese market and strengthening the protection of
>>     intellectual property to integrate China deeper into the world
>>     trade system. But the Trump administration seems to ignore this
>>     deliberately. As mentioned above, Chinese society is worried
>>     mainly about the prospect of its national development in the
>>     context of the times. Therefore, if more trade wars happen, it is
>>     not only likely to lead to China’s aggressive self-protection
>>     measures but also is likely to have a far-reaching impact on how
>>     Chinese understand international rules. Solving the impartiality
>>     of trade rules is a process that requires stakeholders to sit
>>     down and negotiate. A direct blockade might well backfire.
>>     If we look at the Sino-US trade dispute from the perspective of
>>     Internet governance, it can be found that the Internet seems to
>>     be splitting up. A one-world Internet should be interconnected
>>     across the borders of states, but now territorial governments are
>>     trying to strengthen their control by aligning the Internet with
>>     national jurisdictions. China has selectively rejected the
>>     products of some American Internet giants, and now, the United
>>     States has also begun to block China’s products. The United
>>     States is becoming Chinese
>>     <https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/01/05/cfius-blocks-deal-u-s-becoming-chinese/>.
>>     The state has labeled Internet equipment one by one and excludes
>>     it from its own territory in the name of national security or the
>>     protection of its own industries. Some commentaries assert that
>>     the actions by the United States against Huawei and ZTE are
>>     trying to keep the US the leading position in the 5G technology.
>>     But the establishment of walls to exclude competition deviates
>>     from liberalism. The United States is a strong advocate of the
>>     freedom of the Internet. It developed the multi-stakeholder
>>     model, advocated bottom-up technical autonomy and open industrial
>>     competition; it has resisted giving governments too much control
>>     of the Internet. But now, on the contrary, the government of the
>>     world’s most powerful Internet country is holding high the banner
>>     of national security to expel market actors who place it at a
>>     competitive disadvantage.
>>     When the advocates of rules break the rules, global confidence is
>>     badly damaged. But it is still hopeful that United States
>>     Secretary of the Treasury Mnuchin is on his way to China to
>>     negotiate. So the rule of free trade and Internet openness has
>>     not been completely abandoned yet.
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