[bestbits] [governance] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat Participants
Marianne Franklin
m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
Fri Jun 24 04:40:36 EDT 2016
+1 from me
MF
On 24/06/2016 07:52, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to go back to the point on remote participation. First of
> all, if there is one remote participant listed, the infrastructure to
> enable remote participation is obviously in place. It is just a matter
> of opening and scaling it to allow others to connect. Secondly, the
> issue of allowing or not remote participation in meetings of limited
> membership has been extensively debated in CSTD WGs. It was a very
> important step to see the meetings of the WGEC being open to
> observers, both physically and remotely through WebEx.
>
> It seems inconceivable to me that we take such a significant step
> backwards in terms of transparency and that we give up the openness
> that others before us worked so hard to achieve. Transparency and
> accountability are pillars that all organisations and bodies should
> abide by. It should not matter if the meeting is being held by IGF,
> CSTD or DESA. I hope that our civil society representatives in MAG
> will be able to influence a final decision. A joint letter could also
> be helpful at this moment.
>
> All the best wishes,
> Marilia
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for mentioning gender balance and sending in these numbers.
> It is great to know the CSCG had an eye for this and sent a
> message about the disparity of male/female participation.
>
> I`d like just to clarify that my comments about being worried
> about the process converge with a general ask for greater clarity
> and participation on the debate about the next 10 years of the
> IGF. All that is being discussed just reaffirms that the majority
> of civil society wants to participate on this debate, considering
> or not its start on retreat.
>
> My congratulations to Sala and Nnenna have been expressed in other
> discussion spaces, as well as to all CS representatives. If not,
> here they go again.
>
> On the spirit of moving forward, CS groups have much more to plan
> in relation to perspectives on internet governance. We all hope to
> have some news to share on this soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 6:47 PM, Ian Peter ian.peter at ianpeter.com
> <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>
> If I may just touch on three things mentioned here:
> Firstly, submissions to the IGF Retreat close June 30. Is
> anyone planning a submission? It’s one way to get things on
> the agenda. CSCG is doing a submission, but in line with its
> brief it will only talk about cleaning up the MAG nomination
> processes. ( we will make it public when it is finalised). But
> I would encourage other submissions, that is one way to get
> matters of concern on the table. I think the chance of a whole
> of civil society submission is remote with only a week to go,
> so groups perhaps should take the opportunity to submit
> individually.
> Secondly, one of the things the CSCG submission will raise is
> gender balance. A point we will be making is that the
> continual habit of adjusting civil society participation to
> give the appearance of better gender balance overall does not
> solve the problem of sexual discrimination, and all
> stakeholders need to be required to look more carefully at
> gender balance within their own selections. As an example,
> looking at the overall balance among stakeholders for this
> meeting you get something like
> Civil Society 5 – 1 male 4 female
> Private Sector 5 – 3 male 2 female
> Tech Community 5 – 4 male 1 female
> Government and intergovernental 26 – 23 male, 3 female
> Overall – 31 male, 10 female
> (havent double checked my figures but they wont alter much
> from that) Clearly relying on civil society to provide better
> gender balance is doing nothing to solve the underlying problem.
> And thirdly – just to clarify CSCG endorsements in this
> process. There was never any dispute about Lea Kaspar, Stuart
> Hamilton and Anriette Esterhuysen attending, as the direct
> nominees of CS MAG and CSCG respectively. However, after some
> protests from our side about the process, UNDESA did
> eventually ask us to endorse the nominations of Sala and
> Nnenna – neither of whom in the messy and duplicative process
> they adopted were among the names originally considered by
> CSCG. These names were suggested by UNDESA to improve overall
> geographic and gender balance. The CSCG Nomcom did decide to
> endorse both Sala and Nnenna in the circumstances. Both are of
> course excellent civil society representatives, and it should
> be clear that CSCG is supportive of all the civil society
> attendees at the retreat – if genuinely concerned about the
> messy way the process was conducted.
> Ian Peter
> *From:* Renata Aquino Ribeiro <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:54 AM
> *To:* williams.deirdre at gmail.com
> <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* James Gannon <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net> ; Nnenna
> Nwakanma <mailto:nnenna75 at gmail.com> ; Lea Kaspar
> <mailto:lea at gp-digital.org> ; Matthew Shears
> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org> ; Best Bits
> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net> ; Internet Governance
> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org> ; JNC Forum
> <mailto:forum at justnetcoalition.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF
> Retreat Participants
> Hi
> (Apologies I have no idea if my msg gets out to JNC, pls fwd
> if appropriate)
> I'm not sure if being loud or making noise has done the best
> it could so far.
> I agree we should agree, as CS, on some topics but I also see
> the challenge on that, being CS (fortunately) a diverse group.
> The topic of remote participation, for instance, has had some
> news in this last call, as Lea has expressed.
> The twitter like updates remain.
> The streaming - even if partial - seems to be an idea which
> has been dropped for the moment.
> As for the balance in SG representation on the retreat, from
> the list one can easily see that CS numbers are low. Even more
> worrying, CSCG nominees number are even lower. That when
> compared, for instance, with the numbers of gov and intergov.
> I was reminded that even though CS is participating on
> retreat, each one of its participants is there on their own
> personal capacity, not those of their organization.
> So, while this makes it clearer fo the CS rep to express their
> thoughts, also takes us back to the original question: what,
> if any, does CS as a group have to do with the next 10 years
> of the IGF and how should it go about it?
> Just a quick addition: I find twitter updates way more able to
> interpretation and polemic than streaming of a meeting, so I
> do not understand very well the choice there. What isn`t
> spoken has much more power than what is out there in the open.
> Best,
> Renata
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 1:42 PM, Deirdre Williams
> williams.deirdre at gmail.com <mailto:williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Particularly in the cause of transparency and inclusion
> this discussion should be happening as widely as possibly
> among civil society. With apologies I have therefore
> copied to IGC and JNC. Perhaps others can spread the word
> further to as much of "global civil society" as possible,
> since all of us speaking together would have a VERY loud
> voice that would demand attention.
> Best wishes
> Deirdre
> On 21 June 2016 at 12:27, James Gannon
> <james at cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> wrote:
>
> Just my 2c but I don’t think it should really be a
> negotiation, I know I may be naïve in certain aspects
> of the IGF working methods but open and transparent
> was always told to me to be a core concept. I don’t
> think we should be compromising those ideals at this
> critical juncture. Without that what do we really have
> to move forward with.
> -jg
> From: <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net>> on
> behalf of Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com
> <mailto:nnenna75 at gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com
> <mailto:nnenna75 at gmail.com>>
> Date: Tuesday 21 June 2016 at 17:20
> To: Lea Kaspar <lea at gp-digital.org
> <mailto:lea at gp-digital.org>>
> Cc: Matthew Shears <mshears at cdt.org
> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>, Best Bits
> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat
> Participants
> Thanks, Lea
>
> I think it is important that CS folks organisee CS
> remote participation. That is, if the IGF secretariat
> is okay with it.
>
> Just thinking loud
>
> Nnenna
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Lea Kaspar
> <lea at gp-digital.org <mailto:lea at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just got off the MAG call. Remote participation
> for the Retreat still not sorted out. From what I
> understood, we can expect live tweeting under
> Chatham house rules, but that could be it. Others
> on the call can corroborate -
> Best,
> Lea
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Matthew Shears
> <mshears at cdt.org <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>> wrote:
>
> Great point Ayden. I would hope that those
> who have been invited to participate will
> continue to be push hard for remote participation.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 6/20/2016 11:41 AM, Ayden Fabien Férdeline
> wrote:
>> Dear Lea,
>>
>> Thank you for sharing this. I note that Nitin
>> Desai will be participating in the Retreat
>> remotely. I wonder if this mean that remote
>> participation will be available to all to
>> observe the dialogue exchanged?
>> Best wishes,
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Lea Kaspar
>> <lea at gp-digital.org
>> <mailto:lea at gp-digital.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> In case of interest, the IGF Secretariat
>> has just published the full list of
>> participants to the July Retreat. See
>> Chengetai's email below.
>> Best,
>>
>> *Lea Kaspar*
>>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Chengetai Masango*
>> <cmasango at unog.ch <mailto:cmasango at unog.ch>>
>> Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:10 PM
>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat
>> Participants
>> To: MAG-public
>> <igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
>> <mailto:igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The list of IGF Retreat participants has
>> been published at:
>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/igf-retreat-participants-list
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Chengetai
>>
>>
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