[bestbits] Right to Information

Sat Jun 4 17:09:49 EDT 2016

Dear Deirdre and all

I understand your ask about the list of candidates competing.
I`d think this is an answer CSCG only can give you.

What I can update you on, which was the goal of my message, is that CS
MAG is involved in a selection process for a representative.
And yes, this selected candidate can not participate on CSCG
selections, because he/she would have been selected already.
However, as you so thoughtully re-sent the rules done by UNDESA, other
MAG members non-elected can participate.
Not sure if I would describe that as "another chance" but more like
adding to their list another challenge.

Best,

Renata

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Deirdre Williams
<williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Renata,
>
> The instructions on the IGF website are rather complex but quite clear.
> The representation will be 5 for each "stakeholder group" of which Civil
> Society (CS) is one.
> For CS
> The CS MAG members will select 1 from among their group of 14, acknowledging
> that some of the 14 may not be free to attend. That is a matter for the CS
> MAG to arrange.
> CSCG will select 2 representatives from civil society generally. (If it were
> up to me, which it isn't, I would not consider the CS MAG in this process
> since their opportunity came in the CS MAG selection)
> CSCG will also present 3-4 additional nominations for the two additional CS
> slots. These nominations may or may not be used in the final selection.
> Since the objective of the meeting is a long term view of the 10 year
> renewed mandate of the IGF and the 15 year period of the Sustainable
> Development Goals the existing MAG with its maximum 3 year tenure is of
> important but limited relevance. This is the reason for my comment on the
> CSCG selection.
>
> That was in response to your message.
>
> My point, which was not answered, is that civil society has a right to know
> who is in competition to represent it. This is in respect of the CSCG
> selection which I see as being separate from the MAG selection.
>
> On Monday we will be having a General Election in Saint Lucia. Admittedly we
> will all get to choose (vote). However the final result will be the group of
> people who will provide governance here for the next 5 years. My argument is
> that we have a right to know who all of them are, just as we have a right to
> know who is competing to represent us at the Retreat in New York.
>
> Best wishes
> Deirdre
>
> It is expected there will be 5 participants from each of the 4 IGF
> Stakeholder communities. ...
> To ensure continuity and integration with current IGF and MAG efforts,
> current MAG members from each of the Civil Society, Technical, and Private
> Sector communities will appoint 1 participant each.   Additionally, each
> community will have the option of designating 2 participants through their
> own processes.  The stakeholder communities are also requested to submit 3 -
> 4 additional nominations for the remaining 2 positions while noting that
> participants may also be drawn from self-nominations as well as nominations
> from other institutions/organizations.  This is to assure balanced
> participation and broad diversity across a number of considerations.
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/igf-retreat
>
> On 4 June 2016 at 14:49, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Deirdre and all
>>
>> The deadline for CSCG selection of nominees to IGF Retreat is upcoming.
>> This process, however, depended on other aspects:
>> 1) The candidates would have to send an email to CSCG nomcom
>> 2) The candidates were also requested to self-nominate or be nominated
>> in IGF website
>> 3) The CSCG asked CS MAG members to present the result of their
>> selection, so as not to indicate the same CS rep the CS MAG members
>> choose
>>
>> I was honored to have been one of the CSCG nominees who became part of
>> the MAG IGF 2016
>> I can not speak for the whole CS at MAG of course
>> But I can say that the majority of MAG CS is participating on a
>> selection process.
>> Given the solution of that aspect, I am sure CSCG will follow the best
>> path it can in terms of appointing nominees which do fulfill all the
>> other conditions.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Deirdre Williams
>> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Friends,
>> > Please excuse the deliberate cross-posting.
>> >
>> > The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is just finishing a
>> > selection,
>> > working to very tight deadlines, of representatives of civil society as
>> > a
>> > whole to attend a Retreat to be held in New York next month on the
>> > future of
>> > the Internet Governance Forum.
>> >
>> > When the Retreat was first proposed there was considerable debate about
>> > the
>> > involvement of civil society, and about whether CSCG should make the
>> > selection. Finally it was agreed that CSCG should go ahead. After that
>> > there
>> > was silence.
>> >
>> > Currently there is no public knowledge of whether anyone at all in fact
>> > presented themselves to CSCG for selection, nor, if anyone did, do we
>> > have
>> > any idea of who they might be.
>> >
>> > But those about to be represented, civil society as a whole, have a
>> > right to
>> > know the answers to these questions, and to know them BEFORE any
>> > selection
>> > is completed.
>> >
>> > This is a reminder to all of us, particularly in the context of the
>> > review
>> > of the CSCG, of the need to remember to "think communally" if we really
>> > want
>> > to change a hierarchical system, to be constantly aware of the
>> > obligation of
>> > information as a right, not as a favour, to all participants.
>> >
>> > Lack of engagement is a ubiquitous problem of governance. The
>> > "stakeholders"
>> > abdicate from participation in part at least because the "more equal"
>> > stakeholders turn to each other rather than to them. In this there could
>> > be
>> > one answer to Item 2 of the call for comment on the Retreat draft agenda
>> > which reads:
>> >
>> > 2)     What measures can be taken to engage those stakeholders who are
>> > currently unengaged, with a view to expand and diversify physical and
>> > virtual participation?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best wishes
>> >
>> > Deirdre
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > William
>> > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>> >
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