[bestbits] [discuss] from confusion to clarification
JFC Morfin
jefsey at jefsey.com
Sat Jan 31 06:34:41 EST 2015
At 16:04 29/01/2015, Eduardo Villanueva wrote:
>Hi Willi
>
>For what I understand of your argument, you believe that âinternet
>governanceâ is irrelevant because there is only need for a number
>(perhaps a limited number) of technical decisions to guarantee that
>the Internet continues to work as such. While I think thereâs a
>lot more there to discuss than just the technical issues of the
>interconnection of networks as they stand today, may I ask you how
>do you think the institutional arrangements necessary to reach the
>technical solutions should be? Just maintain the IETF? Or something different?
Dear Eduardo,
Digital networking is conceptually a singularity in human thinking,
before becoming one in technology (I understand a singularity here as
when human society extends by way of something that it must retain to
remain human).
It is embodied in the mathematical, physical, cosmological, and
biological scientific evolution of the last 125 years (since the
Raymond Poincaré non-resolution of the "n-body" problem, i.e. the end
of the Ptolemaic, Copernican, and Newtonian [a very long time] area
where we thought that :
* space and time were absolute and continuous,
* understanding could be logic (dialectic and linear),
* the principle of an excluded third was correct,
* and the cause always came before the effect.
Since then, we know better, in that things, thoughts, influences,
interests, etc. are not hierarchical but rather meshed and
non-simultaneous. In particular, we know that the universe is
multiple at least because everything is the center of its/his/her own
universe, and probably because the meshing is complex.
This is why there is no such thing as an "internet governance": there
are billions of individual governances, on individual men and
machines digitalities, that include (or not) the use of one of the
various main data network transport technologies (the number and
power is enlarging: internet(s), NDN, SDN, ethernet, etc.).
Open-Stand
---------------
Pragmatically, the heads of IEEE, IETF, IAB, ISOC, and W3C have
agreed that they have observed this paradigmatic change
(<http://open-stand.org/>http://open-stand.org or RFC 6852). This
results in a coopetitive innovation between global communities
fostered by their market economies.
In an attempt to keep things under control, there are at least four
complete/consistent doctrines that emerge:
- structured multilateral vision by governments. It is "ported" by
the ITU and the International Telecommunication Treaty.
- industrial leadership, pushed by the NTIA which disengages partly
from its internet exclusive involvement in order to be able to
politically invest in the new ones.
- commercial leadership, ported by ICANN which asks the WEF to read
the economic demand for them.
- Libre's cosmological (everyone is the center of his/her network)
vision as chosen by the WSIS (an information society that is to be
"people centered, à caractère humain, centrada en la persona").
An unproductive buzz is maintained by some claiming to be "the Civil Society".
The IETF/IAB acknowledgment
---------------------------------------
In a network, technological cohesion must come before innovation
(there's no use in having a better yet fragmented network). This put
the IAB at the core of the system stability, as the master of the
IANA. However, this time is over. IAB is consistent with the general
change and does not want to assume the responsibility anymore. This
disengagement:
- was implied in RFC 6852 (I appealed it for that reason: for ISOC to
clarify, but the NTIA's statement came before, after the IAB layer).
- this is documented in the WG/IANAPLAN IESG approved Draft (to be
published as an RFC)
<http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response/>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response/
- I am going to appeal it - not to oppose it, but to force ISOC to
give more exposure to their decision, in order to leave no doubt in
anyone's mind and avoid miscomprehension conflicts.
As a result, the IETF Chair has officially transferred the ultimate
IETF guidance and decision to the NTIA:
<http://www.ietf.org/blog/2015/01/taking-a-step-towards-iana-transition/>http://www.ietf.org/blog/2015/01/taking-a-step-towards-iana-transition/
Consequences
------------------
This is a great clarification: it transforms the IETF into an USIETF,
the same as ICANN was the AmerICANN.
However, it leaves us in front of a fragmented multitechnology
situation. This only means that we have accomplished the Internet
Project's (IEN 48 http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt) first
motivation and now we are switching to its second one, i.e. its
inter-technology phase. In this second phase, the network continuity
does not result mainly from the middle layers: the catenet (the
network of networks, the concatenation of all the local and virtual
networks) is completed and is pervasive. So, we can trust and rely on
the lower layers' stability, and differentiate our middle layers'
choices depending on our different needs and communities' best
interests: e.g. ICANN/Rosettanet, Google/Internet, Netflix/NDN,
Cloud/SDN, smart cities/meshed networks, etc.
The political and economic hysteresis is in favor of ITU, NTIA (ISOC
and ICANN probably apart), but the Libre is freed as a community and
can focus on an upper layer (intelligent use) of the lower layers of
the Catenet, whatever the middle layer (transport) being used.
This is why we have initiated the CCC Free/Libre project of a Catenet
Cooperative Company, for an intelligent use (IUse) of our
collectively built and shared network of our networks. The advantage
of the Cooperative concept (one man/corporate/institution = one vote)
is that our polycratic multitude (no societal agreement with a
specific sovereign power) can organize on structured a democratic
basis. This permits an "omnishareholder" intergovernance that may be
less conflict prone than the current forms of coopted/biased
"multistakeholderism" and/or fuzzy forums, lose coalitions or fluid
communities.
Required common technical work
------------------------------------------
This is to be technically ported by a standalone digital capacity for
everyone in our anthropobotic (men + bots) society. A "post-human"
capacity, even more than a "human right".
This calls for a catenetbox virtual machine/plug-ins and for a common
metadata registry system. Users will need to load an intelligent use
interface (IUI) plug-in, hosting the different communication network
technologies to be used, and coordinating with upper layers in names
(DNS CLASSes), numbers (everyone has already a digital network
address: his/her/its telephone number), parameters (for/by each
technology), and documentation areas.
Coopetitively developing/testing this Libre catenetbox, its various
functions, and its netix interapplication system is now to be one of
our priorities.
However, there are others, such as building a technically lasting
shareholder database (everyone has a "diginame"), a wiki 3.0, and an
IANA protocol to permit mutual documentation and information, etc.
This is networking. Then, we need to advance in the direction we are
really interested in: inter-comprehension facilitation. The Intersem,
i.e. the intersemiotic layers of datacommunications.
>This particular issue is at the center of many debates about
>Internet governance, but i gather you may think that there is a
>better, simpler solution that will resolve the issue without all the
>hoopla around the IGF, NMI, ISF and everything else.
They will remain as the wake of the new course we will have set.
Best.
jfc
>Thanks for your time.
>
>
>Eduardo Villanueva-Mansilla
>Associate Professor, Dept. Communications
>Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perú
><mailto:evillan at pucp.pe>evillan at pucp.pe
>www.eduardovillanueva.com
>
>
>
>>El 29/1/2015, a las 9:48, willi uebelherr
>><<mailto:willi.uebelherr at gmail.com>willi.uebelherr at gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>>Dear Nathalie.
>>
>>Am 28/01/2015 um 09:26 p.m. schrieb Nathalie Coupet:
>>>Could you explain what kind of decentralized architecture would be
>>>necessary to eliminate the retention of virtual address spaces?
>>
>>In general, addresses are geografical position. Then the transport
>>is very easy. If you destroy this principle, then you need
>>administration to create the necessary information about the
>>geografical location from you virtual address.
>>
>>For me, the "decentralized architecture" is the reality of
>>distributed local communities, where we live. The reality self is
>>the "architecture of decentralization".
>>
>>The "Internet Governance" is a useless and cheap theater. For that,
>>they need this virtualisation of addresses.
>>
>>>What process would need to be in place to assign address space
>>>according to the geographical position in the network?
>>
>>We have to create a open discussion about a useful world coordinate
>>system. Our WC84, what we mostly use, is not really optimal. The
>>distances between 2 degrees is on the pol 0 and on the equator max.
>>We use triangles.
>>
>>Also we have to discuss our transform algorithm from WC (world
>>coordinate) to 64 bit global IP-address and back. The local 64 bit
>>IP-address is independent of that. The people decide the address mechanism.
>>
>>And we have to discuss our decentralized DNS-System. The roots are
>>always the local networks. You can ask this roots and save for
>>later. Or forget and ask later the same. But because all people
>>need it, we organize it as a common task in the locality.
>>
>>>Thank you. Nathalie
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>Thank you, Willi
>>Sent from my mail client Thunderbird portable with PortableApps
>>
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