[bestbits] [discuss] Draft statement on making IGF permanent

Wed Sep 3 10:06:05 EDT 2014

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Dear all

This is an excellent initiative.

I have not read all the comments.. my apologies. Too busy here are the IGF.

These few comments are what struck me when I read the statement:

1) Summary of the IGF mandate from the Tunis Agenda. The summary omits
several really key point from the TA IGF mandate. I would suggest either
quoting the entire agenda, or making the summary more comprehensive, or
just referencing it. It is short so  my preference would be to quote the
full text.

2) Where we reference national and regional IGFs could we say that most
of these involved the active support and participation of UN member states?

3) Can we get to the point of the recommendation earlier in the text?
Background can follow later.

4) I am not sure we should give this option in this way:If this is
impossible given current UN rules and regulations, we would recommend a
stable ten year extension, to enable longer-range commitments and
financial planning.

I suggest we just leave it.

All for now and apologies for not being able to read and comment on
everyone's comments.

Anriette

On 03/09/2014 15:15, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Dear all
>
> This is an excellent initiative.
>
> I have not read all the comments.. my apologies. Too busy here are the
> IGF.
>
> These few comments are what struck me when I read the statement:
>
> 1) Summary of the IGF mandate from the Tunis Agenda. The summary omits
> several really key point from the TA IGF mandate. I would suggest
> either quoting the entire agenda, or making the summary more
> comprehensive, or just referencing it. It is short so  my preference
> would be to quote the full text.
>
>
> On 02/09/2014 17:03, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> Please find attached a new, greatly revised text of the draft
>> statement on making the IGF permanent.  We have sought advice on
>> various aspects of the document and made the required revisions. 
>> Please send your comments, as we hope to proceed with a letter and
>> formal approval process tomorrow.  The document is also loaded on the
>> pad at  https://etherpad.mozilla.org/LQO468JD1K
>> Kind regards,
>> Stephanie Perrin and Jeannette Hofmann.
>> On 2014-09-02, 2:34, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> (sorry, cross-posting still necessary since not everyone is on each
>>> of these lists)
>>>
>>> Thanks to those who commented, here is a quick update of comments
>>> received so far:
>>>
>>> 1. Substance: Ryn and otherers made the important point that
>>> projects in the UN environment are by definition temporary. If we
>>> ask the Generaly Assembly to make the IGF a permanent entity, such a
>>> request could imply a change of status that we did not mean to ask for.
>>>
>>> This does not necessarily mean we should drop the whole statement
>>> but that we have to be careful about its language and that we need
>>> to get advise from the diplomats @ IGF.
>>>
>>> 2. Title: People find it awkward. Others say it should address the
>>> UN General Assembly.
>>> Again others want a subtitle that would frame it as a statement from
>>> the IGF stakeholders (meaning: we practically produce outcomes even
>>> if we cannot formally agree whether or not we want the IGF to
>>> produce outcomes)
>>>
>>> 3. Text: too long, should be shortened but also incude other aspects
>>> such as those that Avri mentioned: funding, successes of the IGF
>>>
>>> 4. Language: should be softer to comply with UN style
>>>
>>> 5. End: too ubrupt, could be more passionate
>>>
>>> 6. Operational: Deadline for comments should be Wednesday night, IGF
>>> local time, so that we have enough time on Thursday to get support
>>> for it.
>>> Statement should be read in the closing session?
>>>
>>> I am grateful for all suggestions on how to proceed from here. We
>>> are inventing the drafting process while I am writing this.
>>>
>>> jeanette
>>>
>>> Am 02.09.14 07:00, schrieb Avri Doria:
>>>> (removed cross posting)
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the letter makes a good case and is a good start.
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to add a few elements, while working on keeping the
>>>> text
>>>> relatively brief
>>>>
>>>> I think the letter needs to include some information about the
>>>> development of a sustainable funding model and that this requires the
>>>> ability to do longer range planning.  I have added some text to
>>>> that end.
>>>>
>>>> I think it is also important to add a bit about the successes of the
>>>> IGF, perhaps including some of the information that is being collected
>>>> on the IGF's effect on the Internet ecosystem in its the first 9
>>>> years.
>>>>   As the IGF has been collecting this material, perhaps some
>>>> examples can
>>>> be lifted from that effort/report.  I am not aware of the progress
>>>> being
>>>> made on that report and whether it is available at this point.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Stephanie and Jeanette for the start that was made.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01-Sep-14 16:49, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
>>>>> This is a rasonable text. Probably it can be shorten a little bit.
>>>>> I support it.
>>>>>
>>>>> wolfgang
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Jeanette
>>>>> Hofmann
>>>>> Gesendet: Mo 01.09.2014 16:46
>>>>> An: discuss at 1net.org; Best Bits; governance at lists.igcaucus.org
>>>>> Betreff: [governance] Draft statement on making IGF permanent
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephanie Perrin and I have drafted a statement that asks the UN
>>>>> Secretary to consider renewing the mandate of the IGF on a
>>>>> permanent basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> About 90% of the text are quotes from UN documents referring to
>>>>> the IGF
>>>>> and from the NetMundial Statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our draft is intended to reflect the views of all stakeholders and
>>>>> perhaps get a broad endorsement at the end of the IGF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, it is just a draft. Changes are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have set up a pad for editing:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://etherpad.mozilla.org/LQO468JD1K
>>>>>
>>>>> For convenience we also paste the text into this email below.
>>>>>
>>>>> The goal is to complete the editing before the end of the IGF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephanie and Jeanette
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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