[bestbits] [governance] Internet - whether to regulate it or not

Wed Oct 1 08:42:59 EDT 2014

Dear Milton,

No one can answer your question because it is based on a false premise.

This premise is the US BUG. If you pose as a premise that you can "Be 
Unilaterally Global", and managed to make the world believe your way 
of using the technology is the single possible one, you certainly 
have an influence if your propositions looks acceptable (capable is 
another issue :-)). However, this influence is obtained by the rule 
of necessity. And as I said elsewhere necessity is mother of invention.

In our digital network area, the US industry has succeeded in making 
the world's people believe that its root centered networking was a 
necessity. It is now up to us, the people, the Libre engineers, the 
IUsers to make obvious to everyone that digitality, by its very 
essence, is not centered and they are free to chose the laws they 
voted rather than the laws lobbied by the US corporations.

I know, it will take time. And bigTrans National Corporations will 
resist. However, a few steps a head have already occured since IEN 48 
was frozen by the status-quo strategy. The architectural vision has 
been better defined; software programming has matured; new 
datacommunications technologies are emerging; RFC 6852 is uncomplete 
but has been signed; the world in Dubai has voted "no". Snowden was 
used to trigger Montevideo, Sao Paulo and Geneva. Next date is Sept 
30, 2015. One year to go. One year for the Libre MYCANN-plug-in to be 
explored, discussed, developped, tested and deployed. Tight schedule, 
for a few people ... http://mycann.org. You are welcome to join on 
http://0net.org.

One year to go .... until Oct. 1st, 2015. ICANN or not ICANN will 
then be the question.

jfc

At 22:50 30/09/2014, Milton L Mueller wrote:
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>Now, why, when the UN can adopt a Model law of e-commerce, can we 
>not discuss and possibly adopt a Model Law on IP based 
>telecommunication  and net neutrality. Can anyone answer this simple 
>and obvious question for me? Please, I am serious.
>
>No one can answer this question because it is based on a false 
>premise.  But you provided your own answer anyway:
>
> >Because US tell us so. And so many of us are happy to take our
> > cues from the US, and its political and corporate allies. (Has it
> > anything to do with from where the money flows?)
>
>It is based on a false premise because:
>
>Here in the US of A, we are talking about nothing else but a new law 
>and/or regulation on net neutrality, it got 5 million public 
>comments. And the same federal regulatory agency, known as the FCC, 
>has been running a proceeding on the telephony-to-IP transition 
>since January 
><https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-14-5A1.pdf>https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-14-5A1.pdf 
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>The dialogue you say doesnât exist is transnational. I was under 
>the impression that there were half a dozen workshops on net 
>neutrality at this yearâs IGF. I believe that the topic was 
>debated extensively, if inconclusively, at Netmundial. The European 
>Commission has also been discussing and acting on it.
>
>The word ânet neutralityâ is an American term and the current 
>Presidential administration is on record as supporting it. You 
>probably learned the words âIP transitionâ from America, too. So 
>explain to me again how the evil empire is preventing everyone from 
>talking about such laws or regulations?? I am serious, or at least 
>as serious as one can be when dealing with outlandish accusations.
>
>Is the basis of your political appeal now a shopworn 
>anti-Americanism, rather than a policy agenda that actually makes 
>things better?
>
>Keep in mind that âmodel lawsâ developed by the UN are 
>significant only insofar as they are adopted by national 
>governments. Which means, they have limited relevance when it comes 
>to global Internet governance issues.
>
>As a thought experiment, ask yourself which has had more influence 
>and importance to the future of the Internet: the UNCITRAL model e 
>commerce law? 
><http://www.uncitral.org/uncitral/en/uncitral_texts/electronic_commerce/1996Model.html>http://www.uncitral.org/uncitral/en/uncitral_texts/electronic_commerce/1996Model.html 
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>Or the Clinton administrationâs Framework for Global Electronic 
>Commerce, which provided the rationale for ICANN? 
><http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/Commerce/>http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/Commerce/ 
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>
>If the latter proved more influential, is it because the evil empire 
>stopped everyone from talking about the topic and used Jedi mind 
>tricks to force it down our throats? Or was it because a globalized 
>approach proved to be more practical and suitable to the growth of 
>the internet than a fragmented, nation-based approach?
>
>If the neoliberal telecom competition and deregulation policies won 
>out in the 1980s and 1990s, was it because of US power, or was it 
>because the policies were fantastically successful at stimulating 
>the growth and penetration of the Internet and information and 
>telecom services and equipment, more so than the 70 years of 
>national monopoly that preceded it, and thus were imitated by 
>country after country?
>
>These might be more âseriousâ and productive questions for 
>people on this list to answer
>
>Milton L Mueller
>Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
>Syracuse University School of Information Studies
><http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/>http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/
>Internet Governance Project
><http://internetgovernance.org/>http://internetgovernance.org
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