[bestbits] [] Re: NMI and the Brazilian CGI.br

[Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal]

Thanks Avri,

No confusion on my end, I guarantee you. Let's not be too naive and not forget that any non profit has many options to "use" excess income.

- allocate excess revenue to reserve
- grant high salaries and bonus (any excess on that when looking on WEF or ICANN?)
- support friends and allies through stipends, grants, fellowship, awards, board fees, grandiose events, meetings with full amenities...
- invest in for profit directly or indirectly
- invest in other friendly non profit.
etc, etc...

That leaves a lot of room for doing whatever a non profit wants to do with excess income. In someway, it is much more exciting that simply having to give it to shareholders, after tax payment (many still don't like the idea of tax, right?).
Transparency and accountability of WEF is not very relevant to citizen of the world, when we might consider it a bit differently when thinking of an entity such as the ICANN that makes its income, including its excess ones, from any one getting a domain name on this planet.

Then,
Think of PIR providing funds to ISOC, or ISOC covering cost for IETF. These financial links are of importance.
Think of ICANN not funding the IGF when it would be fully compliant with its general mission and statement, and when it should.

Let's hope someone at the WEF will read this exchange, and take your honorable idea of supporting (for no expected return) forms of IG building and enabling "tech" (?) the world over. (what did you mean here?)

So far, ICANN has not really given a good example of how to best support independent CS forum (with the diversity of its views) to try to better build simple transnational Internet Public Policies (even though ITU is de facto doing part of the job for years now at a very slow pace)

JC


Le 23 nov. 2014 à 12:20, Avri Doria a écrit :

> 
> On 23-Nov-14 13:17, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal wrote:
>> Californian non profit making profit and a Swiss non profit making even more profit.
> While both may have lots of excess income, neither takes profits.  It is important to keep these two straight;  the difference between a commercial and a non-commercial entity.
> 
> In ICANN, many of us are trying to get the excess income spending on things like remediation rounds that support developing economies and communities .
> 
> I don't know much about the WEF and its excess income, but if I did, I bet I would try to get them to spend it on projects to support various forms of IG capacity building and enabling tech the world over.
> 
> avri
> 
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