[bestbits] Civil society response to NETmundial 2014 outcome text open for endorsement

[Adam Peake]

Thanks Ian.  My concern is that the statement seemed to come from civil society, i.e. all in the room, and that is unfair.  We've had this problem before, and I know from experience it's easy to not be exact.  But still a shame to give the wrong impression.   

I am not questioning anyone's right to make a statement (or to walk out -- at least when walking out it's clear on whose behalf the feet are moving :-))

What version of the document leaked?  Could you share that with the list.

Thanks,

Adam


On May 1, 2014, at 4:44 AM, Ian Peter wrote:

> The Niels statement was drawn up quickly by a group of about 30 of us sitting in the CS quarters of the conference hall after the changed text was leaked showing the last minute changes after the text left the two drafting committees.
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> Some of us would have gone further. Some were considering a walk out. The text was probably indicative of a more balanced approach given the mood at the time.
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> With a bit of distance from the disappointment at those changes, perhaps many feel differently. But it was an honest attempt to capture the mood at the time and I am personally glad civil society said something rather than nothing.
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> But with a bit of distance from the event perhaps many of us have other thoughts.
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> Ian Peter
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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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>> I haven't endorsed it either for the same reason.
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> Would have been nice to know who Niels was speaking for -- gave the impression of civil society broadly.  Who asked for the opportunity to speak and who did they say they represented?
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> Adam
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>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 7:20 am, Andrew Puddephatt <Andrew at gp-digital.org> wrote:
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>>> I think this is much too negative and fails to reflect the amount of positive agenda and genuinely good things that came out of the whole process.  I can’t support this statement
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>>> From: Jeremy Malcolm <Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au>
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>>> Date: Friday, 25 April 2014 01:44
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>>> Subject: [bestbits] Civil society response to NETmundial 2014 outcome text open for endorsement
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>>> The following initial response to the NETmundial 2014 outcome text was agreed in the room at NETmundial by about 25 civil society representatives and was read out in the session by Niels ten Oever from Article 19.  If you are in agreement, please endorse and share:
>>> 
>>> http://bestbits.net/netmundial-response
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>>> This need not prevent the development of a more substantive civil society response later.
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