[bestbits] Fwd: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation

Tue Jan 7 00:55:04 EST 2014

Hi,

It seems to me that if you don't get satisfaction from this group, you 
can submit your slate to 1net directly and ask them to put you in the 
appropriate slots, be they academic, technical community, civil society 
or maybe even business*.  1net is the aggregation group for the Brazil 
activities, not this ad-hoc group that Ian pulled together, as venerable 
as the constituent organizations and selection committee are.

avri

* I have come to understand though my work with PIR on international 
NGOs last year that in some countries community initiatives are 
organized as businesses, so it may even be appropriate for some of your 
colleagues to go through a commercial organization as well as any of the 
others.  I made this same recommendation to the At-Large today as they 
were trying to figure out the same issue of where they fit into the WSIS 
4 way split of non-governmental entities.

On 06-Jan-14 22:06, michael gurstein wrote:
> Ian, I must object to your according to yourself and your grouping the
> mantle of “Civil Society”.
>
> Your group represents certain elements/organizations within Civil
> Society but there are many many other organizations and individuals who
> are not represented and perhaps don’t wish to be represented by your
> specific grouping.
>
> I would ask in further communications, which in principle are open to
> all, that this distinction be recognized and maintained.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> M
>
> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net
> [mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Ian Peter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 3:43 AM
> *To:* Carolina Rossini; bestbits at lists.bestbits.net;
> governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Fwd: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting
> preparation
>
> Thanks for posting that Carolina (have cross-posted to governance list
> as well)
>
> I am not sure it will be possible to complete CS nominations by January
> 10, but we will try and it is certainly possible. But I am wondering if
> anyone would object to our current Brazilian reps attending these
> meetings as our temporary reps if we have not completed by then? Then at
> least we will have coverage and involvement.
>
> I want to say a few words about the break up of the 12 for HLC as well
> as I have been trying to get further information on this.
>
> In an IGF MAG situation, the breakup would be a simple 4/4/4 – with
> technical and academic combined.  However 1net has for its own committee
> given a separate and equally weighted representation to technical and
> academic – so its co ordination group is 5/5/5/5.
>
> At this stage CS has been asked to prepare 4 names for HLC. That I think
> pre-supposes 4 business, 4 civil society, and 2 academic and 2
> technical. But I doubt whether technical would be happy with this. Thus
> the part of Adiel’s message that suggests the local group might have to
> consider further.
>
> So we may end up with 3/3/3/3. That I think would get broad approval.
> But it’s important to know, and for CS to decide the 3, not have 1net
> eliminate one name. Or in any way be the final arbiter of which civil
> society names are included and which are not. That is our business, not
> theirs.
>
> But I think what would be entirely unacceptable would be something like
> 4 business, 3 civil society, 3 technical, 2 academic. I mention  this
> because a few LOG members might be reading here. I am fairly sure that
> civil society would be very opposed to any situation where the weighting
> of the business community was greater than that of civil society.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> *From:*Carolina Rossini <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:*Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:55 AM
>
> *To:*mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
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> *Subject:*[bestbits] Fwd: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation
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> From: *Adiel Akplogan* <adiel at afrinic.net <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>>
> Date: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:03 PM
> Subject: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation
> To: "discuss at 1net.org <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>" <discuss at 1net.org
> <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been invited (for /1Net) to attend a status update meeting
> between the representatives of the Brazil meeting's LOG and ICANN last
> Friday. Here are some key points discussed during the meeting:
>
> - Hosting of the meeting: the government of Brazil is leading this
> aspect and is in bilateral discussion with few other countries so for
> the event to be hosted not only by Brazil but jointly with these
> countries. More update on this is normally expected this week or next.
>
> - Chairing of the meeting: It was discussed and agreed that the
> multistakeholder aspect of the meeting should be properly reflected in
> it chairmanship as well. So it wont be only ICANN and Brazil who will
> chair but at least two other people will be proposed to join as co-chair
> of the meeting.
>
> - Stakeholder groups: The issue of confusion in the the grouping of
> stakeholders has been discussed and it is expected that a clarification
> on this comes from the LOG. But the suggestion is to keep the break down
> as originally announced (4 groups: CS, Business, Technical and Academia)
> so not to induce further delay in the nominations.
>
> - Because time is against us, the LOG has expressed its hope to have all
> the committees launched on January 10th. Which will have a direct
> implication of not having all stakeholders' representatives appointed by
> then. It was suggested to go with what is ready by the 10th, and start
> some preliminaries discussions while the rest join by mid January.
>
> - The LOG has clearly expressed their preference to have /1net as their
> only interface for dealing with the rest of the community in general.
> Obviously to avoid having to deal directly with each and everyone
> separately.
>
> - A meeting is planned in Brazil on the 10th to kick-off the committees and
> begin addressing key organizing issues in order to provide some further
> specific information related to the whole planning. Arrangement is being
> made to have remote participation to that meeting for already appointed
> committee members who will not be able to travel to in Sao Paulo.
>
> That is all I have for now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - a.
>
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