[bestbits] FW: [] NETmundial Initiative Announces Formation of its Inaugural Coordination Council and a Broad Global Community Consultation Phase | NETmundial

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+1 Seun. 
I agree with Izumi. 
Appetite can improve while on the table. 
Lorin


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From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> 
Date: 28/12/2014  09:27  (GMT+01:00) 
To: parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> 
Cc: "<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC <governance at lists.igcaucus.org> 
Subject: Re: [bestbits] FW: [] NETmundial Initiative Announces Formation of its Inaugural Coordination Council and a Broad Global Community Consultation Phase | NETmundial 
 
For all it's worth I will agree with sentiments, however I think it should give more reason why Izumi's statement is relevant; aybe a change of attitude by those seemingly rigid govt can be achieved in this process.

Cheers!

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kindly excuse brevity and typos.

On 28 Dec 2014 05:19, "parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

To my understanding,  for most of those who now support the NMI, the case against UN institutions' involvement with IG was the presence of Chinas and Irans over there - how can we trust our Internet to such authoritarian governments?!  It is a bit strange to see a special happiness being expressed when the same actors now join the NMI. What is one missing here?

The fact is that China has such a iron grip over its Internet - politically and economic-ally, that it is no longer greatly interested in more and better (as in more democratic) global governance of the Internet. It can do with forums to make deals and adjustments, and that is about all. That is China's attraction for the NMI, and here is where its interests partially overlap with  those of the US, whose whole effort is to block any move whatsoever towards globally democratic governance of the Internet. What we therefore see is a move that is in the interest of all those who already have the most power in terms of the global Internet, they have a forum to negotiate their narrow interests.  And all those currently dis-empowered lose out and are worse off. (Apart from some crumbs throwing business.)

In welcoming a forum where the 'biggies' are given positions, and the 'ordinary' get ignored is obviously problematic in itself. Worse, it pushes countries towards a model of global governance where the way to go is seen to be to seek means of making exclusive deals and negotiating narrow interests, instead of a pursuance of the global public interest (ok, I can hear sniggers, which is precisely the problem), which is what a UN kind of global governance system is under-pinned by. It distorts the very political thinking and philosophy that needs to form the basis of our shared global living. Big loss, really. 

parminder 


On Saturday 27 December 2014 10:48 PM, Avri Doria wrote:

Good point.

avri


On 26-Dec-14 19:16, Izumi AIZU wrote:
I see at least two names from China as very interesting or significant: Minister Lu Wei and Jack Ma of Alibaba, both were central figures at the World Internet Conference held in Wuzhen, China last month. Their participation in this Multistakeholder venture is a good sign.

I also hope our Civil Society colleagues actively engage and advance our core values.

Of course, there are certain or uncertain elements that are troublesome, but I like to remain constructive, critical, but more positive.

And Happy holidays and New Year to all!!

Izumi
2014/12/25 3:21 "Lee W McKnight" <lmcknigh at syr.edu>:
FYI and happy holidays!


Lee
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