[bestbits] Surveillance paragraph of netmundial document

[Katitza Rodriguez]

Yes please fight hard, Jeanette and Anriette.

Thank you so much for your work.

On 04/17/2014 04:07 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Agree. And I would like to understand why it was removed.
> 
> I propose that everyone who submits input focuses on this. I have yet to
> work on the doc with colleagues in APC and will share insights as we go.
> 
> But this is particularly important as it covers ALL surveillance, not
> just mass surveillance. It addresses ALL governments and not just the US
> government. It is important for the long term.
> 
> Anriette
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/04/2014 09:41, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>> I think that particularly because necessary and proportionate has been
>> in the document before and refers to principles that have broad
>> political support, chances are good to get this language back in. It
>> is definitely worth fighting for!
>>
>> jeanette
>>
>> Am 17.04.14 03:59, schrieb parminder:
>>>
>>> On Thursday 17 April 2014 04:08 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> To me one of the weakest sections of the document is the paragraph
>>>> dealing with surveillance issues (para 35 of the Roadmap) which reads
>>>> “Internet surveillance – Mass and arbitrary surveillance undermines
>>>> trust in the Internet and trust in the Internet governance ecosystem.
>>>> Surveillance of communications, their interception, and the collection
>>>> of personal data, including mass surveillance, interception and
>>>> collection should be conducted in accordance with states’ obligations
>>>> under international human rights law. More dialogue is needed on this
>>>> topic at the international level using forums like IGF and the Human
>>>> Rights Council aiming to develop a common understanding on all the
>>>> related aspects”.
>>>> This fairly weak language and action line (more dialogue) is not
>>>> surprising given the governmental input (including US Government) into
>>>> the drafting. So far the only comment on this is from me, where I
>>>> suggest  reference to the necessaryandproportionate.org principles.
>>>
>>>
>>> You of course know that reference to 'necessary and proportionate' was
>>> there in the original draft and it got removed... What are the chances
>>> then it will be reinstated at your request?
>>>
>>> parminder
>>>
>>>> I think it would be useful if others commented as individuals. Perhaps
>>>> what we need is some better wording (which perhaps governments would
>>>> be embarrassed not to include), and which would strengthen the
>>>> response here. In any case, some wording and indication of level of
>>>> concern to ensure that this is discussed on the floor of the meeting
>>>> rather than simply passed by as an adequate wording would be useful!
>>>> Ian Peter
>>>> The site for entering responses is
>>>> http://document.netmundial.br/2-roadmap-for-the-future-evolution-of-the-internet-governance/
>>>>
>>>
> 
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> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org
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Katitza Rodriguez
International Rights Director
Electronic Frontier Foundation

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