[IRPCoalition] [bestbits] free flow of information @ Netmundial - Civil Society major issues
Mike Godwin (mgodwin@INTERNEWS.ORG)
mgodwin at INTERNEWS.ORG
Tue Apr 15 13:31:54 EDT 2014
Fwiw, I think free flow of information falls squarely under Article 19.
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:15 PM, "Matthias C. Kettemann" <matthias.kettemann at gmail.com<mailto:matthias.kettemann at gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm not sure I agree. I think the case can be made that "free flow of information" is an implied condition for everyone to seek, receive, impart information (Article 19 UDHR). This argument is strengthened by the the language of Art. 19 (2) ICCPR ..... freedom "to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". That sounds very much like being premised upon the free flow of information. A UN resolution doesn't instantly change the character of a right. The UDHR is by and large customary law, the ICCPR signed by practically all states. Further, the free flow of information is an essential precondition to exercisizing FoE online - the 2011 and 2012 Special Rapporteur reports by Frank La Rue are helpful in explaining this. So: custom and treaty (and some recent explaining by the Special Rapporteur): You won't get much stronger commitments in international law.
Kind regards
Matthias
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu<mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>> wrote:
Hi Anne,
I have argued for integrating Human Rights language into the draft document. "Free flow of information" is not part of any UN resolution and thus not the same as the right to freedom of opinion and expression. Free flow of information neither implies enforceable rights nor does is it imply any obligations of governments. Language is very important when it comes to human rights.
jeanette
Am 15.04.2014 16:33, schrieb Anne Jellema:
Jeanette, thanks - the example serves your purpose of illustrating the
complexity of positioning in the textual negotiations. On a side note,
though, I'm surprised to hear you say that you have opposed free flow of
information on grounds that it is not a human right. Article 19 of the
UDHR states that:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right
includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and */to seek,
receive and impart information and ideas through any media and
regardless of frontiers/*.
Best
Anne
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu<mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>
<mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu<mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>>> wrote:
Hi,
Am 15.04.2014 14:54, schrieb parminder:
Not only net neutrality has been removed,
'free flow of information' which figured twice in the earlier
(leaked) draft has been removed from both places..
in my capacity as a HLMC member I have spoken up against free flow
of information in the human rights section because free flow of
information is not a human right. Ironically, someone from the
business sector objected to removing this term from the human rights
section.
I am reporting this to illustrate that the negotiation of the text
hasn't always followed the distribution of power and interest that
some on this list may assume. The draft document represents
victories and defeats on all sides.
jeanette
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