[bestbits] Further letter proposed by joint civil society committee on composition and role of 1net

Anja Kovacs anja at internetdemocracy.in
Fri Nov 29 07:18:06 EST 2013


Thanks for the clarification, Carlos.

CS had already decided to engage with the Brazilian government directly,
and for that reason had appointed its four liaisons (including yourself!).
I think we were all most pleased when it was affirmed in the press release
you mention in your message that such direct engagement would indeed be
possible.

While it has thus already been confirmed that we will not like to use 1net
as a go-between to select civil society representation etc, I would like to
add to your message that nothing stops civil society from nevertheless
discussing with/on 1net the substantive issues that the conference will
address. In fact, I think it would be very valuable if we do so.

Best,
Anja




On 29 November 2013 17:29, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Anja and all,
>
> As you know, CGI.br is now officially the entity in BR in charge of
> organizing the April meeting. A specific BR organizing group (which will
> meet for the first time this coming week) has been chosen by consensus
> in the last meeting of CGI.br, composed of board members of all sectors
> -- I am part of it.
>
> In our (CGI.br) press release we strove to avoid any indication of
> exclusivity for the channels to address the organizing group --
> otherwise this would be obviously against the efforts to ensure
> pluriparticipation.
>
> This *does not* mean we are discrediting the 1Net platform or group --
> to the contrary. Anyone is obviously free to choose through which group,
> movement or platform they want to reach the BR organizing group. If CS
> chooses to ascertain its presence via 1Net, fine with us.
>
> A specific email has been created to reach the BR organizing group
> (which will automatically copy the incoming message to all of us):
>
> brmeeting at cgi.br
>
> My *personal* view at this point is that CS should concentrate on ways
> to participate in the first two committees (High-Level Multistakeholder
> Committee, and Executive Multistakeholder Committee), as the logistics
> committee will basically be handled by our team with long-time expertise
> in organizing international meetings in BR (ICANN meetings, the IGF
> 2007, W3C in BR etc, to name a few), and the meeting's GAC is, well, a
> GAC :)
>
> fraternal regards
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 11/29/2013 09:10 AM, Anja Kovacs wrote:
> > While this letter has some value, I think we make a big mistake by
> > mixing up issues about 1net as such (who makes decisions) with issues
> > about the Brazil meeting, as this letter seems to do. Which are you
> > aiming for exactly?
> >
> > If it is questions about 1net as such that this letter seeks to address,
> > I think these can be handled in a different, and more friendly way for
> > now. Why not simply raise them in individual capacity on the 1net
> > coordination list, rather than writing something as antagonistic as this
> > at this early point in time?
> >
> > And if it is issues about the Brazil meeting it seeks to address, why
> > not simply inform 1net about our recent letter of affirmation of the
> > liaisons, and possibly request for a clarification as to why earlier it
> > was claimed all representation should go through 1net?
> >
> > Beyond the latter, we don't really need anything from 1net on this
> > issue, as we have not considered that network as our main representative
> > or go-between for questions relating to the Brazil process in any case -
> > since Bali, we have agreed that that role will be played by our
> > liaisons. I feel this letter only confuses messaging on this issue.
> >
> > At least as it stands now, not a good idea at all to send this I feel,
> > and as long as the purpose of this letter isn't clear to me, I can't
> > edit it either.
> >
> > Best,
> > Anja
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 November 2013 10:29, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org
> > <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     In addition to the nomination of two additional civil society
> >     representatives to the High-Level Panel in London, the other members
> >     of the new joint civil society (steering|nominating|foo) committee
> >     have suggested another letter needs to go out today to curb the
> >     claims that the 1net dialogue has been making to having a special
> >     role in relation to the Brazil summit.
> >
> >     Whilst I am personally a little ambivalent about the need for this
> >     letter, I don't think that it would do harm to send it out (with a
> >     few proposed edits that I have already made).  If you would like to
> >     look and propose edits of your own, I'll try to get them
> >     incorporated before the letter goes out.  We can also add it to our
> >     own site for sign-on endorsements, like with the MAG and HLP letters.
> >
> >     http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/1net-reps
> >
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Dr. Anja Kovacs
The Internet Democracy Project

+91 9899028053 | @anjakovacs
www.internetdemocracy.in
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