[bestbits] civil society role in Brazil meeting

[Mawaki Chango]

I guess not everybody has seen the report message sent by Adiel on the 1net
list and maybe I should forward it here after this for your direct
consideration.

There are a number of committees being formed, and 1net has clearly
recognized the place of CS in those committee and the CS right to pursue
other avenues of engagement with Brazilian counterparts, including
government.

So nobody forces us to either be there or have our own channel. We can do
both, and I would urge this group to show a spirit of cooperative with 1net.

Rgds,

mc


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just to clarify further: I am not against the letter Parminder suggested,
> just think we could calibrate the language not to dismiss 1net as an option
> for participation.
> M
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Parminder,
>>
>> I am writing from ICANN meeting in BA where some folks from CS are also
>> arguing for transparency, openness and participation for civil society in
>> the Brazil process. In a similar way that we raised this in the IGF during
>> meetings with the Brazilian government in the iStart meeting and in other
>> spaces, we are doing it here with ICANN staff (Fadi, Thereza, Board
>> members), with governments, etc. My very quick thoughts based on the
>> present situation (things are changing very fast, so I reserve the right to
>> change opinion) is:
>>
>> - It is not either/or. Both things should be done together: populate and
>> participate 1net and continue to organize ourselves in our own spaces,
>> sending contributions as IGC, BB or individual organizations. It is not
>> clear yet how relevant 1net will be, but there is a possibility it will be
>> important, so we should not be out of it. We also need a channel to
>> exchange with other groups and this could be the channel
>>
>> - We need to make sure that a steering committee of 1 net is
>> representative and includes CS reps chosen by CS itself
>>
>> - 1 net does not exist so far and does not have a committee. What people
>> are doing is going straight to Fadi or to the Br gov. For communication
>> purposes, we have appointed liaisons and should reinforce that these people
>> are our liaisons for the moment until 1 net exists and until (and if) we
>> feel comfortable with it.
>>
>> - Our liaisons need to be included in all meetings
>>
>> Marília
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear All
>>>
>>> There are strong indications from all round that Brazil gov may just be
>>> taking the easy expedient to channelise non gov participation in the Brazil
>>> meeting through the 1net structure.... And we know that there was
>>> overwhelming feeling among civil society that this should not be allowed,
>>> and we should have a direct liason. (Civil society outside the active IG
>>> kind is even more strongly of this view). Are we know willing to come out
>>> of our paralysis?
>>>
>>> Lets write a short and succinct letter that we want direct and
>>> independent liason to the Brazil meeting and want to independently present
>>> our liasons directly accountable to us and not through the 1net or
>>> whatever...And just forward the four Brazilain names we have as our
>>> liasons... We do not have to change/ expand that liason structure. Havent
>>> the time for that. (and if some people insist, we can always do it a bit
>>> later). The following is a quick text suggestion...
>>>
>>>  We of the undersigned civil society networks and groups are pleased to
>>> note that Brazil has made a formal announcement of a ............. (put the
>>> official name of the meeting here) . We are happy to help the government of
>>> Brazil organise this meeting and take it to a successful conclusion.  We
>>> have chosen the below mentioned four persons to be our liason to the
>>> Brazilian government and also to be put on any steering committee that may
>>> be set up.
>>>
>>> ....
>>> ......
>>>
>>> ......
>>> ...... the names of our four Brazilian liasons
>>>
>>> Please include our above representatives in all meetings, formal
>>> presentations etc that will henceforth take place regarding the proposed
>>> multistakeholder meeting on the future of the Internet..... We will
>>> route our inputs to the organisation of this meeting through these reps...
>>>
>>> Signed
>>>
>>>
>>> (ends)
>>>
>>> parminder
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Marília Maciel*
>> Pesquisadora Gestora
>> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>
>> Researcher and Coordinator
>> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
>> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>>
>> DiploFoundation associate
>> www.diplomacy.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Marília Maciel*
> Pesquisadora Gestora
> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>
> Researcher and Coordinator
> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>
> DiploFoundation associate
> www.diplomacy.edu
>
>
>
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